Your classroom culture is what teaches students how to behave, whether you’re the one doing the teaching or not! In this episode, we’re talking about how to intentionally shape a positive classroom culture that makes classroom management easier. We break down five practical steps and explain how social skills, positive peer pressure, and clearly reinforced expectations can help students take more ownership of how your classroom works.
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This is episode 285 of Teacher Approved.
Heidi:You're listening to Teacher Approved, the podcast helping
Heidi:educators elevate what matters and simplify the rest. I'm
Heidi:Heidi.
Emily:And I'm Emily. We're the creators behind Second Story
Emily:Window, where we give research-based and
Emily:teacher-approved strategies that make teaching less stressful and
Emily:more effective. You can check out the show notes and resources
Emily:from each episode at secondstorywindow.net.
Heidi:We're so glad you're tuning in today. Let's get to
Heidi:the show.
Emily:Hey there! Thanks for joining us today. In today's
Emily:episode, we are talking about how to shape your classroom
Emily:culture so it can boost your classroom management, and we've
Emily:got a tip for making your mornings a little easier.
Heidi:But first, let's start with a try it tomorrow, where we
Heidi:share a quick win that you can try right away. Emily, what is
Heidi:our suggestion this week?
Emily:Okay, this week look at the school calendar and get all
Emily:the upcoming school theme days or dress up days on the
Emily:calendar. Maybe even set a reminder for the day before so
Emily:that you're not scrambling in the morning.
Heidi:And also, if you need to buy anything like new pajamas
Heidi:for pajama day or a shirt in a certain color, order it now so
Heidi:that you have exactly what you need.
Emily:And if you're worried about how to look cute in the
Emily:school T-shirt you're expected to wear, go back to episode 245
Emily:where Lindsay from Fashion Fix shared a teacher-approved tip
Emily:for how to style a school shirt. She had some really great ideas.
Heidi:And if you like this idea or anything else we share here
Heidi:today, would you do us a favor and share this episode with a
Heidi:teacher friend? People trust recommendations from people they
Heidi:know. So every time you share our show, it really does help us
Heidi:out.
Emily:Okay, we are officially in September, which means a lot
Emily:of our listeners are starting school this week. And if that is
Emily:you, happy first week! We hope everything goes smoothly.
Heidi:And actually, a lot of teachers have been back in
Heidi:school for weeks already.
Emily:Yep, especially around where we are. And if that is
Emily:you, then we hope everything is continuing to go smoothly a few
Emily:weeks later.
Heidi:But wherever you land on the back to school spectrum,
Heidi:hopefully you're in a situation where you only have 16 kids in
Heidi:your class, and they're all eager, focused learners.
Emily:Yes, I really hope that's true for all of you, but more
Emily:likely, let's say there are 25 students in your classroom,
Emily:maybe 30, maybe more, and there is one of you.
Heidi:I don't like that math.
Emily:No.
Heidi:Because even if you are the most present, most connected
Heidi:teacher in the building, there is no version of the day where
Heidi:you can personally manage all of those kids all of the time. It
Heidi:is absolutely impossible.
Emily:Right. Because while you're helping one student
Emily:understand the assignment, there's two kids that are
Emily:deciding whether to stay focused or start talking. Someone just
Emily:knocked over their pencil box, and their neighbor is looking
Emily:around to see if it's okay to laugh. Another student is trying
Emily:to decide whether it's socially acceptable to ask a question
Emily:that they think might sound dumb.
Heidi:And you aren't there to personally coach students
Heidi:through every one of those decisions. You physically can't
Heidi:be, which means that for most of the day, your students are not
Heidi:being managed by you at all. They are being managed by each
Heidi:other.
Emily:Yeah, and this is a part of teaching that we don't
Emily:discuss enough. The social environment in your classroom
Emily:develops its own answers to questions like, is it cool to
Emily:try, or is it cooler to pretend that you don't care? How do we
Emily:respond when somebody is being annoying?
Heidi:Or is this a room where we help each other, or a room
Heidi:where we look out for ourselves? The answers to these questions
Heidi:aren't just individual behavior choices; they are cultural
Heidi:norms.
