In this continuation of last week’s episode, we return to FLOWS — Fresh, Local, Organic, Whole, and Seasonal — not as a rigid rulebook, but as a flexible, feel-good philosophy to support your health in real life.
In Part 2, Dr. Wendy Bazilian explores the science behind FLOWS: how whole and fresh foods interact in the body, why texture and food form matter, and how patterns of eating can support long-term health and vitality. You’ll also hear personal reflections — from weekend crafts with her daughter to the story of a woman’s daily routine of collecting water in her bucket — reminding us that nourishment isn’t just what’s on the plate, but also how we move through life.
You’ll also take away simple, practical ways to apply FLOWS in everyday moments — from grocery shopping to meal prep — and end with a calming Mindful Minute to carry this sense of flow into the rest of your waking minutes.
(1:47) A quick reminder of what FLOWS means — how it’s a framework, not a checklist
(7:47) A personal moment about “what flow means” from Wendy’s 6-year-old daughter
(11:05) The woman and the bucket of water
(15:44) Whole foods, nutrient bioavailability, and the food matrix
(19:41) Satiety, texture, and what helps manage hunger and blood sugar
(21:35) Dietary patterns and why what’s on the plate matters more than isolated nutrients
(25:15) Positive nutrition and the power of focusing on what to add over calories or avoiding
(28:38) A Mindful Minute
(31:24) Practical tips for applying FLOWS at the store, in your kitchen, and dining out
(38:26) Final thoughts and a reminder that FLOWS is about rhythm, not rules
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There's a saying that the
Speaker:river doesn't complain about the
Speaker:rocks in its path, it
Speaker:simply flows around them.
Speaker:And that's a good reminder
Speaker:for us today as we
Speaker:continue exploring FLOWS, and how
Speaker:our daily choices can move
Speaker:with ease, even when things
Speaker:aren't perfect.
Speaker:In this episode, we'll look
Speaker:at what the research shows
Speaker:about these small choices, plus
Speaker:a few simple ways to
Speaker:bring FLOWS into your life
Speaker:each day.
Speaker:We experience 1,000 waking minutes
Speaker:on average every day.
Speaker:How are you spending yours?
Speaker:I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian, and
Speaker:you're listening to 1,000 Waking
Speaker:Minutes.
Speaker:I can't wait to connect
Speaker:with you here with practical
Speaker:ways to eat well, move
Speaker:daily and be healthy, to
Speaker:optimize every waking minute you
Speaker:live for a happier, healthier
Speaker:life.
Speaker:Thank you for sharing some
Speaker:of your waking minutes with
Speaker:me today.
Speaker:Let's get started.
Speaker:Hello and welcome back to
Speaker:1,000 Waking Minutes.
Speaker:I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian, and
Speaker:I'm really glad you're here
Speaker:with me today.
Speaker:If you're just joining, you're
Speaker:actually in the perfect place.
Speaker:And if you caught the
Speaker:first part of this conversation,
Speaker:well, you know what we're
Speaker:talking about today.
Speaker:And that's FLOWS.
Speaker:It's an idea of a
Speaker:flexible food philosophy.
Speaker:It's more of a rhythm,
Speaker:if you will.
Speaker:And it falls within eating
Speaker:well, eat well, move daily,
Speaker:be healthy is the name
Speaker:of the game.
Speaker:In the last episode about
Speaker:FLOWS, we explored what FLOWS
Speaker:stands for fresh, local, organic,
Speaker:whole, and seasonal.
Speaker:And maybe more importantly, what
Speaker:it feels like to flow.
Speaker:Because flow is not about
Speaker:perfection.
Speaker:It's about feeling guided, but
Speaker:not confined.
Speaker:And it's a little bit
Speaker:like having a road map,
Speaker:so to speak, but still
Speaker:enjoying the scenery along the
Speaker:way.
Speaker:So think of that.
Speaker:It's like the map, but
Speaker:you're allowed and you're able
Speaker:to look around and enjoy
Speaker:the scenery.
Speaker:And you might have even
Speaker:started to notice FLOWS showing
Speaker:up in your own life,
Speaker:maybe at the grocery store,
Speaker:noticing the berries that are
Speaker:actually starting to be in
Speaker:season, or just having a
Speaker:moment where you pause and
Speaker:think what's one small choice
Speaker:that I can make today
Speaker:that feels good within sort
Speaker:of the FLOWS philosophy.
Speaker:So I think about flow,
Speaker:not just in food, but
Speaker:in life.
Speaker:There's a psychologist who wrote
Speaker:an incredible book called FLOW.
Speaker:And his name is
Speaker:Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi.
Speaker:I'm sorry, I'll spell
Speaker:it out in the show
Speaker:notes for you.
Speaker:I've never been good at
Speaker:that name, but a beautiful
Speaker:name.
Speaker:He's a psychologist.
Speaker:And he talks about moments
Speaker:of flow, when we're completely
Speaker:immersed in what we're doing,
Speaker:when time almost slips away.
Speaker:And while he's not specifically
Speaker:talking about what's for dinner
Speaker:or food, in this case,
Speaker:I'm certain that there's a
Speaker:connection there.
Speaker:Those times when things seem
Speaker:to shift distractions fade away.
Speaker:And there's a sense of
Speaker:effortless momentum in life.
Speaker:That's flow.
Speaker:There's something about these moments.
Speaker:And when it comes to
Speaker:mealtime, when everything sort of
Speaker:comes together without overthinking it,
Speaker:you pull together what you
Speaker:have, it feels nourishing, you
Speaker:sit down and you eat
Speaker:maybe with a sense of
Speaker:ease instead of stress and
Speaker:like chaos that can be
Speaker:mealtime at times.
Speaker:And that's flow.
Speaker:It's a pretty great feeling
Speaker:if you've experienced before, and
Speaker:I'm sure you have.
Speaker:But maybe you haven't always
Speaker:paid attention or called it
Speaker:flow.
Speaker:Because let's be honest, we've
Speaker:all had exactly the opposite
Speaker:of that.
Speaker:I know I have days
Speaker:where meals feel rushed.
