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#7 - Japa Mala Meditation: Finding Peace, Purpose, and Presence with Every Bead
Episode 714th March 2025 • JuicyMagiK On the Daily • Juicy MagiK
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Let this episode land softly in your day, right where you are. We're Mark and Maria (Juicy MagiK On the Daily) and today we’re sharing a practice that holds us close when the world gets loud: Japa meditation. It’s all about the feeling of the beads, the sound, memories tied up in repetition, and the simple joys of walking and chanting under the trees or in a quiet room (or even a cemetery, but that’s a story you’ll have to hear inside). You’ll hear family tales, sweet mishaps, loving ribbing, and what it’s like to come from a different tradition and slowly find comfort with a new, living practice. There’s room in this for everyone, whatever name or language or way brings you calm. No pressure, just presence. Find a few minutes of peace with us, maybe pick up your beads (or not, you can just listen). Thanks for stopping in. Peace, Haribol, and see you tomorrow.

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I must say I must say are you all and peace be with you

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welcome I'm Mark

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and I'm Maria and we do see magic on the daily

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thanks for coming in

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welcome and hope you're feeling well today

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and if not

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I hope that you feel better after today's podcast

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um I hope this is a little bit of a breath of fresh air

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soft warm and soothing voice in the

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in the craziness of modern the modern world

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you wanted to get me some beads today

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well yeah

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we thought that you know

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if you can

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part of our practice

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which we love to share with others is

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is Japa meditation these are really beautiful

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yeah

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I once gave these beads to my father in 2,001

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and he had them by his bedside

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and he used to pray on them

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he used to say the Lord is my Shepherd prayer

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I think it's Psalm 23

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and after he passed away I was able to

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to take them back you know

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my mom said you could take them now

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it's so nice

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I carry them with me as I did before I gave them to him

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and then literally like 20

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21 years later there they are back in my pocket

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though if I had to grab anything

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out of the house out of the house

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it's on fire it's on fire

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I would definitely probably grab my beads

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um I have an

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another set of special beads that

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a friend of mine actually made for me and

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and he made them with fishing wire

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ha ha they're so strong

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but they've been with me through thick and thin

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so thank you dear friend

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for making me those beads all those years ago

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I still have them in my bead bag

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typically uh

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a full set of beads is a hundred and eight

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first to the hundred and eight Apache beads

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and this is a 1/2 round it's fifty four

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and Japa meditation

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it engages another sense and when we're

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when we're saying and singing

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or repeating the names of god on

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in garonga or when we do the Mahamantra in kirtan

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we engage the sense of hearing and the sense of

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of the voice and the and the vibration

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uh and this really

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the nice thing about Japa

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and these Japa malabes

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is that they engage the sense of touch

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and everyone likes you know

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part of the reason that

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people have a hard time giving up addiction sometimes

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is also because of the

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there's all these rituals and habits around it

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and also sort of the

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the touching and flicking of a cigarette

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you know or so this engages the touch

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the sense of touch and I find it extremely comforting

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uh you know

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sometimes I'll be in looking around where are my beads

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you know and I wanna have them with me

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I put typically wrap them around my wrist

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or you even pick on your fingers

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and that's when I know you need your beads

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and you need my beads yeah

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they help me they've helped me immensely with

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just focusing my mind

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and putting my heart on transcendent subject matters

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and very comforting to me

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and they might be comforting to you too

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so we'll just teach that you know

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the headbeat you don't usually count on the headbeat

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usually say goronga on the headbeat

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we'll just teach you a little mantra

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another mantra that we love to chant on our beads

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it's Gopala Gobindarama Madanamohana

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these are not sectarian words

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these are these are just names of god

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that they're in a particular language

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but you can say whatever names you're attracted to

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whether in Russian or Arabic or Chinese

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or Hebrew or Aramaic Greek

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you see a lot of people around the world carrying beads

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some call it ziccar and others call it the Rosemary

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oh not the Rosemary

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the rosary ha ha ha

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although we love Rosemary

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we picked some wild Rosemary

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oh that's right

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that's right yeah

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we picked some wild Rosemary the other day

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we made some really nice Rosemary potatoes

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but um yeah

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those are good yeah

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I you know

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coming from a a practice of not moving

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being silent

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totally absorbed in yourself

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for me that that was a little bit strange

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so it took me a couple months actually

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um and I

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I had this thank you for

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that was a friend in from Italy

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I I left my beads at her house

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and she sent the beads in a little bead bag

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so sweet that was so sweet

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that was actually

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you should just take care of your beads

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keep them in a nice place

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you're like a good friend

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you know and she

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she was so kind that she she knew that those beads

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those are also beads that I had given to my father

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yeah

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and then they came back to me and I had forgotten them

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yes and I

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although I was like okay

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maybe you can keep them

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she knew that they were very special to me

