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Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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today I am speaking with Kristie
and Jeremy from Sav-an-Angel
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before we get started, if I could get
each of you to introduce yourselves and
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tell me what you do for Sav-an-Angel.
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Kristie, I'll let you go first.
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Hello, I'm Kristie Sullens.
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I am the co-founder of
Sav-an-Angel, and for.
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10 years or so or more.
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I did Sav-an-Angel full time and then
when I had my second child and moved
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from New Orleans Sav-an-Angel, merged
with another organization that was
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run by Jeremy Parks, who was also our
very first volunteer at Sav-an-Angel
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when he was 12 or 13, I think.
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13, 13.
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13 years old.
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Yeah.
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And then he went off to college
and did everything and then he came
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back and now he is our director.
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We merged our organizations and then
he took over as director and he's
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been in that position ever since.
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Go ahead Jeremy.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So my name is Jeremy Parks and
Kristie said, I'm the executive
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Director of Sav-an-Angel.
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We're a 5 0 1 C3 organization based out
of Bastrop, Texas now, and I've been
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with the organization since I was 13,
about 15 years ago, and I transitioned
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into a staff member on the leadership
team in 2018, and then I transitioned
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into the executive director role in 2019.
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That's pretty cool.
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And I love to hear that you started
when you were that young because I'm
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noticing that a new trend is that it's
very difficult to get young people
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involved with animal rescue now.
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It is.
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Absolutely.
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I know Sav-an-Angel has an
interesting origin story, so can you
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share that origin story, Kristie?
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Yes.
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So when Angel was five years old, we
found a lump in her abdomen when we
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were just petting her belly and we
noticed that she was acting funny.
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And so we took her to the doctor
and the doctor told us that she
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had lymphoma, and that when dogs
have lymphoma, that they can't.
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Cure them.
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They can only treat the symptoms that they
can't give them chemotherapy like a human
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because they take an oath to do no harm.
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And that the only options we had
were chemotherapy and radiation.
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And then, my husband was
Johnny, , the co-founder said
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we can cure humans of lymphoma.
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Why can't we cure dogs?
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And our vet . Dr.
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Garra went down the rabbit hole and
she ended up finding a vet in North
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Carolina, but they were doing bone
marrow transplants with machines that
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had been donated by the Mayo Clinic.
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And then we found out that a hundred
percent of transplants performed on
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humans were tested on dogs first.
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And so we were like, okay,
how much does it cost?
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We said it's $16,000.
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And back then that was.
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It's like just an unreal
amount of money for us.
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'cause we didn't have any money really.
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We were very young and so we
went out, we set out to raise the
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money, and along the way we met all
kinds of people in the community.
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And then we started to see the need
and we were just so grateful that
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everyone was helping us to save Angel
and we just wanted to give back.
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And then that kind of led into
rescue and everything else.
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But ultimately angel was, I
believe maybe like the 23rd dog
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to get a bone marrow transplant at
North Carolina State University.
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And she was cured of her lymphoma
and she lived to be very old lady.
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She was about 13 when she passed away.
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Old lady warm in her bed.
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Now Sav-an-Angels living on through
Jeremy and hopefully will live on past us.
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And that was ultimately the goal was
that I would just continue to serve the
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community that had given back to us.
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What is the group, Jeremy, that you
have, that you merged with sav-an-Angel.
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Yeah, so I co-founded Bastrop Animal
Rescue, which was a foster based animal
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rescue organization here in Texas.
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And the stars aligned at the
right time for both Kristie and I.
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And everything just fell into
place for us to really be able
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to consolidate the resources for
both entities to create and even.
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More impactful and powerful entity.
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And by consolidating all of that under
Sav-an-Angel and that the victory
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of Sav-an-Angel really sparked the
movement that introduced all of us to
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the wider animal welfare community.
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And that kind of became the foundation
of Sav-an-Angel and who we are.
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In our early years, we
operated as a rescue.
