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Transformation Isn't Complete Until Cause Equals Effect - EP 244
Episode 24419th July 2024 • The Demartini Show • Dr John Demartini
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An event is NEUTRAL until you come along with a subjective bias (seeing only one side) and labels it as being terrible or terrific.

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If you change the perception of an event,

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you change the per the attitude you have

towards it and the decisions and the

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actions that come out of it.

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Very often today we are

confronted on media with

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language in psychology that is

perpetrator, innocent victim model,

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and predator, prey

model. Kinda like a zoo,

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a zoological psychology I call it.

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And we go around and we

play victim mentality,

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instead of victory mentality.

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Today I'd like to talk about a

topic that therapy is really not

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complete until cause equals

effect in space time.

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Now what does that mean?

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So let's say you are having an event in

your life that you think is traumatic,

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tragic, turmoiled, terrible,

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torture. And then you blame the individual

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that you believe is the cause of that.

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And you basically assume that

they're the cause of your effect.

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And you separate cause and effect.

It happened about an hour ago.

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It happened over there at that location.

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As long as the cause is separated from

effect, you're playing the victim.

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Because out there, that thing outside

you is the cause of the way you feel.

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I'd like to offer a different

way of looking at it.

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I'm a firm believer that we have control

over our perceptions, our decisions,

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and our actions in life.

And what happens to us

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is part of the dynamic, but that's not

the most important part of the dynamic,

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because what happens is we

can change our perceptions.

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For the last 50 years I've been

studying human behavior and

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for probably 40 of those years I've

been clinically working with people. And

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I've had people that have been

through unbelievable situations,

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literally unbelievable situations that

you would think are traumatic, torturous,

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terrible. But

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I ask them a new set of questions and I

have them change the perception of what

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actually occurred in their life. And

all of a sudden this torture disappears.

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What happened occurred, but

their perception of it changed.

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And when they stacked up the benefits

that came out of this situation,

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immediately and over time,

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they got to a point where they're

actually grateful this thing happened.

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And all of a sudden I said,

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do you still want to call it

torture or turmoil or terrible? No,

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it's actually a blessing.

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It's actually something that actually

catalyzed something great in my life that

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I didn't see, and I chose to see

the down sides, not the upsides.

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I had a subjective bias

in my interpretation.

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I was conscious of the negatives,

unconscious of the positives.

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I had a confirmation,

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a subjective confirmation bias on the

negatives and a subjective disconfirmation

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on the positives at that moment.

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So what happened to me is an

event that's neutral until

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somebody comes along with a subjective

bias and labels it terrible, or terrific.

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And it can go either way.

As Milton, John Milton said,

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we can make a heaven out of a

hell or a hell out of a heaven,

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by thinking makes it so.

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So what I've done is I've taken

people who've had this terrible event

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that they initially blamed, therefore

that was the cause of their effect,

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and all of a sudden asked

them what were the upsides?

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What were the benefits that came

up? And if this had not happened,

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what would've been the drawbacks?

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And we've balanced out the

perceptions to such a degree that

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they're now looking at it and they're

going, well that's not even traumatic.

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I don't feel it as a terrible

event, it's actually catalyzed.

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They found the mean between the positive

and negatives and they extracted

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meaning out of their

existential experience.

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And all of a sudden this terrible

event became something that was,

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had just as much terrific as terrible.

It was completely balanced and neutral.

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And then I then made people

stop and wonder, well,

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is it actually the cause

out there of my effect?

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Or was the cause my

perception of that event?

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And actually at the moment of the

cause, my perception, I had the effect.

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It wasn't something that

happened back there.

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What happened back there was a subjective

interpretation of what was going on,

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not an objective reality, but

a subjective interpretation.

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And I chose to see the

negatives without the positives.

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So I was the cause of my own effect,

even though that event occurred.

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Now this leads to a very slippery

slope right now in morals and ethics,

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well did what they do, are they the

cause of your and do we blame them?

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It was Epictetus, the Greek

philosopher that said,

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when you start on your

personal development journey,

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you start off with the idea that

you blame people on the outside,

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and then you actually start to think,

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as I'm going through and finding the

benefits of it, you start to think, well,

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I'm blaming myself because

I'm part of the perception.

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And then when you balance it, you

realize there's nothing to blame.