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and she so kindly offered to send them back to me

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she sent them in the mail

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but she put them in a little bead bag

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yeah so I said Maria

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you take them and use them please

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yeah and I

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I couldn't use them

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because I'm coming from a meditation practice

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where you don't move

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the best practice is when you lose

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you lose the

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you know the

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the the feeling of your body

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you're somewhere else

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you merge with something bigger that you can't grasp

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the white light yeah

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yeah the void drama

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Joti or we'll talk about that yeah

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there's lots to talk about

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so I kept you know

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merging with something and I didn't wanna move

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so always when I moved or something was itching

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and I gave in into that I got out of that state

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so it was uh it was a bad thing to move for me and uh

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you know no sound that

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be completely quiet

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because every sound gets you out of the state

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you try that in the modern world

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if you have a baby in the house or yeah

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a roommate but that was my

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that was my preferred practice

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you know

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no movement it was mine too

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for a long time no style

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I went through that process

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yeah no nothing

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you just nothing

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I spent several years at the pastor centre

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so yeah

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so so when Mark gave me these beads I

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I I

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I just couldn't use them

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so I was carrying them with me in my

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in my bag or in my you know

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and just and I just kept giving my hand inside

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and playing with them

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so I didn't sand on them for a couple months

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many months cause I just couldn't

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you know

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this feeling of moving and getting into meditation

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I had so many blockages from that

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and I just had this restrictions

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no no

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no that's not the way

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but slowly

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it's getting

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it's getting addicted to the feeling of the beach

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and now I wake the last two nights

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I woke up at exactly 4:00

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beautiful time if you wake up at 4:00am

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I know don't get stressed

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pick up your beads and watch

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it was exactly 4:00 twice now

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and I got up and I got into the living room

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and I just laid down and started chanting on my beans

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so um

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it could be that you have a lot of restrictions and

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you know barriers to do something like that

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because of many reasons

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I won't dive into that right now

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it's a very personal matter

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but just give it a try and see how it feels

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you might be surprised just like I was yeah

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and I I've been practicing for over 25 years now and

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and it's um

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it's always fresh it always feels great

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you know every time I sit down

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you know if it's really noisy outside

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I can plug one ear

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and just really absorb myself in the sound

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but also in the feeling of my beads

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you know sometimes I'm furiously wiggling them

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other times I'm just touching them lightly

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I find if I need to slow down

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I just sort of really slow on rolling them

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there's no hard and fast rules

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but we'll just teach you I'll just do

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you know if you can pick up a set of beads

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there's lots of places in local

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you know

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if you go down to a local place that sells crystals

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you know incense and things like that

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you usually can find beads oh oh

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you remember those beads that I got

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um I was in Glastonbury

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and I went into the store

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and they had this gorgeous beads

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you know made out of crystals

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ha ha

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you know and all this

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and I put them around my wrist

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because it looked so nice

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but they're very uncomfortable to chant on

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yeah and you always

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like they might break and it was really weird

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so I what did I say to you

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I said one of the best beads

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the ones you use yeah

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the ones you use they're not meant for

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for fashion decoration decoration

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although they they

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you know I

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I just love

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I feel like I always have a friend coming with me

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and I do in the in the transcendent sound

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but also in the beats

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so I always keep them in 1/2 set in my pocket

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uh I never feel like I'm bored or have wasted time

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if I'm online somewhere or walking somewhere

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some people go out every morning and walk their dogs

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faithfully and I

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I try to walk my beats faithfully

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and do you remember

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when we were parking at these cemeteries

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and we were traveling yeah

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yeah yeah

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yeah and Mike got up when the sun rose

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I I'm not good at getting up early

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but he was just walking through the cemetery

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in the morning when the sun rose

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and just walking his beads

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and it was so nice to watch

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and it's so nice and quiet

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oh and cemeteries actually can be

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most cemeteries are public

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we found that they're great to park near

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because there's usually a water

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there's water there for the flowers

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that people put on the gravesides

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and so if you're respectful and it's public

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cemeteries can be fantastically beautiful places

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quiet places to take your beads for a walk

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and also you're out in nature in the fresh air and uh

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you know um

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I've spent a lot of time in cemeteries in my lifetime

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and I used to work in funeral

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and cemetery for a period of time too

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so it's also

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it's humbling and sobering to just be reminded that

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yeah one day all of this will be gone

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and it's good to take stock of our life

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and if you can do that even on a daily basis

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it's great

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but if you can find a nice place to walk your beads

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in the morning even at night

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we sometimes go for jappa walks

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we'll just walk outside together

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but we'll be chatting on our beads

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and so we'll just I'll just quickly

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you know the

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the mantra we say on the head bead

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you kind of go through the whole thing

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and then instead of jumping over the head bead

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you turn it around and just start again

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on the on the

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the bead beside the head bead

