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285. Positive Classroom Culture is Your Management Secret Weapon
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Your classroom culture is what teaches students how to behave, whether you’re the one doing the teaching or not! In this episode, we’re talking about how to intentionally shape a positive classroom culture that makes classroom management easier. We break down five practical steps and explain how social skills, positive peer pressure, and clearly reinforced expectations can help students take more ownership of how your classroom works.

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Heidi:

This is episode 285 of Teacher Approved.

Heidi:

You're listening to Teacher Approved, the podcast helping

Heidi:

educators elevate what matters and simplify the rest. I'm

Heidi:

Heidi.

Emily:

And I'm Emily. We're the creators behind Second Story

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Window, where we give research-based and

Emily:

teacher-approved strategies that make teaching less stressful and

Emily:

more effective. You can check out the show notes and resources

Emily:

from each episode at secondstorywindow.net.

Heidi:

We're so glad you're tuning in today. Let's get to

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the show.

Emily:

Hey there! Thanks for joining us today. In today's

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episode, we are talking about how to shape your classroom

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culture so it can boost your classroom management, and we've

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got a tip for making your mornings a little easier.

Heidi:

But first, let's start with a try it tomorrow, where we

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share a quick win that you can try right away. Emily, what is

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our suggestion this week?

Emily:

Okay, this week look at the school calendar and get all

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the upcoming school theme days or dress up days on the

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calendar. Maybe even set a reminder for the day before so

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that you're not scrambling in the morning.

Heidi:

And also, if you need to buy anything like new pajamas

Heidi:

for pajama day or a shirt in a certain color, order it now so

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that you have exactly what you need.

Emily:

And if you're worried about how to look cute in the

Emily:

school T-shirt you're expected to wear, go back to episode 245

Emily:

where Lindsay from Fashion Fix shared a teacher-approved tip

Emily:

for how to style a school shirt. She had some really great ideas.

Heidi:

And if you like this idea or anything else we share here

Heidi:

today, would you do us a favor and share this episode with a

Heidi:

teacher friend? People trust recommendations from people they

Heidi:

know. So every time you share our show, it really does help us

Heidi:

out.

Emily:

Okay, we are officially in September, which means a lot

Emily:

of our listeners are starting school this week. And if that is

Emily:

you, happy first week! We hope everything goes smoothly.

Heidi:

And actually, a lot of teachers have been back in

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school for weeks already.

Emily:

Yep, especially around where we are. And if that is

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you, then we hope everything is continuing to go smoothly a few

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weeks later.

Heidi:

But wherever you land on the back to school spectrum,

Heidi:

hopefully you're in a situation where you only have 16 kids in

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your class, and they're all eager, focused learners.

Emily:

Yes, I really hope that's true for all of you, but more

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likely, let's say there are 25 students in your classroom,

Emily:

maybe 30, maybe more, and there is one of you.

Heidi:

I don't like that math.

Emily:

No.

Heidi:

Because even if you are the most present, most connected

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teacher in the building, there is no version of the day where

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you can personally manage all of those kids all of the time. It

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is absolutely impossible.

Emily:

Right. Because while you're helping one student

Emily:

understand the assignment, there's two kids that are

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deciding whether to stay focused or start talking. Someone just

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knocked over their pencil box, and their neighbor is looking

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around to see if it's okay to laugh. Another student is trying

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to decide whether it's socially acceptable to ask a question

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that they think might sound dumb.

Heidi:

And you aren't there to personally coach students

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through every one of those decisions. You physically can't

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be, which means that for most of the day, your students are not

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being managed by you at all. They are being managed by each

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other.

Emily:

Yeah, and this is a part of teaching that we don't

Emily:

discuss enough. The social environment in your classroom

Emily:

develops its own answers to questions like, is it cool to

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try, or is it cooler to pretend that you don't care? How do we

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respond when somebody is being annoying?

Heidi:

Or is this a room where we help each other, or a room

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where we look out for ourselves? The answers to these questions

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aren't just individual behavior choices; they are cultural

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norms.