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You realize that your perceptions

really what made this whole thing

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happen, your perceptions. And

then if you ask the question,

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if this had never happened,

what would've been the drawback?

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You crack the fantasy about how

life's supposed to be. Well,

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you brought to the table the

fantasy in the first place,

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and you labeled it terrible because it

didn't match the fantasy of how these

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people or this event should have gone.

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And so what we've done is we've

now transformed the perception.

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And so now the cause was

not really the event.

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The cause was the perception of the event.

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So I don't like to call people, when

people come to me and say, well,

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I'm a victim of a traumatic

event, a post-traumatic event,

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I'd rather just say that you are an

individual that perceived an event, now

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let's take our perceptions and change

it. William James, about 130 years ago,

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said that the greatest discovery of

our generation is that human beings can

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alter their lives by altering their

perceptions and attitudes of mind. Well,

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if you change the perception of an event,

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you change the attitude you have

towards it and the decisions and the

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actions that come out of it. I've had

people who've had horrendous things,

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that's what they labeled it

as, happened in their life.

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And they're now in an anxiety and a

post-traumatic stress mode and I ask them,

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what's the benefits? And they've

never asked that question.

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They just assume that that's a bad

thing. And they never ask questions,

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and quality of your life's based on

the quality of the questions ask.

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If you ask the question,

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how is this helping me fulfill

what's most meaningful to me?

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How has it served me? How has

it been a benefit in my life?

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How has it been an advantage by that

experience? If I hadn't had that,

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what would've been the drawbacks to my

life? Where have I done that in my life?

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Because many times we point our finger

at others and we're not even looking at

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ourself. And then we realize if I did it,

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I must have been some sort of advantage

or we wouldn't have done it at the time.

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So how is this a benefit? Anything

that's occurred on the planet,

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if it's still here after

thousands of years,

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it must be serving human beings some

way or it would've gone extinct.

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So the question is, is how did it

benefit you? How's it an upswing?

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When I have these events that we think

are terrific, I also ask the opposite,

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because sometimes you're blind and

now you've given a false causality.

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They're the cause of my happiness.

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I'm a firm believer that they're not

the cause of your sadness or happiness.

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They have just initiated an action,

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your interpretation of that

action is what's determined that.

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In some parts of the world, different

actions have different things.

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I had a gentleman that came

to me and he said, well,

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I wasn't there for my mom

when she died and I felt

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bad. And so he was thinking, that's

terrible. And then I asked him,

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so what was the benefit of you

not being there? He says, well,

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how could there be a benefit? I wasn't

there for my mom when she died. I said,

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well,

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you're making an assumption that you'd

been there life would've been somehow

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better, and if you hadn't,

somehow that was terrible,

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that's an artificial thing

you made up in your head.

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So what was the benefit

that you didn't show up?

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And after about five or 10 times I asked

that question and him umming and ah and

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playing, he finally realized that,

huh, if I would've been there,

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I would've interfered with the

completion between my mom and my sister,

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because my mom died in my sister's arms

and they hadn't talked to each other in

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years. And they finally got to make up.

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And I know that was the most important

thing in my mom's to resolve that thing

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before she died. And they got

to do it. If I had been there,

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it wouldn't have happened.

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And then he thought that this terrible

event actually was perfect. Nothing to,

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nothing to fix. And he was

actually grateful for himself.

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And he'd been shaming himself for weeks

or months unnecessarily because he

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compared his reality to a fantasy

about how it's supposed to have been.

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And the same thing when people have

events that we think are terrible.

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I don't like to label things good or

bad or right or wrong or terrible or

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terrific. I like to label them

as an event. Now the question is,

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is how do you want to perceive it?

You have amazing resourcefulness.

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You have the capacity to take a mountain

and make it a mole hill or a mole hill

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and make it a mountain.

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You can make turmoil outta something

or you can make it terrific.

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It's purely how you ask the question.

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And if you hold yourself accountable to

answer the question and stop putting the

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label on it,

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you don't become a victim of your

history and you don't separate cause and

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effect. They're the cause. I'm the

effect. I'm an innocent victim.

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They're the perpetrator, I'm the prey.

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They preyed on me and they

now need to be punished.

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And I'm this innocent victim.

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And I find that that never

really gets you out of the cycle,

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because now you're going

to live in anxiety,

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you've got a subconsciously stored

baggage that's an incomplete awareness,

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you're living in fear all

the time of that happening,

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instead of being resourceful and finding

out how, what was the other side of it?

