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What shook up the world of precision agriculture in 2025? In this exclusive deep dive, Harry Duran sits down with Sepehr Achard, fellow co-founder of iGrow News, to explore the striking trends and surprising signals from the just-released 2025 Precision Ag Intelligence Report. From the surging impact of AI on product development—and the sudden vulnerability of software-only companies—to unexpected M&A moves like food giants buying robotics startups and why a drop in patent filings could predict a seismic shift, this episode connects the industry’s hidden dots.
Discover why $600 million in funding might no longer guarantee success, the mysterious surge of patents out of China (but almost none granted), and which countries are quietly emerging as ag innovation hubs. The guests grapple with the future of metrics like "compute cost per acre," the looming prospect of AI-taxation, and whether distribution—rather than technology—could become the true differentiator.
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"It's not a differentiator anymore to have fancy technology or AI you can create; the real differentiators are controlling the data, owning the hardware, and—most importantly—having the distribution."
"The cost of developing new products is dramatically decreasing, but the cost of introducing these products to market is increasing; developing technology alone doesn't mean much anymore because it can be replicated quickly and cheaply."
"China has a patent creation engine driven by universities, but once you look at actual granted patents and real technology, there are overlooked hubs like Korea, Japan, India, Israel, the Netherlands, and the U.S. producing innovations that are truly patentable and impactful."
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Welcome back. We have a special bonus episode today across all of our
Speaker:podcasts. So you may be Hearing this on AgTech Digest, vertical
Speaker:farming Podcast or Greenhouse Success Stories. Today, I'm
Speaker:sitting down with my fellow co founder, Sepp Rachard of
Speaker:iGrow News, and he's the creator of the
Speaker:2025 Precision Ag Intelligence Report.
Speaker:Sepp, thanks for joining me on the podcast. Yeah, thanks for
Speaker:having me, Harry. So excited to
Speaker:put this episode together. It was your idea that we do this, and I
Speaker:think it makes a lot of sense. You've done a lot of work to put
Speaker:this report together, a lot of hard work behind the scenes.
Speaker:And it's not just a market overview. Just normally you would
Speaker:see something like this and it's just pulled from a couple of press releases, but
Speaker:you've really tracked over 250 market events
Speaker:from 2025. Funding rounds, acquisitions,
Speaker:partnerships, product launches, executive hires, and then
Speaker:cross referenced it against patent data, which
Speaker:is, I thought was interesting, covering, if I read correctly, more
Speaker:than 105,000 filings globally. So it's a
Speaker:report that connects a lot of dots most people in the industry aren't even aware
Speaker:of. Yeah. So we pulled 200, well, more than
Speaker:250 market events from press releases, articles that we
Speaker:published. And in addition to that, we looked at over
Speaker:105,000 patents that were filed since
Speaker:2024. The reason being 2024 and
Speaker:not 2025 is that usually you got this 18 to 24
Speaker:months lag in the public data that is
Speaker:available. And so some of
Speaker:the patent applications haven't been yet processed.
Speaker:And so usually when you look even for 2025, you would see
Speaker:a major drop from June onwards,
Speaker:which doesn't mean anything. It's just because there's a
Speaker:log lag pretty much. And I think what struck me the most
Speaker:is some of the things that popped out when you're
Speaker:looking through this. The over $600 million in
Speaker:funding, the M and A deals, the product launches. But you see things
Speaker:like a food company acquiring a robotics startup, or this
Speaker:observation that when companies stop filing patents,
Speaker:it could be a signal that something else is happening behind the scenes. We'll
Speaker:get into the specifics, but I'm curious what you saw that jumped out at you
Speaker:from the data. That might have been a little bit of a surprise. Not so
Speaker:much a surprise, but perhaps the scale and
Speaker:how quickly it's happening. It's just the impact of
Speaker:AI in product development. And that's something that I think
Speaker:is not talked about enough. And it's something that we covered in the
Speaker:report is that today, if you're a software
Speaker:company, I mean, I don't want to say
Speaker:you're in trouble, but you have to find
Speaker:solutions to either secure and show that you have quality data
Speaker:input, for instance, and you have access to a major
Speaker:database of data that cannot be found anywhere
Speaker:or hardly found anywhere, or you also provide the
Speaker:hardware. But if you're just a software company today,
Speaker:I mean, a 20 year old or a 25
Speaker:year old could come in and just build pretty much the same thing
Speaker:and the same UI that you have
Speaker:for your client at a much cheaper
Speaker:price. And that's another thing is also the cost of developing
Speaker:new products is dramatically decreasing and the
Speaker:cost of introducing these new products to market is also
Speaker:dramatically increasing. Like before, we used to say that as
Speaker:long as you have a high quality product or like a highly
Speaker:developed technology, for instance, then that was one of the major
Speaker:keys to success. But today developing that technology
Speaker:doesn't mean much anymore. It can be developed
Speaker:very rapidly, very quickly compared to a couple years ago.