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We pulled animals from shelters,
we placed them into foster homes.
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Rehabilitated them medically
if they needed that.
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And we found them loving forever homes.
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But no matter how many lives we saved,
the kennels just filled up again at
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the local shelter the very next day.
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And so we realized that while rescue
was essential, it was still reactive.
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And to create real lasting
change, we had to shift upstream
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and address the root causes.
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And so today we operate as a
proactive, community centered
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nonprofit, really focused on prevention
and affordable access to care.
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Programs that we build hand in
hand with the people we serve.
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Our mission has evolved a lot over
the years and, we went from saving one
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dog angel to building a sustainable
solution that really keeps pets
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healthy and families together and
makes our entire community stronger.
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I would like to hear more about the
proactive measures that you're taking
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because I'm noticing the same thing.
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It just seems that people.
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Who don't necessarily need what we
would consider rescue, try to always
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get rescues to take their animals.
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And it always seems to
overload the system.
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Because people don't wanna say no.
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So what are some of these measures that
you are doing to combat that problem?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Really for us it's helping
pets, means helping people too.
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That's really at the core of our mission.
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And when we talk about solving animal
welfare at its root, we have to
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start with access to care and cost.
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And that's really the number one
issues that we see that families face.
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And the market sector of the veterinary
world is able to service, greater than
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about 50, maybe 60% of the community.
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But that other 40, maybe 50% of
people truly with the economy, the
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way that it is creates a struggle.
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And a lot of folks have to
choose between, providing food
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on the table for their children.
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Or getting access to care and
veterinary care for their pet.
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And for us, we really wanted to bridge
that gap and access to not just spay and
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neuter, which reduces pet overpopulation
and ends that cycle of breeding.
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But just the most basic of
vaccinations and dewormer.
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Heartworm testing and preventative
care and things like that.
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And what we see a lot of is very
basic health issues that could be
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addressed early on, like an ear
infection or a skin condition.
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They're left untreated and it becomes
a chronic, painful, expensive case
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that turns into an emergency sometimes.
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And at that point it becomes a life
or death decision for the pet parent
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because they don't have the means to.
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Treat the issue the chronic
condition that's developed.
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And so for us, we want to be a part
of that pet's life, its entire life.
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We want to be available as a resource for
its annual visits, it's vaccinations, it's
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dewormer, it's prevention every month.
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And we're able to help
families along the way.
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Currently we don't offer emergency care.
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But it is something that we're able
to connect with folks on a case by
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case basis and really give them the
resources that we might not necessarily
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have available but connecting them with
another entity or an organization that
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has those resources available to prevent
them from having to either euthanize the
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pet or surrender it to a local shelter.
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And what qualifications do you have
for people to use your program?
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So we actually, we don't qualify anyone
ultimately if a pet parent feels that
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they need that resource we're available
to anyone and everyone who might need us.
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And so we currently do about 4,000
spay neuter surgeries a year.
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And we do about 9,000 wellness
appointments a year out of our clinic.
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We have one clinic location here in
Bastrop, Texas, and then we run a mobile
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program which brings access to care and
free vaccines and veterinary care out
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into the communities who need it most.
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And so we really do try to target the
communities that we know whether it's
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the highest intake stray numbers through
data from the local animal shelter.
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Or it's just case by case that we just
are aware of situations in the community
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that might need us more than others.
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We try to target those individuals
and those communities the most
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to really empower them with the
tools and resources that they need.
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But at the end of the day if you
have a pet and you need, access
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to care, we're here for you.
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Can you walk us through how you
actually got this clinic up and running?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It was a monumental effort.
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And it was a very much a situation where
we had a partnership with the local
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animal shelter and they had a situation
where they had a building that was
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destroyed and a storm, and they were
able to leverage the insurance money
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that they received from that building to
create and build a brand new building.
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Part of that building was a medical
suite and they knew that they were only
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gonna be able to utilize that suite
one or two days a week for shelter
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animals, which left the building
unoccupied five other days of the week.