Speaker:Choices feel sort of like
Speaker:a chore at times.
Speaker:And we can get caught
Speaker:in the endless loop of
Speaker:what should I be eating?
Speaker:What should I avoid?
Speaker:What do I have in
Speaker:the refrigerator?
Speaker:All these micro decisions and
Speaker:choices in front of us.
Speaker:FLOWS really is about something
Speaker:to soften your internal dialogue
Speaker:there.
Speaker:It's not about getting every
Speaker:letter of FLOWS every time.
Speaker:It's about helping us sort
Speaker:of adopt a purposeful philosophy
Speaker:gently to guide you and
Speaker:to make food feel like
Speaker:a part of life's flow,
Speaker:part of it, instead of
Speaker:something you have to wrestle
Speaker:with.
Speaker:So today in part two
Speaker:of talking about FLOWS, I'm
Speaker:going to build on that
Speaker:foundation with you.
Speaker:F, fresh and flavorful.
Speaker:L, local and lovely.
Speaker:O, organic.
Speaker:W, whole, as in whole
Speaker:foods and whole grains.
Speaker:And S, seasonal, while also
Speaker:being satisfying and sustainable.
Speaker:Yes, for the planet, but
Speaker:also sustainable, something you can
Speaker:do ongoing.
Speaker:Flows, fresh, local, organic, whole,
Speaker:seasonal.
Speaker:So today we'll talk a
Speaker:little bit about the research
Speaker:because yes, there's actual science
Speaker:that sort of led me
Speaker:to this approach and some
Speaker:updates there that I think
Speaker:will be fun to share.
Speaker:We'll look at what happens
Speaker:when we choose whole foods
Speaker:and fresh foods, show how
Speaker:they work together in the
Speaker:body in ways that isolated
Speaker:nutrients don't or can't.
Speaker:The way that heavily processed
Speaker:foods just don't work the
Speaker:same at times.
Speaker:We'll talk a little bit
Speaker:about satiety, that good, satisfied
Speaker:feeling after a meal or
Speaker:as you're engaging in food.
Speaker:And even the exciting concept
Speaker:of the food matrix, something
Speaker:I love to talk about,
Speaker:not the matrix, the movie
Speaker:series or franchise, but it's
Speaker:almost as interesting as that,
Speaker:maybe more interesting.
Speaker:I'm going to put a
Speaker:hard line on that.
Speaker:The food matrix is just
Speaker:as interesting as the matrix
Speaker:movie franchise.
Speaker:I'll also share some practical
Speaker:tips because at the end
Speaker:of the day, to bring
Speaker:FLOWS into your life, I'm
Speaker:going to paint some scenarios
Speaker:that you might recognize, some
Speaker:moments at the store at
Speaker:home that you might wonder,
Speaker:you know, what's the right
Speaker:choice here for me?
Speaker:And of course, we'll take
Speaker:some time together to be
Speaker:in the moment, to carry
Speaker:the sense of flow beyond
Speaker:conversation and into your day.
Speaker:Before I get into the
Speaker:research, though, I wanted to
Speaker:share a little story.
Speaker:I've been thinking about this
Speaker:idea and when to share
Speaker:it for a long time.
Speaker:And, you know, since, well,
Speaker:I've been teaching this for,
Speaker:gosh, I have a handout
Speaker:probably that's back in the
Speaker:early 2000s with FLOWS, just
Speaker:FLOWS.
Speaker:And it said at the
Speaker:top, adopt a food philosophy
Speaker:that FLOWS and left it
Speaker:open so that when we
Speaker:used to use pen and
Speaker:paper more often, we had
Speaker:the opportunity to write it
Speaker:in with some notes.
Speaker:But anyway, I was thinking
Speaker:about this episode and planning
Speaker:for it and thinking about
Speaker:how FLOWS shows up, not
Speaker:just in science, but really
Speaker:in our everyday moments, as
Speaker:I mentioned.
Speaker:And I was having a
Speaker:conversation recently that really stayed
Speaker:with me.
Speaker:And this conversation was with
Speaker:my daughter, who's six years
Speaker:old.
Speaker:We were doing some crafts
Speaker:together.
Speaker:Sometimes on Saturday morning, we'll
Speaker:get up early.
Speaker:We'll sort of lay out
Speaker:a whole bunch of craft
Speaker:supplies and just sort of
Speaker:let our minds and hands
Speaker:meander after a long week.
Speaker:And so we were sitting
Speaker:there.
Speaker:It was like one of
Speaker:those wonderful, easy Saturday mornings.
Speaker:We were chit-chatting.
Speaker:And I asked her, what
Speaker:do you think FLOWS means?
Speaker:Or when you hear the
Speaker:word flow, what do you
Speaker:think of?
Speaker:So she thought for a
Speaker:second and her hands were
Speaker:twisting pipe cleaners.
Speaker:And without looking up, she
Speaker:said, "it's like water."
Speaker:It's so simple, so true.
Speaker:"It's like water," she said,
Speaker:something that actually FLOWS, something
Speaker:very tangible.
Speaker:And then she went back
Speaker:to doing her pipe cleaner.
Speaker:I think we were making
Speaker:flowers or something like that
Speaker:and making curly twists on
Speaker:a pen.
Speaker:But then I asked her,
Speaker:"well, then what's the opposite
Speaker:of flow?"
Speaker:And she seemed to give
Speaker:that a little more thought.
Speaker:And then she said, "well,
Speaker:maybe it's like not being
Speaker:okay with something."
Speaker:And that was the part
Speaker:of the statement that she
Speaker:said, and sort of had
Speaker:a little bit of a
Speaker:question mark on the end,
Speaker:if you know what I
Speaker:mean, like her voice lifted
Speaker:up as if she was
Speaker:both clear on it and
Speaker:checking in with me.
Speaker:And it really landed for
Speaker:me at that moment.
Speaker:I wasn't expecting not being
Speaker:okay with something to be
Speaker:the opposite of like, it's
Speaker:like water, the flow.
Speaker:And I was a little
Speaker:surprised.
