Good intentions matter, but they don’t change much on their own.

Joanne Vazquez-Kirby, a global DEI & HR Leader at Skyscanner, joins me to explore what helps organisations move from aspiration to something more tangible. We get into accountability, leadership, and the gap between saying inclusion matters and building it into how a business actually operates.

There’s also a useful look at what this means in practice across global teams. From local context and data to community networks, executive sponsorship, and knowing where to start, Joanne shares what helps inclusion efforts gain traction instead of stalling out.

A helpful listen for leaders trying to turn values into decisions, not just statements.

Highlights:

(02:14) What working across cultures teaches you about people

(08:47) The difference between aspiration and embedded inclusion

(11:30) How networks, sponsors, and structure help the work move

(20:09) Why you can’t do everything, and where to start instead

(27:30) What changes when inclusion work has to translate globally

(34:30) What credible leadership looks like in a difficult climate

(41:00) The one shift leaders can make tomorrow

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