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#100: Dr. Fabrizio Mancini on Self-Healing, Purpose, and the Power Within
Episode 10013th October 2025 • Beyond the Pills • Josh Rimany
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“Healing isn’t something we wait for from the outside. It’s something we activate from within.”

100 episodes.

100 stories of transformation.

One shared mission—to help you go beyond the pills.

On this episode, Josh Rimany, the Modern-Day Medicine Man, marks this milestone moment, he welcomes a guest whose life’s work embodies everything this show stands for: Dr. Fabrizio Mancini, an internationally recognized health and lifestyle expert, chiropractor, bestselling author, and frequent guest on Dr. Phil, CNN, and Fox News.

Dr. Fab has spent more than thirty years showing millions that the greatest pharmacy is the one inside each of us.

His message? You are the healer you’ve been waiting for.

This 100th-episode celebration goes far beyond reflection. It’s a re-awakening—a reminder that medicine’s future is personal, spiritual, and purpose-driven.


Rediscovering the Power Within

“Your body was created to heal. Every cell is programmed for life, not disease.”

Dr. Fab begins by dismantling one of the greatest myths of modern healthcare: that healing must come from a pill, a doctor, or a procedure. He invites listeners to reclaim their agency—to see the body as a divinely intelligent system capable of regeneration when we remove interference and reconnect with purpose.

He shares a moment from his own awakening:

“I realized that when people shifted from asking ‘What’s wrong with me?’ to ‘What’s my body trying to tell me?’—that’s when healing began.”

The conversation with Josh dives deep into the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science, from chiropractic philosophy to quantum healing, and the role of belief, gratitude, and community in reversing chronic disease. Together, they unpack how the mind, body, and spirit communicate—and why aligning all three creates lasting transformation.

“Healing is not an event; it’s a journey of remembrance—remembering who we are before the world told us otherwise.”


Living as Your Own Best Doctor

This episode isn’t just about health. It’s about identity.

As Dr. Fab says, “When you take ownership of your health, you take ownership of your life.” Listeners will find themselves nodding as he and Josh explore what it means to move from dependence to empowerment, from symptom management to soul alignment. They challenge the old paradigm of fear-based medicine and offer a vision where love, service, and self-trust become the most potent healing modalities.

Dr. Fab shares personal stories of patients who reversed chronic illness not through miracle drugs, but through mindset, forgiveness, and purpose. He explains how gratitude and service rewire the nervous system for healing, and why emotional energy is often the missing link in wellness.


“Every emotion is chemistry. When you live in fear, you create toxicity. When you live in gratitude, you create life.”


He reminds us that true wellness isn’t about avoiding sickness—it’s about cultivating wholeness.


“The goal isn’t to live forever. The goal is to live fully—awake, aligned, and aware.”


For Josh, this milestone conversation feels like destiny. Both he and Dr. Fab share the conviction that healing is not linear—it’s layered, spiritual, and deeply personal. Their synergy is palpable as they trade insights about energy medicine, consciousness, and purpose-driven health.


Listeners will feel inspired to:

  • Reclaim control over their healing narrative.
  • Challenge the “pill for every problem” mentality.
  • Remember that faith, mindset, and community are medicine.

And they’ll walk away with the realization that the greatest transformation starts not in the pharmacy—but in the mirror.


Your Invitation to Go Beyond

“Don’t wait for a diagnosis to start living. Start healing now.”


As this landmark episode closes, Josh offers a heartfelt reflection on what Beyond The Pills has become: a global movement of healers, seekers, and believers in the body’s divine intelligence.

100 episodes of stories that prove healing is not a destination, but a way of being.

Dr. Fab leaves listeners with one final message:

“You are designed for health. You are built for purpose. And you are far more powerful than you’ve been led to believe.”


This isn’t just an interview—it’s an activation.


An invitation to turn inward, listen deeply, and trust that the same force that created the body also heals the body.

Josh echoes that sentiment with gratitude for the community that has grown alongside the show:

“We’ve built something sacred here—a space where science meets spirit, where pharmacists become healers, and where purpose becomes medicine.”


And as Beyond The Pills steps into its next 100 episodes, the message is clear: Healing begins when we stop outsourcing our power and start embodying it.


Key Takeaways from Dr. Fabrizio Mancini

  • Healing is an inside-out process—your body is designed to restore itself.
  • Gratitude and forgiveness are the most under-prescribed medicines.
  • Chronic disease begins with chronic disconnection—from self, spirit, and truth.
  • Love is the highest frequency of healing; fear is its greatest disruptor.
  • You are your own best doctor—and your purpose is the prescription.

🧠 Memorable Quotes

  • “Every symptom is a conversation your body is trying to have with you—stop silencing it.”
  • “Gratitude changes chemistry faster than any supplement.”
  • “If you align your energy with your purpose, the body follows.”
  • “Healing is the ultimate act of self-love.”
  • “When we go beyond the pills, we don’t just treat—we transform.”

Final Reflection

Episode #100 isn’t just a celebration—it’s a spiritual marker.

It’s proof that conversations like these are the new medicine: grounded in science, elevated by spirit, and powered by purpose.

Beyond The Pills continues to remind us that the most profound transformations happen when we awaken to the healer within.

So take a deep breath, press play, and let this milestone episode reconnect you with the truth that has always been inside you.


Because as Dr. Fab says:

“The greatest miracle you will ever witness is the one that happens inside you.”


🎧 Listen Now

Join host Josh Rimany and guest Dr. Fabrizio Mancini for a milestone conversation that redefines what it means to heal, grow, and live with purpose.


📲 Subscribe to Beyond The Pills on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite platform—and leave a review sharing your biggest takeaway from Episode #100!

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Welcome back to Beyond the Pills,

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where we journey through the intersection

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of ancient wisdom and modern science to

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uncover the essence of true healing, body,

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mind, and spirit.

