Laura and Xhafer discuss the etiquette of a dawn funeral. Laura makes it uncomfortable. Xhafer breaks out the thesaurus. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 4, Episode 4: Escape Velocity.

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Hello and welcome to, who Are You?

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This is reasonably well done

Sci-fi Watch casters by two

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former Strangers Now Friends.

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currently watching 2000

fours Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm Shafer.

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Laura: And I'm Laura, you did it

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Xhafer: we did it.

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I don't know how much of this tough before

that take is making it into the episode.

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Laura: probably Ben.

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Xhafer: probably none.

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Maybe it'll be in the after credits.

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Uh, But I did it,

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Laura: Congratulations.

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Xhafer: like one of those Facebook videos

that loops where the end is the beginning

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: It's this episode

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Laura: I wondered if the energy you came

at it with the first take was because

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you've recently watched the episodes, so

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Xhafer: today.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So listener just to like set the scene.

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I watched this one like a couple

weeks ago 'cause I'm, I'm like

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trying to keep us ahead and stuff.

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Jais had a very busy week and a half and.

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I needed to come back to it.

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Like, I was like, man, I don't really, you

know, just so much has happened to me too.

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'cause I've had a lot of school stuff.

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I was like, I don't really

remember what's going on.

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I wanna make sure that I can

like, visualize some of the things

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that we talk about, even though I

wrote notes the first time, right?

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So about an an hour, maybe two hours

ago, I'm sitting on the couch and

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Evie's watching cartoons, and I pull

the episode up on my phone and about,

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I don't know, I, I'll call it in the

discussion, but somewhere around halfway

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through I was like, okay, I'm good.

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I remember, I remember

what's going on here.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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This, this episode moves at

the pace of a drunk turtle.

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Laura: maybe this is the, the key

that Laura needs to watch the episode,

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write notes, and then come back to

it a time later and watch the episode

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again to have like an actual rating.

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'cause every time you ask me what,

I rate the episode and I'm like,

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ah, I haven't thought about it.

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I've got a rating.

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Xhafer: I've got a rating on this one.

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I've got a rating.

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I've got one good bit.

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And that's just where we're at with

Battlestar Galactica, season four,

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episode four, escape Velocity aptly

named because I wish I could achieve

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escape velocity of this episode.

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Laura: Just get out of this one.

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Yeah,

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Xhafer: Like

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Laura: just,

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Xhafer: warning is, this

was not a good episode.

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Laura: yeah.

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Yeah.

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And there's some weird stuff in it too.

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How about that?

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It's just kinda weird and bad.

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Xhafer: it's, I mean, I wouldn't say it's,

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Laura: It's not bad,

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Xhafer: bad.

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Laura: but it's not good.

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Xhafer: definitely not good.

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It's very middling and that's

the worst kind of TV to watch.

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Bad tv.

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You make some jokes,

you do your viper thing.

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It's fun.

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Good tv.

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You're sitting there, you're thinking

you're engaging, middling tv.

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You're just

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Laura: Check in your watch.

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Xhafer: along the, along for the ride.

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Laura: I You tell you what?

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I'm not along for the

ride for is Guy Us Christ.

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I don't like this at all.

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That's the first thing I wrote

about the LTO for this episode.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Guy is Christ, so I don't remember

what he was doing exactly.

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That was Christy.

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But there's something.

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Xhafer: you watched this one weeks ago?

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watched this one today, but the last time

I watched an episode was 15 days ago.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: it's been a little

bit of a break, so I really

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appreciated that last time on that.

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We got to uh, remind me where

the fuck we are in this season.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Set the stage with all

the stuff that's going on.

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I'm starting to get worried that

perhaps we are dragging some things

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out a little a la Deanna in the

final five, and I don't like that.

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Xhafer: But Laura one will be revealed.

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Laura: Yeah, I'm, I'm sitting

here wondering too, if we wanted

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to talk about that for a second.

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Like, so this season gets split in

half 'cause of the rider strike.

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Xhafer: Well, I mean, it was

getting split in half anyways.

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The previous season I think

got split in half too,

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Laura: Oh, okay.

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Xhafer: split in like way

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Laura: Big half.

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Xhafer: Like the previous season

got split in half, like, oh,

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we'll give it like six months.

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This season was a year

and a half, I think in

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Laura: Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So I was like,

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Xhafer: up the list calendar?

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Laura: one's gonna be revealed.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: is that gonna happen

before or after the half?

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And you don't ha have to tell me.

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Xhafer: not going to

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Laura: Okay.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: I

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Laura: But I, I'm, I'm like pros

and cons in it, in my head trying

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to figure out which one it is, but

I feel like it's more likely after.

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Right.

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Like, that feels more likely.

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but yeah, some things

drag it out too long.

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Xhafer: it's either in like

two episodes or 10 episodes.

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: And I'll say that every episode.

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Laura: And one of them, you'll be right.

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Xhafer: Eventually I will.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Hypothetically too.

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Laura: Could be.

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Xhafer: all right.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So the, the LTOs about this

episode that I wrote down.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Christ, Saul and Ellen

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: and Cali.

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Those are the things that it's,

it will behoove us to remember

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throughout this episode.

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Xhafer: Uh, We open on Kelly's funeral,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Not a military funeral.

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This is a religious service.

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Laura: Correct.

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Xhafer: Terrell's in a nice suit.

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Rosalyn a point of giving bill

instructions, like, Hey, this is nice.

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And he's all like, I hate this shit.

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And she's all like, bitch.

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Take notes.

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Laura: She's like, no,

this is what I want.

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And he's like, oh, right.

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Xhafer: Okay?

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Laura: The second the scene

started and I saw Rosalyn, I wrote

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down, is Rosalyn wearing a wig?

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Xhafer: Yes,

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Laura: Yes.

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Xhafer: as confirmed in this episode,

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Laura: Laura.

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Got it.

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Nailed it.

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Xhafer: wig.

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Laura: Yeah.

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The hair's way too dark.

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Xhafer: who did a PowerPoint

presentation truck at my place

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about how to identify wigs once

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: changed my life.

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Laura: Well, I think this wig is too dark.

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I mean,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: I don't know if it's

objectively too dark for Mary

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McDonald, like, I don't know.

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I, I'm not that kind of a stylist, but

we've gotten used to her in a certain

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way, and this wig was made to be obvious

and too dark like that people would

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be like, oh, now she's wearing a wig.

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Because hair loss, I assume.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Laura: don't remember if that

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Xhafer: out some hair

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: like an episode or two ago.

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: they note that the

ceremony has to take place at dawn.

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Like they're all pretty sleepy.

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Laura: yeah, what's done

on a spaceship, but anyway,

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Xhafer: I, well, that's actually a thing

I wanted to talk about for a moment.

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Laura: cool.

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Xhafer: 'Cause there's

three possibilities.

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Really, one, they can just

have never changed their time

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from Caprica, which is the most

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Laura: Probably likely, right?