Speaker:But as I thought about
Speaker:it, so much of what
Speaker:gets in our way is
Speaker:like that, not being okay
Speaker:with something, the feeling of
Speaker:resistance or feeling stuck, or
Speaker:not okay with how something
Speaker:is or not quite knowing
Speaker:how to navigate around or
Speaker:out of something as happens
Speaker:in life.
Speaker:And it happens also with
Speaker:food FLOWS is really about
Speaker:softening those moments and not
Speaker:forcing and not aiming to
Speaker:have a singular new and
Speaker:flexible approach, but allowing our
Speaker:choices to sort of unfold
Speaker:with a little more ease
Speaker:and to flow a little
Speaker:bit more like water.
Speaker:So I took that in
Speaker:my mind.
Speaker:And I've been thinking over
Speaker:the last many weeks and
Speaker:thinking about this episode.
Speaker:And as I was doing
Speaker:that and preparing and writing
Speaker:down some thoughts, and I
Speaker:thought about what my daughter
Speaker:said several times.
Speaker:And out of the blue,
Speaker:you know how we old
Speaker:stories, you sort of unearth
Speaker:them, or you remember them
Speaker:later.
Speaker:This is what happened.
Speaker:I was thinking about I
Speaker:was writing, I was like,
Speaker:Oh, my gosh, I remember
Speaker:a story, a fable of
Speaker:sorts.
Speaker:I've heard years ago, it
Speaker:just seems it just came
Speaker:to mind.
Speaker:And it seemed to be
Speaker:like seem to fit.
Speaker:It's something that I've always
Speaker:loved.
Speaker:So I took pause and
Speaker:sort of collected my thoughts
Speaker:on it.
Speaker:And I think that this
Speaker:actually captures the idea of
Speaker:FLOWS so well, too.
Speaker:So I wanted to share
Speaker:it with you briefly, not
Speaker:perfectly, it's out of my
Speaker:my recollection, and someone's read
Speaker:it to me, and probably
Speaker:people read it to them
Speaker:before.
Speaker:But there's an old story,
Speaker:a fable, and maybe you've
Speaker:heard of it, of a
Speaker:woman who walked to town
Speaker:every day to collect water.
Speaker:She carried her bucket faithfully
Speaker:down the hill to the
Speaker:well, filled her bucket up
Speaker:and proceeded to march back
Speaker:up the hill to supply
Speaker:her needs, her family's needs.
Speaker:But over time, the bucket
Speaker:developed a small hole, just
Speaker:a little hole.
Speaker:And day after day, as
Speaker:she passed other people going
Speaker:up and down the same
Speaker:hill, water trickled out in
Speaker:small drips along her path,
Speaker:until the point where other
Speaker:people were noticing that she
Speaker:was wasting or losing some
Speaker:of her hard earned work
Speaker:in that bucket.
Speaker:And it seemed like almost
Speaker:wasted effort to others, all
Speaker:that water lost before she
Speaker:even got home.
Speaker:But one day she noticed
Speaker:something beautiful.
Speaker:Along that path where the
Speaker:water had spilled, flowers had
Speaker:started blooming without even realizing
Speaker:it.
Speaker:I always get emotional at
Speaker:stories like this.
Speaker:Are you with me?
Speaker:I'm sure that there's some
Speaker:fellow sympaths or empaths or
Speaker:whatever this is, but without
Speaker:even realizing it, her daily
Speaker:effort, even though it felt
Speaker:imperfect, it looked imperfect, it
Speaker:was consistent, and it had
Speaker:been nourishing the earth along
Speaker:her way.
Speaker:It was making the path
Speaker:beautiful for her and her
Speaker:community.
Speaker:And that's really, to me,
Speaker:what FLOWS is about.
Speaker:Also, it's not about getting
Speaker:everything perfectly.
Speaker:It's not even about having,
Speaker:you know, all the exact
Speaker:right tools to make it
Speaker:happen.
Speaker:But it's about daily effort,
Speaker:simple practices to nourish ourselves,
Speaker:even if the path or
Speaker:our tools like the bucket
Speaker:aren't perfect.
Speaker:Because these are the small,
Speaker:steady choices we make every
Speaker:day that add up.
Speaker:They're watering the path that
Speaker:we're on.
Speaker:They're quietly supporting our health,
Speaker:our well-being.
Speaker:And sometimes, in a way,
Speaker:we don't even see that
Speaker:right away.
Speaker:We don't even see the
Speaker:results, the outcomes that add
Speaker:up over time until one
Speaker:day, things blossom and we're
Speaker:aware.
Speaker:And actually, that's where I
Speaker:want to take us today.
Speaker:So what does the research
Speaker:say about these small daily
Speaker:efforts?
Speaker:What's the return on investment,
Speaker:as I call them, the
Speaker:ROI of FLOWS?
Speaker:What's blooming beneath the surface
Speaker:when we follow this kind
Speaker:of approach to eating and
Speaker:living?
Speaker:So returns on investment, to
Speaker:accomplish any goal, we need
Speaker:a plan in life.
Speaker:Teachers make lesson plans, architects
Speaker:draw building plans, pilots make
Speaker:flight plans.
Speaker:I'm sure you can name
Speaker:some others.
Speaker:In business, think about that.
Speaker:Strategic planning keeps teams and
Speaker:workers, worker bees, the me's
Speaker:and you's of the world
Speaker:in sync.
Speaker:And it points us all
Speaker:toward that positive outcome, toward
Speaker:the goal and the task
Speaker:at hand.
Speaker:So our FLOWS philosophy is
Speaker:a plan with a similar
Speaker:end or similar benefit.
Speaker:By following your own roadmap,
Speaker:by checking in with yourself,
Speaker:whether something's fresh, local, organic,
Speaker:whole, seasonal, not all of
Speaker:the above all the time,
Speaker:but some of the above
Speaker:most of the time, and
Speaker:the associated terms that go
Speaker:with it, as we talked
Speaker:about flavorful with F also,
Speaker:satisfying with S also, you
Speaker:can start to streamline your
Speaker:decisions about your food choices.