Emily:Classroom culture is the collection of unwritten rules
Emily:about how things work. Is this the kind of classroom where
Emily:people stay on task if the teacher has to step in the hall
Emily:for a minute, or is it the kind of class where the teacher's
Emily:absence is an excuse to run wild?
Heidi:That always bugs me about teachers on TV or in movies. You
Heidi:know, they just step into the hall for a five-minute chat
Heidi:without a second to worry about what's breaking up behind them.
Emily:One of the most unbelievable parts of Abbott
Emily:Elementary. Even though I love Abbott Elementary, but frequent
Emily:hall chats with multiple teachers. That's not, that's not
Emily:realistic, and obviously that's because those teachers are lucky
Emily:enough to have writers telling those kids what to do. But
Emily:sadly, someone forgot to hand out the script to the rest of
Emily:the kids that we have in our classrooms.
Heidi:Which is why culture matters so much. It's
Heidi:essentially the script your students follow for knowing how
Heidi:to behave from minute to minute, which makes it much more
Heidi:influential than the rules hanging on your wall.
Emily:And unlike classroom rules, culture will develop
Emily:completely organically. Which means if you don't decide to
Emily:shape your culture on purpose, you are basically letting the
Emily:loudest voices in your room do it.
Heidi:Sometimes that works out beautifully. You get two or
Heidi:three natural leaders who set a great tone, and then you can
Heidi:just ride that all year and feel like a genius.
Emily:Uh huh. But more often than not, you end up with a
Emily:culture of chatting and nonstop water bottle flipping contests.
Emily:The reason culture is such a potent tool is because of
Emily:something called social contagion. Like that back to
Emily:school cold that you're currently fighting off, behavior
Emily:also spreads.
Heidi:You have definitely experienced how this works. So
Heidi:when you are the new person at a job, you watch your coworkers to
Heidi:see where to sit at lunch or how loud conversations can be, and
Heidi:then you just copy what everyone else is doing.
Emily:Classrooms run the same way. When kindness and effort
Emily:and respect are the standard in a room, then kids absorb it and
Emily:reflect it back to each other without being asked. But it also
Emily:works in the opposite direction.
Heidi:Yeah, if eye rolling is tolerated in September, eye
Heidi:rolling is the standard by October. Kids are watching what
Heidi:you let slide far more closely than they are listening to what
Heidi:you say.
Emily:So when you're working against a student-created
Emily:culture, you spend the whole day putting out fires that the
Emily:culture started.
Heidi:But with a teacher-led culture, your students hold each
Heidi:other to the standard, and you have fewer problems to manage.
Heidi:That's because you have peer pressure on your side.
Emily:We spend a lot of time trying to protect kids from peer
Emily:pressure, but the truth is, peer pressure is going to exist
Emily:whether we acknowledge it or not.
Heidi:And that's why we definitely want to make sure
Heidi:that the pressure in our classroom is pushing everyone in
Heidi:a useful direction. Positive peer pressure makes the
Heidi:difference between students watching someone disrupt a
Heidi:lesson and joining in, and someone leaning over to whisper,
Heidi:"Dude, stop! We're trying to work."
Emily:In the first few days of school, hopefully, you scheduled
Emily:time for important community building activities. But as we
Emily:move into the school year, your work here isn't done. A positive
Emily:classroom culture requires attention, the way that
Emily:relationships do.
Heidi:But don't let that panic you. Unlike most lessons,
Heidi:teaching students how things work in your room happens in the
Heidi:little moments. When you respond calmly to a broken rule instead
Heidi:of losing your cool, you teach that mistakes are expected.
Emily:Yeah, and when you invite a student to try again if
Emily:they've spoken harshly to a classmate, you teach that
Emily:respect and relationships matter in your class.
Heidi:But if you want to be more intentional about shaping
Heidi:your classroom culture, we've boiled down the whole process to
five steps:name it, teach it, practice it, notice it, and
five steps:protect it.
