The things that once filled a man with shame, like a stutter or a chronic illness, can become the source of his greatest strength. My guest Lee Zuniss stuttered from about age six into his thirties. He dreaded school, never raised his hand, and believed his stutter meant he wasn't smart. At 13 he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and started hiding again, slipping into school bathrooms to prick his finger. Only in recent years has he seen what those struggles gave him. His speech therapist taught him to take a breath before speaking. He was practicing mindfulness long before most people knew the word. Checking his blood sugar six to ten times a day taught him to notice what his body was telling him. Mike Forrester relates. He learned at 40 that he and two of his kids are dyslexic, and reading aloud in class once terrified him.
For years, fear kept Lee in the harbor. He worked in his family's business and felt safe, but he had no sense of purpose. He loved acting and discovered he never stuttered when he'd memorized his lines. Even so, the anxiety nearly made it not worth it. He went on stage anyway, step after step, because he didn't want to reach the end of his life with regrets. Over about 20 years of walking into the fire, his confidence grew and the stutter faded. His ex-wife of 12 years served as a mirror. She showed him that other people weren't thinking what he feared they were thinking. Today he leans on a phrase a friend gave him. How can this get even better? It turns a good moment into an opening for more.
Lee's biggest lesson is to stop carrying it alone. When anxiety turned into a heavy, paralyzing depression, he chose a therapist who also has type 1 diabetes. He called trusted people who could listen without trying to fix him. Now, feeling alone with something is his signal to reach out. Mike Forrester teaches that a man should quit trying to fix himself by himself, and Lee lives it. After about 20 years in Brooklyn, he and his wife moved to the Colorado mountains. They share land there with her father and sister. He says nature calms his nervous system every day, and he now coaches men toward the same peace. If you're a father who still hides what shamed you as a kid, this conversation will help you stop carrying it alone.
What You'll Learn In This Episode:
- Take a deep breath before you speak to ground yourself when nerves hit.
- Recognize how hiding a stutter, an illness, or a private struggle feeds shame.
- Ask "how can this get even better?" to open up more gratitude and possibility.
- Step toward the work and passions you love even when anxiety rises, so you don't live with regrets.
- Reach out to a therapist or a trusted friend the moment you feel alone with something heavy.
- See how a supportive wife can help you stop believing everyone sees you the way you see yourself.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:10:00 - growing up with a stutter and type 1 diabetes
00:12:00 - how shame makes you hide what you struggle with
00:14:00 - how breath work for stuttering built a lifelong mindfulness practice
00:16:00 - how managing blood sugar taught him to listen to his body
00:20:00 - asking how this can get even better
00:25:00 - how fear keeps you playing it safe as an adult
00:26:00 - why he never stuttered when acting
00:28:00 - living in the harbor when you were built for more
00:31:00 - how a supportive partner helps you let go of shame
00:36:00 - why you shouldn't stay alone with heavy feelings
00:38:00 - choosing a therapist who understands what you're going through
00:44:00 - living so you don't have regrets
Connect with Lee Zuniss
Website
https://www.leezunisscoaching.com
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/leezunisscoaching/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/leezunisscoaching/
Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/lee.zuniss
Connect with Mike Forrester
Podcast Website
https://LivingFearlessTodayPodcast.com
Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/hicoachmike
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hicoachmike/
Coaching Website
https://www.hicoachmike.com/
Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/@hicoachmike