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Xhafer: um, especially

for day-to-day stuff.

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I assume that they're

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: on Caprica time

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Laura: Yeah.

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Like the military has to

have its own time, right?

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: regardless of time zone and

stuff, I assume they use like where their

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HQ is and I believe that was Caprica

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: why Baltar was

there and stuff, and

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Laura: Sure.

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Xhafer: and all that shit.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: so assumptions, but Caprica time,

caprica city time, probably military time.

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It'd also be very convenient

for time lining up when we had

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all that shit in season one.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: but then also they

could be hypothetically using

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a local star clock for dawn.

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Laura: Okay.

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Sure.

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Xhafer: up place on a local planet

and when it's dawn there, it's dawn.

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Laura: Yeah, but you'd be doing that a

lot if you're jumping around all the time.

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Xhafer: Well, I don't think

you do this every day, but

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: maybe.

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Laura: Oh, then you're like,

okay, this is done for this.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: And

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: there's the other

one which they talk about in

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Babylon five for a hot second,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: like a very time-based thing and

someone misses it, but they don't because

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it's when the light that would've been at

that moment reaches Babylon Five, five,

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Laura: Hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Kar, they could be doing that

too, which is when the light from a dawn

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on wherever she's from the Battlestar,

it'd be one that would be hypothetically

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hundreds of years before she was born.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: how exactly far they've traveled

and they don't really make a point of

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telling us for a number of reasons.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: 'cause in star charts and shit,

it, it's a lot of math for no plot gain.

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Laura: Yes, exactly.

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There's some people you would lose real

fast and not enough people you would keep.

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Xhafer: Yeah, exactly.

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So I don't, I don't begrudge a show

for not giving us these things.

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but it, they could have done

something along those lines too,

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where it's all like, oh, well, the

dawn from the town that she was

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born in would reach the battle star.

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It would've been at this time, that

light will hit us at this time.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: some godawful hour.

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Laura: Yeah, yeah.

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Whatever it is, it's not great

'cause Tory's like WTF mate,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Dawn funeral, not a thing

I would really wanna do.

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I'm glad.

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All the funerals I usually attend are

like mid to midmorning to early afternoon.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: like an interesting choice,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: like the whole thing with

the funeral is the end and the

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dawn is the beginning of the day.

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so like

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: kind of like see where

you're, oh, you're trying to do

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Laura: there's like some poetry.

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Yeah,

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Xhafer: Rhymes, I guess, um, like

what they're going for, but also

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it just sounds fucking exhausting.

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Like you're, you're already grieving.

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Don't make me set a fucking alarm.

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Laura: exactly.

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Those things together are extra hard.

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Each is hard individually.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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If, if the goal is to make me not as

sad because I'm bitching about having

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to get up early, mission accomplished.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: that's the only practical reason

I could see for that kind of a thing.

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Laura: Yeah.

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As part of this service, the priestess

sends Callie's spirit into the universe,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: I thought was like, I don't know.

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I guess it's nice except

that she went out an airlock.

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Xhafer: Little on the nose there, right?

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: Kinda rude.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I was like, oh boy.

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And like so they don't go get it,

get the body right when that happens?

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Or do they, I don't know.

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Xhafer: I don't know that there

would be one at this type of ceremony

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because it's our first time seeing one.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: like we had another one of these

where it was like casket or something.

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But I

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: at that photo they

showed it for at the end.

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I gotta imagine even if they did, it's

closed casket and then you're just

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launching it back out in space again.

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And it's

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Laura: It seems

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Xhafer: really hard to find

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Especially 'cause like, I mean,

Galactica would know, like

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when the airlock blew Right.

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They'd be like, oh, something's up.

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But like, there's a lot of

physics of where things can like

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: and how fast and, I don't know.

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Xhafer: there's lots of stuff.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: so

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Laura: And G is gone.

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He's, he's the only

one who does that shit.

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So

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Gada

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Laura: he's somewhere else.

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Right.

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Xhafer: that.

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We don't even get to see him this episode.

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I,

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Laura: So sad.

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So sad.

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Tyrell like

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grabs Tori and Saul at the same time on

their way out, which is a bit suspicious.

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Xhafer: I mean, Ty, sure.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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That's like a commanding officer.

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I could see why you might grab

Ty, but why are you grabbing Tory?

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Xhafer: That's weird.

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Laura: That's weird.

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Xhafer: think like Kelly presumably

wasn't the only one who thought

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he was having an affair with Tori.

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Like people have seen them at

the bar drinking and stuff.

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Laura: And they saw the whole scene

where like he was sitting with

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Tori and then she's like screaming.

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So like, that's suspicious.

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Xhafer: Hmm.

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Laura: hmm.

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Yeah, but he's like looking at them for

way too long and Lee Lee is right behind.

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I really actually loved, okay.

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I can't remember Terrell's actor's

name, so you gotta give it to me.

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Xhafer: Actor's name,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Ty, which is Michael Hogan.

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Um, Tyrell is Aaron.

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God fuck.

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Um, oh, Aaron Douglas.

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Laura: Okay.

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The way that Aaron Douglas takes this

moment and melts his crazy eyes stare at

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Ty and Tori into grief stare as Lee is

trying to give him the condolences and

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the, the well, well wishes, and I'm sorry.

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It goes from, from just one subtly to

the other in just such a way that I

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was like, wow, that's, that's really

very good acting, really beautiful.

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And that's how you know, you can

believe that, that Lee doesn't

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notice anything out of this man.

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So, yeah.

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Xhafer: Ty visiting six.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ty's visiting Caprica

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Xhafer: He goes and tells her that she

can't see her, which apparently he does

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every day, and she asks again every day.

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Laura: I guess she must

be asking again, right?

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Because they don't actually say that.

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And I was like, is he just going

and denying a request every

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day just for the hell of it?

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Like, she asked once, but

then he's like, no bitch.

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Every single day.

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Xhafer: Request denied.

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Laura: who is taking care of,

he, we don't, we don't even

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know who's denying this request.

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It's just him, I guess.

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Xhafer: but yes.

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Laura: Nikki's watching hair.

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Xhafer: Yeah, Harris is

watching Nikki there.

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There's a lot, not a lot of

child watching on this show.

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Laura: Yeah.

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But as he's speaking to

her, guess who's back?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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He sees Ellen's like visage

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: on CAPA's body.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Weird.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: we get a little bit here.

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We get it a lot more later.

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Um, we do get confirmation that

everyone thinks Cali killed herself

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uh,

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Laura: Yes.

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Xhafer: Tori talks about, um,

B Tars Na Calvinist views.

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Laura: Well, but I am, I'm not sure based

on things that happen later, if this is

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all baltar's views or she's just like,

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Xhafer: I,

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Laura: I's hearing what

she wants to hear, right?

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Xhafer: hearing what she wants to hear.

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Laura: Yes.

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Yes.

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'cause she's got a whole thing of

like, we don't need to feel guilt.