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I'm Josh Remini, your host,

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pharmacist turned healer,

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and modern day medicine man.

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And today's episode is a special one for

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me.

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Episode one hundred,

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a milestone that has celebrated not only

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this movement,

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but the healing community we've all been

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building together.

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I can't think of a more perfect guest

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than to mark this moment than Dr.

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Fab Mancini.

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He's an internationally recognized health

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and lifestyle expert, chiropractor,

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of the power of self-healing and his

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newest release, Self Health,

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reversing chronic disease.

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Dr.

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Fab has spent more than thirty years

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showing people that healing isn't

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something we wait for from the outside.

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We have this in common.

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It's something we activate from within.

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He's been featured on Dr. Phil, CNN,

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Fox News,

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and countless stages around the world,

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helping millions reconnect with their

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innate power to heal, grow,

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and live with purpose.

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So today,

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we're diving deep into what really means

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to become your own best doctor,

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to reawaken your body's natural

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intelligence, reverse chronic disease,

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and live a life of vibrant self-healing.

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dr fab it truly is an honor to

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have you here in this milestone

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conversation welcome to beyond the pills

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well thank you josh and congratulations on

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your hundredth episode and for all the

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contributions you're making in educating

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and bringing an awareness to a topic that

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is still very much uh in the infancy

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when it comes to people understanding

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their true power to self-heal

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Well,

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that's a really great way to kick this

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off because, you know, Dr. Fab,

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what does this moment in time mean for

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you?

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This new chapter,

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not only with the book Self-Health,

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but the message you're bringing forward

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right now.

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Well,

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I believe that we're living at a time

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that after the pandemic for thirty five

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years,

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I've been asking audiences around the

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world,

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what is the three things that they value

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the most in their life?

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health was less than ten percent of those

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three things less than ten percent really

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after the pandemic it jumped to seventy

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percent people are now putting health as a

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priority in their lives and the reason for

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that is because the pandemic caused a lot

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of suffering a lot of uh

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questioning,

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do I follow my traditional way of doing

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things?

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Do I follow my gut feeling?

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Do I get a vaccine?

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Do I not get a vaccine?

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Do I go and get ivermectin wherever I

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can get it or do I not?

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So it made people understand that at the

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end of the day, no one,

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no one should have

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more influence into your health than you.

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It's our bodies.

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This should be the thing that we treasure

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the most in our lives because you can

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have people come into your house and clean

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your house and maybe they break a vase

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or two, but hey, you can replace it.

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You can actually have somebody valet your

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car or even wash your car and they

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scratch it or whatever,

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but you can fix it.

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You can replace it.

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This is the only body we get in

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our journey in life.

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This is the only body we get.

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So we got to start making great decisions.

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And I've never seen in the last thirty

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eight years that I've been a provider,

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I've never seen a time where people are

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more eager to learn about how to make

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a better decision than today.

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I definitely agree.

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I think that like,

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there's this beautiful moment in time we

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have in our humanity where this big event

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of COVID, like you said,

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it allowed people to empower themselves to

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make their own.

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I've been saying,

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I love empowering people to make their own

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informed, confident decisions.

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It's our jobs to give them information.

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It's their job to make the choice, right?

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And I love what you said because

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It's also I want to get this and

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we'll get it out of this whole

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conversation.

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But like the health care system itself,

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too, is I think with COVID,

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it brought a lot of people to that

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place where they they stopped trusting

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certain things like the person telling

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them what's wrong with them to get this

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to do this because it forced them to

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kind of, again, like you said,

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make those decisions.

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And I think we're at the golden age

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of health because you and I share that

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same core belief of the health that

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healing starts and ends within.

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We all have the capacity to heal each

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other.

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I come from the pharmacist world.

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So I'm teaching pharmacists all over the

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world with wellness is we all know what

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the placebo effect is,

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but pharma washes it out, right?

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And we're like, well,

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We want to nurture how the body heals

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itself because that's really what the

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placebo is.

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It's not that people don't get better off

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nothing.

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They get better off something.

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It's just not the drug.

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And that's what we're talking about here.

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So you've inspired millions through not

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only being your practitioner,

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but leadership and speaking all over the

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world.

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When you look back,

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what was your own defining moment that

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awakened your purpose as a healer?

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I will have to say that when I

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was sixteen years old,

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I had my dream that I saw myself

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as a doctor.

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So that started then.

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And then two weeks later, I mean,

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and then I entered pre-med school and six

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weeks or six months before I started

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medical school,

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I was involved in a car accident,

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went to a doctor of chiropractic referred

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by the orthopedic surgeon at emergency.

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He actually said to me,

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I can give you painkillers and muscle

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relaxers, but you have severe whiplash.

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Why don't you go see my doctor of

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chiropractic?

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Never heard the words before.

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Didn't know what a chiropractor was.

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Assume that it was a specialty in

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medicine.

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In that office, Josh,

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he said three things to me that changed

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my life.

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That was my defining moment.

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The first thing he said is,

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in our office,

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we're gonna remind you every day that your

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body is a self-healing organism.

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I never had a professor.

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I never had a medical doctor.

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I never had a nurse.

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I never had anybody in the health field

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ever,

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ever said to me that my body was

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self-healing.

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never number two your body is made up

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of systems and organs and in our office

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we're going to work primarily with the

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nervous system because it controls and

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regulates your whole body and that's what

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we do through gentle adjusting and then

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lastly this is the one that did it

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for me in our office we're not going

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to spend the majority of our time managing

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your symptoms we're actually going to be

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spending the majority of our time dealing

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with the root cause of your health

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problems

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And that was like, I mean,

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I still get hair bumps, you know,

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hair standing up because I got a sense

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of what I've always felt as I was

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undergraduate.

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And that is that the body has a

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greater ability to heal.

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And if we can prevent illness,

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we can actually help eradicate most of

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these conditions today.

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But nobody was talking like that.