Emily:

Classroom culture is the collection of unwritten rules

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about how things work. Is this the kind of classroom where

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people stay on task if the teacher has to step in the hall

Emily:

for a minute, or is it the kind of class where the teacher's

Emily:

absence is an excuse to run wild?

Heidi:

That always bugs me about teachers on TV or in movies. You

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know, they just step into the hall for a five-minute chat

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without a second to worry about what's breaking up behind them.

Emily:

One of the most unbelievable parts of Abbott

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Elementary. Even though I love Abbott Elementary, but frequent

Emily:

hall chats with multiple teachers. That's not, that's not

Emily:

realistic, and obviously that's because those teachers are lucky

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enough to have writers telling those kids what to do. But

Emily:

sadly, someone forgot to hand out the script to the rest of

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the kids that we have in our classrooms.

Heidi:

Which is why culture matters so much. It's

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essentially the script your students follow for knowing how

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to behave from minute to minute, which makes it much more

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influential than the rules hanging on your wall.

Emily:

And unlike classroom rules, culture will develop

Emily:

completely organically. Which means if you don't decide to

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shape your culture on purpose, you are basically letting the

Emily:

loudest voices in your room do it.

Heidi:

Sometimes that works out beautifully. You get two or

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three natural leaders who set a great tone, and then you can

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just ride that all year and feel like a genius.

Emily:

Uh huh. But more often than not, you end up with a

Emily:

culture of chatting and nonstop water bottle flipping contests.

Emily:

The reason culture is such a potent tool is because of

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something called social contagion. Like that back to

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school cold that you're currently fighting off, behavior

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also spreads.

Heidi:

You have definitely experienced how this works. So

Heidi:

when you are the new person at a job, you watch your coworkers to

Heidi:

see where to sit at lunch or how loud conversations can be, and

Heidi:

then you just copy what everyone else is doing.

Emily:

Classrooms run the same way. When kindness and effort

Emily:

and respect are the standard in a room, then kids absorb it and

Emily:

reflect it back to each other without being asked. But it also

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works in the opposite direction.

Heidi:

Yeah, if eye rolling is tolerated in September, eye

Heidi:

rolling is the standard by October. Kids are watching what

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you let slide far more closely than they are listening to what

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you say.

Emily:

So when you're working against a student-created

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culture, you spend the whole day putting out fires that the

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culture started.

Heidi:

But with a teacher-led culture, your students hold each

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other to the standard, and you have fewer problems to manage.

Heidi:

That's because you have peer pressure on your side.

Emily:

We spend a lot of time trying to protect kids from peer

Emily:

pressure, but the truth is, peer pressure is going to exist

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whether we acknowledge it or not.

Heidi:

And that's why we definitely want to make sure

Heidi:

that the pressure in our classroom is pushing everyone in

Heidi:

a useful direction. Positive peer pressure makes the

Heidi:

difference between students watching someone disrupt a

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lesson and joining in, and someone leaning over to whisper,

Heidi:

"Dude, stop! We're trying to work."

Emily:

In the first few days of school, hopefully, you scheduled

Emily:

time for important community building activities. But as we

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move into the school year, your work here isn't done. A positive

Emily:

classroom culture requires attention, the way that

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relationships do.

Heidi:

But don't let that panic you. Unlike most lessons,

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teaching students how things work in your room happens in the

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little moments. When you respond calmly to a broken rule instead

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of losing your cool, you teach that mistakes are expected.

Emily:

Yeah, and when you invite a student to try again if

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they've spoken harshly to a classmate, you teach that

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respect and relationships matter in your class.

Heidi:

But if you want to be more intentional about shaping

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your classroom culture, we've boiled down the whole process to

five steps:

name it, teach it, practice it, notice it, and

five steps:

protect it.

Emily:

All right, let's walk through the first one, which is

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name it. This is an easy one to skip over because it feels so

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obvious, but it's worth saying it anyway. Start by finding 10

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minutes on two different days for a class discussion.

Heidi:

For the first day, prepare a chart or a blank slide

Heidi:

with three columns. Label one column, "I want a teacher who,"

Heidi:

label the second column, "I want a classmate who," and label the

Heidi:

third column, "I want a classroom that," and then invite

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students to share their ideas about how to complete those

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sentences.