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: Tyrell, we're perfect.

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Xhafer: she talks about this

a lot right after the theme,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: and I'm gonna be real with y'all.

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Um, I have a personal acquaintance

who is a, like, everything

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is predestined Calvinist type

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: and fuck, is it just an

excuse for him to be shitty sometimes

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: real frustrating.

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And if you are a predestination list or a

Calvinist of some variety, listener, know

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that my frustration is not with any of you

except for this one person in particular.

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Laura: That one guy.

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Xhafer: The one guy I know who

really is just all like, well,

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I was meant to be an asshole.

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And it's just like, oh God

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Um,

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Laura: I mean, that's a place you can

go with it for sure, because I don't

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think that is a, just him problem.

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Xhafer: I'm sure there are other

people like that in that mindset.

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And actually I have to wonder if

mindset that he has actually comes

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Laura: I

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Xhafer: Tori and this arc in

Battlestar Galactica because

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the timing is rather convenient.

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Laura: mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: that he's a fan, so

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Laura: he, he learned the

wrong lesson, you're saying?

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Xhafer: I would not be the first time.

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Laura: Yeah.

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That's humans for you.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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But

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uh,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Talk.

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Xhafer: it's rough.

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Laura: Tori says, we can

just turn the guilt off.

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Tyrell.

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You don't need to be feeling

guilt that she killed herself.

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'cause you can just turn that off.

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Like, I've turned off the guilt of

actually being the one to kill her.

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Xhafer: Whoops,

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Laura: Well, she didn't say that,

but this is one of those episodes

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where I'm kind of not frustrated, but

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Xhafer: for sure.

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Laura: it's, it's rough the whole time.

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'cause you're like, we know the truth man,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: don't, and that sucks.

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I hate that.

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And if that persists for too

long, I will get annoyed with it.

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Um,

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Xhafer: fair.

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Laura: but

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Xhafer: I,

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Laura: yeah.

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Tyrell is not interested in that and

says, Hey Saul, remember right you said

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that we are gonna be the, the men that we

were gonna be until the day that we die.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And Ty Ty is still

like super into that.

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In theory, it seems like.

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I am worried about it though

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because he, he's talking about his

grief with Ellen and you're gonna

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remember it forever, every single

day, and you're gonna see your face

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and it seems like it might be getting

to you a bit actually, even though

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you said you were fine and you were

trying to make us believe you were fine

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Xhafer: Bullshit.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: All right.

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Survivor count 39,675 down exactly one.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: They do love

their, their one drops.

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Tori pops in and tests gaia's pain kink

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Laura: Oh, she's so weird.

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She's getting weird.

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Xhafer: she's getting fucking

weird while also testing the

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boundaries of basic fucking logic.

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This is where a lot of that ous

stuff that was upsetting me that

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we just talked about comes from.

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But anyways

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Laura: But Gaia objects to it a little bit

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Xhafer: he does.

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Laura: because she's like,

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Give Guy is a piece of credit.

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Laura: I'm giving Gaia a tiny piece of

credit and I'm about to take it back away.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: but yes he's like, well, no,

we are, we are not one with God.

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Or because she, she basically like

leads him down this little rabbit hole

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of like, and then we're one with God,

and he's like, well, but that would

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mean we're perfect and we're not.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And she's like, wait, what?

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But tear gas, we've gotta do a tear gas.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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One of the gangs from the Warrior

shows up to Ruin Geiss Orgy Hall.

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And you know what?

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I think we can do better with a name.

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I want something with

some more alliteration, so

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Laura: Oh, no.

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Xhafer: a

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Laura: no.

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Xhafer: suggestions.

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Laura: All right.

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Xhafer: free to jump in

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Laura: Do I, do I have to do this?

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Xhafer: Um, yes.

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Laura: Damn.

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Xhafer: you to it.

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Laura: All right, fine.

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Xhafer: you could, you could log off.

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That's fine.

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Um, you,

527

You could mute me and I'd never

know if you nod convincingly enough

528

and or uh, get upset occasionally

when I stop for a punchline,

529

Laura: Mm.

530

Xhafer: never, I'd never be able to tell.

531

Laura: Okay.

532

All right.

533

Xhafer: all right, so

we have my first stop.

534

I'm, I'm really leaning

into the alliteration here.

535

The President's pleasure palace is

536

Laura: Ugh.

537

Xhafer: one I wrote, and that's too real.

538

Laura: Yeah,

539

Xhafer: that.

540

Laura: don't, don't like that one.

541

It ain't that.

542

Mm-hmm.

543

Xhafer: so then number

two Baltar's Bang Bus.

544

Laura: That kind of, that

kind of has some pops to it.

545

'cause Bang bus is like a,

it's just two syllables.

546

Very funny.

547

Mm-hmm.

548

Mm-hmm.

549

Xhafer: it rolls.

550

Balter doesn't have a lot of nicknames,

so I had to kinda reach for some of

551

Laura: Okay.

552

Xhafer: The traitors, taint town,

553

Laura: Hmm.

554

Okay.

555

Xhafer: Guy's gratification group.

556

Laura: That sounds, that, that

almost sounds like that's the,

557

the serious cult name, right?

558

So like, you know, like they, there's the,

the public facing persona of the cult.

559

Like that's, that's what

they're gonna go with, right?

560

Yeah.

561

Xhafer: The collaborators

contentment crew.

562

Laura: Mm hmm.

563

Yeah.

564

Xhafer: Nah, that one's,

that's kind of wordy.

565

how about Baltar's Bliss birth?

566

Laura: No.

567

Nope, nope.

568

I don't like birth.

569

Xhafer: Birth.

570

Birth is the problem.

571

I, I'd expect bliss to be the problem.

572

Laura: Yeah.

573

This together.

574

You know what?

575

Together, it's bad.

576

Mm-hmm.

577

Yeah.

578

Xhafer: The president's primrose path,

579

Laura: No,

580

Xhafer: no.

581

Laura: no.

582

I don't like acknowledging

that he was president.

583

Xhafer: That's fair.

584

guy's, glee gutter.

585

Laura: Mm hmm.

586

You're onto something with Gutter.

587

I really like that one.

588

Xhafer: gutter?

589

Laura: Mm-hmm.

590

Xhafer: Um, I, I have one.

591

I have one final one that I

saved for last, 'cause I think

592

you're gonna like it the most.

593

Laura: Oh, okay.

594

Okay.

595

Xhafer: The dumb asses.

596

Diversion.

597

Domicile.

598

Laura: I I do like anything that

refers to him as a dumb ass.

599

That's true.

600

Yeah.

601

I just from an objective,

like what's the quips?

602

I think Baltar's Bang Bus is pretty funny.

603

Xhafer: That's what we're

rode with then going forward.

604

Laura: The Bang bus.

605

Okay.

606

I'm gonna tell you what.

607

Xhafer: one bit.

608

Laura: It was good.

609

I liked it.

610

That was a fun little trip we went on.