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And so we, with the shelter director
at the time who was very passionate
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about, really being progressive and
proactive in outreach asked us if we
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would be interested in partnering with
her to really create that solution.
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We had identified it but we
struggled to really implement.
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And so with those two forces
combined, we were able to just
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get this clinic off the ground.
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We piloted it in December of
2019 and we operated about once
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a month, and then in May of 2020.
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We open the clinic full time and
so today, we now offer operate four
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or five days every single week.
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That's quite an accomplishment.
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How did you go about finding veterinarians
who would work with you with this?
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So we started with volunteer veterinarians
just veterinarians that we had
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connected with in the local community.
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And they volunteered.
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Some of them we paid to come in
on like a contract or relief basis
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just to get the clinic started.
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And then by, once we had piloted
the program, we knew that it worked.
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We knew that it was gonna be successful.
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We opened a full-time veterinarian
position and we were able to
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hire a veterinarian that has
about 30 years of experience.
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And so she's done high volumes spay
and neuter for the last 10 years
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and we were able to get her on board
and she's now our full-time medical
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director and does the vast majority
of the surgeries that we offer.
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Can you walk us through all the
programs that you have today?
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Sure.
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Absolutely.
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So we are, the core of what we offer
is low cost and free veterinary care.
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Addition to that is our
mobile outreach team.
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So we go out into the community, we
provide pet parents with anything
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that they might need, whether that's
education, that's tools, that's resource.
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We have a pet food pantry
callers, leashes ID tags.
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Anything that on a case by case basis,
that one individual family may need to
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be able to better care for their pet.
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We're there and we're available as a
resource to, to get them what they need.
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And outreach and education
are really one of the.
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The core pillars of how we operate.
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For us early on doing rescue we found
ourselves telling people like, oh, you
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need to get your pet spayed and neutered.
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You need to get your
pets spayed a neutered.
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But then we realized that there was no
resource available to connect them with,
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to get their pet spayed and neutered.
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And so that's what really motivated
us to create our own model and our
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own clinic to be able to say, Hey.
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You need to get your pet spayed
and neutered and we can do it
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for you and we can help you.
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And costs should never be a factor.
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And so we operate with a low cost model.
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But really it, it is a
pay what you can model.
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And so we have a base rate of
what we charge in an ideal world
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to be able to sustain the clinic.
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But we know that a lot of pet parents
don't necessarily have the means
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to even afford the low cost fees.
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So we are able to work with them
on that individual basis and
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say, Hey, what can you afford?
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And if that's 30 bucks, we'll
work with them, we'll get them
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subsidized to a voucher program.
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And then we get their pet spayed anyway
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so if they feel that they couldn't afford
anything, then you would just go ahead and
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offer them the free care at that point.
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Yep, absolutely.
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So about 65 to 70% of
our costs to operate.
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Our clinic is covered by the
fees that we are able to collect.
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The other 30 to 35% is what we
subsidize through fundraising
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and donations and grants.
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And so we're very active in going
out and not just outreach to
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the community who needs us, but
reaching out to the community to.
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Garner larger amounts of support
to be able to never say no.
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That's always our goal is we don't
ever want to turn a pet parent
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away because we don't have the
means or the resources to do it.
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We'll go above and beyond every
single time to try and really
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gather the resources that we need
to be able to always say yes.
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That's amazing.
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With your spay and neuter clinic
why was that a crucial addition
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to the central Texas area?
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Spay and neuter.
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At the end of the day, we believe is
the solution to pet overpopulation.
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And so it really comes back to that
kind of preaching of we really and
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truly believe that is one of the most
powerful ways to end pet over population.
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And encouraging and.
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Really advocating for pet
parents to get their pets fixed.
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We needed to be able to connect
them with that resource to know that
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they were getting their pets fixed.
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And the only way that we found to be
able to do that in our community, we're
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about 45 miles east of Austin, Texas.
