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28 - FLOWS (Part 2): Research, Real-Life Tips, and a Flexible Roadmap to Feel-Good Food
Episode 2916th April 2025 • 1,000 Waking Minutes • Wendy Bazilian
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In this continuation of last week’s episode, we return to FLOWS — Fresh, Local, Organic, Whole, and Seasonal — not as a rigid rulebook, but as a flexible, feel-good philosophy to support your health in real life.

In Part 2, Dr. Wendy Bazilian explores the science behind FLOWS: how whole and fresh foods interact in the body, why texture and food form matter, and how patterns of eating can support long-term health and vitality. You’ll also hear personal reflections — from weekend crafts with her daughter to the story of a woman’s daily routine of collecting water in her bucket  — reminding us that nourishment isn’t just what’s on the plate, but also how we move through life.

You’ll also take away simple, practical ways to apply FLOWS in everyday moments — from grocery shopping to meal prep — and end with a calming Mindful Minute to carry this sense of flow into the rest of your waking minutes.

WE DISCUSS:

(1:47) A quick reminder of what FLOWS means — how it’s a framework, not a checklist

(7:47) A personal moment about “what flow means” from Wendy’s 6-year-old daughter

(11:05) The woman and the bucket of water

(15:44) Whole foods, nutrient bioavailability, and the food matrix

(19:41) Satiety, texture, and what helps manage hunger and blood sugar

(21:35) Dietary patterns and why what’s on the plate matters more than isolated nutrients

(25:15) Positive nutrition and the power of focusing on what to add over calories or avoiding

(28:38) A Mindful Minute 

(31:24) Practical tips for applying FLOWS at the store, in your kitchen, and dining out

(38:26) Final thoughts and a reminder that FLOWS is about rhythm, not rules

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There's a saying that the

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river doesn't complain about the

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rocks in its path, it

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simply flows around them.

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And that's a good reminder

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for us today as we

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continue exploring FLOWS, and how

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our daily choices can move

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with ease, even when things

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aren't perfect.

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In this episode, we'll look

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at what the research shows

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about these small choices, plus

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a few simple ways to

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bring FLOWS into your life

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each day.

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We experience 1,000 waking minutes

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on average every day.

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How are you spending yours?

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I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian, and

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you're listening to 1,000 Waking

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Minutes.

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I can't wait to connect

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with you here with practical

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ways to eat well, move

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daily and be healthy, to

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optimize every waking minute you

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live for a happier, healthier

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life.

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Thank you for sharing some

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of your waking minutes with

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me today.

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Let's get started.

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Hello and welcome back to

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1,000 Waking Minutes.

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I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian, and

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I'm really glad you're here

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with me today.

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If you're just joining, you're

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actually in the perfect place.

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And if you caught the

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first part of this conversation,

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well, you know what we're

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talking about today.

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And that's FLOWS.

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It's an idea of a

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flexible food philosophy.

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It's more of a rhythm,

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if you will.

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And it falls within eating

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well, eat well, move daily,

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be healthy is the name

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of the game.

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In the last episode about

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FLOWS, we explored what FLOWS

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stands for fresh, local, organic,

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whole, and seasonal.

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And maybe more importantly, what

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it feels like to flow.

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Because flow is not about

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perfection.

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It's about feeling guided, but

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not confined.

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And it's a little bit

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like having a road map,

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so to speak, but still

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enjoying the scenery along the

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way.

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So think of that.

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It's like the map, but

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you're allowed and you're able

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to look around and enjoy

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the scenery.

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And you might have even

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started to notice FLOWS showing

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up in your own life,

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maybe at the grocery store,

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noticing the berries that are

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actually starting to be in

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season, or just having a

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moment where you pause and

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think what's one small choice

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that I can make today

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that feels good within sort

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of the FLOWS philosophy.

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So I think about flow,

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not just in food, but

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in life.

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There's a psychologist who wrote

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an incredible book called FLOW.

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And his name is

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Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi.

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I'm sorry, I'll spell

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it out in the show

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notes for you.

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I've never been good at

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that name, but a beautiful

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name.

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He's a psychologist.

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And he talks about moments

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of flow, when we're completely

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immersed in what we're doing,

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when time almost slips away.

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And while he's not specifically

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talking about what's for dinner

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or food, in this case,

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I'm certain that there's a

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connection there.

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Those times when things seem

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to shift distractions fade away.

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And there's a sense of

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effortless momentum in life.