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There was no wellness.

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There was no integrative medicine.

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There was no complementary medicine.

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There was no functional medicine.

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There was nothing.

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It was just, I mean,

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when I went to my advisor,

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what kind of specialty can I get?

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He said, well,

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become a doctor of chiropractic because

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they're the mainstream in holistic health.

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And then I also studied acupuncture as I

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became a chiropractor because I discovered

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it while I was in school and nutrition

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and everything else.

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But that was my defining moment.

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the managing of symptoms focus of

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healthcare is completely broken.

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It doesn't work and it has eradicated,

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according to HHS recently,

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seventy six percent of Americans have a

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chronic disease,

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which the majority can be prevented or at

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least managed holistically by addressing

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the root causes.

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And that's really what really started it

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all for me.

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And it's

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It is,

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it's capital T truth for me too.

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And we know that because it resonates that

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way.

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And then, you know,

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you lifted all those modalities of like

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chiropractic, holistic, integrative,

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now functional.

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And it's,

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I've been saying this as, you know,

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maybe I'm a unicorn because the pharmacist

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doesn't normally say these things,

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but it's like the body does have an

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innate ability to heal.

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And now what I love about that is,

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but we thought that was sort of mystical,

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right?

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There's this mystical piece.

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And now we're at that intersection of

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science proving the art of the mystical of

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why the body heals itself and getting into

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that root root cause.

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And you and I share these

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same energies and thoughts,

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because that's all we're doing now.

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That's all I tell people now is like,

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I'm not in the business of symptom

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management.

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I'm only in the business of transformation

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and healing.

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If you want to talk on those things,

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we'll talk right.

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And getting the body and empowering people

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to understand that you can heal yourself

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is so powerful.

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And I'm

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I'm so privileged to be on this stage

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with you because that's what you've been.

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How cool is it that you actually got

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that at the earliest part of your career?

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I've met people like that where it's like,

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But now we're here.

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And that's the essence of the book.

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And your book, the new book, Self-Health,

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is you challenge the idea that chronic

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disease is inevitable.

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And you kind of talk to us about

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what inspired that message.

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So how do you define self-healing for

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someone who's been told by the system

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that...

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And I don't like the word diagnosis

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anymore either because it puts people in a

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position of the opposite of healing.

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Something's wrong with them instead of,

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you know,

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I think it's what the ancients and what

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the Eastern medicine has had for years is

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instead of looking at the problem,

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you look at fixing the imbalance.

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And I know that's a lot about how

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your story and what comes.

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So what is...

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What do you tell people about that?

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Like moving them from that sick care model

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into this well care healing model?

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Well,

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when I wrote my book about twelve years

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ago,

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my fourth book was called The Power of

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Self-Healing with Hay House.

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And that book became number one in twelve

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countries, translated in eight languages.

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Yeah, I read it a long time ago.

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It impacted the world a great deal.

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And in that book, Josh,

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what my message was that your body can

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heal itself, right?

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So I interviewed fifty people that

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actually healed whenever they were told by

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traditional medicine that they would not

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heal.

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And I asked them,

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what was it that did it?

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And we came up with three dimensions of

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healing, which is physical,

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emotional and spiritual.

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And then I gave people a twenty one

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day process where they can self heal

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themselves.

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And that book is still today selling like

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crazy.

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Twelve years later,

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I still do about twenty lectures a year

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on that book.

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So then fast forward when we saw the

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changes in Washington and when I noticed

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that the HHS office and Bobby Kennedy was

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driving,

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the one main function was

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we're going to address our priority is

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chronic disease because it's ninety

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percent of the health care costs.

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I felt like I needed to bring another

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message to the picture,

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not only that your body has the ability

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to heal,

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but the message on self-health is very

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different.

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It's that, yes,

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your body has the ability to heal,

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but what allows that healing to take place

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is

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the choices that I'm making today when it

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comes to my health in comparison to the

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ones that I made yesterday.

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So this is how I framed it in

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the book.

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Imagine you were just born and I'm gonna

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give you, as you leave the hospital,

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I'm gonna give you a backpack.

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Think of it as a invisible backpack.

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And in that backpack,

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everything that your parents do from the

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moment you're born as you're younger,

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to everything that you do as you turn

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into a young person, teenager,

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early adult,

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to everything that you do in your forties,

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fifties, sixties, and seventies,

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if you make a bad choice,

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such as not sleeping enough,

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over drinking, experimenting with drugs,

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not exercising on a regular basis,

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eating processed foods,

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the typical American diet, right?

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It's sixty percent processed food instead

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of whole foods.

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All of those things is like putting a

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rock in your backpack.

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That's what chronic disease is.

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So as you get older,

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All of a sudden,

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you can get a cane to help support

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you, but that backpack is gonna get heavy,

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and it's gonna prevent you from living the

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quality of life that you were born to

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be.

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That's what really can prevent,

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or that's what health plan, in my opinion,

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is all about.

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Now,

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the opposite happens when you start making

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good choices.

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When you begin to recognize that your body

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needs to be a priority,

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that your mindset is one that says,

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as I get older,

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I should be getting healthier,

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not unhealthier.

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Right.

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Because now you have more control of your

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choices rather than the choices that your

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parents made for you,

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even though they did their best.

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Right.

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Maybe some of those choices were not the

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best for you.

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And then you begin to make choices.

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better choices for yourself,

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you begin to recognize what are the true

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things that science has proven that can

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actually reverse my biological age,

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that can make me feel more energetic,

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that can allow me to be at peace

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and manage my stress better.

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And that's the way I framed it in

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the book.

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So that's really what I'm trying to do

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with this book is to teach people that

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the only thing that reverses chronic

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disease is the choices that they are

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making themselves.

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Because no matter if I give you a

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silver platter, the answer to arthritis,

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the answer to obesity,

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the answer to diabetes doesn't mean you're

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going to do it.