611

Let me tell you what, what,

612

Xhafer: many hours I've

spent looking at a thesaurus.

613

Laura: let me tell you what I

fucking hate about this thing.

614

This intrusion into the Bang Bus, um,

you know, religious fanaticism and

615

all that bad, and people coming in

and beating people bad, all, all bad.

616

Xhafer: Yeah.

617

Violence.

618

Laura: I think there's a deliberate

choice here by the team, the

619

directors, the writers of all the

people who put these things together,

620

these sons of Aries that come in

621

Xhafer: Yeah.

622

Laura: looking for Gaas and they start

beating the shit out of a bunch of

623

women wanting to know where Gaas is.

624

Xhafer: Yes.

625

Laura: And none of them know because Gaas

is like scampered into the rafters and

626

he's letting a bunch of women get beat.

627

Instead of like stepping in front of that

628

Xhafer: Yes.

629

Laura: and saying, I'm here.

630

Leave my followers alone.

631

Don't touch these women.

632

There's like women who get like,

like, I don't know what it's called

633

when you punch someone across the

face, like with closed fists and

634

Xhafer: I,

635

Laura: women who get beat horrifically,

636

Xhafer: Yeah.

637

It's

638

Laura: grabbed by the hair.

639

Awful things.

640

We don't see it really happen

to any of his male followers.

641

Xhafer: Well, that's because

there really aren't any

642

Laura: There's like two,

we do see one later.

643

There's like one in a scene.

644

Yeah.

645

Xhafer: at the end when, like, it's

starts to become a more legitimized thing

646

Laura: Mm-hmm.

647

Xhafer: just the uh, the bang bus,

648

Laura: Yeah.

649

Xhafer: to still call it that, but

there's a lot more dudes at the

650

Laura: Yeah.

651

Xhafer: right now it's, they're

very few and far between.

652

And it's also like they were setting

up like a market, like everyone looked

653

like they were like setting up stalls.

654

Laura: Oh, it was

probably like the buffet.

655

'cause they've had that

buffet line for like dinner.

656

Xhafer: I mean, that sounds nice.

657

But they were

658

Laura: Mm-hmm.

659

Xhafer: hanging up artwork and stuff.

660

They were putting up

all their art projects,

661

Laura: Yeah.

662

They were just doing, doing little things.

663

Xhafer: or whatever they're doing.

664

Laura: I'm gonna need somebody to make

me a macaroni picture of guys ball tar.

665

'cause that would make me laugh.

666

Xhafer: Um, yeah, no,

it's fucking terrible.

667

Laura: Yeah.

668

I know there's gonna be some stuff

at the end that's like redemptive

669

towards this, but I was just like, hmm.

670

Xhafer: mm-hmm.

671

Laura: No.

672

I gave him some credit when he was

like, oh no wait, we're not perfect.

673

But then, nope, it's gone again.

674

Sorry.

675

Xhafer: Yeah.

676

And Tori's just like, what the fuck, dude?

677

Laura: Yeah.

678

And she's looking, she's like, I, I'm

not sure what's what exactly is happening

679

in Tori's head here, but she's gone,

she's had this like liberation from

680

Gais where she's like, oh, silence

can feel and silence's not bad.

681

And then she comes in with her this thing

and he's like, but we're not perfect.

682

And that's kind of rocking her world.

683

And then she sees him do this

like massively cowardly thing

684

Xhafer: Yeah.

685

Laura: that I don't, I don't know

what's going on in her head, and

686

I don't think I get any answers.

687

I don't think there's

any answers in my notes.

688

Xhafer: Not really.

689

Tyro fixes up racetrack's Raptor.

690

just thinking of Cali and the good

and the bad of their relationship.

691

Laura: Mm-hmm.

692

Xhafer: and he totally fracks it

up and they make a crash landing.

693

Did you think racetrack was dead here?

694

Laura: I thought the way this

thing crashed, I was like,

695

oh, racetracks totally did.

696

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

697

There's, this was like when we

see them like walking around

698

in the next scene, we see

699

Laura: Yeah, they're,

700

Xhafer: just

701

Laura: they're fine.

702

Xhafer: They're fine.

703

they are more than fine.

704

They're like mobile, like

705

Laura: It's wild.

706

Xhafer: Yeah.

707

Laura: This crash.

708

Xhafer: in real good.

709

'cause that crash was Well

710

Laura: It like smooshed the

whole nose of the thing.

711

Xhafer: it did, yeah.

712

No, it totally got crash zoned.

713

Um, and it's just like crunch zone,

whatever that part of the car they design

714

Laura: Oh yeah.

715

Crumble zone.

716

Yeah.

717

Xhafer: anyways.

718

And it's just like, okay, well.

719

There's no gravity here, right?

720

Laura: Mm-hmm.

721

Xhafer: light gravity, I'm

722

Laura: Sure.

723

Hmm.

724

Xhafer: So maybe it's like,

okay, they don't have that.

725

So it's just the force of the ship.

726

But it's still like flips and stuff.

727

But if

728

Laura: Yeah.

729

Xhafer: suspended, I guess you might

not have to deal with too much of that.

730

Laura: Maybe your suit has like an airbag

that goes off and just your big bubble.

731

Xhafer: Oh man.

732

I'd love to see that in a sci-fi

733

Laura: That'd be, that'd be

kind of fun, wouldn't it?

734

Xhafer: Yeah.

735

'cause you could do it for seriousness,

but then you could also pull it

736

off for comedy once or twice.

737

Where's the Orville?

738

The Orville needs this also,

the Orville needs to come back.

739

Laura: somebody gets Seth

McFarland on the line.

740

Xhafer: Next time I see him at

a convention, I'll yell this

741

idea at him across the room.

742

I'm sure that will go over well, Seth,

what if their suits were also airbags?

743

And he'll just look at me like,

what the fuck are you talking about?

744

Laura: Don't yell at a JMS though.

745

He'll be really pissed.

746

Xhafer: Yeah.

747

He hates it when you give him ideas.

748

'cause then he can't think

749

Laura: Yep.

750

Xhafer: like, or say

that they were his ideas.

751

Laura: Yeah.

752

So

753

Xhafer: mean, I, I get that.

754

Like,

755

that's why I don't

listen to other podcasts.

756

They're covering the same stuff we

757

Laura: well, that's true.

758

Yeah.

759

Mm-hmm.

760

Xhafer: so it's like, I can't, I

can't, I can't throw shade at that.

761

Laura: Yep.

762

No.

763

When, when he was repairing this

raptor, did you notice uh, Chekhov's

764

glass tube that he stuck in his pocket?

765

Xhafer: Yeah.

766

Laura: Oh, he forgot the glass tube.

767

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

768

Yeah.

769

He's, he, he double checks on this

glass tube in a little bit, but

770

first we see Baltar talking to the

space cops about the Sunset Aries.

771

Laura: Yeah.

772

He's being petulant, demanding as usual.

773

Like uh, these are

fundamentalist splinters.