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That's flow.

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There's something about these moments.

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And when it comes to

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mealtime, when everything sort of

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comes together without overthinking it,

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you pull together what you

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have, it feels nourishing, you

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sit down and you eat

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maybe with a sense of

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ease instead of stress and

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like chaos that can be

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mealtime at times.

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And that's flow.

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It's a pretty great feeling

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if you've experienced before, and

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I'm sure you have.

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But maybe you haven't always

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paid attention or called it

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flow.

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Because let's be honest, we've

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all had exactly the opposite

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of that.

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I know I have days

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where meals feel rushed.

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Choices feel sort of like

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a chore at times.

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And we can get caught

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in the endless loop of

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what should I be eating?

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What should I avoid?

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What do I have in

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the refrigerator?

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All these micro decisions and

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choices in front of us.

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FLOWS really is about something

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to soften your internal dialogue

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there.

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It's not about getting every

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letter of FLOWS every time.

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It's about helping us sort

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of adopt a purposeful philosophy

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gently to guide you and

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to make food feel like

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a part of life's flow,

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part of it, instead of

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something you have to wrestle

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with.

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So today in part two

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of talking about FLOWS, I'm

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going to build on that

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foundation with you.

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F, fresh and flavorful.

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L, local and lovely.

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O, organic.

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W, whole, as in whole

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foods and whole grains.

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And S, seasonal, while also

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being satisfying and sustainable.

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Yes, for the planet, but

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also sustainable, something you can

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do ongoing.

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Flows, fresh, local, organic, whole,

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seasonal.

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So today we'll talk a

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little bit about the research

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because yes, there's actual science

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that sort of led me

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to this approach and some

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updates there that I think

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will be fun to share.

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We'll look at what happens

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when we choose whole foods

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and fresh foods, show how

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they work together in the

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body in ways that isolated

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nutrients don't or can't.

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The way that heavily processed

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foods just don't work the

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same at times.

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We'll talk a little bit

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about satiety, that good, satisfied

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feeling after a meal or

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as you're engaging in food.

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And even the exciting concept

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of the food matrix, something

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I love to talk about,

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not the matrix, the movie

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series or franchise, but it's

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almost as interesting as that,

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maybe more interesting.

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I'm going to put a

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hard line on that.

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The food matrix is just

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as interesting as the matrix

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movie franchise.

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I'll also share some practical

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tips because at the end

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of the day, to bring

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FLOWS into your life, I'm

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going to paint some scenarios

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that you might recognize, some

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moments at the store at

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home that you might wonder,

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you know, what's the right

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choice here for me?

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And of course, we'll take

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some time together to be

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in the moment, to carry

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the sense of flow beyond

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conversation and into your day.

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Before I get into the

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research, though, I wanted to

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share a little story.

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I've been thinking about this

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idea and when to share

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it for a long time.

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And, you know, since, well,

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I've been teaching this for,

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gosh, I have a handout

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probably that's back in the

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early 2000s with FLOWS, just

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FLOWS.

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And it said at the

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top, adopt a food philosophy

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that FLOWS and left it

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open so that when we

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used to use pen and

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paper more often, we had

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the opportunity to write it

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in with some notes.

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But anyway, I was thinking

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about this episode and planning

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for it and thinking about

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how FLOWS shows up, not

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just in science, but really

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in our everyday moments, as

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I mentioned.

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And I was having a

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conversation recently that really stayed

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with me.

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And this conversation was with

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my daughter, who's six years

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old.

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We were doing some crafts

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together.

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Sometimes on Saturday morning, we'll

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get up early.

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We'll sort of lay out

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a whole bunch of craft

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supplies and just sort of

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let our minds and hands

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meander after a long week.

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And so we were sitting

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there.

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It was like one of

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those wonderful, easy Saturday mornings.

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We were chit-chatting.

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And I asked her, what

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do you think FLOWS means?

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Or when you hear the

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word flow, what do you

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think of?

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So she thought for a

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second and her hands were

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twisting pipe cleaners.

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And without looking up, she

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said, "it's like water."

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It's so simple, so true.

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"It's like water," she said,

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something that actually FLOWS, something

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very tangible.

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And then she went back

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to doing her pipe cleaner.

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I think we were making

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flowers or something like that

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and making curly twists on

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a pen.

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But then I asked her,

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"well, then what's the opposite

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of flow?"

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And she seemed to give

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that a little more thought.