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It's always back to the person and that's

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the message.

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And we have, I love this because

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we just talking about this the other day,

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cause my,

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my alignment arc process is very similar.

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It's teaching people that it's not just

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body, it's mind.

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We know mind body connection.

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And we,

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now we know energy and spirit in such

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a different way.

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You said it ancient wisdom and modern

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science.

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We're right here.

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And I, I,

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I just want to pause because like,

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that is the power of the messages choice.

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It's sovereignty.

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It's, it's having the, your own agency.

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We all have our choice.

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I was talking about this just yesterday

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with somebody was no matter what,

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like you can,

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but if you point the finger this way,

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right, you can't,

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a lot of us have pointed the finger

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this way saying this made me do this.

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This is the thing.

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And this is thing.

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I love that.

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Uh,

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I love your analogy with the backpack

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because it's so easy to like take the

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rock out because you have that choice

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today.

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And I think it's very powerful to making

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a better choice than you did yesterday.

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So instead of saying make good choices,

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just say, all right, today's a new day.

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Make one different choice.

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I always say flip the script, right?

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Just flip the script.

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Instead of like...

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And it can be as simple as taking

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a bottle of Coca-Cola and giving yourself

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a bottle of seltzer water.

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Just one thing.

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Or just simple water.

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Doesn't matter.

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You're right.

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And so I love how that's the essence

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of this book because now getting in front

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of choice now is important.

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is because we all say choice but then

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what's the what do you think is that

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actual space where somebody takes that

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choice well the important thing is that a

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lot of the chronic disease has been

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attributed to lifestyle and yesterday i

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was in los angeles speaking at an event

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with a bunch of doctors and health

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providers and one of the things that

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I said to the audience is that,

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you know,

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sometimes reversing chronic disease or

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becoming healthier,

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it's not a matter of adding more things

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into your life.

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It's a matter of removing those things

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that are actually causing most of these

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symptoms.

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I give you an example.

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When I entered the world of chiropractic,

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I was taught that I needed to have

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an air purifier around me at home and

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at the office.

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And for thirty eight years,

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I have always had now I even carry

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it on the plane.

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There's some portable ones that I wear

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because there's a lot of they say since

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I'm on a plane so much that that's

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one of the areas in which you need

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to purify your environment.

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So this one covers three feet around me.

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Then I put in my hotel.

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You just plug it in and it's a

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portable one.

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So whatever hotel I'm in,

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but if you go to any of my

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homes, there are filters everywhere.

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And then the other one is water filters

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and water filter.

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A lot of experts now are saying that

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water is actually probably the most toxic

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thing that we as humans consume because

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there's over two hundred and thirty.

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Toxics not only microplastics from your

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plastic bottles.

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I'm talking about hormone, toxins, drugs.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you name it.

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So going back to your, your question,

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the main thing that I wanted.

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For people to do is just to evaluate

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your lifestyle.

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Like, if I slept yesterday, four hours.

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for whatever reason, maybe I ate too late,

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maybe I drank too much,

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maybe I'm stressed because I fought with

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my girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever.

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Just today say,

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what can I do to ensure that I

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sleep at least eight to ten hours?

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so then maybe you go to bed a

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little bit earlier maybe you stop doing

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your tablets right the average american is

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now in their tablets for those phone ipad

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computers and all that an average of nine

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hours a day that includes our children

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yeah that means that imagine all that blue

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light and what it's doing to your brain

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it's not allowing you to be at peace

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and relaxed so do an activity today

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that would ensure that you correct or

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improve upon what you did yesterday.

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So yesterday for lunch, unfortunately,

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I was rushing and all I could do

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is stop at a fast food place.

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Well, what about if today,

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if you feel you may be rushing,

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why don't you prepare some organic,

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you know,

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meat

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and maybe some vegetables that you can

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easily heat up or eat on the road

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or maybe have i i travel with a

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portable shaker that i make my own shake

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because i know most hotels don't lend me

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a shake and if i'm a little bit

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hungry and i don't want to eat junk

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then i make me a protein shake or

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with my greens and my healthy stuff and

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it feeds my body but i feel good

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about it so the whole idea is

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The way that you transition,

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there's no transformation without

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activity.

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That's one thing I learned.

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I can read this book all day long,

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but unless I act on it,

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it would never transform my body.

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So all I'm saying to the reader is,

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and I'm giving them a lot of options

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of what to do.

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Every chapter is full of,

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these are the best things that science

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says you can do to accomplish this.

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And all I'm asking them to do is

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to make one better choice a day.

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and then what happens is as you make

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better choices every day it inspires you

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and motivates you to make more better

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choices in the future therefore achieving

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the goal of not only reversing chronic

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disease but living at your health optimum

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level so true and so aligned um because

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this

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Seventy percent of chronic conditions are

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a lifestyle issue, period.

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And lifestyle is just health coaching.

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It's really that simple.

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It's it's diet, it's exercise,

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it's stress,

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it's sleep and it's relationships.

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Those are the pillars because my wife is

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a health coach and yet it glazes right

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over.

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So I'm

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I love that you bring science into the

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book because I always tell people it's

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backed by science.

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And I love that you brought in the

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sleep because it is really fun.

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I get into these high level conversations

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with biohackers and longevity people.

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And I say like the number one longevity

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tool is sleep.

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Like if you get your sleep,

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you're already putting three and a half

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years on vibrant health on your life.

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And it's simple.

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But this nine-hour device that throws blue

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light, not only what content's in there,

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but the blue light.

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Like I just tell people it's high noon

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for your brain.

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If you're on that screen and your

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circadian rhythm is automatically off and

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then you're not sleeping well,

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it's like one thing, right?

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Yeah.

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And I always,

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I love treating high impact entrepreneurs

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because their ripple helps other people

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and helps that ripple.

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But I also tell them now, it's like,

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when you tell people to improve your

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business by one percent a day,

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by a hundred days,

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you've improved a hundred percent.