Speaker:And you can have a
Speaker:template to drive your self
Speaker:-awareness, keep you on track,
Speaker:and keep you in the
Speaker:spirit and mindset of FLOWS,
Speaker:which is such a nice
Speaker:term, I think, about thinking
Speaker:about how we can move
Speaker:through life.
Speaker:So let's take a look
Speaker:at those ROIs, the benefits,
Speaker:so to speak, of FLOWS.
Speaker:And of course, they're not
Speaker:financial, although they may feel
Speaker:like it, because you may
Speaker:gain life and vitality.
Speaker:And I think that that's
Speaker:almost like a financial win.
Speaker:But it's the kind that
Speaker:matters really deeply to our
Speaker:energy, our vitality, and how
Speaker:we feel our minutes of
Speaker:our daily life as we
Speaker:live them.
Speaker:These are the benefits that
Speaker:show up in small ways,
Speaker:and sometimes surprising ways, mind
Speaker:you, when we follow a
Speaker:path that's fresh, local, organic,
Speaker:whole, and seasonal.
Speaker:So here are just a
Speaker:few of the ROIs and
Speaker:benefits that the research supports.
Speaker:So number one, we can
Speaker:get better nutrient absorption, bioavailability,
Speaker:better nutrition overall, thanks to
Speaker:the food matrix.
Speaker:So there's that word again.
Speaker:When we eat, it's not
Speaker:just about the nutrients, like
Speaker:just making sure that you
Speaker:tick the boxes on nutrients,
Speaker:or the nutrient facts label.
Speaker:Those are important if you're
Speaker:reading packaged foods to maximize
Speaker:the quality, along with the
Speaker:nutrition.
Speaker:But it's about how our
Speaker:bodies actually use them.
Speaker:You know, reading with our
Speaker:mind or digesting the information
Speaker:is not the same as
Speaker:how we digest the food
Speaker:and the nutrition.
Speaker:Researchers from Chile, these are
Speaker:researchers from different studies from
Speaker:Chile and France, have shown
Speaker:that nutrients in foods like
Speaker:fruits and vegetables and whole
Speaker:grains are better absorbed and
Speaker:used by the body when
Speaker:they're eaten in like their
Speaker:natural form.
Speaker:They may be minimally processed,
Speaker:or they may be cooked,
Speaker:but the more toward the
Speaker:food matrix form, the whole
Speaker:form, they do better.
Speaker:Our body assimilates them better.
Speaker:In the Chilean study that
Speaker:I mentioned, Dr. Aguilera emphasized
Speaker:how the physical and chemical
Speaker:structure of foods, like fiber
Speaker:and vegetables or protein lipid
Speaker:bonds in dairy, how those
Speaker:can enhance the bioavailability of
Speaker:different nutrients.
Speaker:They can help slow digestion
Speaker:in a beneficial way.
Speaker:And meanwhile, French researchers Fardet
Speaker:and Rock have done extensive
Speaker:work, many, many published papers
Speaker:looking beyond nutrients to the
Speaker:food matrix and a holistic
Speaker:look at foods and food
Speaker:patterns beyond the nutrients themselves,
Speaker:the way our food is
Speaker:naturally structured and the benefits
Speaker:on its health they've looked
Speaker:at.
Speaker:So in one of their
Speaker:more recent papers, they propose
Speaker:that it's not just about
Speaker:those individual key nutrients or
Speaker:the calorie count, but really
Speaker:the integrity of the food
Speaker:itself that matters most.
Speaker:They explained that the natural
Speaker:food matrix can be degraded,
Speaker:like with heavy processing.
Speaker:So they talk about the
Speaker:ultra, ultra processing and heavy
Speaker:processing, and that we can
Speaker:lose some important health benefits,
Speaker:such as better nutrient absorption,
Speaker:or some of the benefits
Speaker:that would help us feel
Speaker:more satisfied, the satiation effects
Speaker:of certain foods, and even
Speaker:lose some of the blood
Speaker:sugar regulating effects of foods
Speaker:in their more matrix or
Speaker:full form.
Speaker:And they even introduce a
Speaker:concept called the 3-V
Speaker:index, which describes the value
Speaker:of foods that are real
Speaker:and plant-based and varied.
Speaker:And as they put it,
Speaker:and this is in quotes,
Speaker:the calorie quality matters more
Speaker:than the calorie quantity.
Speaker:I thought that was an
Speaker:interesting way of putting it
Speaker:so we could appreciate it,
Speaker:that the calories, the energy
Speaker:that comes from it, but
Speaker:the calorie quality matters more
Speaker:than the calorie quantity.
Speaker:And they also posit that
Speaker:foods really aren't like drugs
Speaker:where isolated ingredients alone can
Speaker:solve an issue or target
Speaker:something in the pathway.
Speaker:It is really the whole
Speaker:structure of the food that
Speaker:makes the difference.
Speaker:So it's not a stretch
Speaker:to understand really that when
Speaker:we disrupt the structure of
Speaker:a food through heavy processing,
Speaker:we can break the flow
Speaker:literally and figuratively.
Speaker:So choosing whole, that W,
Speaker:and minimally processed food, like
Speaker:in FLOWS, choosing fresh when
Speaker:it makes sense, helps us
Speaker:get the full benefit of
Speaker:the nutrition that mother nature
Speaker:intended.
Speaker:So benefit number two is
Speaker:about satiety and metabolic support.
Speaker:So the texture, the form,
Speaker:and our real fullness, how
Speaker:we can be impacted by
Speaker:FLOWS.
Speaker:So if you've ever wondered
Speaker:why chewing a crunchy carrot
Speaker:seems more filling than sipping
Speaker:a smoothie, we have research
Speaker:from wagging, and I have
Speaker:a lot of wordplay in
Speaker:this episode, and it's incredible,
Speaker:Agriculture University, and I always
Speaker:trip on the name, Wageningen
Speaker:University in the Netherlands, and
Speaker:they found that food form
Speaker:matters, and it matters a
Speaker:lot.