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And then she said, "well,

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maybe it's like not being

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okay with something."

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And that was the part

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of the statement that she

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said, and sort of had

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a little bit of a

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question mark on the end,

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if you know what I

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mean, like her voice lifted

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up as if she was

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both clear on it and

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checking in with me.

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And it really landed for

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me at that moment.

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I wasn't expecting not being

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okay with something to be

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the opposite of like, it's

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like water, the flow.

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And I was a little

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surprised.

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But as I thought about

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it, so much of what

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gets in our way is

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like that, not being okay

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with something, the feeling of

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resistance or feeling stuck, or

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not okay with how something

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is or not quite knowing

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how to navigate around or

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out of something as happens

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in life.

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And it happens also with

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food FLOWS is really about

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softening those moments and not

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forcing and not aiming to

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have a singular new and

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flexible approach, but allowing our

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choices to sort of unfold

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with a little more ease

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and to flow a little

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bit more like water.

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So I took that in

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my mind.

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And I've been thinking over

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the last many weeks and

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thinking about this episode.

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And as I was doing

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that and preparing and writing

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down some thoughts, and I

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thought about what my daughter

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said several times.

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And out of the blue,

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you know how we old

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stories, you sort of unearth

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them, or you remember them

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later.

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This is what happened.

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I was thinking about I

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was writing, I was like,

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Oh, my gosh, I remember

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a story, a fable of

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sorts.

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I've heard years ago, it

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just seems it just came

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to mind.

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And it seemed to be

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like seem to fit.

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It's something that I've always

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loved.

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So I took pause and

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sort of collected my thoughts

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on it.

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And I think that this

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actually captures the idea of

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FLOWS so well, too.

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So I wanted to share

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it with you briefly, not

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perfectly, it's out of my

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my recollection, and someone's read

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it to me, and probably

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people read it to them

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before.

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But there's an old story,

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a fable, and maybe you've

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heard of it, of a

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woman who walked to town

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every day to collect water.

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She carried her bucket faithfully

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down the hill to the

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well, filled her bucket up

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and proceeded to march back

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up the hill to supply

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her needs, her family's needs.

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But over time, the bucket

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developed a small hole, just

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a little hole.

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And day after day, as

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she passed other people going

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up and down the same

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hill, water trickled out in

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small drips along her path,

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until the point where other

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people were noticing that she

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was wasting or losing some

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of her hard earned work

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in that bucket.

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And it seemed like almost

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wasted effort to others, all

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that water lost before she

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even got home.

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But one day she noticed

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something beautiful.

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Along that path where the

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water had spilled, flowers had

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started blooming without even realizing

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it.

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I always get emotional at

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stories like this.

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Are you with me?

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I'm sure that there's some

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fellow sympaths or empaths or

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whatever this is, but without

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even realizing it, her daily

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effort, even though it felt

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imperfect, it looked imperfect, it

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was consistent, and it had

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been nourishing the earth along

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her way.

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It was making the path

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beautiful for her and her

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community.

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And that's really, to me,

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what FLOWS is about.

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Also, it's not about getting

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everything perfectly.

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It's not even about having,

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you know, all the exact

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right tools to make it

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happen.

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But it's about daily effort,

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simple practices to nourish ourselves,

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even if the path or

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our tools like the bucket

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aren't perfect.

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Because these are the small,

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steady choices we make every

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day that add up.

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They're watering the path that

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we're on.

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They're quietly supporting our health,

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our well-being.

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And sometimes, in a way,

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we don't even see that

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right away.

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We don't even see the

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results, the outcomes that add

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up over time until one

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day, things blossom and we're

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aware.

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And actually, that's where I

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want to take us today.

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So what does the research

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say about these small daily

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efforts?

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What's the return on investment,

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as I call them, the

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ROI of FLOWS?

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What's blooming beneath the surface

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when we follow this kind

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of approach to eating and

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living?

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So returns on investment, to

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accomplish any goal, we need

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a plan in life.

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Teachers make lesson plans, architects

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draw building plans, pilots make

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flight plans.

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I'm sure you can name

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some others.

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In business, think about that.

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Strategic planning keeps teams and

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workers, worker bees, the me's

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and you's of the world

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in sync.

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And it points us all

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toward that positive outcome, toward

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the goal and the task

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at hand.

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So our FLOWS philosophy is

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a plan with a similar

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end or similar benefit.