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And we're now saying this in the light

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that you said, right?

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Is this

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improve one thing that's it and it is

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it is the micro moments that count and

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so i think thank you so much for

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bringing this to light because these are

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the things that people it's simple but

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but doesn't necessarily mean easy, right?

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Because people will be doing it.

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And I'll make a comment.

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You mentioned your wife and you mentioned

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the word relationships.

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A new study just came out that showed

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that when it comes to longevity,

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number one, factor.

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to improve your longevity is the quality

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of your relationships.

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This is the longest study I believe that's

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been done up to this time.

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And when I wrote my book,

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The Power of Self-Healing,

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and I put the emotional component,

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there were three healing emotions.

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The first one was forgiveness.

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The second one was gratitude.

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And the third one was self-love.

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This is the one that is really lacking

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in today's world because most of us,

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unfortunately,

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are not loving ourselves enough.

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We don't love ourselves enough because we

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make choices that are

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toxic, distracting, painful,

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and we do it to ourselves, right?

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How many times have you been where,

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and it's tough because as an adult,

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you see it in your kids, right?

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They're surrounding themselves with

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certain kids that you know is gonna cause

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them pain and getting them in trouble,

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whether in school or after school or in

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sports or whatever,

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but we do it ourselves too.

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We surround ourselves in people in

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companies that are constantly complaining.

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Nothing is ever perfect.

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And now with the politics,

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you can't even bring in politics because

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people get polarized and everything is so

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split right now.

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So the important thing is to do this,

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is to understand.

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that if you just work right now on

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the relationship with yourself and begin

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to love yourself a little bit more,

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and then spend a little bit quality time

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in the relationships that you have,

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whether it's your family, your coworkers,

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whether it's your friends, whoever,

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then understand that then that's part of

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that health component that I'm trying to

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say.

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So no matter whether it's sleep,

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whether it's exercise,

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whether it's nutrition,

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all I'm saying is make a better decision

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today that will hopefully transform you

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into a healthier person tomorrow.

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Such wisdom in simplicity.

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And I kid with people too,

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because I say we're the only mammals on

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the planet that knowingly do bad things to

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ourselves.

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You don't see the squirrel going to

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McDonald's and eating a fry,

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but in his environment,

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if he's going to survive and that's all

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he eats, of course he eats that.

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But they don't make bad decisions.

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They know what's inherently good for them.

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And it's part of our human experience.

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But at the same time,

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I believe we're making that full circle

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back into this space.

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So let's go in there.

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Let's bridge science and spirit here

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because we both are bridging this body,

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mind, spirit.

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So you and I both believe that true

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healing goes beyond just the physical.

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So how do you bridge the science of

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health and wellness with the spirit of

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healing in your work?

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So when I wrote The Power of Self-Healing,

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almost every single person of the fifty

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patients that I interviewed mentioned some

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kind of spiritual component to their

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healing process.

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For some people it was prayer,

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for some people it was meditation,

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for some people was surrounding themselves

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with nature,

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for some people it was

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connecting with a belief system that was

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higher or better than what the one that

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they were at the time of the disease

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process.

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And so I began to really pay attention

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to that.

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And in my research,

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I went to the science and then I

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realized that all of these things have

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tremendous science.

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There are more studies on prayer.

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But most people never look at prayer as

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a scientific aspect.

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There are so many studies on meditation,

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even though it gets completely dismissed

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still by most of the traditional space.

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So in chiropractic,

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there's two things that I would tell you

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that were impactful things to me that were

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said to me early on in my career.

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The first one was when I entered

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chiropractic school,

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we were studying philosophy of

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chiropractic,

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and part of the philosophy of chiropractic

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by Daniel David Palmer, our founder,

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was that there is a universal intelligence

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that is expressed within the human body as

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innate intelligence,

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and it's one and the same.

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And when that expression is fully open to

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be expressed properly,

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the body has a greater ability to heal,

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right?

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So in acupuncture,

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I learned that you have chi,

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which is energy.

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And that energy is abundant in the

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universe,

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but it transmits itself through you

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through twelve meridians.

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And we have points throughout the body of

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those meridians.

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And when those meridians are balanced and

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full of charge and energy,

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your body has a greater ability to heal.

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So to me,

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one of the best things that one can

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do from a spiritual perspective is

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understanding that this body of us is a

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reflection only of something much better,

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something much purer, something greater.

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And I'm going to tell you a story

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that changed my life about that.

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So that was number one,

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universal intelligence,

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innate intelligence, expression of self.

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And then I meet Wayne Dyer.

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And Wayne Dyer in my early career became

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one of my best friends.

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I was his doctor.

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And Wayne shared with me a statement that

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says, you know, Fab,

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the key to life is when you learn

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to appreciate

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that we are not human beings living a

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spiritual experience but we're actually

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spiritual beings living a human experience

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yes so what i did as a provider

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i would look at my patient regardless of

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the diagnosis regardless of the

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symptomatology of the patient i would look

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at them as a spiritual being that is

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completely perfect i would see them well

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no matter what the condition was

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And I will then begin to work on

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the things that I've been taught to try

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to allow that expression to come through.

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So that's what I could do as a

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provider.

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And then in the eighties,

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I meet another influential friend to me,

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which is a guy named Dr. Bernie Siegel.

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And Bernie became very famous because he

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was one of the top oncologists in the

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world in the eighties and early nineties.

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He was getting results on cancer when

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nobody else was,

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and people wanted to know what.

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Oprah made him very famous.

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He wrote many books.

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So one day he comes to visit one

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of my mentors and I volunteered to drive

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him.

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right because that's what you do when

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you're a student of life you put yourself

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in positions to learn to absorb to grow

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from other people so while i'm driving him

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i asked him i said dr seger

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You're getting results, you know,

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I'm just a student,

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but you're getting results where nobody

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else in the most difficult thing that

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we've seen in healthcare cancer.