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So if it happens, you win. If it

doesn't happen, you win. And to me,

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I'm a firm believer in having resilience

and adaptability and taking command of

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perceptions and realize that you

have control over your perceptions.

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You can make things positive or negative.

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We've all had an event that we thought

was terrible a day, a week, a month,

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a year, or five years later, turned out

to have some terrific sitting in it,

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but we didn't see it initially.

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So we had the wisdom of the ages with the

aging process instead of the wisdom of

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the ages without it. Well,

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the quality of your life is based

on the quality of those questions.

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If you ask questions

and see it right away,

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you can find the terrific in the terrible

and then realize that the labels are

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just illusions.

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They're just things you made up based

on some moral hypocrisy that you may

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have been trained in,

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that may not even be true and may

have a deeper meaning for your life.

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I had a situation where a gentleman

basically came and said, you know,

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my father used to beat me and just was

aggressive and finally kicked me outta

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the house. And I asked him, so what

was the benefit of that? And he goes,

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well how could there be a benefit of

that? Well, what was the benefit of that?

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And he goes, well, I

never asked that question,

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how could there be a benefit of somebody

beating the hell outta you when you're

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a teenager? I said, well,

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what did you do to challenge the hell

out of him and make him want to beat you?

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Well, I was defying him and I was

fighting with him. I said, great.

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So what was the benefit of him

beating the hell outta you? Well,

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I became independent, left home and

became an entrepreneur. . I said,

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do you have a successful business

today? He says, I do. I said,

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did you have any brothers and sisters?

Yeah, I had a brother. I said,

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did he beat the hell outta

your brother? He says, no,

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he always treated him differently. I said,

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did you think that you wish you could

have that position where the way he

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treated you, he treated your

brother? Well, yeah. I said,

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so would you trade places

with your brother today? No,

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he is still living at home waiting for

dad to die so he can take over a small

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little farm. I said,

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so what you're saying is if you

had had what your brother had,

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you might end up like your

brother? And he goes, yeah. I said,

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did your dad believe you were

more capable than you thought?

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And maybe that's why he basically

didn't have to worry about you,

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he knew you could take care of yourself,

you're a tough kid? He goes, yeah,

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I became an entrepreneur and very viable

individual and completely independent.

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I said, so did you ever thank your dad

for helping you become independent,

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because you could be like your brother

and be waiting for a handout? He says,

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no. And he started crying and

he started being grateful.

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And he actually contacted his father

and then met with his father before he

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died. His father was 82 and

he was 58 when this happened.

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And he hadn't seen his father for 42

years. So he thought this was terrible.

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And 42 years later he found out it wasn't,

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he just didn't ask the right question.

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So he thought he was a victim of

a cause and he was the effect.

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When I got through asking the question,

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he realized that the cause

was his perception and

incomplete awareness of what

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was happening in life at the time.

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And so all of a sudden he

was now grateful for his dad.

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And he met his dad before he died.

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And it was the most tear-jerking moment

in his life when he came back and

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realized, I now understand what you did.

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And his dad wasn't a monster when he

met him. He was just a human being.

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And he realized that.

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So I basically am not the believer

that we we're here to label something.

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I think the labels we put on people

are, and on events like this trap us.

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I'm a firm believer in asking questions

and being accountable and bringing our

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mind into accountable

balance and balance sheet.

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See the assets and liabilities together,

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the positives and the negatives

together and balance them out,

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so no matter what happens in our

life, we can use it to our advantage.

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Otherwise, we're a victim of

history, not a master of destiny.

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So I say that no therapy

is really complete until

cause equals effect in space

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time. When you finally realize that

you're the cause by your own cause of your

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perceptions of what actually event occurs,

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you no longer have to play this idea

that this happened to me and now live in

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fear of that happening again.

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Because fear is an assumption that there's

more drawbacks than benefits coming

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in the future, if all of a sudden you

find the benefits and balance it out,

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you don't have to live in fear all

your life, you can live in gratitude.

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Anything you're not

grateful for is baggage.

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Anything you are grateful for is fuel.

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So I challenge you to go and

ask a new set of questions.

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Take a list of the things you think are

terrible that happened in your life.