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By following your own roadmap,

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by checking in with yourself,

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whether something's fresh, local, organic,

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whole, seasonal, not all of

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the above all the time,

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but some of the above

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most of the time, and

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the associated terms that go

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with it, as we talked

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about flavorful with F also,

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satisfying with S also, you

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can start to streamline your

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decisions about your food choices.

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And you can have a

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template to drive your self

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-awareness, keep you on track,

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and keep you in the

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spirit and mindset of FLOWS,

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which is such a nice

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term, I think, about thinking

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about how we can move

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through life.

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So let's take a look

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at those ROIs, the benefits,

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so to speak, of FLOWS.

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And of course, they're not

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financial, although they may feel

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like it, because you may

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gain life and vitality.

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And I think that that's

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almost like a financial win.

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But it's the kind that

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matters really deeply to our

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energy, our vitality, and how

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we feel our minutes of

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our daily life as we

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live them.

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These are the benefits that

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show up in small ways,

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and sometimes surprising ways, mind

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you, when we follow a

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path that's fresh, local, organic,

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whole, and seasonal.

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So here are just a

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few of the ROIs and

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benefits that the research supports.

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So number one, we can

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get better nutrient absorption, bioavailability,

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better nutrition overall, thanks to

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the food matrix.

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So there's that word again.

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When we eat, it's not

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just about the nutrients, like

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just making sure that you

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tick the boxes on nutrients,

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or the nutrient facts label.

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Those are important if you're

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reading packaged foods to maximize

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the quality, along with the

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nutrition.

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But it's about how our

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bodies actually use them.

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You know, reading with our

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mind or digesting the information

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is not the same as

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how we digest the food

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and the nutrition.

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Researchers from Chile, these are

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researchers from different studies from

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Chile and France, have shown

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that nutrients in foods like

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fruits and vegetables and whole

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grains are better absorbed and

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used by the body when

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they're eaten in like their

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natural form.

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They may be minimally processed,

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or they may be cooked,

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but the more toward the

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food matrix form, the whole

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form, they do better.

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Our body assimilates them better.

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In the Chilean study that

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I mentioned, Dr. Aguilera emphasized

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how the physical and chemical

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structure of foods, like fiber

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and vegetables or protein lipid

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bonds in dairy, how those

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can enhance the bioavailability of

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different nutrients.

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They can help slow digestion

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in a beneficial way.

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And meanwhile, French researchers Fardet

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and Rock have done extensive

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work, many, many published papers

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looking beyond nutrients to the

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food matrix and a holistic

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look at foods and food

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patterns beyond the nutrients themselves,

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the way our food is

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naturally structured and the benefits

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on its health they've looked

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at.

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So in one of their

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more recent papers, they propose

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that it's not just about

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those individual key nutrients or

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the calorie count, but really

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the integrity of the food

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itself that matters most.

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They explained that the natural

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food matrix can be degraded,

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like with heavy processing.

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So they talk about the

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ultra, ultra processing and heavy

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processing, and that we can

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lose some important health benefits,

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such as better nutrient absorption,

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or some of the benefits

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that would help us feel

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more satisfied, the satiation effects

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of certain foods, and even

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lose some of the blood

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sugar regulating effects of foods

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in their more matrix or

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full form.

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And they even introduce a

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concept called the 3-V

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index, which describes the value

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of foods that are real

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and plant-based and varied.

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And as they put it,

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and this is in quotes,

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the calorie quality matters more

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than the calorie quantity.

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I thought that was an

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interesting way of putting it

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so we could appreciate it,

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that the calories, the energy

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that comes from it, but

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the calorie quality matters more

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than the calorie quantity.

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And they also posit that

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foods really aren't like drugs

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where isolated ingredients alone can

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solve an issue or target

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something in the pathway.

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It is really the whole

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structure of the food that

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makes the difference.

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So it's not a stretch

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to understand really that when

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we disrupt the structure of

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a food through heavy processing,

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we can break the flow

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literally and figuratively.

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So choosing whole, that W,

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and minimally processed food, like

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in FLOWS, choosing fresh when

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it makes sense, helps us

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get the full benefit of

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the nutrition that mother nature

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intended.

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So benefit number two is

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about satiety and metabolic support.

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So the texture, the form,

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and our real fullness, how

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we can be impacted by

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FLOWS.