Emily:All right, let's walk through the first one, which is
Emily:name it. This is an easy one to skip over because it feels so
Emily:obvious, but it's worth saying it anyway. Start by finding 10
Emily:minutes on two different days for a class discussion.
Heidi:For the first day, prepare a chart or a blank slide
Heidi:with three columns. Label one column, "I want a teacher who,"
Heidi:label the second column, "I want a classmate who," and label the
Heidi:third column, "I want a classroom that," and then invite
Heidi:students to share their ideas about how to complete those
Heidi:sentences.
Emily:And then on the second day, post a chart or slide that
Emily:says, "We are the kind of class..." Refer back to the
Emily:previous day's poster. If we want to have classmates and a
Emily:teacher and a room that does all of those amazing things, what
Emily:kind of class do we need to be? Have students help you fill out
Emily:that second chart.
Heidi:And you might need to share a few ideas to get the
Heidi:ball rolling. So, for example, we're the kind of class that
Heidi:protects learning time. We're the kind of class that makes
Heidi:room for people, and we can disagree respectfully.
Emily:When you have enough ideas, post the chart where it
Emily:can be referenced. Then, when work time gets too noisy, you
Emily:can call students' attention to their own words. If this is the
Emily:kind of class that protects learning time, show me what I
Emily:should expect to see you doing right now.
Heidi:You gotta love a tool that gets everyone back on track
Heidi:without you having to issue a single correction.
Heidi:So after naming it, the second step is to teach it. We all want
Heidi:classrooms where students communicate, problem solve, and
Heidi:include each other.
Emily:But those aren't personality traits; they're
Emily:skills. And if students haven't learned them, telling them to
Emily:work together is a little like handing everyone a recorder and
Emily:saying, "Okay, let's all play Uptown Funk."
Heidi:You'd expect absolute chaos in a room full of kids
Heidi:turned loose with recorders. So it's no surprise we get chaos
Heidi:when we expect kids to know how to solve disagreements or how to
Heidi:get in a group without any training.
Emily:So teach social skills the way that you would teach
Emily:anything. Name the skill, model it, let them practice, and then
Emily:discuss how it went when they put it in action.
Heidi:Yes, that is right. You can tell try telly talk here
Heidi:too. Think about the skills you want students to use in your
Heidi:class and start teaching them one at a time.
Emily:And luckily, skill lessons are usually much shorter
Emily:than procedure lessons. If you have visuals for students to
Emily:reference, you only need two or three minutes to help them
Emily:understand what's expected. For example, how to respond when
Emily:you're frustrated. The steps would be one, pause; two,
Emily:identify the problem; three, ask for what you need; and four, try
Emily:a solution.
Heidi:And then role play at a time or two. If the culture you
Heidi:want requires a skill, don't assume students already have it.
Heidi:You need to teach it.
Emily:Next up, it's time to practice. During the first few
Emily:weeks, add lots of low stakes group interactions to your
Emily:plans. Help students understand exactly what should happen
Emily:during turn and talk. How to form partnerships or groups
Emily:without leaving anyone out, and how to share materials.
Heidi:During this stage, keep the focus on the social skills,
Heidi:not academics. So, for example, my second graders worked with
Heidi:partners several times a day. So, at the start of the year, I
Heidi:taught them how to be good partners, and then gave them a
Heidi:non-academic task like a get-to-know-you activity. My
Heidi:goal is to give them practice working on the partnership
Heidi:skills without worrying about content.
Emily:And you can do the same thing with group work or any
Emily:other learning formats. Review the skill and invite students to
Emily:practice with "Would You Rather" questions instead of math
Emily:questions.
Heidi:And this is a game changer if you do centers. Stock
Heidi:all of your centers with simple activities, even a coloring page
Heidi:works okay here. And then focus on giving students practice with
Heidi:managing materials, rotating quietly, working with an
Heidi:assigned group, people they didn't choose. All of those
Heidi:skills that go into making centers run smoothly.
Emily:You might not eliminate the issues completely, but
Emily:you'll have far fewer if students know how to succeed
Emily:before you expect them to both manage social and academic
Emily:expectations at the same time.
Heidi:And then after the activity, don't just move on.