774

They're why aren't you out catching them?

775

Why are you here talking to me?

776

Which is actually a part of

catching them, but whatever.

777

Xhafer: Yeah.

778

Don't

779

Laura: but,

780

Xhafer: me?

781

Laura: but six BT is like in

the background going, Hey, this

782

is the old Gods trying to fight

back against you guys and.

783

Xhafer: man.

784

If this were 2019, we'd totally be

talking about American gods right now.

785

Laura: Oh, I don't wanna do that though.

786

Xhafer: no.

787

Fuck you, Neil.

788

We don't get to do that anymore.

789

Laura: I never saw the show anyway.

790

I only read the book, but

791

Xhafer: I

792

Laura: nah.

793

Xhafer: the, I enjoyed

the book when I read it.

794

Laura: Yeah,

795

Xhafer: That was

796

uh,

797

Laura: that was like 20 years ago for me.

798

Xhafer: a while ago.

799

And uh, it's in the so I've,

I've just built the library right

800

Laura: Mm-hmm.

801

Yeah.

802

Xhafer: redone that room.

803

Uh, We have a box of books that is

labeled forbidden section is going to

804

be, it's not up on any shelves right now.

805

Laura: Mm-hmm.

806

Xhafer: think I might build a,

like, hidden chunk of the library.

807

I've got a

808

Laura: Uhhuh.

809

Xhafer: space where I could put

a, like panel that pops out and

810

then there could be books back

811

Laura: Mm-hmm.

812

Xhafer: And I think we might make

a little forbidden section and put

813

all of the authors who we remember

our time with the books fondly and

814

then found out they were shit bags.

815

Laura: Mm-hmm.

816

Yeah.

817

Yeah.

818

Wonder if there's any series

that will go in there.

819

Xhafer: Oh, it's in the same box.

820

A hundred percent.

821

Laura: Yeah.

822

Xhafer: Yep.

823

Laura: SVP.

824

Speaking of shitty people,

825

Xhafer: Yeah.

826

There's a segue.

827

Nailed it.

828

Laura: uh, Yeah.

829

The old gods are fighting

back against you.

830

The new God gaas it seems like.

831

Okay.

832

Tell me if I'm reading it wrong,

833

Xhafer: Okay.

834

Laura: like when six pt, I don't remember

if it's this scene or one of the, the next

835

scenes with her says like she's leading

him toward like, you are going to stand

836

up and you are going to be the one God

837

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

838

Laura: is.

839

She's not talking anymore about

there is the one God you just

840

need to give yourself over to.

841

It seems like she is leading him

toward he, him being the one God.

842

Am I crazy?

843

Xhafer: I mean, I don't read it that way.

844

I read it more Messiah e

845

Laura: Yeah, but the, I mean, that's

sort of the same thing though, like

846

Xhafer: it can be, but

it doesn't need to be,

847

Laura: yeah,

848

Xhafer: pro profit, not Messiah.

849

Maybe my terminology here is

850

uh,

851

Laura: yeah.

852

Xhafer: incorrect.

853

Laura: It,

854

Xhafer: bad person

855

Laura: well, I mean the,

856

Xhafer: too.

857

Laura: the Jesus is that he is also God.

858

Right?

859

He was made man, but he was God.

860

So it seems like it's going in

that direction, is what I'm saying.

861

Xhafer: I can see that read.

862

Laura: Mm-hmm.

863

Xhafer: Um, but I definitely didn't

feel that way my first time watching.

864

Laura: And, and I'm, I'm realizing,

I'm pretty sure it is in the

865

next scene with her that it gets

really in that direction for me.

866

Xhafer: Yeah,

867

Laura: 'cause it's when it's, it's when he

starts talking about we need to stand up

868

and that's not the scene, I don't think.

869

Xhafer: No, no, no.

870

It sets the next scene and he is

taking a stand against those who

871

oppress them, and then he proceeds to

oppress people who are just vibing.

872

Laura: Yeah.

873

In between, we have a scene with Tyrell.

874

Did we wanna talk about that or

875

Xhafer: Uh,

876

we see Tyro realizes that he's

the reason it crashed and he wants

877

people to yell at him for fucking up.

878

Laura: Mm-hmm.

879

Xhafer: But everyone's kinda all

like, bro, it's been 17 minutes of

880

screen time since your wife died.

881

Like, you can have a pass on this.

882

Laura: Well, the phrase that sets

him off specifically is racetrack,

883

telling him it's okay, he's only human,

884

Xhafer: Yeah,

885

Laura: and that's when he

loses his fucking shit.

886

Xhafer: Yeah.

887

Laura: Oh, Tyre.

888

That's kind of sad.

889

Xhafer: Yeah.

890

Laura: we get more of six PT,

stoking, Gaia's God complex, and.

891

Specifically, she's like saying

like, you are gonna be very special.

892

Right.

893

We can agree on that.

894

Xhafer: Yeah.

895

Laura: And he, he mm-hmm.

896

The specialist boy,

he's just a little guy,

897

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

898

Laura: Gais is like talking to her at

first and like, this isn't about me.

899

And it seems pretty sincere.

900

It's about the people.

901

And then he starts like speeching

to the room that we're, we

902

are gonna make our stand.

903

And he goes to the temple where

we're all just doing a service

904

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

905

Laura: Starts flipping tables.

906

Xhafer: Yeah.

907

Starts, oh, what absurd

story are you believing?

908

Zeus sprung babies from his head

909

Laura: Mm-hmm.

910

Xhafer: rapist,

911

Laura: Yeah.

912

Xhafer: they're like,

913

Laura: Oh, so they just kept

our stories intact, huh?

914

Yeah,

915

Xhafer: it's easy to relate that way.

916

Um,

917

Laura: yeah, yeah.

918

I, I was just like, that's funny.

919

Xhafer: yeah.

920

Laura: yeah, he is yelling about all the

gods flips the tables, but I was like,

921

Hmm, that sounds like a story I've heard.

922

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

923

Laura: Gets drug away by the guards.

924

Back to the bri apparently.

925

Okay, So Adama brought Rosalyn, another

book to read, but she didn't have,

926

she didn't have a big test today.

927

She didn't have a big bunch of

stuff, just a little blood test.

928

Xhafer: Little blood test today.

929

But he brings his favorite book ever.

930

The c writer, Falcon a has to

be the Maltese Falcon, right?

931

Laura: Oh, okay.

932

Yeah.

933

I was like, I don't know,

this is just like, okay.

934

Weird name.

935

Xhafer: it's a noir.

936

We know that that's what he's into.

937

Laura: Yeah.

938

I suppose that's true.

939

Xhafer: something here that

chilled me to my very core.

940

Laura: Yes.

941

Do do.

942

Go ahead.

943

Xhafer: He's never finished the book.

944

Laura: Which is clearly a lie.

945

We find out.

946

It's, it's a lie.