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So if you've ever wondered

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why chewing a crunchy carrot

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seems more filling than sipping

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a smoothie, we have research

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from wagging, and I have

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a lot of wordplay in

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this episode, and it's incredible,

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Agriculture University, and I always

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trip on the name, Wageningen

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University in the Netherlands, and

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they found that food form

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matters, and it matters a

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lot.

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In one major review from

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the Netherlands, they analyzed experimental

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studies showing that solid foods

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with more intact structures, like

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whole vegetables, grains, and legumes,

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think fresh and think it

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was the local and think

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of the whole and maybe

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seasonal, they slow the rate

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of eating, they can promote

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earlier fullness, and they can

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even help regulate blood sugar

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even more effectively than soft

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or liquid forms.

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So the textures naturally enhance

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satiety signals, they slow us

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down, they help contribute to

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healthier metabolic outcomes, and this

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is independent of calorie count

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or the macronutrient breakdown.

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The macronutrients are your carbs,

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fats, protein, the key macronutrients

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in our diet.

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So this is really the

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power of foods form, you

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know, and FLOWS encourages us

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toward fresh and whole foods,

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not just because they're nutritious,

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but because they help our

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bodies respond in real time.

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It sort of honors our

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hunger and satiety cues and

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helps us keep feeling good

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as a result of the

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foods that we choose and

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how we eat.

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So the third benefit is

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that whole dietary patterns, not

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just individual foods or even

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individual meals, but whole dietary

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patterns can improve health outcomes.

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That's like the long-term

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benefit and impact of how

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we choose our food now,

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today, at this meal, and

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this afternoon, and this evening,

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and tomorrow.

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So instead of the focus

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on sort of cutting a

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macronutrient, like cutting carbs, or

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even of counting calories, which

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is a little bit out

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of fashion, but people still

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keep an eye on calories,

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what if we focused on

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the pattern of what's on

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the plate?

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In a global symposium a

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couple years ago that was

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held in Washington, D.C.,

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and a paper came out

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of it from Dr. Martini

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from the University of Milan,

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from Dr. Mattis from Purdue

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University, from researchers out of

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Baylor and Leeds, and a

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university in Salvador, Bahia in

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Brazil.

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The message here was clear,

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that public health guidance is

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really shifting from those isolated

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nutrients to whole dietary patterns

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and their impact on health.

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So while it's important to

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know what a nutrient does,

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how it functions, what we

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might be deficient in, really

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the impact on whole health

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and on health promotion really

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depends on whole dietary patterns.

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And research, our population research,

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and what we're finding is

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that that really does matter.

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The evidence has pointed and

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shown that.

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So the work from the

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symposium really encouraged us to

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really think about the meals

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as a sum of their

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parts into other meals, and

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emphasizing variety and quality and

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the cultural relevance over specific

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numbers at any given single

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meal.

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So this was really important.

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Then in tandem with that,

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a review in 2022 that

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was published in the European

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Journal of Internal Medicine explored

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how nutrition and lifestyle changes

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influence our health overall.

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And these findings were really

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powerful, and they sort of

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underscore some of the information

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I've shared in other episodes,

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that healthy eating patterns like

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the Mediterranean diet, there we

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go again, can make a

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real difference.

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They can help as a

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pattern lower the risk of

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chronic diseases, support heart health,

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boost life expectancy, or help

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us with vital longevity.

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And they do so by

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the combination of their natural

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anti-inflammatory nature and antioxidant

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properties.

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They focus toward getting some

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total of better fiber, fruits

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and vegetables, and sort of

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steering and veering away from

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the, again, ultra-processed, not

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just processed because processing is

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a normal part of how

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we treat our food to

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get it ready to eat,

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but the ultra-processed, highly,

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highly processed foods.

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So veering away from that.

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This way of eating, this

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pattern of eating has shown

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to help reduce sort of

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systemic or chronic inflammation and

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keep the immune system healthy

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and supported over time.

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So together, these studies and

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these types of studies, these

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are just a couple, show

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the power of how we

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eat really, how we eat,

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not just what we eat

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is relevant.

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And FLOWS gives us a

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simple way to approach those

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patterns, building your meals with

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at least two of the

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FLOWS elements in mind.

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And if you get to

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there, you're on the right

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track and you can feel

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good about how you're eating

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toward a well-lived and

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well-nourished day and life.

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So another benefit I want

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to share with you, and

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this is one of the

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most encouraging shifts in modern

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nutrition is focusing not on

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what to cut or restrict,

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but what to add.

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I have been talking about

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this since the start of

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my career.