Speaker:In one major review from
Speaker:the Netherlands, they analyzed experimental
Speaker:studies showing that solid foods
Speaker:with more intact structures, like
Speaker:whole vegetables, grains, and legumes,
Speaker:think fresh and think it
Speaker:was the local and think
Speaker:of the whole and maybe
Speaker:seasonal, they slow the rate
Speaker:of eating, they can promote
Speaker:earlier fullness, and they can
Speaker:even help regulate blood sugar
Speaker:even more effectively than soft
Speaker:or liquid forms.
Speaker:So the textures naturally enhance
Speaker:satiety signals, they slow us
Speaker:down, they help contribute to
Speaker:healthier metabolic outcomes, and this
Speaker:is independent of calorie count
Speaker:or the macronutrient breakdown.
Speaker:The macronutrients are your carbs,
Speaker:fats, protein, the key macronutrients
Speaker:in our diet.
Speaker:So this is really the
Speaker:power of foods form, you
Speaker:know, and FLOWS encourages us
Speaker:toward fresh and whole foods,
Speaker:not just because they're nutritious,
Speaker:but because they help our
Speaker:bodies respond in real time.
Speaker:It sort of honors our
Speaker:hunger and satiety cues and
Speaker:helps us keep feeling good
Speaker:as a result of the
Speaker:foods that we choose and
Speaker:how we eat.
Speaker:So the third benefit is
Speaker:that whole dietary patterns, not
Speaker:just individual foods or even
Speaker:individual meals, but whole dietary
Speaker:patterns can improve health outcomes.
Speaker:That's like the long-term
Speaker:benefit and impact of how
Speaker:we choose our food now,
Speaker:today, at this meal, and
Speaker:this afternoon, and this evening,
Speaker:and tomorrow.
Speaker:So instead of the focus
Speaker:on sort of cutting a
Speaker:macronutrient, like cutting carbs, or
Speaker:even of counting calories, which
Speaker:is a little bit out
Speaker:of fashion, but people still
Speaker:keep an eye on calories,
Speaker:what if we focused on
Speaker:the pattern of what's on
Speaker:the plate?
Speaker:In a global symposium a
Speaker:couple years ago that was
Speaker:held in Washington, D.C.,
Speaker:and a paper came out
Speaker:of it from Dr. Martini
Speaker:from the University of Milan,
Speaker:from Dr. Mattis from Purdue
Speaker:University, from researchers out of
Speaker:Baylor and Leeds, and a
Speaker:university in Salvador, Bahia in
Speaker:Brazil.
Speaker:The message here was clear,
Speaker:that public health guidance is
Speaker:really shifting from those isolated
Speaker:nutrients to whole dietary patterns
Speaker:and their impact on health.
Speaker:So while it's important to
Speaker:know what a nutrient does,
Speaker:how it functions, what we
Speaker:might be deficient in, really
Speaker:the impact on whole health
Speaker:and on health promotion really
Speaker:depends on whole dietary patterns.
Speaker:And research, our population research,
Speaker:and what we're finding is
Speaker:that that really does matter.
Speaker:The evidence has pointed and
Speaker:shown that.
Speaker:So the work from the
Speaker:symposium really encouraged us to
Speaker:really think about the meals
Speaker:as a sum of their
Speaker:parts into other meals, and
Speaker:emphasizing variety and quality and
Speaker:the cultural relevance over specific
Speaker:numbers at any given single
Speaker:meal.
Speaker:So this was really important.
Speaker:Then in tandem with that,
Speaker:a review in 2022 that
Speaker:was published in the European
Speaker:Journal of Internal Medicine explored
Speaker:how nutrition and lifestyle changes
Speaker:influence our health overall.
Speaker:And these findings were really
Speaker:powerful, and they sort of
Speaker:underscore some of the information
Speaker:I've shared in other episodes,
Speaker:that healthy eating patterns like
Speaker:the Mediterranean diet, there we
Speaker:go again, can make a
Speaker:real difference.
Speaker:They can help as a
Speaker:pattern lower the risk of
Speaker:chronic diseases, support heart health,
Speaker:boost life expectancy, or help
Speaker:us with vital longevity.
Speaker:And they do so by
Speaker:the combination of their natural
Speaker:anti-inflammatory nature and antioxidant
Speaker:properties.
Speaker:They focus toward getting some
Speaker:total of better fiber, fruits
Speaker:and vegetables, and sort of
Speaker:steering and veering away from
Speaker:the, again, ultra-processed, not
Speaker:just processed because processing is
Speaker:a normal part of how
Speaker:we treat our food to
Speaker:get it ready to eat,
Speaker:but the ultra-processed, highly,
Speaker:highly processed foods.
Speaker:So veering away from that.
Speaker:This way of eating, this
Speaker:pattern of eating has shown
Speaker:to help reduce sort of
Speaker:systemic or chronic inflammation and
Speaker:keep the immune system healthy
Speaker:and supported over time.
Speaker:So together, these studies and
Speaker:these types of studies, these
Speaker:are just a couple, show
Speaker:the power of how we
Speaker:eat really, how we eat,
Speaker:not just what we eat
Speaker:is relevant.
Speaker:And FLOWS gives us a
Speaker:simple way to approach those
Speaker:patterns, building your meals with
Speaker:at least two of the
Speaker:FLOWS elements in mind.
Speaker:And if you get to
Speaker:there, you're on the right
Speaker:track and you can feel
Speaker:good about how you're eating
Speaker:toward a well-lived and
Speaker:well-nourished day and life.
Speaker:So another benefit I want
Speaker:to share with you, and
Speaker:this is one of the
Speaker:most encouraging shifts in modern
Speaker:nutrition is focusing not on
Speaker:what to cut or restrict,
Speaker:but what to add.
Speaker:I have been talking about
Speaker:this since the start of
Speaker:my career.
Speaker:And similarly, in the symposium
Speaker:that I mentioned just a
Speaker:moment ago about patterns, the
Speaker:collective summary, really the researchers
Speaker:came back to multiple times,
Speaker:but the summary came back
Speaker:to the move toward positive
Speaker:nutrition.