Speaker:And the ramifications it has is enormous
Speaker:because not only does it decrease the cost of
Speaker:developing those products, but it also doesn't justify enormous
Speaker:funding rounds. It doesn't justify all the things that we've
Speaker:seen over the years. And it will have implications and
Speaker:it will change the space in a way that we haven't seen yet.
Speaker:And that applies to any industry. It's not just we're talking about agriculture and
Speaker:precision ag here, but it applies to every single industry.
Speaker:Yeah, and I think that the fact that you saw that in 2025 as something
Speaker:that was on the horizon and already affecting some of the companies in the report,
Speaker:that's only going to get exponentially more exposed
Speaker:in 20. I mean, it's already, I'm seeing it already in 2026, even internally,
Speaker:some of the tools that we're testing out and using, and I think you've even
Speaker:experienced the power of what you can do with some of these tools like code
Speaker:and agent. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's insane. And that's what changed. I
Speaker:mean, in 2025, people used AI for very basic
Speaker:stuff, mainly content creation and things like this.
Speaker:But now you can use AI to actually develop products, new products,
Speaker:or enhance the current products you have. And
Speaker:yeah, it will lead to a lot of changes in both the way we
Speaker:measure success as well. I mean, we, we've mentioned the creation of this
Speaker:new metric is just an example of a metric that we could use,
Speaker:but compute cost per acre for instance, could be a new metric that
Speaker:we see. And major KPIs
Speaker:that you would find in a pitch deck, for instance, may include token
Speaker:usage, for instance. And some of the funding rounds actually
Speaker:will fund token usage in the future. And when we say in the future, we're
Speaker:not talking about 10, 20 years time, we're talking about the within
Speaker:by 2030. So it will
Speaker:certainly unlock new opportunities for a lot of people,
Speaker:but also it will unlock new challenges that the industry will have
Speaker:to face. Yeah, the comment about token uses is interesting because I read an
Speaker:email today from a newsletter I follow on AI and because all the
Speaker:workforce is getting reduced, greatly reduced, you
Speaker:see companies cutting like 50% of the workforce. Now what they're talking
Speaker:about is maybe they're going to have to, to make up for the revenue, governments
Speaker:are going to have to tax the AI and tax token
Speaker:usage because where else is it going to come from? Because if the tokens are
Speaker:doing the work now, they got to find a way to make up that revenue.
Speaker:Yeah, I mean, it just shows like the ramifications it has.
Speaker:So I just want to dive a little bit deep into what you found specifically
Speaker:around patents in China. They filed 78% of the patents, but they were only
Speaker:granted 1.4%. So I'm curious what that
Speaker:finding changed about how you think about the competitive
Speaker:threat in that sector and what that means and how we should be viewing
Speaker:it in the West. Yeah, I mean, so China has an
Speaker:interesting model. It has pretty much this patent
Speaker:creation engine driven by some of its universities. There are
Speaker:high quality universities, don't get me wrong. It's just the process
Speaker:is much longer because they flow essentially the patent
Speaker:offices with so many patents. Yeah, so there is also this
Speaker:preconception that a lot of the
Speaker:patents that come from China are just
Speaker:useless, for lack of a better word.
Speaker:Obviously we know like there's been a lot of infringements over the years.
Speaker:It's not something new. So there's also this part, there's also
Speaker:the part that it takes just longer for patent offices to
Speaker:review the patents and to award them compared to
Speaker:other nations or other countries.
Speaker:But in general they do have this patent creation engine
Speaker:where they just want to secure this particular technology worldwide,
Speaker:which is a model that's not adopted or that's not
Speaker:taken in the west or at least in Western countries.