947

I'm, I'm pretty sure 'cause at the

end he starts, he's reading it to her,

948

Xhafer: Yeah,

949

Laura: he closes the book

as he's reading the end.

950

Xhafer: he does.

951

Is he making it up?

952

He's just making it up.

953

Laura: You think he's making it up?

954

I thought he had it memorized.

955

Xhafer: suddenly takes a turn towards

being about like accepting death very

956

Laura: Oh, did it?

957

Xhafer: closes the book.

958

Laura: Oh, see, I didn't finish the

show when I watched it again today.

959

'cause I got to a certain point we haven't

got to yet and said, nah, I'm fine.

960

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

961

Laura: Okay.

962

I'll have to go back and watch that part.

963

I guess maybe he's making it up.

964

I thought he had it memorized.

965

I thought he was lying to

her and he knew it by heart.

966

Xhafer: that would be such a good thing.

967

Like that would be such a

good, like I, I appreciate it.

968

Either way,

969

Laura: Mm-hmm.

970

Xhafer: of these things is true, either

way, I'm delighted with Ron Moore.

971

Laura: Yeah.

972

Xhafer: I

973

Laura: Okay.

974

Xhafer: has been answered

on the internet somewhere.

975

Laura: I can't know about it yet.

976

I'm gonna watch it again with

your read on it and see if I,

977

if I'm like, oh yeah, that's it.

978

Or if it could be either one to be okay.

979

Xhafer: the shift, the tone

changes a little bit or something.

980

Laura: Yeah.

981

Yeah.

982

Xhafer: I

983

Laura: Okay.

984

Xhafer: we could just him at

Star Trek Las Vegas this year.

985

Laura: We could.

986

Yeah, no, I just, I thought

when he said this at the end,

987

I was like, oh, that's weird.

988

And then I saw the end and I

thought, oh, he's, he was lying.

989

He knows this by heart, but she's,

she's read this book too, right?

990

She's saying, oh, I love that book.

991

Or No, she hasn't read it yet.

992

Okay.

993

Okay.

994

Xhafer: Which

995

Laura: Yeah.

996

Xhafer: probably also bullshit because

hasn't she said she's read every

997

book in the fleet at this point.

998

Laura: Well, maybe that

was just hyperbole,

999

Xhafer: Fair.

00:36:03,666 --> 00:36:04,926

Um.

00:36:04,982 --> 00:36:07,802

Laura: if he's the only one who's

got a copy of this, then I could

00:36:07,802 --> 00:36:08,732

see why you haven't read it.

00:36:08,732 --> 00:36:10,442

Even if you have read

every book in the fleet.

00:36:11,221 --> 00:36:13,716

Xhafer: I mean, you've probably

read every book in his room.

00:36:14,582 --> 00:36:17,612

Laura: I mean, she could,

she's over there sometimes.

00:36:17,616 --> 00:36:17,796

Xhafer: over

00:36:18,032 --> 00:36:18,362

Laura: Yeah.

00:36:18,632 --> 00:36:18,992

So,

00:36:20,076 --> 00:36:20,796

Xhafer: Um,

00:36:21,002 --> 00:36:22,562

Laura: she's not reading when she's there.

00:36:22,836 --> 00:36:23,046

Xhafer: oh,

00:36:25,592 --> 00:36:26,972

Laura: I like making you uncomfortable.

00:36:28,146 --> 00:36:28,896

Xhafer: mommy and daddy?

00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:29,676

No.

00:36:34,367 --> 00:36:35,477

Laura: No, the other day.

00:36:35,777 --> 00:36:36,017

Okay.

00:36:36,017 --> 00:36:40,217

This is not about, I, I've been

listening to sometimes the Battlestar

00:36:40,247 --> 00:36:42,077

soundtracks that I can listen to,

00:36:42,306 --> 00:36:42,606

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:44,327

Laura: the seasons one through three,

00:36:44,561 --> 00:36:44,981

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:45,977

Laura: my study music.

00:36:46,757 --> 00:36:50,057

And sometimes I know what it's about.

00:36:50,057 --> 00:36:53,147

You know, what's happening in

the music, like the, the fleeting

00:36:53,147 --> 00:36:54,347

piano of silent bullshit.

00:36:54,407 --> 00:36:55,517

We know what's happening there.

00:36:55,811 --> 00:36:56,101

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:36:56,117 --> 00:36:59,387

Laura: Um, but not all of them.

00:36:59,387 --> 00:37:00,317

I don't know all of them.

00:37:00,347 --> 00:37:02,717

And this one comes on and I just

started thinking, I was like, man,

00:37:03,587 --> 00:37:05,657

I just want mom and dad to be happy.

00:37:06,437 --> 00:37:10,517

And I looked at the, the title and it

was something about Rosalyn and Adama.

00:37:10,847 --> 00:37:12,017

I was like, oh, I nailed it.

00:37:13,547 --> 00:37:15,077

I just want mom and dad to be happy.

00:37:15,471 --> 00:37:17,910

Xhafer: Yeah, you've read the room.

00:37:18,146 --> 00:37:18,716

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:37:19,650 --> 00:37:21,829

Xhafer: they talk about

they're like, oh, great.

00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:22,999

Religious infighting.

00:37:22,999 --> 00:37:24,409

Exactly what we needed.

00:37:24,841 --> 00:37:25,231

Laura: Yeah.

00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:26,160

Xhafer: Can't wait.

00:37:26,806 --> 00:37:28,696

Laura: the end of the world is

happening and there are only

00:37:28,696 --> 00:37:31,906

30,000 of us left, but we're trying

to kick each other's teeth in.

00:37:31,906 --> 00:37:33,076

And that just kinda like,

00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:34,650

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:35,266

Laura: of hurt.

00:37:36,215 --> 00:37:36,575

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:37:36,856 --> 00:37:39,076

Laura: It's like it kind of hurts.

00:37:39,816 --> 00:37:44,107

Xhafer: Ty goes down and is like, Hey,

six uh, do you live with this guilt?

00:37:44,107 --> 00:37:46,567

You've got like an off switch, right.

00:37:46,627 --> 00:37:47,947

Asking for a friend.

00:37:49,637 --> 00:37:49,697

Laura: Yeah.

00:37:49,787 --> 00:37:53,117

You killed billions of people and it

doesn't seem, you seem to be fine.

00:37:53,177 --> 00:37:56,117

Like how does, how does that happen?

00:37:56,565 --> 00:38:01,727

she says that I think she objects

to the characterization and

00:38:01,727 --> 00:38:04,007

then is like, we are the same,

00:38:04,791 --> 00:38:05,121

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:38:05,297 --> 00:38:05,897

Laura: and me.

00:38:07,097 --> 00:38:11,687

And Saul doesn't, Saul don't

like that he gets the guns.

00:38:12,021 --> 00:38:12,411

Xhafer: Yep.

00:38:14,377 --> 00:38:14,887

Laura: Oh.

00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:15,840

Xhafer: What?