Speaker:Isn't that positive?
Speaker:Isn't that optimistic?
Speaker:Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker:But that there's evidence to
Speaker:support that the foods on
Speaker:the plate matter at least
Speaker:as much, if not more
Speaker:than things that you're trying
Speaker:to restrict and highlighting foods
Speaker:that not only support health,
Speaker:but joy, enjoyment, nourishment in
Speaker:the broader sense, rather than
Speaker:avoiding harm or limiting foods
Speaker:because you don't want to
Speaker:get something, but putting positive
Speaker:spins and not spins.
Speaker:I mean, literally making your
Speaker:plate spin with healthy nutrition.
Speaker:And the takeaway again, was
Speaker:super clear that people are
Speaker:more likely to thrive when
Speaker:they're offered flexible frameworks.
Speaker:And hopefully FLOWS will give
Speaker:you that.
Speaker:We know that instead of
Speaker:rigid rules, it offers that
Speaker:not about that you hit
Speaker:every letter at every meal,
Speaker:but it's about a mindset,
Speaker:fresh, local, organic, whole, and
Speaker:seasonal.
Speaker:And I talk about that
Speaker:in part one, in the
Speaker:episode that preceded this, of
Speaker:using this as a guidepost,
Speaker:not as an absolute.
Speaker:It's something that you just
Speaker:sort of must meditate on.
Speaker:It's a way to navigate
Speaker:your day when you're looking
Speaker:at your food choices.
Speaker:And ultimately to bring this
Speaker:all back into flow, FLOWS
Speaker:gives you freedom.
Speaker:Psychologists at the Masi Kampo
Speaker:lab at Wake Forest showed
Speaker:that having specific plans for
Speaker:a goal and free up
Speaker:some mental space, um, it
Speaker:allows you room for other
Speaker:pursuits in effect.
Speaker:So in addition to helping
Speaker:us make healthier food choices,
Speaker:the FLOWS acronym guide roadmap
Speaker:that allows you to enjoy
Speaker:the scenery can let us
Speaker:have room for other beneficial
Speaker:stuff, other great things on
Speaker:the eat well, move daily,
Speaker:be healthy journey, other ways
Speaker:to maximize our waking minutes
Speaker:each day.
Speaker:And once FLOWS becomes more
Speaker:of an unconscious habit for
Speaker:you, you might find that
Speaker:you can actually stop focusing
Speaker:so much on it and
Speaker:make room for other health
Speaker:enhancing tools and approaches as
Speaker:well.
Speaker:So whether it's improving how
Speaker:we absorb the nutrients, how
Speaker:full and balanced we feel,
Speaker:how we nourish our bodies
Speaker:over time, or how empowered
Speaker:we feel in our choices,
Speaker:FLOWS is not a rigid
Speaker:rule book.
Speaker:It's really about the rhythm
Speaker:of our meals that work
Speaker:through our days, the rhythm
Speaker:of the meals that may
Speaker:turn into snacks and may
Speaker:then turn into movement and
Speaker:then may turn into rest.
Speaker:It's a way to gently
Speaker:guide your meals and your
Speaker:snacks through the lens of
Speaker:possibility and nourishment.
Speaker:So now let's take a
Speaker:pause, a moment to reflect,
Speaker:not just on our food,
Speaker:but maybe on how we
Speaker:move through our waking minutes.
Speaker:And we're going to share
Speaker:a Mindful Minute together, as
Speaker:we often do in episodes,
Speaker:especially after we just took
Speaker:on a lot of research
Speaker:and things to think about.
Speaker:We want to get back
Speaker:into flow.
Speaker:So first, find a comfortable
Speaker:position, put your feet connected
Speaker:to the ground in some
Speaker:way.
Speaker:You could do this standing,
Speaker:but if you're seated, your
Speaker:feet flat on the ground,
Speaker:your legs uncrossed, rest your
Speaker:hands gently in your lap,
Speaker:soften your gaze.
Speaker:If you choose to or
Speaker:wish to, you can close
Speaker:your eyes.
Speaker:And before we begin our
Speaker:Mindful Minute together, let's take
Speaker:one steady grounding breath.
Speaker:So we'll inhale deeply through
Speaker:our nose, exhale through your
Speaker:mouth.
Speaker:As we settle into our
Speaker:mindful minute together, I invite
Speaker:you to let the word
Speaker:FLOWS, drift through your mind
Speaker:like a gentle current about
Speaker:the guides our breath.
Speaker:Okay, let's begin.
Speaker:As you breathe in, think
Speaker:of F for fresh and
Speaker:flavorful.
Speaker:Imagine the vitality of the
Speaker:food straight from nature.
Speaker:As you exhale, bring to
Speaker:mind L for local.
Speaker:Feel the connection to your
Speaker:surroundings, community, the soil.
Speaker:Inhale, think of O for
Speaker:organic.
Speaker:Mother nature's pure expression, food
Speaker:grown with care.
Speaker:Think of the farmers.
Speaker:Exhale, reflect on W for
Speaker:whole.
Speaker:Whole foods, whole grains, visualize
Speaker:foods in their whole form.
Speaker:Intact, nourishing.
Speaker:And finally, breathe in for
Speaker:S for seasonal, sustainable, satisfying.
Speaker:And there you have it.
Speaker:We can picture the rhythm
Speaker:of the seasons, the harmony
Speaker:of FLOWS, how it's something
Speaker:that we can have together.
Speaker:And it's one small moment,
Speaker:one minute that we shared
Speaker:together of breathing together as
Speaker:well.
Speaker:Thank you for sharing that
Speaker:Mindful Minute with me.
Speaker:So how do we put
Speaker:FLOWS into action in our
Speaker:everyday lives?
Speaker:In the first episode of
Speaker:FLOWS, part one, I shared
Speaker:a couple of ways to
Speaker:start thinking about it.
Speaker:And I want to build
Speaker:on that here with some
Speaker:clear, simple steps and maybe
Speaker:some scenarios that you can
Speaker:carry into your week.