Speaker:I don't think it's a model to follow per se, But
Speaker:a model that's interesting to follow is that usually the innovation
Speaker:comes from universities and then it's adopted by Companies,
Speaker:which is kind of the opposite in the west, where the
Speaker:innovation comes from companies and also certain times from
Speaker:universities. But usually it's companies that do the bulk of
Speaker:the innovation that's across sectors, again, whereas in China,
Speaker:it's the opposite. So that's an interesting model. Does
Speaker:it work? Well, there's a lot of Chinese
Speaker:companies out there. I mean, you look at drone companies, for instance,
Speaker:they're pretty much number one. You look at spare
Speaker:parts as well, even from companies or
Speaker:large OEMs in Europe or in the US like John
Speaker:Deere and Macy Ferguson and so on. A lot a
Speaker:bulk of their components are just manufactured in China
Speaker:today. Even if there is some of the supply chain
Speaker:that's still based in the US it still is the case that all
Speaker:of these spare parts come from China. So they do have this tech, they do
Speaker:have this knowledge, like the fact that people talk a lot about
Speaker:China as this hub for innovation and so on, which
Speaker:isn't really the case. It is an important
Speaker:hub, that's for sure. But
Speaker:to a lesser extent, if you look at the Netherlands, for instance, Israel,
Speaker:the U.S. i think there are bigger hubs. And even
Speaker:India, I mean, not a lot of people are talking about India, not a lot
Speaker:of people are talking about Japan, Korea. These are bigger hubs
Speaker:with technologies that, once they apply for
Speaker:patents, are actually technologies that are patentable as well.
Speaker:People are looking a lot at China, and it's not something that I'm refuting.
Speaker:I'm not saying that China isn't one of the hubs in
Speaker:agriculture, especially in the technology part. But there
Speaker:are other countries, you know, I mean, we could name a few like
Speaker:Korea, Japan, in the region, India, Israel,
Speaker:Netherlands, U.S. obviously, Canada, that
Speaker:in my opinion, produce patents. And once they file
Speaker:patents, these are technologies that are patentable
Speaker:much easier than in China. And it's often countries that are
Speaker:overlooked. I mean, we talk a lot about Korea, we talk a lot about.
Speaker:Well, we don't talk enough about Korea. We don't talk enough
Speaker:about Japan and India especially. But these are
Speaker:markets where there are innovations. There are innovations that are just going under the
Speaker:radar, but there are innovations nonetheless. So one of the
Speaker:signals that you found is that companies like Franca, Amica and Climate Corporation
Speaker:had stopped filing patents, and that proved to be a signal
Speaker:to something that was going to happen afterwards. Can you talk a little bit about
Speaker:that? A lot of times it's hard to track
Speaker:what companies are really doing, because again, when you're a private company,
Speaker:you don't have to provide updates publicly. You're not a publicly
Speaker:traded company. But one of the things that's
Speaker:interesting is to follow trends and inputs. And that
Speaker:applies to patents as it applies to activity on social media. For
Speaker:instance, if you have a company that for a certain
Speaker:period of time continuously applies for patents and there is
Speaker:this sort of patent activity of them just
Speaker:continuously applying and applying, applying and being granted or
Speaker:redoing these patent applications and so on, and then all of a
Speaker:sudden there's nothing for three, four years. Yeah.
Speaker:Then that's a signal for things that may have
Speaker:happened. It doesn't mean that they went bankrupt, it doesn't mean that nothing's happening. It
Speaker:doesn't mean that they're out of business. It may mean that they were
Speaker:acquired, or it may mean that they just have their technology,
Speaker:they're currently on a commercialization process, but it's definitely
Speaker:one signal to follow. The same way that if you have
Speaker:a company that continuously posts on social media
Speaker:and all of a sudden they don't post for a month or two,
Speaker:that can mean that something's happening. What that is, I guess
Speaker:the million dollar question. But it's one signal
Speaker:amongst many others. Yeah, it's important to be able to track it
Speaker:and obviously separate out the signal from the noise. But I thought that
Speaker:was interesting. And then the other observation was
Speaker:Taylor Farms acquiring Farmwise's autonomous weeding
Speaker:business. So that's a food company buying robotics. And
Speaker:do you see more of that happening or is that a sign of just
Speaker:consolidation? So, yeah, that's something that we've seen actually in
Speaker:the conversation with Blake Kroger, who's a partner at
Speaker:Verdant Partners. I mean, we've been through two years,
Speaker:well, two, maybe three years, depending on the segment of
Speaker:distress deals. And like distress companies in general going
Speaker:through bankruptcies, funding droughts, also
Speaker:just clients not being able to pay them, and so on and so
Speaker:forth. And so you got these distress deals available for
Speaker:pennies on the dollars. Pretty much, yeah. And so all these companies,
Speaker:whether it's an oem, whether it's a food company, it makes sense
Speaker:because it's innovation that's pretty much free of charge.