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They have a large, not on nonprofit
there that provides access in
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three low cost spay and neuter.
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And it's an amazing
organization in Austin.
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But what we found is there wasn't
enough resources available for the rural
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communities on the outskirts of town.
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And for us, it, it was just the need
and identifying the problem, creating
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the solution and we had a clinic.
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Do you also do the cats
with the TNR program?
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We do, we partner with a local
organization called Bastrop Cats.
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And we do several hundred surgeries
for them throughout the year.
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They work with a network of several
clinics and we're one of those clinics
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that provides them at a subsidized rate
to get pets to get cats community and
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free roaming cats to come in and get
them fixed in ear tip to vaccinated and
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return back to their trapped location.
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And has that had any kind of effect on
the pet overpopulation in that area?
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It has the organization that
we work with is Bastrop Cats.
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They've been around for many years now.
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And we were actually just looking
at some of that data the other day
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and we're able to see a noticeable
difference in stray animal intake
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from the areas that they have really
worked hard in t and r and every cat.
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Possibly trap and we're able to
see the first few years it was hard
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to see in kind of a tangible set
of data whether or not there was
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gonna be a significant difference.
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But now, five, six, seven years later,
we're really able to start to see those
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lines drop on the chart knowing that
what we're doing is making a difference.
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And it's reducing intakes
at the local shelter.
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Even though the community
that we are in is.
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Is rapidly growing.
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And as the community grows, the needs
grows and so we have to grow with it.
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How does the mobile clinic work?
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So we have a mobile veterinary trailer,
and we set it up in communities that
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we identify who need the most the
greatest need, the most assistance.
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And we set the trailer up.
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It's essentially a veterinary
exam room on wheels.
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It's climate control that has computers
and everything that we would need to
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be able to provide service and care.
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And we work with a veterinarian,
whether it's one of our staff
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veterinarians or a contract veterinarian.
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And we set up in a
parking lot and we just.
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Do a drive-through model.
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And our most recent clinic that we did
about a hundred free rabies vaccines
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in about three and a half hours.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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So your pet resource center focuses
on keeping pets with their families.
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What essential resources or
services does the center provide
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to prevent owner surrenders?
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Yeah.
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Food's the number one we probably
give out about two to three pallets of
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dog and cat food every single month.
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In addition to that, sometimes it's
for pets that live primarily outdoors.
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It's dog houses, it's
harnesses, it's dog sweaters.
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It's anything that a pet parent might
need that is preventing them from
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providing their pet with the level of
care that they think that they need.
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We're really there to try and help them
and connect them with those resources.
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The, for example, the other day a pet
parent came in and they thought that their
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pet was really struggling with the heat
outside, but their landlord did not allow
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them to bring the pet inside the home.
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And so she was looking to see if we
had a little baby pool or a puppy pool.
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And we had a little plastic pool
available and we just got a picture back
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today of the dog playing in the pool.
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And just little things like that
to where if a pet parent feels
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like there's something that
they're missing that could really.
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Provide that pet with the next level
of care to make them comfortable and
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happy and prevent them from the owner
having a concern that they might not
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be able to properly care for the pet.
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We're there're
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yeah, I love hearing little
stories like that too.
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Just that something like that can
make such a difference to an animal.
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Absolutely.
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Do you do any kind of adoptions as well?
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We do, we still operate a rescue program.
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We've significantly downsized that
program to be able to focus on
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outreach and education and really what
we've defined as being the solution
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towards what we're working towards.
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But inevitably along the way, pets
still cross our paths that need our
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assistance and so we will take them in.
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We have a small network of foster
homes and we're able to get those
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pets vetted through our own clinic
internally get them rehabilitated
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and then placed up for adoption.
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So we have a couple of dogs and a cat
or two in foster care right now that
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are looking for their forever homes.
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When you're doing your adoptions, do
you do that like mainly word of mouth
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or online, or do you actually have a
facility that you would take them to?