00:38:15,925 --> 00:38:19,765

Laura: forgot to mention early in

the EPIs earlier in the episode, like

00:38:20,545 --> 00:38:24,775

back when Saul and Tori came to visit,

I'm looking at what's happening next.

00:38:24,775 --> 00:38:27,145

So Tyrell's in the repair bay

00:38:27,495 --> 00:38:27,915

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:38:27,985 --> 00:38:29,995

Laura: and he's just like working late.

00:38:30,805 --> 00:38:34,885

I don't know if the show mentioned

it, but I was like, he's just

00:38:34,885 --> 00:38:36,745

totally forgotten about his son.

00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:37,560

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:38:38,305 --> 00:38:42,625

Laura: When Ty and Tori were

over, like telling him to, to

00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:45,791

keep it together, Nikki was crying

00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:46,490

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:38:47,051 --> 00:38:49,631

Laura: and Tiarra was like,

oh, he probably needs a change.

00:38:49,751 --> 00:38:51,701

And didn't even like move to touch him.

00:38:52,185 --> 00:38:52,515

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:38:52,961 --> 00:38:56,201

Laura: And I think Ty was gonna get

it, which was pretty funny to me.

00:38:57,611 --> 00:39:00,521

'cause Ty says something

that sort of implies like.

00:39:01,721 --> 00:39:02,381

Oh fine.

00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:02,861

You know,

00:39:03,135 --> 00:39:03,495

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:39:03,641 --> 00:39:07,294

Laura: but I was like, he's just

like forgotten about his son.

00:39:07,294 --> 00:39:12,784

He's working late, even though like,

you got a baby to take care of, dude.

00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:13,444

I don't know.

00:39:14,264 --> 00:39:16,574

Xhafer: There is a very young child.

00:39:17,554 --> 00:39:19,084

Laura: Not good.

00:39:19,234 --> 00:39:20,044

Not good.

00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:23,990

but back in the Bri, we

were looking at Ellen again.

00:39:24,389 --> 00:39:24,809

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:39:25,607 --> 00:39:28,592

I'm glad they found a way to

get Kate Vernon a paycheck.

00:39:28,738 --> 00:39:29,158

Laura: Yeah.

00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:29,968

I guess

00:39:30,452 --> 00:39:33,602

Xhafer: much as I loathe

the character of Ellen Ty.

00:39:34,232 --> 00:39:37,652

Like I, I love that character because

Kate Vernon does such a good job,

00:39:37,948 --> 00:39:42,448

Laura: she does a very good job and it's

so weird seeing her in the six outfit.

00:39:43,352 --> 00:39:43,862

Xhafer: Right?

00:39:43,862 --> 00:39:44,402

Yeah.

00:39:44,402 --> 00:39:45,662

It's super offputting.

00:39:45,662 --> 00:39:46,982

I mean, it's supposed to be,

00:39:46,993 --> 00:39:47,413

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:39:48,123 --> 00:39:48,413

Yeah.

00:39:48,563 --> 00:39:48,853

Yeah.

00:39:49,643 --> 00:39:56,993

but she's offering him absolution that

he seems to want, but tries to reject,

00:39:57,358 --> 00:39:57,778

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:39:58,244 --> 00:40:01,004

we see Rosalyn fuck with

Baltar for a minute.

00:40:01,484 --> 00:40:05,144

She's like, look, bitch, I'm dying

and I don't give a fuck anymore.

00:40:05,564 --> 00:40:08,594

So if your name comes across

my desk again, it's gonna be a

00:40:08,594 --> 00:40:12,194

problem, but I'm gonna wave my hand

and make all this shit go away.

00:40:12,194 --> 00:40:12,854

Right now

00:40:13,774 --> 00:40:14,064

Laura: Yeah.

00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:14,589

Yeah.

00:40:15,164 --> 00:40:18,704

Xhafer: I want to go out with the,

I want to go, I want the scoreboard

00:40:18,704 --> 00:40:21,014

to read Rosalyn one, Baltar zero.

00:40:21,014 --> 00:40:21,549

When I go,

00:40:24,009 --> 00:40:27,759

Laura: She's not so interested in

rules and laws anymore, I think

00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,649

is, is the gist of the whole thing.

00:40:29,924 --> 00:40:30,974

Xhafer: it directly,

00:40:31,059 --> 00:40:31,389

Laura: Yeah.

00:40:31,389 --> 00:40:33,729

She says, I'm not so interested

in rules and laws yet.

00:40:33,789 --> 00:40:35,949

I wondered if that was

a direct quote or not.

00:40:35,949 --> 00:40:36,939

I should have put quotes around it.

00:40:37,334 --> 00:40:37,724

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:40:37,877 --> 00:40:38,357

Laura: hmm.

00:40:38,783 --> 00:40:42,503

She's gonna do her job, but she's

not interested in rules and laws.

00:40:43,583 --> 00:40:44,988

Xhafer: In charge of rules and laws.

00:40:46,098 --> 00:40:47,148

Laura: yeah.

00:40:47,688 --> 00:40:48,318

Yeah.

00:40:48,618 --> 00:40:49,578

Not liking that.

00:40:50,028 --> 00:40:51,668

Also too real.

00:40:51,778 --> 00:40:51,852

I,

00:40:52,052 --> 00:40:52,622

Xhafer: For sure.

00:40:53,432 --> 00:40:53,672

sure.

00:40:53,672 --> 00:40:54,422

For sure, for sure.

00:40:55,005 --> 00:40:55,935

Laura: make it sadder.

00:40:56,055 --> 00:40:57,315

Let's just make it sadder.

00:40:58,129 --> 00:41:00,464

Xhafer: Tyrell is drinking

00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,780

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:41:02,284 --> 00:41:07,865

Xhafer: and the admiral comes and tries

to console him, he just fucking lets

00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:10,235

out every, well, almost everything.

00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,400

Laura: Almost.

00:41:11,722 --> 00:41:12,022

Yeah.

00:41:12,027 --> 00:41:15,112

He like hallucinates, Adama,

calling him a silent, right.

00:41:15,117 --> 00:41:15,447

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:41:16,225 --> 00:41:16,675

Laura: Oh.

00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,565

And oh, this is so sad.

00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:26,020

He goes on this huge tirade about

how he settled for Cali and never

00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:28,270

really wanted her or this life,

00:41:28,484 --> 00:41:28,904

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:41:29,470 --> 00:41:33,850

Laura: Not great when I just pointed

out that he's neglecting his son.

00:41:35,204 --> 00:41:35,494

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:36,130

Laura: Oh boy.

00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:44,209

but Adama tries to like give him a chance

to gracefully exit this conversation

00:41:44,779 --> 00:41:46,669

as best you can at this point.

00:41:47,621 --> 00:41:51,641

But he goes on about how

Adama doesn't know him.

00:41:52,211 --> 00:41:55,781

He doesn't care about him,

he doesn't care about anyone.

00:41:55,781 --> 00:41:57,461

He only cares about his ship.