Heidi:Take a couple minutes to debrief. What went well? What
Heidi:was tricky? What will you remember to do next time?
Emily:And this step is easy to skip, but is crucial because the
Emily:activity itself isn't building your classroom culture; it's the
Emily:reflection afterward where all of this gets internalized.
Heidi:The next way to shape classroom culture is to notice
Heidi:the behavior you want more of. What you notice, you make
Heidi:visible, and what you make visible has a better chance of
Heidi:becoming contagious.
Emily:The catch is that generic praise does not do the same
Emily:thing. Good job, Table Three. It tells nobody anything about
Emily:anything. So name the behavior. I just saw three people move
Emily:their chairs that they could see the board better. That's taking
Emily:responsibility for your own learning.
Heidi:Now you're not really saying this for the kids who
Heidi:move their chairs, although you know everyone likes to be
Heidi:praised. You're saying it for the other 22 because you just
Heidi:gave them an example of what normal behavior looks like in
Heidi:your room.
Emily:If risk taking gets highlighted, you get a class
Emily:that will make a guess, even if they're unsure. But if it never
Emily:gets noticed, you get 25 kids who sit and wait for you to hand
Emily:them the answer.
Heidi:So you can start here by asking yourself, "What behavior
Heidi:do I wish would spread around the room? And then pay attention
Heidi:for the little examples of it. Notice the student who helps
Heidi:clean up, the group that solves a disagreement, students who
Heidi:redirect themselves, and the ones who make room for someone
Heidi:else.
Emily:This isn't about manipulating anyone into good
Emily:behavior, and it's not throwing a parade every time someone acts
Emily:like a decent human being. The goal is to connect individual
Emily:actions to the larger well-being of the group.
Heidi:Unless there's a problem later in the year, you probably
Heidi:don't need to schedule time all year long to practice your class
Heidi:norms. But noticing is ongoing because we want to keep our
Heidi:class norms from drifting into the half-hearted attempts.
Emily:And that brings us to our fifth step: protect it. When
Emily:someone steps outside a norm, the most powerful thing you can
Emily:say is some version of "That's not how we do things here."
Heidi:That might sound like "That's not how we solve
Heidi:problems," or "You don't have to like what he said, but you do
Heidi:have to respond respectfully."
Emily:Every time you respond to a behavior, you're not just
Emily:managing that individual student. You're also teaching
Emily:the rest of the room what the real rules of this community
Emily:are.
Heidi:But if you allow the same norm violation over and over
Heidi:without addressing it, you're teaching the class that
Heidi:everything you say is optional, and that is not a lesson you
Heidi:want students to learn.
Emily:At the end of the day, your classroom culture is
Emily:whatever pattern of behavior you permit. You may have a beautiful
Emily:poster that says we respect everyone, but if students
Emily:regularly talk over each other, exclude classmates, and make
Emily:little cutting comments, you don't have a culture of respect.
Heidi:Yeah, the poster might reflect your values, but the
Heidi:poster isn't your culture. The tolerated behavior is.
Emily:But don't feel bad if you have let things slide because we
Emily:have all been there.
Heidi:Oh yes, that's because consistently upholding your
Heidi:expectations is absolutely the hardest part of management. We
Heidi:talked all about this a couple weeks ago in episode 283. So go
Heidi:back and check that out if you missed it.
Emily:And if you need to course correct, consider what's
Emily:happening repeatedly in your classroom that you don't want to
Emily:normalize. Maybe that's calling out, complaining, tattling, or
Emily:students refusing to work together.
Heidi:And then pick one of those and address it as a
Heidi:cultural issue. Try saying something like, "I've noticed
Heidi:this has started becoming normal in our room, and it's a problem
Heidi:because it's keeping people from doing their best. Let's talk
Heidi:about what we want to do instead."
Emily:And doing this at the start of the year will save you
Emily:time in the long run, but redirection can be done at any
Emily:point in the year.
Heidi:Yeah, maybe you need to reset after a long break, or get
Heidi:everyone back on track when spring fever hits. When that
Heidi:happens, gather everyone for a discussion, talk about what's
Heidi:going well and what isn't working.