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and so I'll just demonstrate Goranga Goppa

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Govinda Rama Madana Mohana

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and then move to the next beat

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go Palla go Vinderrama Madana Mohana

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and we can go a little faster

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go Palla go Vinderrama Madana Mohana go Palla

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go Vinderrama Madana Mohana copala

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govinda Rama madana mohana copala

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govinda Rama madana mohana copala govinda Rama

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madana mohana so copala

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govinda Rama madana mohana

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can you translate that

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these are

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these are all different names of God

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and there's no hard and fast rules

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god there's only one supreme being

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and as enumerated in scripture

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there's as innumerable names

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too many names to count

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in every scripture in the world I've

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I've read that God's names are to be praised

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in the Bible it says from the sun up to the sun down

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the lord's name is to be praised in

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I've seen I've read in

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in Arabic you know

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they have the hundred

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the 99 most beautiful names of Allah

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Alahim and

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and so many so many different

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languages for every language

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there's a name or names of

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that refer to the Supreme Person

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Watan Tanka

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in many native groups refer to the Great Spirit or

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I've heard so many different names

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and these ones are the ones that I find most attractive

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they were certainly taught to me

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and there's no hard and fast rules

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if you if you like a

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a different what are other ones

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oh we

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we also chant the Maha mantra

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Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna

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Krishna Harry

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Harry Rama Harry

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Rama Rama

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Rama Harry Harry

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this means it's a

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it's a prayer which means Lord

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oh Lord

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oh energy of the Lord

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please engage me in loving service to you

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and Krishna means a person who's all attractive

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who attracts all

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and haray refers to the feminine aspect of God

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Radha and then Rama

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means he who gives spiritual bliss

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to those engaged in loving service to him

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it's of course

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it's a very blissful activity to render loving service

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and in this age of quarrel chaos confusion

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it's said that this is the

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prime benediction for humanity at large

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so grab your beads we'll do some more japa

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throughout the

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throughout the days and years and decades

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can you say the one with merari

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just gonna yeah yeah

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I'm thinking of the one that you're thinking of

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it's beautiful

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Madana Mohana Murari he who attracts 1,000 cupids

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or the conqueror of Cupid

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is so beautiful that even Cupid is attracted to him

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Madana Mohana Murari Madana Mohana Murari

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just three words

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3 names yeah

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absolutely there's no hard and fast rules

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you can I really like the word Morari so much

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yeah you might find that there are certain names of god

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or qualities of god

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or descriptions of god that you're really attracted to

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and that's a great um

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that's great indicator don't be shy

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yeah dive in

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I didn't wanna say my name in India

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so when somebody asked me what's your name

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I said Murari dasi das servant of

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you know

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servant of Murari

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yeah so I really like the merari one

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we we encourage you to you know

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when we we get together with people

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we often have a lot of

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I buy beads and then give them out I

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love giving out beads and giving out incense

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and

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we offer sometimes these lovely candies

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and give them out and it's really nice

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it's a nice way to even at a very short period of time

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give something that's really

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of great value and can really help people to

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engage in

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so we went a little over time today

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yeah but I think it's important because uh

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this is something you can do anywhere

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anytime

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you can't do impersonal meditation

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where you need a quiet stark

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not that you can't move spot

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that's that's something you

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you can only do in a really safe place

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and then we found it in the comfort of beads yeah

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so you can do anywhere so

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when we drive in the car and we're waiting somewhere

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or when we just go for walks

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we have it in our hands and sometimes

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I mean mostly in the last months I didn't chant

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I just played with them get got familiar with them

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remembered them ha ha yeah

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they start to become like an old friend

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you always wanna have them with you

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I know so it takes a while it really took me many

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many months to get close to them again

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and sometimes we lean into

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and sometimes we lean away from our practices

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and that's yeah

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we're not perfect and we're not uh

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you know

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we still have we're still practicing so it's so lovely

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it's it's a car it's

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there's no

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end to the different levels of consciousness one can

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yeah be in I'm sorry

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going all the time but for me

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this is really important

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because it was a change of mind that took many

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many months

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but I think many

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many people who who come from the impersonal

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silent meditation yeah

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um we're just in the same situation tomorrow

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remind me remind me to say the story about Bo Gaia and

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and people go shh

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you know

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people shushing people cause it said please be quiet

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you know and everyone was shuffling

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and there's hundreds of thousands of pilgrims

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and tell a story tomorrow yeah

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tomorrow tomorrow

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so peace be with you

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peace be with you and I must stay in Haribol

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thanks for tuning in to Juicy Magic on the daily

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I'm Mark and Maria and we thank you for your time

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energy and being

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and look forward to hanging out with you tomorrow

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I go bye

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yeah so do we get 3 in 3

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I didn't press stop yet

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do we get do we record three though

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yes

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you little shits

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it's not stopping

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