00:41:58,397 --> 00:42:01,487

and then Adam is like, one

more time I'm asking you to

00:42:01,637 --> 00:42:04,187

gracefully exit this conversation.

00:42:06,597 --> 00:42:09,337

But 2-year-old just begs

for demotion instead.

00:42:09,743 --> 00:42:10,313

Xhafer: Yep.

00:42:11,223 --> 00:42:12,183

Laura: He needs punished.

00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:12,573

Mm-hmm.

00:42:13,053 --> 00:42:13,263

Yeah.

00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:16,790

Xhafer: He he gets uh, told

that he's being reassigned.

00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:17,870

His title has changed.

00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:19,610

He's specialist instead of chief.

00:42:20,161 --> 00:42:20,671

Laura: Yeah.

00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,199

Xhafer: There's a line in here

that I want to call attention to,

00:42:24,449 --> 00:42:25,199

Laura: Please do.

00:42:25,259 --> 00:42:25,799

Please do.

00:42:26,699 --> 00:42:29,729

Xhafer: He's all like, you know,

Callie was a great woman, you

00:42:29,729 --> 00:42:31,769

know, integral part of the crew.

00:42:32,099 --> 00:42:34,739

And he's like, if you really

fucking believed that, you

00:42:34,739 --> 00:42:37,829

wouldn't have threatened to

kill her like four episodes ago

00:42:38,823 --> 00:42:39,843

Laura: Was it only four?

00:42:39,933 --> 00:42:40,743

It was more than that.

00:42:40,743 --> 00:42:41,103

Yeah.

00:42:41,182 --> 00:42:42,142

Xhafer: like eight or nine or

00:42:42,243 --> 00:42:43,773

Laura: Yeah, but still,

00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:44,830

Xhafer: Yep.

00:42:45,891 --> 00:42:48,291

Laura: I mean, I don't know.

00:42:49,056 --> 00:42:54,336

I can give dad some grace on

that, but I can understand why

00:42:54,336 --> 00:42:56,976

2-year-old is an ass about it too.

00:42:58,566 --> 00:43:01,416

But I mean, she was an

integral part of the crew.

00:43:01,416 --> 00:43:03,306

She had a lot of people's trust.

00:43:03,306 --> 00:43:06,606

That's the only reason she was able

to like, pull off a mutiny maneuver.

00:43:06,606 --> 00:43:07,176

So

00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:07,825

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:43:08,646 --> 00:43:11,226

Laura: I don't know what

you want here, Tyrell.

00:43:11,976 --> 00:43:12,516

Uh,

00:43:12,655 --> 00:43:13,195

Xhafer: He doesn't.

00:43:13,472 --> 00:43:16,922

Laura: and a lot of that, honestly,

a lot of Callie's like trust that

00:43:16,922 --> 00:43:20,192

she had from others was borrowed

from Tyrell, to be honest.

00:43:20,612 --> 00:43:25,952

Like he had a lot of the like,

reputation among the two of them I think.

00:43:26,102 --> 00:43:26,492

So,

00:43:26,661 --> 00:43:28,551

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:43:28,737 --> 00:43:34,527

We go over to a quorum meeting where

they're restricting the right to assemble

00:43:35,258 --> 00:43:35,588

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:43:35,997 --> 00:43:36,267

Xhafer: the.

00:43:37,028 --> 00:43:37,478

Laura: Yeah.

00:43:37,748 --> 00:43:41,048

We're restricting the right to

assemble because then people won't

00:43:41,048 --> 00:43:43,898

go after Baltar's group 'cause

they won't all be in one place.

00:43:43,898 --> 00:43:46,718

Is like the, the veneer on it all.

00:43:46,977 --> 00:43:47,277

Xhafer: Yeah,

00:43:47,453 --> 00:43:47,573

Laura: I,

00:43:47,877 --> 00:43:49,257

Xhafer: super fucking backwards.

00:43:49,343 --> 00:43:50,258

Laura: it's like, okay.

00:43:51,207 --> 00:43:53,427

Xhafer: there, there's some

worry about like, well, if this

00:43:53,427 --> 00:43:58,587

applies to like non predominant

religion, what about the methy?

00:43:59,513 --> 00:44:00,173

Laura: The who's,

00:44:00,837 --> 00:44:01,887

Xhafer: The Methy?

00:44:02,153 --> 00:44:04,583

Laura: I don't know if that's

been brought up and I honestly

00:44:04,583 --> 00:44:05,723

don't remember those words.

00:44:05,753 --> 00:44:06,293

Tell me more.

00:44:07,147 --> 00:44:08,437

Xhafer: It hasn't been brought up.

00:44:08,437 --> 00:44:09,397

You're not crazy.

00:44:09,558 --> 00:44:09,848

Laura: Okay?

00:44:09,907 --> 00:44:14,527

Xhafer: Uh, But this is

another memory thing.

00:44:14,796 --> 00:44:15,991

Metra was a

00:44:16,167 --> 00:44:16,177

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:16,501 --> 00:44:16,921

Xhafer: god

00:44:17,637 --> 00:44:17,997

Laura: Okay.

00:44:18,031 --> 00:44:22,771

Xhafer: who migrated to the

Roman pantheon at some point.

00:44:22,921 --> 00:44:30,181

And there was like a rather famous

like legion air cult like Roman

00:44:30,181 --> 00:44:32,221

soldiers who all worshiped metra.

00:44:33,057 --> 00:44:33,417

Laura: Huh?

00:44:33,451 --> 00:44:33,991

Xhafer: whole thing.

00:44:34,737 --> 00:44:35,667

Laura: That's neat.

00:44:36,147 --> 00:44:38,217

What a fun reference to throw in there.

00:44:38,581 --> 00:44:39,151

Xhafer: yeah,

00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:42,590

Laura: I don't know if that's gonna be

more of a thing, but it's a fun little

00:44:43,015 --> 00:44:43,285

Xhafer: it's a

00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:43,700

Laura: out.

00:44:43,735 --> 00:44:46,105

Xhafer: thing and it's like,

oh, there's this other religion.

00:44:46,375 --> 00:44:47,995

We tolerate them.

00:44:48,475 --> 00:44:49,195

Like

00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:50,030

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:50,485 --> 00:44:51,835

Xhafer: we tolerate this?

00:44:51,865 --> 00:44:54,505

And she's all like, no,

because of baltar are,

00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:56,780

Laura: I mean, I get it.

00:44:58,310 --> 00:44:59,930

He super sucks.

00:45:00,535 --> 00:45:01,885

Xhafer: he does super suck.

00:45:01,885 --> 00:45:03,115

She should have just said that.

00:45:03,145 --> 00:45:03,355

It's

00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:03,740

Laura: Yeah,

00:45:03,895 --> 00:45:06,865

Xhafer: you've seen what happens

when he gets followers and power

00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:09,680

Laura: he sucks.

00:45:09,835 --> 00:45:10,495

Xhafer: sucks.