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And similarly, in the symposium

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that I mentioned just a

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moment ago about patterns, the

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collective summary, really the researchers

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came back to multiple times,

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but the summary came back

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to the move toward positive

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nutrition.

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Isn't that positive?

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Isn't that optimistic?

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Isn't that wonderful?

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But that there's evidence to

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support that the foods on

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the plate matter at least

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as much, if not more

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than things that you're trying

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to restrict and highlighting foods

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that not only support health,

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but joy, enjoyment, nourishment in

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the broader sense, rather than

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avoiding harm or limiting foods

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because you don't want to

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get something, but putting positive

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spins and not spins.

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I mean, literally making your

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plate spin with healthy nutrition.

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And the takeaway again, was

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super clear that people are

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more likely to thrive when

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they're offered flexible frameworks.

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And hopefully FLOWS will give

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you that.

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We know that instead of

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rigid rules, it offers that

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not about that you hit

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every letter at every meal,

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but it's about a mindset,

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fresh, local, organic, whole, and

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seasonal.

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And I talk about that

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in part one, in the

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episode that preceded this, of

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using this as a guidepost,

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not as an absolute.

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It's something that you just

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sort of must meditate on.

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It's a way to navigate

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your day when you're looking

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at your food choices.

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And ultimately to bring this

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all back into flow, FLOWS

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gives you freedom.

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Psychologists at the Masi Kampo

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lab at Wake Forest showed

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that having specific plans for

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a goal and free up

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some mental space, um, it

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allows you room for other

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pursuits in effect.

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So in addition to helping

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us make healthier food choices,

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the FLOWS acronym guide roadmap

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that allows you to enjoy

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the scenery can let us

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have room for other beneficial

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stuff, other great things on

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the eat well, move daily,

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be healthy journey, other ways

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to maximize our waking minutes

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each day.

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And once FLOWS becomes more

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of an unconscious habit for

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you, you might find that

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you can actually stop focusing

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so much on it and

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make room for other health

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enhancing tools and approaches as

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well.

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So whether it's improving how

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we absorb the nutrients, how

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full and balanced we feel,

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how we nourish our bodies

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over time, or how empowered

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we feel in our choices,

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FLOWS is not a rigid

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rule book.

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It's really about the rhythm

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of our meals that work

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through our days, the rhythm

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of the meals that may

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turn into snacks and may

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then turn into movement and

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then may turn into rest.

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It's a way to gently

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guide your meals and your

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snacks through the lens of

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possibility and nourishment.

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So now let's take a

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pause, a moment to reflect,

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not just on our food,

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but maybe on how we

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move through our waking minutes.

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And we're going to share

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a Mindful Minute together, as

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we often do in episodes,

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especially after we just took

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on a lot of research

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and things to think about.

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We want to get back

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into flow.

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So first, find a comfortable

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position, put your feet connected

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to the ground in some

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way.

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You could do this standing,

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but if you're seated, your

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feet flat on the ground,

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your legs uncrossed, rest your

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hands gently in your lap,

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soften your gaze.

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If you choose to or

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wish to, you can close

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your eyes.

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And before we begin our

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Mindful Minute together, let's take

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one steady grounding breath.

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So we'll inhale deeply through

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our nose, exhale through your

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mouth.

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As we settle into our

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mindful minute together, I invite

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you to let the word

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FLOWS, drift through your mind

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like a gentle current about

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the guides our breath.

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Okay, let's begin.

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As you breathe in, think

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of F for fresh and

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flavorful.

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Imagine the vitality of the

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food straight from nature.

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As you exhale, bring to

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mind L for local.

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Feel the connection to your

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surroundings, community, the soil.

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Inhale, think of O for

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organic.

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Mother nature's pure expression, food

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grown with care.

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Think of the farmers.

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Exhale, reflect on W for

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whole.

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Whole foods, whole grains, visualize

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foods in their whole form.

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Intact, nourishing.

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And finally, breathe in for

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S for seasonal, sustainable, satisfying.

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And there you have it.

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We can picture the rhythm

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of the seasons, the harmony

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of FLOWS, how it's something

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that we can have together.

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And it's one small moment,

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one minute that we shared

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together of breathing together as

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well.

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Thank you for sharing that

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Mindful Minute with me.

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So how do we put

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FLOWS into action in our

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everyday lives?

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In the first episode of

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FLOWS, part one, I shared

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a couple of ways to

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start thinking about it.