Speaker:Especially if you compare it to, if they were to innovate in house, how much
Speaker:it would cost them. We all know how slow a corporate
Speaker:can be and how more expensive it can also become.
Speaker:And so for that reason, it makes sense for a food company to invest in
Speaker:new technologies. And we're seeing that as well. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker:food companies that have corporate venture capital, arms
Speaker:that would invest in new startups and new
Speaker:solutions to implement within their operation. So it's not
Speaker:surprising and I think that we're going to see more and more of these as
Speaker:more distress deals arise. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker:And then there's this idea of the reverse acquisition where a tech
Speaker:company with capital buys an agronomy services firm with,
Speaker:you know, 500 plus former relationships. Is this something we're going
Speaker:to see more of companies doing this at scale? So that's the reason
Speaker:why I also said at the very beginning that AI
Speaker:is one of the most. The impact of AI is one of the most
Speaker:starking findings in this report is
Speaker:that again today the cost of developing a technology
Speaker:is relatively close to
Speaker:zero, where it hasn't at least been dramatically decreased.
Speaker:Especially if you're talking about software coding, things like this, if you're
Speaker:manufacturing equipments, obviously it's not going to be replaced like that. But
Speaker:if you have a software component to it, if you have some
Speaker:form of software, the cost of developing that has been
Speaker:dramatically decreased and will dramatically decrease in the future.
Speaker:And so today, if you're an investor and you're
Speaker:investing a company, two years ago you
Speaker:would say, okay, do they have a technology? Is it unique?
Speaker:Yeah, okay, cool, I'm going to back that
Speaker:tomorrow. How quickly can you replicate a
Speaker:software In a week or a weekend maybe Even if
Speaker:you have the good. The good subscription?
Speaker:Yeah, a good subscription and enough Red Bull, I think you could.
Speaker:I mean it is possible. Like it's not like something out of the blue
Speaker:or so. No, it is possible. It's a poss. So
Speaker:today it's not a differentiator anymore to have like this fancy technology
Speaker:that you can create or this fancy AI or whatever it may
Speaker:be. What's the differentiator is. Yes, if you
Speaker:control the data, if you have that database, if you have the
Speaker:hardware, and more importantly the distribution. And that's why
Speaker:in other industries what we're seeing is that a lot of companies and big
Speaker:corps are acquiring media companies
Speaker:increasingly. I mean, we've seen the OpenAI deal, for instance,
Speaker:with that newsletter. I forgot the name. Yeah, because the number one
Speaker:differentiator now is just distribution and being able to distribute
Speaker:that solution and that product across. So it makes sense.
Speaker:And there's a ton of what we call boring
Speaker:businesses of
Speaker:dealerships, dealer networks and so on, where it's a 60
Speaker:year old or 70 year old that's been doing this for the past
Speaker:50 years that has this network and God knows how important
Speaker:network is with Farmers. Yeah,
Speaker:yeah. It's an opportunity for him. It's a boring business. You're probably going to
Speaker:acquire that at a discount because.