Emily:

And then on the second day, post a chart or slide that

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says, "We are the kind of class..." Refer back to the

Emily:

previous day's poster. If we want to have classmates and a

Emily:

teacher and a room that does all of those amazing things, what

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kind of class do we need to be? Have students help you fill out

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that second chart.

Heidi:

And you might need to share a few ideas to get the

Heidi:

ball rolling. So, for example, we're the kind of class that

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protects learning time. We're the kind of class that makes

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room for people, and we can disagree respectfully.

Emily:

When you have enough ideas, post the chart where it

Emily:

can be referenced. Then, when work time gets too noisy, you

Emily:

can call students' attention to their own words. If this is the

Emily:

kind of class that protects learning time, show me what I

Emily:

should expect to see you doing right now.

Heidi:

You gotta love a tool that gets everyone back on track

Heidi:

without you having to issue a single correction.

Heidi:

So after naming it, the second step is to teach it. We all want

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classrooms where students communicate, problem solve, and

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include each other.

Emily:

But those aren't personality traits; they're

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skills. And if students haven't learned them, telling them to

Emily:

work together is a little like handing everyone a recorder and

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saying, "Okay, let's all play Uptown Funk."

Heidi:

You'd expect absolute chaos in a room full of kids

Heidi:

turned loose with recorders. So it's no surprise we get chaos

Heidi:

when we expect kids to know how to solve disagreements or how to

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get in a group without any training.

Emily:

So teach social skills the way that you would teach

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anything. Name the skill, model it, let them practice, and then

Emily:

discuss how it went when they put it in action.

Heidi:

Yes, that is right. You can tell try telly talk here

Heidi:

too. Think about the skills you want students to use in your

Heidi:

class and start teaching them one at a time.

Emily:

And luckily, skill lessons are usually much shorter

Emily:

than procedure lessons. If you have visuals for students to

Emily:

reference, you only need two or three minutes to help them

Emily:

understand what's expected. For example, how to respond when

Emily:

you're frustrated. The steps would be one, pause; two,

Emily:

identify the problem; three, ask for what you need; and four, try

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a solution.

Heidi:

And then role play at a time or two. If the culture you

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want requires a skill, don't assume students already have it.

Heidi:

You need to teach it.

Emily:

Next up, it's time to practice. During the first few

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weeks, add lots of low stakes group interactions to your

Emily:

plans. Help students understand exactly what should happen

Emily:

during turn and talk. How to form partnerships or groups

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without leaving anyone out, and how to share materials.

Heidi:

During this stage, keep the focus on the social skills,

Heidi:

not academics. So, for example, my second graders worked with

Heidi:

partners several times a day. So, at the start of the year, I

Heidi:

taught them how to be good partners, and then gave them a

Heidi:

non-academic task like a get-to-know-you activity. My

Heidi:

goal is to give them practice working on the partnership

Heidi:

skills without worrying about content.

Emily:

And you can do the same thing with group work or any

Emily:

other learning formats. Review the skill and invite students to

Emily:

practice with "Would You Rather" questions instead of math

Emily:

questions.

Heidi:

And this is a game changer if you do centers. Stock

Heidi:

all of your centers with simple activities, even a coloring page

Heidi:

works okay here. And then focus on giving students practice with

Heidi:

managing materials, rotating quietly, working with an

Heidi:

assigned group, people they didn't choose. All of those

Heidi:

skills that go into making centers run smoothly.

Emily:

You might not eliminate the issues completely, but

Emily:

you'll have far fewer if students know how to succeed

Emily:

before you expect them to both manage social and academic

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expectations at the same time.

Heidi:

And then after the activity, don't just move on.

Heidi:

Take a couple minutes to debrief. What went well? What

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was tricky? What will you remember to do next time?

Emily:

And this step is easy to skip, but is crucial because the

Emily:

activity itself isn't building your classroom culture; it's the

Emily:

reflection afterward where all of this gets internalized.