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So we're all foster based
for our rescue program.
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And so all of our marketing
usually takes place online.
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We utilize the standard pet finder
and adopt a pet and things like that.
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And that's where a lot of
our applicants come from.
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But we also do events locally.
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We'll set up at local
coffee shops or breweries.
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And we've met several of our
recent adoption pet parents through
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those types of events as well.
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Has the mission changed since
you've merged the Bastrop
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animal Rescue with Sav-an-Angel?
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Or is the overall mission the same?
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I think the core of always wanting to
be there , to support pets and really be
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just a resource for animals and empowering
pet parents has always been there.
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I think the shift in what we used
to do was majority was rescue and.
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Of the outreach and the
education and I think we've just
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completely flipped that script.
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And I would say 75 to 80% of what
we do now is really honing in
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on access to care and education
and outreach and less rescue.
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'cause at the end of the day, rescuing
one animal changes the life for
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that animal, which is incredible.
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And we love being a part of those stories.
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It's not going to solve the
bigger problem that we face.
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And so for us as an organization,
it was really sitting down and
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identifying what are the barriers?
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Why are pets ending up in the shelter?
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What causes the spike in intake?
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And once we identified those, then
it came to creating the solutions.
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And that's how we've
gotten where we are today.
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Just on that same note.
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Our mission will continue to evolve,
and so as we, work with pet parents and
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manage cases on a case by case basis
on an individual family or household
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level every single day, our staff and
our team is what can we do better?
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What can we do to address.
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A trending issue that we keep seeing.
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And so I think who we are
as an organization is always
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going to be centered on pets.
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I think more recently, we, over the
last four or five years have really
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honed in on the people aspect too.
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And like I said in the beginning,
helping pets means helping people too.
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Yeah.
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So is your motto pets,
people, and purpose?
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Yes, it's, so that was something
that we adopted at the very beginning
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of kind of the consolidating of the
resources with the two entities.
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And we sat down and identified the
barriers and what were the most
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common things that we kept seeing.
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And at the end of the day, it was a
pet parents were the ones struggling,
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and pet parents were the ones that
needed the resources, but they did
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not have them available to them.
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And for us it was really sitting down and
listening to them and gathering feedback.
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And actually, we've adopted what
we call a feedback to action loop.
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And so every day we work with our
clients and in the rooms, the exam
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rooms, we hear stories and we see things.
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And as we mentally take note of what
we're seeing or what we're hearing.
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We actually gather that data.
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We notate what client it was
that told us that feedback or
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what resource they might need.
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And then once we've strategized and we've
implemented a solution to what that common
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item is, we then reach back out to them.
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To give them the feedback
that says, Hey, thank you.
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This is the action that we're taking
and . If you still need that assistance,
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we wanna provide you with that assistance
first to pilot that program to see,
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what we can do to make it better.
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That's great.
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That's wonderful that you listen
to your clients so you know exactly
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what they need because there's so
many things that can go on that you
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don't know what their situation is.
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And when you find that out and if you find
a solution, then it's helping everybody.
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Now, I know a lot of rescues
right now are struggling because
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we are going through what they're
calling an animal welfare crisis.
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And then on top of that, we have this,
financial crisis going on as well.
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So is any of that affecting you?
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It certainly is.
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We've definitely seen on the fundraising
side of things, we donors that
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historically have given us, a larger
portion of money this year, they're not
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able to necessarily allocate that amount
of funds to us to be able to donate.
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And they still wanna support us.
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They still believe in what we do, but.
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And financially, they just don't
necessarily have the means to
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make the commitment that they
have made in previous years.
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And so we've had to really get creative
and go back to more of the grassroots
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style fundraising where, we're doing
planning yard sales and bake sales
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and fundraisers and things that we
had grown out of for a little while.
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But we're right back to it and kind.
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Feet on the ground, boots on the
ground, trying to identify ways
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that we can fill that gap and
continue to be able to say yes.