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And he said, Fab,

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there's three things that I look for in

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a patient that will dictate how good of

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a chance they will have to go into

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remission and hopefully resolving their

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cancer.

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The first one was how much do they

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believe in the treatment that they're

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doing?

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They have to believe in whatever

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treatment,

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whether it's a microbiotic diet,

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acupuncture needle,

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chiropractic adjustment,

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functional medicine, IV, whatever.

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Number two,

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how much do they believe in the provider

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that is actually delivering that

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treatment?

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And lastly, Josh, he said to me,

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and do they believe that the body can

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actually heal the cancer?

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So then I said to him, I said,

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well, Dr. Segal,

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I can't believe you're telling me this.

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After all these years of studying and all

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this research,

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everything you've done in your life,

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you telling me that it comes down to

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a belief system,

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whether somebody is actually gonna heal or

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not?

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He says, absolutely.

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To me, I see the belief system,

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and I wrote about it,

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as a spiritual component.

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It's where you upgrade your mindset beyond

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the physical.

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Because my mindset is only typically a

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collection of my reality, right?

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That's where I live.

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My mindset is equal to my reality.

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You want to upgrade your reality,

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upgrade your mindset.

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So for health, it's the same thing.

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If you allow to choose a diagnosis,

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which I call it a life sentence,

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by somebody else,

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which is just an opinion,

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they are only telling you what they were

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trained in school to do.

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If you don't like that opinion or resonate

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with that opinion,

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go to somebody else that has a different

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opinion, different training,

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different background,

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different experiences.

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And if you don't like that,

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go to somebody else until you find

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something that resonates with your core.

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And that's where you upgrade your belief

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system.

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Therefore,

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maybe getting the results that you're

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looking for when everybody else around you

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is failing in the same diagnosis that you

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have.

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Hmm.

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Right?

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The biology of belief.

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I mean, Bruce Lipton said it many times,

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you know?

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And it's down to the molecule.

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So now it's...

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This is why I love these conversations

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because...

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Spirit and science, wisdom and knowledge,

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it's all coming together because our left

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brain, West world opinions has to see it,

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right?

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You can't see belief.

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Like I'm a cancer survivor.

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I had cancer at sixteen and those three

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components were innate in me.

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And I've spent a whole my whole lifetime

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searching for what is that, right?

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It's that belief system.

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I love where you said belief

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in the treatment, in the practitioner,

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and in the belief that you can heal.

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That your body has the ability to heal

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it.

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Yeah.

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And that's exactly what I did when I

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was in treatment.

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I didn't know it at the time that

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there was a formula,

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that there was these things.

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And it's like I've gone all the way

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up there and back with science and

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spirituality.

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And there's definitely tools to get us

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there in more ways, right?

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To believe in a higher self,

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to believe in something bigger than you.

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I love that component that you reminded me

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of is like we're –

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we're divine beings living a human

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experience with these five senses that we

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have weird.

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I got to ask this though,

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because you're on that edge too,

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and you've been speaking it for decades,

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but where do you think the myth,

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the what's still missing in modern science

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to, we have the proof,

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we have the data, we have this,

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but we're still not talking as first line

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therapy to,

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belief, lifestyle, you know,

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modern day medicine,

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if we're going to call it that.

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Right.

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The sick care model is symptom resolution.

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Take a prescription pill for the ill.

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I'm diagnosing you.

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I like that life sentence.

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I don't use the word diagnosis anymore.

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I wash that out the first meeting I

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have with my clients.

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Right.

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We don't label ourselves.

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It's a death sentence,

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especially if the doctor says you have six

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months to live.

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Of course you do now because you here's

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the reverse of that belief.

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Right.

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Now you believe.

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And the clock is ticking.

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How many because they're the expert.

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And the belief is also fun because the

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reverse of the placebo effect,

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when somebody cures themselves of cancer

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with a placebo,

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and then you reveal to them that they

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cured themselves of nothing,

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but then they believe that that nothing

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wasn't really anything and they actually

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get cancer again.

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Yeah, it's amazing how the power of this.

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It's not the mind.

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It's bigger than that.

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You said, where do you see the missing?

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What are we missing in Cairo school and

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pharmacy school in medical school?

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Well, you're like,

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it's still like I'm still screaming at my

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peers about this,

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but they still not get it.

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You know,

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I've been blessed to have traveled all

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over the world through my speaking and my

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training.

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In Mexico,

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I brought them all the holistic sciences

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in the universities that they build so

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they can reduce their costs and improve

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the satisfaction of their patients because

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ninety four percent of the health care

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bill, the government pays for it.

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And I can tell you,

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I'll boil it down to this.

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The United States is probably the worst

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example of it all because I see that

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countries like China, Asia, Japan, Korea,

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they're more advanced in many ways towards

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prevention.

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India, of course, with Ayurvedic medicine,

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very much preventative.

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europe i lived in europe multiple times

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and europe they use homeopathy like we use

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here regular things they try homeopathy

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before they try a drug so it boils

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down to this

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that the majority of the healthcare system

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is still primarily financed and influenced

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by pharmaceutical companies.

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It's that simple.

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This is not a secret anymore.

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We know that pharmaceutical companies

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funded healthcare.

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Now they're funding all the agencies of

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healthcare,

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including the American Medical Association

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and you go on and on.

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So in Washington,

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When I read the book by Kylie Means

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and Casey Means,

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I realized that the lobbying,

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the lobbying part of healthcare is really

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being completely overlooked of how

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powerful it is,

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where now these legislators,

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in order to stay in office,

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they need money.

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So if I get money,

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now I have to support your cause because

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you're supporting my cause.

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And it's been a game that's been played

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years after years.

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Look at it now.

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The government shut down because of

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healthcare issues.

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Now, instead of coming together and say,

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hey, guys,

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let's get into this room and let's go

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back and forth.