Speaker:So maybe you've already begun
Speaker:to use FLOWS, the acronym,
Speaker:as a lens through which
Speaker:you look at your meals
Speaker:and your menus.
Speaker:And I encourage you to
Speaker:use it as a fluid
Speaker:yet conscious approach toward nourishing
Speaker:your body during our waking
Speaker:minutes each day.
Speaker:So we talked today again
Speaker:about how FLOWS gives us
Speaker:like a flexible framework.
Speaker:And it's not just a
Speaker:checklist to follow perfectly, but
Speaker:rather a guide that helps
Speaker:us like a map where
Speaker:we can then check out
Speaker:the scenery along the way.
Speaker:So remember what I said
Speaker:in the first episode.
Speaker:And I'm going to say
Speaker:it again here in case
Speaker:you forgot or haven't heard
Speaker:that one yet.
Speaker:But print out or post
Speaker:the word FLOWS as a
Speaker:reminder.
Speaker:Set it on your calendar.
Speaker:Ping you around meal times.
Speaker:Maybe set a little ping
Speaker:or notification of sorts.
Speaker:Or when you're planning your
Speaker:grocery shopping, maybe put it
Speaker:at the top of the
Speaker:list so you see FLOWS
Speaker:before you see the other
Speaker:things on your list.
Speaker:And in general, aim to
Speaker:get two or more of
Speaker:the FLOWS met at each
Speaker:meal or snack.
Speaker:So let's imagine just a
Speaker:few real life scenarios where
Speaker:FLOWS can sort of quietly
Speaker:step in and help.
Speaker:First, the grocery store.
Speaker:We've all been there when
Speaker:we're after a full day,
Speaker:you have to get to
Speaker:the grocery store.
Speaker:Or on a weekend day,
Speaker:maybe you have to fit
Speaker:it in between activities.
Speaker:Sometimes you might be standing
Speaker:there in front of the
Speaker:produce section, and maybe your
Speaker:energy and focus are fading
Speaker:a little bit.
Speaker:You know the feeling.
Speaker:We've all been there.
Speaker:I know this inherently.
Speaker:And instead of overthinking every
Speaker:choice, just let FLOWS gently
Speaker:guide you as you look
Speaker:at choices that you're selecting
Speaker:off your list or off
Speaker:the shelves.
Speaker:For example, you spot some
Speaker:apples.
Speaker:Well, maybe there's a sign
Speaker:up there.
Speaker:There's choices.
Speaker:There's so many types of
Speaker:apples these days.
Speaker:But maybe there's a sign
Speaker:up there.
Speaker:Obviously, right there, they're fresh,
Speaker:which is great.
Speaker:Maybe there's a sign that
Speaker:says local, local apples.
Speaker:You know, we're moving into
Speaker:that season.
Speaker:That would be also your
Speaker:L.
Speaker:Without making it like a
Speaker:quiz or a checklist, just
Speaker:let FLOWS sort of point
Speaker:in the direction, make the
Speaker:decision and be done.
Speaker:Next, bring it into your
Speaker:own kitchen.
Speaker:Maybe it's lunchtime and you're
Speaker:staring in the fridge or
Speaker:pantry wondering what to put
Speaker:together.
Speaker:Maybe you've grabbed a pack
Speaker:of this and maybe one
Speaker:of that.
Speaker:But FLOWS can be a
Speaker:great tool here too.
Speaker:You can scan and maybe
Speaker:see a can of organic
Speaker:beans in the pantry.
Speaker:Maybe you can go to
Speaker:the refrigerator, you see some
Speaker:fresh greens, maybe see a
Speaker:lemon in your fruit bowl
Speaker:and you can put them
Speaker:all together and make a
Speaker:nice salad.
Speaker:You've got your O for
Speaker:organic in the beans, you've
Speaker:got your F for fresh
Speaker:in what you've taken out
Speaker:of the refrigerator and out
Speaker:of the fruit bowl.
Speaker:And with the beans and
Speaker:greens, you're also hitting the
Speaker:W, the whole food.
Speaker:So this doesn't have to
Speaker:be like fancy.
Speaker:It just needs to flow
Speaker:from what you have and
Speaker:where you're at.
Speaker:It FLOWS in the action
Speaker:of it too, right there
Speaker:in your own kitchen.
Speaker:And more broadly, I like
Speaker:to think of FLOWS like
Speaker:that.
Speaker:Like think of FLOWS like
Speaker:a river that's moving through
Speaker:its course.
Speaker:When you look at a
Speaker:river, it FLOWS around and
Speaker:over the rocks and pebbles.
Speaker:It doesn't see them as
Speaker:barriers.
Speaker:In fact, they shape the
Speaker:water's path, those rocks and
Speaker:pebbles, giving it character and
Speaker:energy.
Speaker:So sometimes the little bumps
Speaker:or obstacles actually help guide
Speaker:the flow to something even
Speaker:more beautiful.
Speaker:And our days and our
Speaker:choices, our meals and our
Speaker:snacks can all be like
Speaker:that too.
Speaker:We might not have the
Speaker:perfect conditions every day, but
Speaker:we can still move or
Speaker:flow and move with the
Speaker:flow and not against it.
Speaker:Another way to live FLOWS
Speaker:through planning is by not
Speaker:making it complicated when it
Speaker:comes to thinking about the
Speaker:season or thinking about what's
Speaker:going to be on your
Speaker:menu.
Speaker:If you're curious about how
Speaker:to do more local or
Speaker:seasonal in the area that
Speaker:you live or that's sort
Speaker:of newer to you, or
Speaker:maybe it's just a check
Speaker:-in.
Speaker:Aha, it's springtime.
Speaker:I forgot.
Speaker:Let me get in touch
Speaker:with the CSAs, the community
Speaker:-supported agriculture.
Speaker:And I certainly encourage you
Speaker:to do that.
Speaker:Many local farms offer seasonal
Speaker:boxes of produce and you
Speaker:literally help support the local
Speaker:small farmers to bring you
Speaker:fresh local food right to
Speaker:your doorstep or nearby pickup
Speaker:on a weekly basis or
Speaker:every other week.