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And I want to build

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on that here with some

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clear, simple steps and maybe

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some scenarios that you can

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carry into your week.

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So maybe you've already begun

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to use FLOWS, the acronym,

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as a lens through which

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you look at your meals

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and your menus.

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And I encourage you to

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use it as a fluid

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yet conscious approach toward nourishing

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your body during our waking

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minutes each day.

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So we talked today again

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about how FLOWS gives us

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like a flexible framework.

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And it's not just a

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checklist to follow perfectly, but

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rather a guide that helps

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us like a map where

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we can then check out

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the scenery along the way.

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So remember what I said

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in the first episode.

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And I'm going to say

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it again here in case

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you forgot or haven't heard

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that one yet.

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But print out or post

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the word FLOWS as a

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reminder.

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Set it on your calendar.

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Ping you around meal times.

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Maybe set a little ping

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or notification of sorts.

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Or when you're planning your

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grocery shopping, maybe put it

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at the top of the

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list so you see FLOWS

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before you see the other

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things on your list.

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And in general, aim to

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get two or more of

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the FLOWS met at each

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meal or snack.

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So let's imagine just a

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few real life scenarios where

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FLOWS can sort of quietly

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step in and help.

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First, the grocery store.

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We've all been there when

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we're after a full day,

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you have to get to

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the grocery store.

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Or on a weekend day,

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maybe you have to fit

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it in between activities.

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Sometimes you might be standing

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there in front of the

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produce section, and maybe your

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energy and focus are fading

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a little bit.

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You know the feeling.

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We've all been there.

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I know this inherently.

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And instead of overthinking every

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choice, just let FLOWS gently

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guide you as you look

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at choices that you're selecting

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off your list or off

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the shelves.

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For example, you spot some

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apples.

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Well, maybe there's a sign

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up there.

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There's choices.

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There's so many types of

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apples these days.

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But maybe there's a sign

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up there.

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Obviously, right there, they're fresh,

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which is great.

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Maybe there's a sign that

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says local, local apples.

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You know, we're moving into

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that season.

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That would be also your

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L.

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Without making it like a

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quiz or a checklist, just

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let FLOWS sort of point

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in the direction, make the

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decision and be done.

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Next, bring it into your

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own kitchen.

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Maybe it's lunchtime and you're

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staring in the fridge or

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pantry wondering what to put

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together.

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Maybe you've grabbed a pack

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of this and maybe one

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of that.

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But FLOWS can be a

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great tool here too.

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You can scan and maybe

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see a can of organic

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beans in the pantry.

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Maybe you can go to

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the refrigerator, you see some

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fresh greens, maybe see a

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lemon in your fruit bowl

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and you can put them

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all together and make a

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nice salad.

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You've got your O for

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organic in the beans, you've

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got your F for fresh

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in what you've taken out

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of the refrigerator and out

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of the fruit bowl.

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And with the beans and

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greens, you're also hitting the

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W, the whole food.

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So this doesn't have to

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be like fancy.

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It just needs to flow

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from what you have and

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where you're at.

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It FLOWS in the action

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of it too, right there

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in your own kitchen.

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And more broadly, I like

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to think of FLOWS like

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that.

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Like think of FLOWS like

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a river that's moving through

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its course.

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When you look at a

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river, it FLOWS around and

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over the rocks and pebbles.

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It doesn't see them as

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barriers.

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In fact, they shape the

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water's path, those rocks and

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pebbles, giving it character and

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energy.

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So sometimes the little bumps

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or obstacles actually help guide

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the flow to something even

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more beautiful.

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And our days and our

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choices, our meals and our

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snacks can all be like

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that too.

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We might not have the

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perfect conditions every day, but

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we can still move or

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flow and move with the

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flow and not against it.

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Another way to live FLOWS

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through planning is by not

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making it complicated when it

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comes to thinking about the

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season or thinking about what's

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going to be on your

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menu.

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If you're curious about how

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to do more local or

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seasonal in the area that

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you live or that's sort

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of newer to you, or

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maybe it's just a check

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-in.

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Aha, it's springtime.

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I forgot.

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Let me get in touch

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with the CSAs, the community

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-supported agriculture.

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And I certainly encourage you

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to do that.

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Many local farms offer seasonal

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boxes of produce and you

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literally help support the local

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small farmers to bring you

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fresh local food right to

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your doorstep or nearby pickup

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on a weekly basis or

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every other week.