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Let's bring experts on both sides.

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Let's discuss it.

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No, we're going to shut down.

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Unless you go back to the things we

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were doing before, you know,

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in this country,

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we're going to shut down the government.

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There's no...

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When there's a lack of conversation or

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communication, then you lost the battle,

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right?

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So that's not the answer.

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So I think that...

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The way that we win this is not

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going to be necessarily by the third

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parties.

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That will unfold in time.

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What I'm trying to do for the last

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thirty eight years is empower the

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individual to at least recognize what is

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already inherited there already.

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I'm not giving them anything new.

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I just want them to have an awareness

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that when you have a fever,

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that's a good thing.

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The last thing you want to do is

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stop that fever, right?

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Because your fever is creating antibodies

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that is actually helping fight whatever

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infection, bacterial, viral,

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that your body's going through.

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If you all of the sudden try to

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do something to stop that process,

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now you never really resolve it.

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And guess what?

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You fake your body to think it doesn't

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have to produce it anymore because you're

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going to give them antibodies anyway.

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So, I mean,

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these are the little things that are so

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common sense to us that have been in

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it for a while.

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But to the average person, you know,

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it's like, oh, I have diarrhea.

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I'm getting that petto-bismol.

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Instead of releasing that toxicity,

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whatever you ate, whatever you did,

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your body needs to get rid of.

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So I think that the way we win

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this,

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what is needed is for people to do

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what you're doing through your show,

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what you do through your lectures is to

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keep educating people and encouraging them

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to take the time to learn more about

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where health comes from.

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How do they maintain their health?

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What are the things that are now being

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proven through science that could be

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contributing to your symptoms,

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to your sickness, through your diagnosis?

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I call them opinions.

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I don't call them a diagnosis.

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It's like if you change the word diagnosis

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to an opinion, you can say, well, honey,

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can you believe the doctor's opinion was

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this?

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Instead of, oh,

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I've been diagnosed with that,

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which now all of a sudden I'm going

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to believe.

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It's a label.

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I don't want to be labeled, right?

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And I don't even believe in the concept

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of diagnosis because the problem is once

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you have a diagnosis,

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now there's a treatment protocol that is

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supposed to feed everybody out there.

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And that's what they do.

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you got this diagnosis, okay,

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I'm going to prescribe you this, this,

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and that.

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Everything is cookie science.

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And to me, that should never be.

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It's got to be personalized science.

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It's got to be personalized healthcare.

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And that's what we're moving towards.

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Some people,

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I estimate about twenty percent of the

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American public are in this movement.

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Eighty percent are just beginning to

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awaken

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during the pandemic and are now asking

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questions and beginning to learn more

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about these things.

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That's who I want to talk to.

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I want to talk to that eighty percent

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because that's where disease actually

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lives.

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Say that again.

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That's a big one.

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That's got juice there.

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Well,

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when I started looking as to why is

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it?

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And this happened to me when I was

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president of Parker.

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We had over four hundred employees.

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We went and, you know, insurance,

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as you know, is astronomical.

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So what we did is that we decided

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to do a proactive approach to health.

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and out of my four hundred employees plus,

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the same two or three percent that are

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not going to participate in any incentive

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that we give you.

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We'll pay for your workout, Jim.

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We'll pay for this.

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We'll pay for that.

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No, I'm not going to do it.

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They're the ones that cost us ninety

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percent of the cost.

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They're the ones that had the million

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dollar premiums that year because they got

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cancer, they got some heart disease,

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stroke, whatever.

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So

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And then I found out that over seventy

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percent of the personal bankruptcies in

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the United States in the last few years

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have been all related to health.

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That means that health can actually be or

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is the number one cause for personal

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bankruptcies in the country.

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So that's when I started saying to people,

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what is it going to take for you

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to actually make this a priority in your

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life?

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What is it going to take for you

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to start deciding

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whether I'm going to be healthy tomorrow

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than I was today,

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or I'm going to be unhealthier tomorrow

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than I'm going to be today.

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You have to make that choice.

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It's only you that can make that choice.

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And that's really where I believe that

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people need to.

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But I found that through my research that

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eighty percent of the chronic disease

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leaves.

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in that eighty percent of the public that

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do not subscribe to this paradigm of

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health and well-being,

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that does not subscribe in prevention

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rather than managing symptoms,

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that does not subscribe in,

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let me ask myself the question,

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where is this pain coming from?

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What could have caused that?

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What was I doing at that time?

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Did I eat something?

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Was I in an environment that maybe I

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was surrounded by something that could

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have caused this?

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Did I taste something new?

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Did I try,

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like when my mom calls me and she

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said, honey,

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the doctor recommended this pill in her

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eighties.

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And then,

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but now it causes other symptoms.

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And I said, mom,

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that's your body telling you that you are

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not at a level that can manage some

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of these toxicity in some of these drugs.

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We need to keep you on the natural

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perspective if possible,

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because at your age,

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your body can only handle so much.

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It's already so toxified over eighty years

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of experience.

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So the other thing that I found is

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that once you pass sixty,

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three to four chronic diseases per person.

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Out of that percentage of,

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seventy-six percent of the American public

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has chronic disease,

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if you're sixty and above,

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three or four diseases per person.

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That means you're going to have to take

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an average of seven to nine pills a

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day just to make it through that day,

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and that's not a way to live life.

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No.

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perfectly aligned with my mission of

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de-prescribing ten million unnecessary

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medications.

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Because what we're talking about today,

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we're not telling people to go stop

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medications.

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We're telling them to make them

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unnecessary.

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Lifestyle shifting,

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belief in your own energy and your own

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healing and your own sovereignty to make

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choices.

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is the doctor of the future boom right

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inside you you know and i love that

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you've been on this train for so long

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and you brought in a universal a universal

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theory of the pareto principle in which is

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which is never failed right it is it's

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the laws of the universe the eighty twenty

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rule eighty percent

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You know, and then that twenty percent,

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then it's flywheel, though.