Speaker:There's a simple way to
Speaker:find a CSA in your
Speaker:area.
Speaker:I'll be doing an episode
Speaker:on farmers markets and CSA
Speaker:soon, but you can go
Speaker:to localharvest.org and you
Speaker:can enter your zip code
Speaker:and you can find opportunities
Speaker:there.
Speaker:So even there's some resources
Speaker:there to make it easier
Speaker:for you to live the
Speaker:local and the seasonal a
Speaker:little bit easier.
Speaker:And it's a beautiful way
Speaker:also to let the season
Speaker:sort of guide our meals
Speaker:naturally and a simple way
Speaker:to invite FLOWS into your
Speaker:home one box at a
Speaker:time.
Speaker:And finally, I encourage you
Speaker:to keep FLOWS in your
Speaker:mind even when you're dining
Speaker:out or traveling.
Speaker:You might not have full
Speaker:control over the menu and
Speaker:that's totally fine and it
Speaker:can be fun, but you
Speaker:can still look for the
Speaker:options and sort of feel
Speaker:aligned.
Speaker:Maybe it's a dish that
Speaker:highlights seasonal ingredients or something
Speaker:that's built around whole fresh
Speaker:foods.
Speaker:So FLOWS can be about
Speaker:progress and not doing all
Speaker:things all the time or
Speaker:all at once.
Speaker:Even noticing one element can
Speaker:sort of set you in
Speaker:the momentum and can help
Speaker:you feel connected to your
Speaker:health goals.
Speaker:It's all about creating the
Speaker:flow and remembering again that
Speaker:FLOWS is not about all
Speaker:five letters at every meal.
Speaker:It might be even rare
Speaker:that you hit all five
Speaker:letters at a meal, but
Speaker:it is about movement and
Speaker:it's about creating milestones along
Speaker:the way and eating the
Speaker:patterns, recognizing that eating in
Speaker:patterns can be nutritive and
Speaker:nourishing and beneficial for your
Speaker:health.
Speaker:Even one mindful choice can
Speaker:make you feel like you're
Speaker:back in the flow if
Speaker:you feel like you've stepped
Speaker:out.
Speaker:And remember that those rocks
Speaker:and pebbles can actually help
Speaker:create the path as well.
Speaker:So it's a rhythm and
Speaker:I think that's important for
Speaker:us to continue to remember.
Speaker:So as you think about
Speaker:your day ahead, even the
Speaker:next meal, remember FLOWS.
Speaker:Keep in mind the fresh,
Speaker:the local, organic, whole, seasonal.
Speaker:Even noticing one or two,
Speaker:aim for two, along the
Speaker:way can make the whole
Speaker:experience better.
Speaker:It could be a moment
Speaker:at the market when you
Speaker:choose something.
Speaker:It can be the whole
Speaker:ingredient in your pantry.
Speaker:It might be just a
Speaker:simple act of pausing to
Speaker:consider, does this flow?
Speaker:Is the choice that I'm
Speaker:making, does it feel good?
Speaker:Does it help ground me?
Speaker:Does it nourish me?
Speaker:So today in sum, we've
Speaker:explored a few ways that
Speaker:FLOWS can support our health
Speaker:and wellbeing by looking at
Speaker:some of the science that
Speaker:sort of substantiates or support
Speaker:or sort of was a
Speaker:springboard to me sort of
Speaker:finding my flow about FLOWS
Speaker:from the whole fresh foods
Speaker:and how they work together
Speaker:in the body, how structure,
Speaker:the form and flexibly support
Speaker:us, not just nutritionally, but
Speaker:also mentally and how FLOWS
Speaker:can help us feel more
Speaker:present and empowered in our
Speaker:daily choices.
Speaker:And we discovered that FLOWS
Speaker:isn't just a nice idea.
Speaker:The research really does back
Speaker:it up.
Speaker:How choosing whole fresh foods
Speaker:can help our bodies absorb
Speaker:nutrients better, how the textures
Speaker:and forms can help support
Speaker:fullness and metabolic health, the
Speaker:real deal, and how it
Speaker:can free up mental space,
Speaker:give us some freedom to
Speaker:make other nourishing choices in
Speaker:the eat well, move daily,
Speaker:be healthy choices and practices
Speaker:in a well-lived life.
Speaker:And of course, we wrapped
Speaker:with some practical tips to
Speaker:get into the flow.
Speaker:And I had to get
Speaker:into the flow.
Speaker:You heard me say it
Speaker:pun intended.
Speaker:So that's the episode for
Speaker:today of 1,000 Waking Minutes.
Speaker:I'm Wendy Bazilian, your podcast
Speaker:friend, and your health supporter.
Speaker:And we're on this journey
Speaker:together toward a well-lived
Speaker:life.
Speaker:I think that our 1,000
Speaker:waking minutes are our life's
Speaker:currency.
Speaker:And it's a great equalizer
Speaker:among us.
Speaker:And if you like this
Speaker:episode or found something meaningful
Speaker:in it, I hope you
Speaker:will write to me and
Speaker:share it with a friend
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Speaker:It really does help us
Speaker:grow helps me know you're
Speaker:out there and listening.
Speaker:And I hope that what
Speaker:I bring to you can
Speaker:help us grow our community
Speaker:and make it vibrant.
Speaker:You can always leave a
Speaker:comment, which I appreciate.
Speaker:You can also find me
Speaker:directly at wendybazilian.com
Speaker:or email me at one
Speaker:1KWM@wendybazilian.com
Speaker:.com.
Speaker:So as we close, I
Speaker:leave you with this thought,
Speaker:just like the river FLOWS
Speaker:around the rocks in its
Speaker:path.
Speaker:It's gentle, it's persistent.
Speaker:We can also move through
Speaker:our days with that same
Speaker:grace, the rocks don't disappear,
Speaker:but we find our way
Speaker:around them.
Speaker:That's the power of flow.
Speaker:And until next time, be
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Speaker:and of course my family,
Speaker:and everyone working tirelessly behind
Speaker:the scenes.
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