Speaker:Yeah, it's just going to be profit EBITDA times a
Speaker:multiple. That's it. That's something that we also covered with Blake
Speaker:and it will become a differentiator as well. So we expect
Speaker:a lot of new acquisitions over the next 12 to
Speaker:24 months. Months where it's going to be just acquiring
Speaker:at least a stake in some of these dealership networks
Speaker:and these quote unquote boring businesses. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:They're acquiring the reach as well because like you said, this
Speaker:ability that was previously the differentiator, which was the
Speaker:software is like non existent now. Yeah. I wonder
Speaker:if you're seeing any signals or
Speaker:anything from the news about software. Only pure play
Speaker:companies in the ag space because if they don't
Speaker:innovate, someone's going to innovate for them and put them out of business pretty
Speaker:quickly. Yeah. And that's why we're seeing a lot of. Well, we're not
Speaker:seeing a lot of bankruptcies, but we have seen quite a bit of
Speaker:bankruptcies relating to software companies. We're definitely seeing
Speaker:a lot of wave of people getting let go, fired
Speaker:or staff reduction, restructuration. We're also
Speaker:seeing mergers. So software company with a hardware company, for
Speaker:instance, which makes sense. But today. Yeah,
Speaker:I don't think I've included that in the report. But we may see, for
Speaker:instance in the future businesses arise where it
Speaker:would be kind of software development as a service where you
Speaker:would have just one guy or maybe a team of like three,
Speaker:four people go to growers and so on
Speaker:and tell them like, hey, I can build the software for you with an AI
Speaker:agent and with all of that I just need access to the
Speaker:APIs of all the hardware that you use. So obviously it's
Speaker:granted that the API exists in the first place.
Speaker:Granted the farmer also has access to Internet, which is
Speaker:not everywhere. But the advantage is
Speaker:that that grower would have access to its own software, would be able to control
Speaker:their data. No one will be able to control that.
Speaker:And the risk of like a startup
Speaker:going bankrupt and going out and like losing access to the software and
Speaker:so on disappears as well because then the software is the ownership of the
Speaker:grow. Yeah. So the question now becomes
Speaker:one, do growers want to get in the hustle of having
Speaker:to find someone to build that and so on and so forth.
Speaker:For me it's a possibility. We've seen a lot of brokerage business
Speaker:While going out of business because growers wanted to go directly with
Speaker:the fastest solution. So that can happen.
Speaker:And another thing is also it depends on the scale.
Speaker:I don't see small farmers being
Speaker:too interested in that. Even if for smaller
Speaker:farmers, they could have access to the same software, but at a
Speaker:discount at a cheaper price. So they may adopt
Speaker:software is more than they do today. Now, the advantage that software
Speaker:companies have is that they can see what's happening elsewhere,
Speaker:because ag in general is slow and it takes a little bit
Speaker:of time. But here we have this
Speaker:sort of trifecta. We're even more than a trifecta, but we have
Speaker:all these externalities like increased
Speaker:fertilizer prices, increased input prices, increased equipment
Speaker:prices, stress around prices of corn,
Speaker:wheat and so on. Prices stress around
Speaker:capital costs as well, like financing and so on.
Speaker:Usually whenever you have these sorts of events, the
Speaker:first thing people do is that they try to cut costs because if they increase
Speaker:revenue, the cost will increase as well. So it makes no sense for
Speaker:them to invest in something that could increase their
Speaker:revenue. And so if replacing the
Speaker:software, the software company they were using by their own software reduces the
Speaker:cost and offers the guarantees, I could see that happening
Speaker:quite fast and quite quickly. You mentioned the
Speaker:compute cost per acre as a new metric. Talk a little bit
Speaker:about how you created that and what a healthy versus
Speaker:unhealthy number looks like. So this is just like me
Speaker:thinking and imagining like some
Speaker:metrics that could be relevant. So again, it's not based
Speaker:out of interviews or things like this, but it's more based off what
Speaker:we're seeing outside of aggressive, and we're seeing token usage as a
Speaker:metric today. And so a compute cost
Speaker:per acre would probably be something around like,
Speaker:yeah, token usage and the amounts of tokens your software is using
Speaker:or your AI solution is using per acre.
Speaker:And that could become. Because token usage essentially implies a cost, there
Speaker:is a cost as you consume tokens. And so that could
Speaker:become a metric where people will look at,
Speaker:well, you're using, I don't know, I'm just going to invent numbers like, I
Speaker:don't know, $10 an acre, for instance, of tokens,
Speaker:while your competitor is using $5 an acre per.
Speaker:Yeah, $5 of tokens per acre. So your competitors are just more
Speaker:efficient at doing the same tasks.
Speaker:So it's maybe one of the metrics that we're going to
Speaker:see. I don't know if it's going to be named compute cost per
Speaker:acre. I would be happy if I found a name like this that's for
Speaker:sure. Probably going to trademark it as well. No, I'm kidding. But it's
Speaker:probably some sort of metric that we're going to see is around
Speaker:token usage. Yeah, I think it's a function of how it's being
Speaker:used because obviously you could, we've seen in the AI world how you could
Speaker:burn hundreds of thousands of tokens and not build anything meaningful.