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And that really what motivates our staff
and our volunteers every single day is,
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what do we have to do to be able to say
yes and continue to help every single
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pet parent that walks through our door.
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So it's definitely been a struggle
financially just to be able to
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sustain, operations and continue
to empower every pet parent.
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And not to mention, rising
cost of everything as well.
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Through our clinic we are seeing that
a lot of the cost of medical supplies
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and even the cost of insurance and just
overall operating expenses and overhead
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it is climbing significantly this year.
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Now it seems too for that
very reason, a lot of people
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aren't able to keep their pets.
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So they are trying to
surrender their pets.
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So are you seeing an uptick in the
services too that you're offering
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. We have seen an influx in the
demand for our the programming
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and the resources that we offer.
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And for us, , we are in a community that
Bastrop County is immediately adjacent
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to Travis County, which is Austin.
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And we have Elon Musk here who has Quar.
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Twitter and which is now known as X
and the Boring Company and starlink.
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And so we've also seen a tremendous amount
of just growth overall for our community.
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And so for us it's hard to really
evaluate whether or not it's just
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the population growth and, or is
it, the, economic uncertainty.
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But there's definitely been a significant
increase in the need for pet food and
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access to care and, bridging, whatever gap
may come up along the way for pet parents.
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And more recently we've been seeing
a lot of folks reaching out asking
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about assistance for like pet deposits.
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And they're moving and they're trying
to find somewhere cheaper to live.
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But in the course of moving and the
cost of moving, they don't have the four
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or $500 to put down as a pet deposit.
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And historically, that's not
something that we have ever done.
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But it is something that has
recently been a trending need
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that we are, we're looking into.
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I was just gonna ask you that.
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So do you have more people coming up
looking for the medical care or more
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people looking actually for the food?
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That's actually a very
interesting question.
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There's kind of two sides to that
where they either come to us looking
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for food and they're not necessarily
aware that we offer medical care,
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and so we're able to connect.
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Them through that entire route
of programming that we offer.
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Or they're coming to us for medical care
and in the course of conversation in the
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exam room, we find out that they might
be struggling or they're unable to afford
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groceries for themselves this month.
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So then we loop them into the fact
that we do offer pet food assistance.
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Many of our clients are mutual
clients of both programs.
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Looking ahead, what is the next major
goal or initiative for Sav-an-Angel?
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And are there any new programs
or services in the works?
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Right now we're really just, honing in
on perfecting the model that we have
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created here in, in Bastrop County and
in the community that we're serving.
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And then vision down the road would
be ultimately to really be able
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to replicate this programming in
another community, another rural
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community that needs our assistance.
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Right now it's, economic
uncertainty and fundraising.
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We're really just focused on
sustainability for our current
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programmings and meeting the needs
of the community that we're in.
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But here within the next few years
it's on our map of things to look
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at is expanding and sharing the
knowledge and the resources that we've
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gathered throughout the course of
what we've done as an organization.
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And moving and introducing ourselves
into the next community that needs us.
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So I do have another question to ask you,
Jeremy, since you were so young when you
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started volunteering, what do you think
can be done to encourage more new, younger
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people to start volunteering as well?
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Yeah I get this question a lot for me,
it was definitely something that I've
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always been driven to, to solve problems.
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And I was passionate about animals.
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I've loved animals my entire life,
and just realizing the sheer need of
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help that was needed within the animal
welfare community is what motivated
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me along the way to just continue to
take on more and to do more and to
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step up and to take a bigger role.
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And , we've started doing some
programming here locally just to get
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feedback from the younger generations
to see what is it that would motivate
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them to really step up and into a role.
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And , a lot of the feedback
that we get is they're unable
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to identify what help is needed.
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They know that.
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Animals are suffering.
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They know that animals need help.
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They know that, there's an issue.
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They struggle to identify where
they fit into that puzzle.
