Filmmaker and Thrive co-founder Gary Turner joins Jennifer for a grounded conversation about what it means to witness human pain, resilience, and transformation with care. Together, they explore the responsibility of holding another’s story — and why the magic often emerges when we stay present in the mess rather than turning away.
What You’ll Hear:
- How Gary’s therapeutic training shaped a new kind of filmmaking: presence behind the lens
- Why silence is one of the most powerful tools in healing-centered storytelling
- The difference between “capturing” a story and holding a story with care and consent
- What resilience looks like when we’re allowed to find our tears — and why that matters
- How Thrive was born as a container for what gets stirred after a film ends
- Gary’s answer to the closing question: the magic is in stepping in, staying in, and connecting
Resources Mentioned
- community + events: https://thrive.one/?via=jennifer
- Thrive films referenced: Skids + Real (mentioned as part of Thrive’s origin story),
- Upcoming/active projects mentioned: Medicine (with Rueben George), Hold On To Your Kids (with Dr. Gabor Maté + Gordon Neufeld), and Hilarapy a humor + recovery-focused project with Lizzie Allen
- Related Podcast Episodes:Episode 27 — Interview with Merissa Turner (cinematherapy, nervous system safety, healing in community)
- Episode 28 — Jennifer’s solo reflection (Patterns to Possibility: Satir, family systems, and healing held in community)
Featured Guest: Gary Turner
Gary Turner is a filmmaker, storyteller, and co-founder of Thrive. Blending decades of documentary craft with deep therapeutic training, Gary creates films that slow us down, bypass the defenses, and invite us back into what’s most human — feeling, connection, and healing together.
Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel
Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.
Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.
Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.
Connect with the Host:
Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/
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