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When we get into twenty seven percent and

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moving into that space, that's whole side.

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You said it in a little bit like

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we all know pharma is feeding all of

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this.

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But now everybody knows that pharma is

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just managing down the symptoms.

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So now when we start awareness.

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which you said and which I've said,

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awareness is first.

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Once you're aware, you can't be unaware,

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but you can choose to be unaware, right?

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There's the choice again.

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You know,

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it's so interesting you mentioned that.

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So to me,

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because I've trained so many thousands of

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doctors and I meet a lot of functional

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medicine doctors and I meet other doctors

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out there over the years,

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I can tell you that almost every doctor

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that I met has a good intention towards

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your body.

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towards your health.

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The problem is how they were trained.

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So a doctor is the only person,

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a medical doctor, that you should go to,

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an osteopath,

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that whoever prescribed the medication is

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not going to prescribe it any longer if

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you don't have those symptoms.

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but now if you go ahead and take

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your responsibility as an individual

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address the root causes that have been

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already identified and in my book i give

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it to you all the science one by

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one this is causing your diabetes this is

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causing your cause negative decline this

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is causing you know uh your weight uh

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gain all of this now all of a

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sudden you can take charge

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You go back to the doctor,

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they redo the blood markers,

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they redo the urine,

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and now they're going to say,

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whatever you're doing is working,

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and they're going to take you off some

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of that medication long term,

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that was prescribed long term.

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So that's the best approach.

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to you to reduce that many medications,

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the only way is not going to be

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for all of those doctors to become

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necessarily aware,

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because the training that they receive is

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already geared towards the pharmaceutical,

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and that's fine.

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And pharmaceutical has its place,

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and it's been amazing in so many areas.

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Problem is,

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it has not worked in chronic disease,

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which is ninety percent of the healthcare

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cost.

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That's what we need to address.

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And I believe the individuals,

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if they don't want to end up bankrupt,

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if they don't want to end up taking

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seven to nine pills after sixty,

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if they don't want to end up so

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symptomatic that they can enjoy the

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quality of life as they get older,

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then they have to take responsibility

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today.

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And that's really what I'm trying to do

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with this book is encourage them,

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empower them to realize that the answer

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has always been within them and not a

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third party out there.

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Bringing that mystical right into the

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science, right?

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The answer's always been there.

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It's always within you.

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And I love it.

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So how can listeners connect with you,

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join your events,

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get a copy of your book, Self-Health?

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Well, if you go to my website,

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drfabmancini.com, in that website,

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you will find that you have the

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opportunity to get over a thousand dollars

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worth of free resources to help you keep

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healthy.

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What I believe is in giving.

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So when you go there,

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you have access to that.

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If you buy the book,

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You also have access to more resources and

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you can go from my website directly to

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Amazon, to Audible, Kindle,

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wherever you want to buy your book from.

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And then you mentioned my events.

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I have had events that are primarily for

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high achievers that want to be healthy

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CEOs, doctors.

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And we're celebrating our tenth

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anniversary, so October twenty-third,

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twenty-fourth, and twenty-fifth,

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we're having our next event for

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Lauderdale, Florida,

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where we would love to invite you.

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And if you go there,

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there's a huge discount on the page as

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an anniversary date.

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We never open this event to the public,

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but because I know your audience is very

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much health seekers.

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If it resonates with you,

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as long as we have those,

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I only expanded the room to fit a

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hundred people extra.

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I know that there's probably another

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thirty seats left or something.

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feel free to get it because this is

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my gift to you because you're here,

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because you're listening,

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because you're supporting this important

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message.

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And that is that we all need to

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celebrate our health and we all need to

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share that with others as much as

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possible.

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I love that.

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And thank you.

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And there's, we, we,

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I think a lot of the mix of

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the listeners here are also providers and

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practitioners learning and getting aware.

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So beautiful.

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And I do believe we're celebrating

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something else on those days, aren't we?

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Well,

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I'm going to actually turn that number.

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Sixty is coming directly towards you.

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And, you know, Josh is amazing.

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A couple of years ago,

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I started with a new chiropractor that

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took my x-rays from brand new full set

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of x-rays.

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I compared it to when I started

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chiropractic school in nineteen eighty

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seven.

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Can you imagine that over thirty years?

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And you would look like they were

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opposite.

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My whole spine has regenerated with no

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signs of osteoarthritis.

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My discs are completely full.

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My curvatures are perfect.

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I have, I mean,

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and even if I do my bio scan

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with my arteries and all that,

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it's so clean.

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I believe that the way you reverse your

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biological age,

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the way that you live in this space

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of longevity, for me,

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I get adjusted once or twice a week

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for the last thirty eight years.

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You add that exercising first thing in the

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morning, mindset exercise every day.

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I do twenty minutes of mindset exercise,

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spirituality,

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where you get to

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Get into your belief system,

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into your faith,

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and understand whether it's meditation or

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your religion.

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Just understand that all religions have

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one thing in common,

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and that's holding you accountable to be a

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better human being.

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It's that all.

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That's simple.

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Tap into that and figure out a way

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of what is it that you can improve

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in your life to be a better human

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being.

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All I can tell you is that if

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you invest that time, energy,

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and money in your health,

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it will be the greatest investment that

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you'll make because your health impacts

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every area of your life more than anything

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else.

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So, so beautifully true.

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Dr. Fab,

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thank you so much for being a part

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of this hundredth episode, this milestone,

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and for reminding us that healing is not

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a miracle.

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It's our nature.

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Here's to the next hundred conversations

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that move humanity beyond the pills.

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Aho!

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Thank you so much.

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This has been such a great, great episode.

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Thank you for your gifts in this world.

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And thank you for making it so simple

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and easy to understand and believe.

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Until next time, everyone stay well.

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