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And I could take a list and I could

share with you some of the stuff that's

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happened in my life that are

blessings in my life today,

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but if I showed them to you and

shared them with you, you think, wow,

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that's terrible. No it

isn't. It's an event.

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All events are neutral until somebody

with a subjective bias interpretation of

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that event labels it, and labels it

good or bad by some moral hypocrisy,

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some moral ideal that you know,

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you're supposed to be nice without mean

or kind without cruel or one sided all

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the time, instead of actually seeing

both sides of life. And, you know,

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imagine you're getting into a relationship

with somebody and you're expecting

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only the positives and

never the negatives,

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well you're going to be unprepared for a

real relationship because it's going to

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give you nice and mean and kind and cruel

and positive and negative and support

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and challenge and there for you and not

there for you and close and distance and

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you know, quiet and speaking and every

pair of opposites you can imagine.

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So if you have an appreciation for both

sides right off the bat and you expect

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that and you can see that,

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then your expectations match reality

and you're grateful for your life.

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But if not, you have a fantasy

about how life's supposed to be,

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life doesn't match it,

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you're now depressed because

life isn't matching your fantasy.

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And then we go around label things

and expect them because of some

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indoctrination of some idea that we're

supposed to have a one-sided world and

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people are supposed to be only one sided.

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And my experience is life

has both sides. You know,

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there are people that are playing both

sides in my life and they're simultaneous

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if you look really carefully.

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So I'm a firm believer that until you

can actually link cause and effect back

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together and get to an acausal state,

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this is what Carl Jung was

talking about in synchronicity,

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the synchronicity of the pairs of

opposites. If you see a negative,

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where's the positive? If you see

a positive, where's the negative?

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If you see simultaneously both,

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then you end up liberating yourself

from the emotional baggage.

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If you see only the negative side,

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well it's going to occupy space and time

in your mind, it's going to run you.

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If you see only the positive side,

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it's going to occupy space and

time in your mind and run you.

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That's why if you're highly resentful

or infatuated with somebody,

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you can't sleep at night.

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Because your mind's ruminating on this

intrusive thoughts of these incomplete

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awarenesses.

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And your amygdala is assigning valency

to your experience and storing in the

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hippocampus, and it's got

this intrusive memory.

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And we become victims of that and we

can't sleep at night because of these

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so-called traumas. But I've had people

of almost every imaginable trauma,

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asked them and held them accountable

to look for the other side,

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find the balance to it,

liberate themselves,

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all of a sudden take away the blame,

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take away the blame of

themselves or others,

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and just see the order of it and be

grateful for it, find meaning in it.

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And as Viktor Frankl said

in the concentration camps,

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those that can find meaning in their

experience are the survivors and the ones

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that thrive, the people that can't,

become victims, they go down.

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So if you go through life and you

want to be a victim of your history,

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not a master of your destiny,

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blame things on the outside or blame

yourself instead of look and balance the

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equation and find the blessings to the

curses, the upsides to the downsides,

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and balance the equation.

When you balance the equation,

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you liberate the mind from a whole bunch

of emotional baggage and you realize

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you're living in an acausal state.

There's no cause and effect out there.

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It's transcendent to that.

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And you're now not in this moral trap

that you can get yourself into living

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in fear and fantasies all your life.

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So no therapy is complete until

cause equals effect in space time.

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When you extract out space

and time from your mind,

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you enter into what the

theologians call the soul,

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the state of unconditional love for

life, and you're grateful for life.

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We're going to have perturbations and

perceptions that are being in volatile

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throughout our lives, if we can

learn to ask the right question.

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That's one of the reasons I teach

the Breakthrough Experience.

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I've been teaching the Breakthrough

Experience for over 35 years,

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helping people ask new sets of questions

to transform whatever they've got as

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their baggage into opportunity and fuel.

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Because if you do you don't have to weigh

yourself down with all the emotional

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baggage and label things either

positive or negative all the time,

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and be a victim of history. Take the

time to ask new set of questions,

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come to the Breakthrough Experience.

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Let me share with you series of questions

that I guarantee you liberate your

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life and free you from a whole

bunch of emotional baggage.

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Come and join me at the Breakthrough

Experience so I can teach you how to live

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acausally instead of being trapped

in the animal zoology of cause,

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separating from effect, perpetrator,

innocent victim, predator, prey,

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zoology.

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