Speaker:So. But, but I think something, I think you're, you're onto
Speaker:something there. And I think it provides some insight
Speaker:into, you know, maybe it's a metric of
Speaker:AI staff, you know. You know, because it's.
Speaker:Typically headcount is used to be just how many people you have working and
Speaker:now they're going to have to figure out what the AI headcount is and
Speaker:how efficient you're being with it and is it
Speaker:driving revenue and, you know. Yeah. Is it driving down your, your
Speaker:cost? And so there's some sort of math in there related to AI
Speaker:headcount and how people are building autonomous companies where
Speaker:an AI chief of staff is talking. You know, this is something that I've been,
Speaker:you know, piloting internally as well, so it's
Speaker:still early days, but I think it's an interesting way and especially for investors
Speaker:who want some insight into what's happening with these companies and how they're adopting these
Speaker:technologies and if they're on the leading
Speaker:edge or, you know, they're falling behind, it's.
Speaker:I'm sure that's something an investor would want to know as well. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker:it's. Well, it's something that we said at the beginning is like, I, I think
Speaker:that at some point in pitch decks, we're going to see like, yeah, use of
Speaker:funds is going to be. Yeah, half of it is going to be. Is going
Speaker:to go to token usage. And that goes back to a comment of.
Speaker:And what triggered that thought was a comment by the CEO of
Speaker:Nvidia around some of his key
Speaker:engineers consuming less than $250,000 of
Speaker:tokens a year. I believe I may be mistaken on
Speaker:the exact number, but I think it was right around that being like,
Speaker:yeah, they would, they would need to be worried about their position. And I
Speaker:think that today. Yeah, that would be. That, that, that is pretty much
Speaker:token usage equals product development or product usage. So,
Speaker:yeah, I think it would, it might have been Nvidia or another company that was
Speaker:actually tracking employee token usage and there's like,
Speaker:quotas they have to meet, so putting a lot of pressure on employees. But
Speaker:if you're in a Tech company. I mean it's probably expected because, because you
Speaker:can see the savings. I mean it's, it's really night and day and
Speaker:when you start cutting down what's a $200
Speaker:a month, you know, OpenAI expense as opposed
Speaker:to a six figure salary, like it's, it's nothing. Right. So it's like. Yeah, and
Speaker:it can work 24, 7 as well. So yeah, or around the clock.
Speaker:But yeah, transporting that to farmers and how farmers
Speaker:are going to measure their metrics, I think that's going to be,
Speaker:probably going to be there in terms of the metrics that they're going to use
Speaker:because token usage I don't think is something that
Speaker:you can include in a subscription, especially if it's at scale.
Speaker:And we see that with all the AI companies is that
Speaker:you would pay for the amount of tokens that you use.
Speaker:And especially if you're talking about large scale growers with complex tasks
Speaker:and so on. I do see that as one
Speaker:metric to measure the efficacy of your, of your solution.
Speaker:I want to talk a little bit about the funding to M and A pipeline
Speaker:and right now from what I can see in the report, I'm like
Speaker:about a 36 month lag. So companies that raised a Series B, for example, in
Speaker:2021 or 22 eventually became acquisition targets in
Speaker:2024 and 2025. So I
Speaker:know you don't have access to that crystal ball, but you know, using
Speaker:that same logic, did any companies stand out or is it still too early
Speaker:to tell like who could be potential acquisition targets? Well,
Speaker:like we said with the conversation with Blake, is that
Speaker:any company that has some form of good
Speaker:technology, so good, again, depends on the vertical that you're
Speaker:involved in, depends how many clients you have and so
Speaker:on. Yeah. But today
Speaker:the market is such that if you're a large
Speaker:OEM or a large company, it makes sense to acquire
Speaker:businesses for pennies on the dollars because these
Speaker:businesses will find it hard to raise funds anyways.
Speaker:And so offer and exit is sometimes just the only solution
Speaker:they have. So I think that there's this part, but in terms
Speaker:of acquisition targets, yeah, as long as
Speaker:you have a technology that's being used essentially by clients
Speaker:and with a good customer base and so on,
Speaker:I think that is something that's quote unquote, relatively
Speaker:easy to sell or to get acquired.
