Summary:

As we are being enveloped in His love, we are finding that there is a relationship to the Father beyond the cross. He is not relating to us as He did in days gone by. He is relating to us in a new way and it therefore requires us to relate to Him in a new way.

Show Notes:

• God is enveloping us in His Love.

• There is a life with God beyond the cross.

• We are changing not by the dealings of God or the cross of Christ in our life, but by the Father's love.

• Is it easier for us to believe in the cross of Christ than in His love that He is beaming toward us?

• Because of being nailed to the cross, we can now move into the Father's love. By standing in His presence by exposing ourselves to His love we are changed.

• We are being surrounded by so great cloud of witnesses. We are being surrounded by the love of the Father and the saints of God here and there.

Quotes:

• We change. I mean, we're transformed, we're changing in His love. We're being enveloped in his love, we're changing daily.

• There's a scripture that says, for those who are looking for Him, He will appear again, without a focus on sin, meaning that there's a relationship with Him beyond the cross.

• His love is the refining fire. His love, gets out all of the imperfections, all of the dross, so that we become the pure gold, that pure thing before Him.

• We can move deep enough into God's love. The cross can be imparted thoroughly, and completely. The people and His work would be done - that it does not have to be a process that it has been with us through the years.
• I believe so much in providing an atmosphere and this exposure to the Father. That's how people are changed.
• But I honestly believe the thoroughness of the cross can be imparted. It can be imparted to people, and they can die and be resurrected right then. It doesn't have to be the process that we've known it to be.

Scriptural References:

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation.

Hebrews 12: 22-23 but ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable hosts of angels 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Hebrews 12: 1 Therefore let us also, seeing we are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Matthew 11:30 “For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.”

Matthew 20:1-16 Parable of the vineyard...

Take Away:

As we move into His love in a deeper way, we are finding that the Father begins to relate to us differently. Now it is not the dealings and the cross of Christ so much that is the emphasis for change in our lives, but His deep love is what changes and controls us. As we are transformed by His love we are then able to impart this deep transformational love to others.

Ron

We change. I mean, we're transformed, we're changing in his love. We're being enveloped in his love, we're changing daily. Sometimes we're imperceptible, but we are just by focusing on Him. It just blows me away how simple the Lord makes it, and how much complicated we make it. Our minds make it so complicated. And God goes, just focus on me. I'm not asking a lot out of you, you don't have to go do miracles, you don't have to give your body to be burned. You don't have to be a martyr, you don't have to, you don't have to do all these things. You just have to focus on me, just focus on me.

Roger

We're moving into the goodness of the Lord in a new way. And He is not relating to us today the way He did decades ago, years ago. God has worked in our lives all these years, to bring us into a place of openness, a place of worship, of submission to Him, I just keep sensing there's a new day, a new way of God relating to us and the way we're gonna relate to Him. There's a scripture that says, for those who are looking for Him, He will appear again, without the focus of sin, right, meaning that there's a relationship with Him beyond the cross. And that's what I'm looking for, that has to come to pass. And we dare to believe it. We dare to lay hold of that revelation.

Jim

If we don't believe that we're being controlled religiously. By cliches and by symbols in our mind that we think something means this, that God has really stripped a lot of that away from us.

Ron

We're being changed, not by the dealings of God, or by the cross of Christ anymore. We're being changed by his love.

Roger

That's a hard thing to accept our religious flesh nature, can't accept that. There's a joy set before us. I want to partake of what I know God has set before us. In Hebrews 12, He talks about we've come to Zion, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, God is perfecting our spirits, where our hearts are humble, our hearts are open. That's the way David was, he was called a man after God's own heart. And he screwed up 100 ways. But there was something in his spirit that God related to. And I think that's what the Lord has accomplished in us. And we're going to relate to Him different. We accept the love that He has toward us. We just are, we're going to believe in His love.

