Welcome to the first Track and Ball Podcast. This is audio from the launch live stream which you can see on You Tube.

So who is Ellen White? Ellen reveals her achievements, her injuries and the things she loves to do.

And who is Richard Whitehead? Richard talks about his athletics journey, getting concussed during lockdown and why this podcast means so much to him.

Ellen's played at 3 football World Cups, the London 2012 Olympics and has 92 caps.

Richard won gold at the London 2012 paralympics and made it a 200m golden double at Rio in 2016.

This launch gives a taste of what's to come in the series - with Rebecca Adlington, Ronnie O'Sullivan and Greg Rutherford the first guests.

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