Speaker:Always has been. It's just, it depends also on the
Speaker:monetary policies as well from central banks. I mean, we know that interest
Speaker:rates have an impact both on funding availability
Speaker:and also on mergers and Acquisitions. So
Speaker:yeah, yeah, that's something that was interesting in your conversation with
Speaker:Blake was also him stressing that they want companies
Speaker:to be profitable before they engage again. That's what we're
Speaker:seeing and that's what I think is going to accelerate as well. From
Speaker:2018, I would say to 2021,
Speaker:2022, there was this big period where companies
Speaker:would have a relatively easy
Speaker:access to funding and large funding amounts. We've seen
Speaker:like all these hundred million dollar deals and $200 million there and
Speaker:so on. Most of them went bankrupt, by the way, but
Speaker:funding was available. But now
Speaker:funding is less available. It's still available for the right businesses. As
Speaker:long as you have, you are profitable. But tomorrow,
Speaker:again, what are you going to justify a hundred million dollar
Speaker:deal? I mean you cannot justify $100 million funding round
Speaker:if it's just developing a product. There has to be either
Speaker:an infrastructure component to it. So meaning acquiring
Speaker:like assembly line or things like this, like
Speaker:actual production lines essentially of equipment.
Speaker:Otherwise it's just token usage. So what are you going to invest in like
Speaker:sales, marketing? A hundred million dollars worth of sales
Speaker:and marketing. That's, that's quite a lot. So it's going to be hard. I think
Speaker:it's going to be harder and harder. I think the amounts of funding, like the
Speaker:total amounts per round is going to decrease in the next
Speaker:few years. But I also think that
Speaker:the lag between rounds, which is
Speaker:usually 18 to 24 months between each series and
Speaker:seeds and so on. So between a seed to a series
Speaker:A to a series B, I also think these amounts of months
Speaker:is going to decrease and we're probably going to see like within a year a
Speaker:company going from pre seed C to series A, for
Speaker:instance, and even maybe a series B. Just because
Speaker:the technology development lag which
Speaker:historically existed is probably either going to decrease dramatically
Speaker:or disappear depending on the solution you're offering. And
Speaker:then the only reason, again as I said, the only reason why you would raise
Speaker:a fund or raise money is to either fund
Speaker:token usage, which can be justified, but
Speaker:more importantly is going to be sales and marketing. That's the only thing that's going
Speaker:to make you survive. And that's going to be the only differentiator in this
Speaker:new market that we're seeing. The other trend is
Speaker:the safe idea of hyperscalers. So arable partnering with Google and
Speaker:Amazon and CNH integrating Starlink. You see that
Speaker:also as a trend. There's always been some interest
Speaker:from larger companies outside of ag. They always
Speaker:have some solutions for the Ag industry. So I don't think it's
Speaker:something that is abnormal, per se.
Speaker:So what's interesting is that since the 70s up
Speaker:to the 2000s, we've seen a lot of automobile companies
Speaker:and large automobile groups getting out of agriculture.
Speaker:And now recently we're seeing them getting back into agriculture.
Speaker:So there is the example of Yamaha, for instance, the Japanese company,
Speaker:acquiring a robotics firm and settling their
Speaker:Yamaha agriculture division. We're seeing also
Speaker:Caterpillar, for instance, acquiring, well, what is remaining of
Speaker:Monarch Tractors, which is a company that recently went bankrupt
Speaker:or at least seize their operations. So we're seeing more and more
Speaker:of these deals and there are other auto manufacturers that
Speaker:are interested in seeing ag as a potential target,
Speaker:which is an interesting trend. It's not something that I would have expected,
Speaker:but let's see. To be confirmed, I would say. So as we wrap
Speaker:up, if you had to pick a trend, a
Speaker:signal trend from this report that is going to define
Speaker:precision ag for the rest of this year and
Speaker:into 2027, is there anything that stands out for you?
Speaker:Well, whilst we were writing this report, something happened
Speaker:called war. And I'm well placed to talk
Speaker:about it because I live in Dubai. We've seen
Speaker:some of the effects of it. And again, this is something that is moving
Speaker:extremely rapidly. I mean, every day we got conflating reports
Speaker:about a potential deal and then no deal, and then a deal and then no
Speaker:deal. By the time this is published, things would have
Speaker:dramatically changed for the better. Or even as of today. I mean,
Speaker:we're recording this in mid April. Yeah. And apparently there is an article
Speaker:saying that the Strait of Hormuz is now
Speaker:going to be open. So. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker:But by the time this is published, things could grow
Speaker:hopefully better, but it could also go
Speaker:dramatically worse as well. So things can change. But I think that
Speaker:that will define the year in precision act, because
Speaker:that's something that we've seen with the Russia, Ukrainian war.