Emily:And just keep the focus on students' ideas. Ask what
Emily:kind of class they want to have and what they need to do
Emily:differently to get there. Then name it, teach it, practice it,
Emily:notice it, and protect it.
Heidi:As you settle into the regular rhythm of the year,
Heidi:remember that the goal is to build a classroom where students
Heidi:increasingly understand how to act, how to solve problems, and
Heidi:how to treat each other, even when you are across the room
Heidi:helping somebody else.
Emily:That doesn't mean there won't still be water bottle
Emily:flipping contests. There probably will be, or whatever
Emily:this year's version of six seven is going to be.
Heidi:Oh no.
Emily:But when the culture underneath is strong, those
Emily:moments are smaller and shorter.
Heidi:That's because your students have a shared framework
Heidi:for making it right and moving on. And every time they work
Heidi:through a hard moment together, the culture gets a little
Heidi:stronger.
Emily:If this conversation was helpful, you definitely want to
Emily:join us in the Teacher Approved Club. This month, we have a
Emily:resource to help you make sure that all of the lessons you're
Emily:teaching students about how to function in your room stick in
Emily:their cute little brains. So there's a link to sign up in the
Emily:show notes, or you can visit us at secondstorywindow.net/club.
Emily:Now for our teacher-approved tip of the week, where we share an
Emily:actionable tip to help you elevate what matters and
Emily:simplify the rest. This week's teacher-approved tip is to get
Emily:multiple lunch bags. Okay, tell us about it, Heidi.
Heidi:Okay, well I can't take credit for this. So, for the
Heidi:past few weeks, Mackenzie's Journey on Instagram and
Heidi:probably on TikTok has been sharing tips for how teachers
Heidi:can prep their homes, not just their classrooms, for back to
Heidi:school. And she has some really great tips that I would have
Heidi:never thought of. And one of those tips is getting five lunch
Heidi:bags. This seemed a little crazy till she explained it.
Heidi:So, if you like to batch prep your lunches for the week, or if
Heidi:you think this is something you'd like to try, you'll be
Heidi:more likely to stick with it if you remove as many hurdles as
Heidi:possible, even if all of those hurdles are small. I know when I
Heidi:have batched lunches in the past, I would make all my meals,
Heidi:and then I would have to fill up my lunch bag every day. But
Heidi:every extra step in a system is a potential weak spot. And if
Heidi:you're like me and running late in the morning, that extra step
Heidi:of having to load your bag each day could be the step that
Heidi:derails this whole plan.
Heidi:So to counter that, Mackenzie got five lunch bags. So then,
Heidi:when she's finished prepping the lunches for the week. She can
Heidi:load all of the bags right then.
Emily:Dang, that is so smart. I guess sometimes it really is the
Emily:simplest ideas that can have the biggest impact. And I think a
Emily:lot of people would hear this and be like, "Oh my gosh, I do
Emily:not need five lunch bags." But in reality, it probably would
Emily:free up more space in your brain than you might realize.
Heidi:Yeah, and I don't think it takes that much more space
Heidi:because you have to have all of those containers in your fridge
Heidi:anyway.
Emily:Yes, that's just meal prepping.
Heidi:Yeah, now they're just packed and ready to go. And
Heidi:Mackenzie even goes a step further. She has a fridge in her
Heidi:garage, so she can put all of her lunches out there and then
Heidi:just grab one as she's heading to the car. Oh, but even if you
Heidi:don't have a second fridge, just having those extra bags could be
Heidi:a huge lifesaver for you.
Emily:Well, these kind of, I hate to call it a hack, I don't
Emily:think it's really a life hack, but it's something you're
Emily:looking at something different in your life that you hadn't
Emily:looked at that way before. But I just lived for this kind of
Emily:stuff. I'm like, should I? I'm staying home, but should I prep
Emily:my lunches for the week and get five lunch bags?
Heidi:You would feel super organized.
Emily:I bet I would.
Heidi:Okay, to wrap up the show, we're sharing what we're
Heidi:giving extra credit to this week. Emily, I get your extra
Heidi:credit?