Heidi:

The next way to shape classroom culture is to notice

Heidi:

the behavior you want more of. What you notice, you make

Heidi:

visible, and what you make visible has a better chance of

Heidi:

becoming contagious.

Emily:

The catch is that generic praise does not do the same

Emily:

thing. Good job, Table Three. It tells nobody anything about

Emily:

anything. So name the behavior. I just saw three people move

Emily:

their chairs that they could see the board better. That's taking

Emily:

responsibility for your own learning.

Heidi:

Now you're not really saying this for the kids who

Heidi:

move their chairs, although you know everyone likes to be

Heidi:

praised. You're saying it for the other 22 because you just

Heidi:

gave them an example of what normal behavior looks like in

Heidi:

your room.

Emily:

If risk taking gets highlighted, you get a class

Emily:

that will make a guess, even if they're unsure. But if it never

Emily:

gets noticed, you get 25 kids who sit and wait for you to hand

Emily:

them the answer.

Heidi:

So you can start here by asking yourself, "What behavior

Heidi:

do I wish would spread around the room? And then pay attention

Heidi:

for the little examples of it. Notice the student who helps

Heidi:

clean up, the group that solves a disagreement, students who

Heidi:

redirect themselves, and the ones who make room for someone

Heidi:

else.

Emily:

This isn't about manipulating anyone into good

Emily:

behavior, and it's not throwing a parade every time someone acts

Emily:

like a decent human being. The goal is to connect individual

Emily:

actions to the larger well-being of the group.

Heidi:

Unless there's a problem later in the year, you probably

Heidi:

don't need to schedule time all year long to practice your class

Heidi:

norms. But noticing is ongoing because we want to keep our

Heidi:

class norms from drifting into the half-hearted attempts.

Emily:

And that brings us to our fifth step: protect it. When

Emily:

someone steps outside a norm, the most powerful thing you can

Emily:

say is some version of "That's not how we do things here."

Heidi:

That might sound like "That's not how we solve

Heidi:

problems," or "You don't have to like what he said, but you do

Heidi:

have to respond respectfully."

Emily:

Every time you respond to a behavior, you're not just

Emily:

managing that individual student. You're also teaching

Emily:

the rest of the room what the real rules of this community

Emily:

are.

Heidi:

But if you allow the same norm violation over and over

Heidi:

without addressing it, you're teaching the class that

Heidi:

everything you say is optional, and that is not a lesson you

Heidi:

want students to learn.

Emily:

At the end of the day, your classroom culture is

Emily:

whatever pattern of behavior you permit. You may have a beautiful

Emily:

poster that says we respect everyone, but if students

Emily:

regularly talk over each other, exclude classmates, and make

Emily:

little cutting comments, you don't have a culture of respect.

Heidi:

Yeah, the poster might reflect your values, but the

Heidi:

poster isn't your culture. The tolerated behavior is.

Emily:

But don't feel bad if you have let things slide because we

Emily:

have all been there.

Heidi:

Oh yes, that's because consistently upholding your

Heidi:

expectations is absolutely the hardest part of management. We

Heidi:

talked all about this a couple weeks ago in episode 283. So go

Heidi:

back and check that out if you missed it.

Emily:

And if you need to course correct, consider what's

Emily:

happening repeatedly in your classroom that you don't want to

Emily:

normalize. Maybe that's calling out, complaining, tattling, or

Emily:

students refusing to work together.

Heidi:

And then pick one of those and address it as a

Heidi:

cultural issue. Try saying something like, "I've noticed

Heidi:

this has started becoming normal in our room, and it's a problem

Heidi:

because it's keeping people from doing their best. Let's talk

Heidi:

about what we want to do instead."

Emily:

And doing this at the start of the year will save you

Emily:

time in the long run, but redirection can be done at any

Emily:

point in the year.

Heidi:

Yeah, maybe you need to reset after a long break, or get

Heidi:

everyone back on track when spring fever hits. When that

Heidi:

happens, gather everyone for a discussion, talk about what's

Heidi:

going well and what isn't working.

Emily:

And just keep the focus on students' ideas. Ask what

Emily:

kind of class they want to have and what they need to do

Emily:

differently to get there. Then name it, teach it, practice it,

Emily:

notice it, and protect it.