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There's a simple way to

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find a CSA in your

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area.

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I'll be doing an episode

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on farmers markets and CSA

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soon, but you can go

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to localharvest.org and you

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can enter your zip code

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and you can find opportunities

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there.

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So even there's some resources

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there to make it easier

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for you to live the

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local and the seasonal a

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little bit easier.

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And it's a beautiful way

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also to let the season

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sort of guide our meals

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naturally and a simple way

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to invite FLOWS into your

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home one box at a

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time.

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And finally, I encourage you

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to keep FLOWS in your

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mind even when you're dining

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out or traveling.

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You might not have full

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control over the menu and

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that's totally fine and it

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can be fun, but you

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can still look for the

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options and sort of feel

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aligned.

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Maybe it's a dish that

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highlights seasonal ingredients or something

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that's built around whole fresh

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foods.

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So FLOWS can be about

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progress and not doing all

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things all the time or

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all at once.

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Even noticing one element can

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sort of set you in

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the momentum and can help

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you feel connected to your

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health goals.

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It's all about creating the

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flow and remembering again that

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FLOWS is not about all

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five letters at every meal.

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It might be even rare

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that you hit all five

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letters at a meal, but

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it is about movement and

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it's about creating milestones along

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the way and eating the

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patterns, recognizing that eating in

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patterns can be nutritive and

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nourishing and beneficial for your

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health.

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Even one mindful choice can

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make you feel like you're

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back in the flow if

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you feel like you've stepped

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out.

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And remember that those rocks

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and pebbles can actually help

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create the path as well.

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So it's a rhythm and

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I think that's important for

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us to continue to remember.

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So as you think about

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your day ahead, even the

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next meal, remember FLOWS.

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Keep in mind the fresh,

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the local, organic, whole, seasonal.

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Even noticing one or two,

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aim for two, along the

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way can make the whole

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experience better.

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It could be a moment

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at the market when you

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choose something.

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It can be the whole

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ingredient in your pantry.

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It might be just a

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simple act of pausing to

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consider, does this flow?

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Is the choice that I'm

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making, does it feel good?

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Does it help ground me?

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Does it nourish me?

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So today in sum, we've

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explored a few ways that

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FLOWS can support our health

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and wellbeing by looking at

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some of the science that

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sort of substantiates or support

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or sort of was a

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springboard to me sort of

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finding my flow about FLOWS

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from the whole fresh foods

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and how they work together

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in the body, how structure,

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the form and flexibly support

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us, not just nutritionally, but

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also mentally and how FLOWS

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can help us feel more

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present and empowered in our

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daily choices.

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And we discovered that FLOWS

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isn't just a nice idea.

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The research really does back

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it up.

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How choosing whole fresh foods

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can help our bodies absorb

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nutrients better, how the textures

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and forms can help support

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fullness and metabolic health, the

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real deal, and how it

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can free up mental space,

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give us some freedom to

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make other nourishing choices in

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the eat well, move daily,

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be healthy choices and practices

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in a well-lived life.

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And of course, we wrapped

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with some practical tips to

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get into the flow.

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And I had to get

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into the flow.

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You heard me say it

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pun intended.

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So that's the episode for

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today of 1,000 Waking Minutes.

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I'm Wendy Bazilian, your podcast

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friend, and your health supporter.

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And we're on this journey

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together toward a well-lived

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life.

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I think that our 1,000

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waking minutes are our life's

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currency.

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And it's a great equalizer

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among us.

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And if you like this

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episode or found something meaningful

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in it, I hope you

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will write to me and

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It really does help us

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And I hope that what

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I bring to you can

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help us grow our community

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and make it vibrant.

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You can always leave a

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or email me at one

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So as we close, I

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leave you with this thought,

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just like the river FLOWS

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around the rocks in its

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path.

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It's gentle, it's persistent.

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We can also move through

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our days with that same

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grace, the rocks don't disappear,

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but we find our way

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around them.

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That's the power of flow.

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And until next time, be

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well, thank you for tuning

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production and marketing teams, and

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Gabriela Escalante in particular, to

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the ultra talented Beza for

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my theme music, my lifelong

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friend and artist Pearl Preis

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photography and design, to Danielle

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Ballantyne, Jen Nguyen, Joanna Powell,

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and of course my family,

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and everyone working tirelessly behind

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the scenes.

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And to you, our valued

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listeners, I so appreciate your

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support.

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