Time to talk about what it's like to live with someone living with cancer.

This episode, Pen chats to her good friend, the chef, food writer and brilliant baker, Kirsten 'KJ' Gilmour from KJ's Bothy Bakery in Grantown on Spey.

Telling the LUMP story has made Pen reflect that so much of her focus, when she was diagnosed, was about her and how she felt about having cancer. But what about the people around her who had to watch from the sidelines, who's lives were also being impacted? How difficult is it when you don't have cancer but it still robs you of the things you love doing and the people you love doing it with?

6 year's ago KJ's husband, Al, was suddenly diagnosed with myeloma, overnight their entire life and relationship changed. In this ep Kirsten opens up about the ups and downs of being married to someone with life-limiting diagnosis.

Lump is produced by Adventurous Audio and sponsored by The Head Gardener

It was recorded by the legends who are Dave and Johnny at The Music Shed Recording Studios

Special thanks to Incredible Feet for their inspiration and belief in the importance of LUMP and for constantly reminding us that while every cancer journey is unique, we never need to run it alone.

You'll find the written version of this episode here.