Heidi:

As you settle into the regular rhythm of the year,

Heidi:

remember that the goal is to build a classroom where students

Heidi:

increasingly understand how to act, how to solve problems, and

Heidi:

how to treat each other, even when you are across the room

Heidi:

helping somebody else.

Emily:

That doesn't mean there won't still be water bottle

Emily:

flipping contests. There probably will be, or whatever

Emily:

this year's version of six seven is going to be.

Heidi:

Oh no.

Emily:

But when the culture underneath is strong, those

Emily:

moments are smaller and shorter.

Heidi:

That's because your students have a shared framework

Heidi:

for making it right and moving on. And every time they work

Heidi:

through a hard moment together, the culture gets a little

Heidi:

stronger.

Emily:

If this conversation was helpful, you definitely want to

Emily:

join us in the Teacher Approved Club. This month, we have a

Emily:

resource to help you make sure that all of the lessons you're

Emily:

teaching students about how to function in your room stick in

Emily:

their cute little brains. So there's a link to sign up in the

Emily:

show notes, or you can visit us at secondstorywindow.net/club.

Emily:

Now for our teacher-approved tip of the week, where we share an

Emily:

actionable tip to help you elevate what matters and

Emily:

simplify the rest. This week's teacher-approved tip is to get

Emily:

multiple lunch bags. Okay, tell us about it, Heidi.

Heidi:

Okay, well I can't take credit for this. So, for the

Heidi:

past few weeks, Mackenzie's Journey on Instagram and

Heidi:

probably on TikTok has been sharing tips for how teachers

Heidi:

can prep their homes, not just their classrooms, for back to

Heidi:

school. And she has some really great tips that I would have

Heidi:

never thought of. And one of those tips is getting five lunch

Heidi:

bags. This seemed a little crazy till she explained it.

Heidi:

So, if you like to batch prep your lunches for the week, or if

Heidi:

you think this is something you'd like to try, you'll be

Heidi:

more likely to stick with it if you remove as many hurdles as

Heidi:

possible, even if all of those hurdles are small. I know when I

Heidi:

have batched lunches in the past, I would make all my meals,

Heidi:

and then I would have to fill up my lunch bag every day. But

Heidi:

every extra step in a system is a potential weak spot. And if

Heidi:

you're like me and running late in the morning, that extra step

Heidi:

of having to load your bag each day could be the step that

Heidi:

derails this whole plan.

Heidi:

So to counter that, Mackenzie got five lunch bags. So then,

Heidi:

when she's finished prepping the lunches for the week. She can

Heidi:

load all of the bags right then.

Emily:

Dang, that is so smart. I guess sometimes it really is the

Emily:

simplest ideas that can have the biggest impact. And I think a

Emily:

lot of people would hear this and be like, "Oh my gosh, I do

Emily:

not need five lunch bags." But in reality, it probably would

Emily:

free up more space in your brain than you might realize.

Heidi:

Yeah, and I don't think it takes that much more space

Heidi:

because you have to have all of those containers in your fridge

Heidi:

anyway.

Emily:

Yes, that's just meal prepping.

Heidi:

Yeah, now they're just packed and ready to go. And

Heidi:

Mackenzie even goes a step further. She has a fridge in her

Heidi:

garage, so she can put all of her lunches out there and then

Heidi:

just grab one as she's heading to the car. Oh, but even if you

Heidi:

don't have a second fridge, just having those extra bags could be

Heidi:

a huge lifesaver for you.

Emily:

Well, these kind of, I hate to call it a hack, I don't

Emily:

think it's really a life hack, but it's something you're

Emily:

looking at something different in your life that you hadn't

Emily:

looked at that way before. But I just lived for this kind of

Emily:

stuff. I'm like, should I? I'm staying home, but should I prep

Emily:

my lunches for the week and get five lunch bags?

Heidi:

You would feel super organized.

Emily:

I bet I would.

Heidi:

Okay, to wrap up the show, we're sharing what we're

Heidi:

giving extra credit to this week. Emily, I get your extra

Heidi:

credit?