Emily:Okay, I'm giving extra credit to the movie Solo Mio,
Emily:which is a Kevin James movie. It was in theaters, I think. I
Emily:think?
Heidi:I don't think so. I think it was for TV.
Emily:Oh, maybe it was just straight for TV. I don't know.
Emily:But I watched it on Hulu, I think. I was working on a
Emily:project a couple weeks ago, and so I blew through a bunch of
Emily:movies because I was just putting something on in the
Emily:background, and I was like, "Oh, I'll just give this one a try."
Emily:And it probably helps that I went in with rock bottom
Emily:expectations because I'm like, oh, you know how Kevin James is.
Emily:Although I do like Kevin James, but you know how his movies are.
Emily:But I thought this was adorable.
Emily:So the premise is that he is in Italy to get married, and his
Emily:wife or his fiance, I guess, leaves him at the altar. Now
Emily:this happens in like the first five minutes of the movie, but
Emily:then he stays for the next three weeks or something for the
Emily:honeymoon. So he's on this tour group basically for all that
Emily:time with all these other couples and newlyweds, and it's
Emily:just such a fun cast of characters. I love when a show
Emily:has fun side characters, but that are not too ridiculous, I
Emily:thought these were all like genuinely fun and cute. And I
Emily:don't want to give too much of the movie away, but I, I
Emily:honestly thought it was a really sweet little rom com watch, if
Emily:you're looking for something.
Heidi:Well, I'll definitely have to check that out. That
Heidi:sounds delightful.
Emily:What are you giving extra credit to, Heidi?
Heidi:This is a hard pivot.
Emily:Yours usually are.
Heidi:I'm giving extra credit to slim, non-slip metal hangers.
Emily:Oh, ooh la la!
Heidi:So I don't know why I even ordered these, but they are
Heidi:so nice. I've been switching out my regular hangers, and I, I
Heidi:have had the same plastic black hangers probably for 20 or more
Heidi:years. But I've been switching these out, and I cannot believe
Heidi:the space it has freed up in my closet just to have these thin
Heidi:hangers. So they're metal, but they're thicker than wire
Heidi:hangers. You couldn't. I don't think you could bend them, and
Heidi:then they're coated in like I don't know rubber silicone
Heidi:something, so your clothes don't slide off them. It's a game
Heidi:changer for how my closet looks so much neater, and I have way
Heidi:more room. I am frankly surprised at the difference just
Heidi:this little switch up made.
Emily:I've had those kind of hangers for years. Mine, I
Emily:think, are kind of like felt lined to keep the clothes on
Emily:there.
Heidi:I have some that are, I tried some like velvet ones.
Emily:Maybe that's what it is, velvet.
Heidi:And then, like at one point, it's like I'm going all
Heidi:in on wood because I'm investing. And then I was like,
Heidi:my clothes are, these are huge. My clothes are not nice enough
Heidi:to need wood hangers.
Emily:They take up so much room.
Heidi:Yes, and I thankfully only bought like five.
Emily:Well, good thing.
Heidi:Anyway, yeah, I'm a big fan. I will put a link in the
Heidi:show notes if you need to upgrade your closet.
Emily:I committed to wood hangers for my children when
Emily:they were little, and now I'm like, why did I do that? It
Emily:just, I felt like it made their closets look so cute with all
Emily:their little clothes, and now they their clothes are too big
Emily:for all those little wooden hangers, and I need to do
Emily:something with them. Maybe I'll get them some non-slip metal
Emily:hangers.
Heidi:There you go. I think that's the only way to go.
Heidi:Well, that is it for today's episode. Remember to name,
Heidi:teach, practice, notice, and protect the classroom culture
Heidi:that you want to cultivate.
Heidi:We hope you enjoyed this episode of Teacher Approved. I'm Heidi.
Emily:And I'm Emily. Thank you for listening. Be sure to follow
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Emily:episode.
Heidi:You can connect with us and other teachers in the
Heidi:Teacher Approved Facebook group. We'll see you here next week.
Heidi:Bye for now.
Emily:Bye.