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And so a lot of our messaging
for volunteering here locally,
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especially trying to target some
of the younger generation has
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been very specific marketing to,
we need you to help with this.
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This is what you can do.
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And just recently, we had in the
last week we've had 11 volunteer
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applications come in all of which
are within that younger generation.
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Helping them identify where they
fit into that puzzle seems to be
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very successful for us currently.
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That's interesting.
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I never thought about it like that.
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For our listeners who are inspired
by your work and what you do, what is
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the best way that they can help you?
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Donations.
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We always need support financially
to be able to do what we do.
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And we have a fund called the Spay it
Forward Fund, and that is for folks
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that financially are able to provide
the care that they need for their pets
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without having any form of subsidy.
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They're able to make a donation
that is specifically into a fund
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that our team is able to utilize
on a daily basis at the clinic.
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If a pet parent is unable
to afford a rabies vaccine.
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or they need a heartworm test
for their pet, but they don't
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have the means to do it today.
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00:27:40,545 --> 00:27:43,215
Our team with that fund has the
ability to say, Hey, we're gonna
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take care of that for you today.
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And so the spay it Forward
fund for us is truly essential.
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We could not operate without it.
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And the donations that come into that
fund to, to make our work possible.
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And then we always need volunteers.
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And volunteers don't have to be local.
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They can live anywhere
in the United States.
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They can help with social
media and online newsletters.
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There's all sorts of digital
volunteer opportunities that
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we can loop folks into as well.
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That's awesome.
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Before we end the call, do you have
any final message for our listeners?
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Absolutely.
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I think for us it's at the end of the
day, animal welfare is people welfare.
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And when families are
supported, pets are supported.
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When pets are healthy,
families are healthier.
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00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:25,593
It's not just about the
animals, it's about compassion.
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Equity community resilience and
the future of animal welfare for
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us is proactive, progressive.
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And I really encourage folks within
the animal welfare community to
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root what they are doing in the
understanding that pets and people
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thrive together and incorporate people
into the programming and what they do.
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Thank you so much for joining me.
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I really appreciated
speaking with you today.
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00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:49,645
Yeah, absolutely.
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Thank you for the opportunity.
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We love to talk about pets and people.
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00:28:53,785 --> 00:28:53,995
Yep.
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It's the best thing to talk about
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00:28:56,051 --> 00:28:58,971
Dixie: That's all the time that
we have for today's episode.
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Thank you for listening and
we hope you join us next week.
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If you know somebody that loves animals
as much as I do, please send 'em our way.
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00:29:05,781 --> 00:29:06,981
We would love to talk to 'em.
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00:29:07,411 --> 00:29:09,511
Please consider leaving us a donation.
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A hundred percent goes to our animals.
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Paws in
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the night Claws in the
fight Whiskers twitch and
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00:29:31,181 --> 00:29:31,951
tails
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take flight
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00:29:35,136 --> 00:29:41,486
They’re calling in Stories to spin
From the wild to the heart within
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Broken wings and hopeful springs
We’re the voices for these things
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00:29:48,521 --> 00:29:52,161
animal posse hear the call.
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00:29:53,821 --> 00:29:55,201
We stand together.
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Big and small Rescue tales We’ve
got it all Animal posse Saving
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them
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all
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The vet’s got tips The rescuer’s
grit The foster homes where love
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won’t quit From a pup in the rain to
a bird in pain , Every soul’s worth
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the
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strain
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Animal posse
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Hear the call
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We stand together Big
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and small Rescue tales We’ve got
it all Animal posse Saving them all
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Every caller tells a tale, every
howl a whispered wail, we rise up.
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We never
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fail.
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This
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is
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the
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bond
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The holy grail
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Animal posse Hear the call We stand
together Big and small Rescue tales We’ve
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got it all Animal posse Saving them all
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Every caller tells a tale Every howl
a whispered wail We rise up We never
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fail This is the bond The holy grail.
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Song by Suno.ai