Speaker:Yeah. There's always this concept with any commodity
Speaker:of the Goldilocks Zone. So people probably don't. For those who
Speaker:are not familiar with the Goldilocks Zone is there is a price
Speaker:range for anything you buy where people are happy.
Speaker:Both the supplier, the clients, everyone's kind of happy with it.
Speaker:Anything below that, then the supplier
Speaker:of that commodity is not happy because he's not making any
Speaker:money. Anything above that, obviously the
Speaker:supplier could make some money in the very
Speaker:short term, but the effects it has on the supply chain
Speaker:is such that it could affect that. It could affect
Speaker:it as well. So no one's really happy with it. It's kind
Speaker:of like an oil and gas where you have this goldilocks zone between 60 to
Speaker:$90 a barrel, where everyone's kind of happy.
Speaker:Well, here what we're seeing is the impact it has on fertilizer
Speaker:prices, whether it's urea, whether it's nitrogen as well.
Speaker:And that people may wonder, why am I talking about fertilizer? Well,
Speaker:that has an impact on precision ag adoption.
Speaker:Slight increase or say that we are within the Goldilocks zone,
Speaker:the higher end of Goldilocks zones. It has a positive
Speaker:impact on precision ag, namely on everything that would save
Speaker:money on input. That has a positive impact. If it goes
Speaker:way beyond that, which is currently the case. I mean, we're talking about
Speaker:seven or six hundred dollars a ton
Speaker:for urea, for instance, which again, by the
Speaker:time this is published, can dramatically increase or decrease. So again,
Speaker:that disclaimer should be repeated once
Speaker:every two minutes, I think. Yeah, yeah. Because things can change.
Speaker:But that has an impact because the farmer now,
Speaker:well, he's not going to sell the corn or so on that he's
Speaker:going to, that he produces with that fertilizer
Speaker:with the help of that fertilizer. He's not going to sell the pro. The corn
Speaker:for that much at least. So it's going to be more expensive for
Speaker:him. If it's more expensive for him, that means that he's going to look into
Speaker:other crops. That means that it's going to just create this
Speaker:whole cycle of like, it's going to increase prices.
Speaker:And that's what we've seen in the Russia, Ukrainian war is that
Speaker:that plus the fact that the energy costs dramatically
Speaker:increased. I mean, everyone pumps gas in their cars and
Speaker:I'm sure they've seen some of the effects. It just creates inflation
Speaker:and then at some point, if it's sustained over time,
Speaker:it forces central banks to act. And usually by acting it means
Speaker:that they have to increase interest rates, which then increases
Speaker:the cost of financing new equipments.
Speaker:So then that just affects precision ag as well. Even
Speaker:though it makes sense to help reduce input cost, if you
Speaker:cannot just invest in that, then you're going to be affected
Speaker:as well. So that's why it's important and that's why I think, at least for
Speaker:this year, the outcome of this conflict and
Speaker:this war is going to affect
Speaker:pretty much everything and namely precision ag.
Speaker:But since it was, it happened whilst we were writing the report,
Speaker:we've just had the time to include a section at the
Speaker:end to talk about because in our opinion, it doesn't change
Speaker:the structural aspects of precision ag or the
Speaker:ag industry. However, it will definitely
Speaker:exponentially increase or decrease some of the
Speaker:scenarios that we've predicted for 2026,
Speaker:2028, period. Yeah, for sure. It's one of those
Speaker:things that wasn't on the on the bingo card, as they
Speaker:like to say. But then all of a sudden it is and everyone's scrambling to
Speaker:figure out the impact. Kudos again for the all the work you put into
Speaker:this report. It's very thorough, very detailed, and I think
Speaker:it's something that's needed for this space. So
Speaker:congrats again for all the work you put into it. Well, no worries.
Speaker:Thank you. So if you want to copy the report, you can
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Speaker:price. So thanks again, Sepper, for your time. I really enjoyed this deep dive
Speaker:into the report you created. Well, thank you again.