Emily:

Okay, I'm giving extra credit to the movie Solo Mio,

Emily:

which is a Kevin James movie. It was in theaters, I think. I

Emily:

think?

Heidi:

I don't think so. I think it was for TV.

Emily:

Oh, maybe it was just straight for TV. I don't know.

Emily:

But I watched it on Hulu, I think. I was working on a

Emily:

project a couple weeks ago, and so I blew through a bunch of

Emily:

movies because I was just putting something on in the

Emily:

background, and I was like, "Oh, I'll just give this one a try."

Emily:

And it probably helps that I went in with rock bottom

Emily:

expectations because I'm like, oh, you know how Kevin James is.

Emily:

Although I do like Kevin James, but you know how his movies are.

Emily:

But I thought this was adorable.

Emily:

So the premise is that he is in Italy to get married, and his

Emily:

wife or his fiance, I guess, leaves him at the altar. Now

Emily:

this happens in like the first five minutes of the movie, but

Emily:

then he stays for the next three weeks or something for the

Emily:

honeymoon. So he's on this tour group basically for all that

Emily:

time with all these other couples and newlyweds, and it's

Emily:

just such a fun cast of characters. I love when a show

Emily:

has fun side characters, but that are not too ridiculous, I

Emily:

thought these were all like genuinely fun and cute. And I

Emily:

don't want to give too much of the movie away, but I, I

Emily:

honestly thought it was a really sweet little rom com watch, if

Emily:

you're looking for something.

Heidi:

Well, I'll definitely have to check that out. That

Heidi:

sounds delightful.

Emily:

What are you giving extra credit to, Heidi?

Heidi:

This is a hard pivot.

Emily:

Yours usually are.

Heidi:

I'm giving extra credit to slim, non-slip metal hangers.

Emily:

Oh, ooh la la!

Heidi:

So I don't know why I even ordered these, but they are

Heidi:

so nice. I've been switching out my regular hangers, and I, I

Heidi:

have had the same plastic black hangers probably for 20 or more

Heidi:

years. But I've been switching these out, and I cannot believe

Heidi:

the space it has freed up in my closet just to have these thin

Heidi:

hangers. So they're metal, but they're thicker than wire

Heidi:

hangers. You couldn't. I don't think you could bend them, and

Heidi:

then they're coated in like I don't know rubber silicone

Heidi:

something, so your clothes don't slide off them. It's a game

Heidi:

changer for how my closet looks so much neater, and I have way

Heidi:

more room. I am frankly surprised at the difference just

Heidi:

this little switch up made.

Emily:

I've had those kind of hangers for years. Mine, I

Emily:

think, are kind of like felt lined to keep the clothes on

Emily:

there.

Heidi:

I have some that are, I tried some like velvet ones.

Emily:

Maybe that's what it is, velvet.

Heidi:

And then, like at one point, it's like I'm going all

Heidi:

in on wood because I'm investing. And then I was like,

Heidi:

my clothes are, these are huge. My clothes are not nice enough

Heidi:

to need wood hangers.

Emily:

They take up so much room.

Heidi:

Yes, and I thankfully only bought like five.

Emily:

Well, good thing.

Heidi:

Anyway, yeah, I'm a big fan. I will put a link in the

Heidi:

show notes if you need to upgrade your closet.

Emily:

I committed to wood hangers for my children when

Emily:

they were little, and now I'm like, why did I do that? It

Emily:

just, I felt like it made their closets look so cute with all

Emily:

their little clothes, and now they their clothes are too big

Emily:

for all those little wooden hangers, and I need to do

Emily:

something with them. Maybe I'll get them some non-slip metal

Emily:

hangers.

Heidi:

There you go. I think that's the only way to go.

Heidi:

Well, that is it for today's episode. Remember to name,

Heidi:

teach, practice, notice, and protect the classroom culture

Heidi:

that you want to cultivate.

Heidi:

We hope you enjoyed this episode of Teacher Approved. I'm Heidi.

Emily:

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Heidi:

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Heidi:

Bye for now.

Emily:

Bye.

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