Mike

His love is the refining fire. His love, gets out all of the imperfections, all of the dross, so that we become the pure gold, that pure thing before Him. Now we're in the time where the fires applied the fire of His love to be refining this gold, it's purifying us. And the ultimate goal here is it's going to be a tremendous blessing to Christ.

Tricia

Hebrews 12, it talks about being surrounded by some great a cloud of witnesses. Or we could just say, being surrounded by the love of the Father and the saints of God here and there. Then we lay aside every weight, we open up to His love directly and through each other. He's just getting rid of all the stuff that's in the way, that's the way to look at it and all the weights are falling off and run the race. In the middle of it, we grabbed the honeycomb we we get as much of Him as we can as as those weights are dropping off the sometimes the weights a little wanna stick a little bit, you know, they don't always go so fast. We have to have that honey, we have to have that strength as we're going running the race.

Roger

Do you think for us, it tends to be easier to believe in the cross than in the love of God and the blessing He has toward us? There's something in us it's easy to hear about the cross, thinking how screwed up we are. So the cross becomes something easy to talk about. Think it's harder to believe in the love of the Father toward us. We can move out of that cross that was necessary to bring us to where we are right now. And we can start taking these steps deeper into the love of the Father believing it, accepting it. We can't go on forever talking about the cross. I know it's been necessary, I know it's real. But there just comes the time when we get to step past that, and start believing in God's perfection in us. His perfection, not our own, and accepting some things. Because I think God wants to pour out His heart and blessing upon us. Days passed, maybe He could not do that, because things in us had to die, things had to change, we have come to a place that we can walk in a greater capacity of knowing His love of knowing His blessing and goodness toward us. Let's go into life talking about how much He loves us. And His goodness, it's been set before us. That's the word for the hour we're in.

Cesar

Instead of a being nailed to a cross. Now we change more by standing in His presence by exposing ourselves to the Father, to His light. Exposure changes us.

Ron

We are always talking about the cross of Christ. But what about the resurrection? The resurrection of Christ, the love of God; and sooner or later, you have to cross that line. And actually, we're not making this decision, folks, the Holy Spirit is making this decision. We don't make the decision He makes the decision.

Pat

His yoke is easy. You know, it's been such a hard thing to see that. My yoke is easy. My burden is light on you.

Mike

It's because of the love. It's because of the love, it's easy, and it's lighter.

Roger

Do you believe that if we can move deep enough into what we're talking about tonight, that it can be imparted to the younger ones coming forth, that somehow the cross that we have known, somehow there can be change? Maybe Maybe it can't maybe everyone has to go through things till they get to wherever God's taking them? I don't know. But I just keep wondering if there's a deeper place that we can move into where we can impart to others, the things that we've come into, without them having to struggle, a lifetime with the cross.

Pat

There is a new platform, people will be born into that platform.

Roger

Yes,

Ron

There you go.

Tricia

Don't forget that the thing about the vineyard you guys. Remember that people that came in on the 11th hour, they got the same wages that the owner of the vineyard was happy with him. But that's a principle.

Roger

There's a scripture that says, I will do a quick work in the earth thoroughly. We can move deep enough into God's love. The cross can be imparted thoroughly, and completely with people and his work would be done that it does not have to be a process that it has been with us through the years.

Ron

You know what, Roger, as we move into His love in a deeper ways, people are just going to get caught up in that. They'll find themselves walking in things that they didn't attain. They didn't walk through dealings and stuff to attain it.

Cesar

I believe so much in providing an atmosphere and this exposure to the Father. That's how people are changed.

Roger

How long does it take? Christ hung on the cross for three hours? I know it's taken us pretty much a lifetime to get here. But I honestly believe the thoroughness of the cross can be imparted. It can be imparted to people, and they can die and be resurrected right then. It doesn't have to be the process that we've known it to be. That we can and we are moving into a realm of completeness, where we can impart that same completeness.

Dale

I could not imagine being alive without relationship to God. I love you and I receive whatever you have for me, I receive it with love. I receive it with a broken spirit and a contrite heart, because I know you love me.