Episode Overview:
In this exciting two-part series, Cinthia Varkevisser and Michelle Walters welcome two incredible guests, Yvette Buigues and Melissa "Scout" Chaidez, who are both animal communicators and healers. Together, they explore the profound connections between humans and animals, discussing the healing power of animal communication and the emotional journeys of both pets and their owners.
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Listeners are encouraged to participate in the contest to win a special session with Cinthia and Michelle, including a reading and hypnosis. Entries are accepted until episode number 111.
Hi, we're Cinthia Varkevisser and Michelle Walters, co-hosts of Mind Power Meets Mystic. Our weekly show is here to expand your mind to what's possible, to uplift your spirits, to move forward with confidence and joy, and to create a space for your collaboration with the invisible. Welcome to Mind Power Meets Mystic.
Hey, hey, hey, welcome to Mind Power Meets Mystic with Michelle Walters, our mind power junkie, and me, Cinthia Varkevisser, the mystic. Today, I'm really excited because we are having a two-part series with these badass bitches that do a lot of animal communication—anything animal that's legal. We have over here, Yvette Wigas, who is an animal communicator and animal healer through cranial sacral exercises as well as Reiki. She's also this amazing artist, and I mean, I fell in love with her crow art. And right here in between us, we have Melissa, I know I just forgot your last name. I was so weird. Melissa Chidaez, I like to call her Scouty. And Scout is this amazing animal communicator, and she also heals a lot of the humans who are really freaked out around the animals that they love so much. So welcome to our show.
Thank you! Thank you. Very exciting.
Yeah, so we are so happy to have you here. I am a dog mom. Cinthia is a cat mom. And I'm sure many of our listeners have pets too. So I would be interested to know from each of you, how did you get to be in this kind of work? It's not work everybody does. How did you get to be in this kind of work?
Scout, how about you go first?
Well, like so many of us, I've been talking to animals my whole life, really, as a young child, and also, you know, plants and trees as well. My mom was like, "Talk to them. Talk to them. They'll grow better." And so I grew up with a huge love of animals. And then, you know, during COVID, sinking into my spirituality, friends said, "Hey, you know you can really talk to animals." And I was like, "Yeah, now I know." And they're like, "No, no, you really can communicate with them on another level." And I was like, "Really?" So I attempted a meditation on a very quiet morning, and I connected with this dog, and he told me so much stuff, I was blown away. And then when I brought him back to his mom, and I said, "This is random, but your dog talked to me. Don't think I'm crazy. I know you probably think I'm crazy, but let me just tell you the story." And so I tell her everything he told me, and she was completely blown away, and so was I, to be honest, and that's how it began, and I haven't stopped since.
Beautiful. And Yvette, how about you?
Me? Well, same as Scout. I've been hearing animals my entire life. I did not have the support as a child to develop it or to even be able to share it, but I kept going with it. And I am a cranial sacral therapist. I worked with humans for almost 30 years, and I had a dog with an injury to his head, and I watched him suffer, and I wanted to help him. It took years, but I finally realized that I could help him with the cranial sacral work I do. The day he passed away, I got an email from an old teacher of mine letting me know that my school had rewritten the curriculum to work with dogs and small animals. So I went back to class for that, and I work on dogs, horses, pigs, chickens—if it has a spine, I'll work on it. And through that, because I'm quiet when I'm working, the communication really comes up, and they get very chatty with me. I've had dogs have emotional releases, like just letting go—audible whining, crying, emotional. It's fantastic work. The art that I do, I do a lot of portraits of animals, and they will communicate with me through the painting. So I'll end up taking notes, and I'll change things in the painting according to what they want. Sometimes when my clients see the painting, they're taken aback. I didn't ask for that. And I'm like, "No, but Rover did." And they're like, "You know, I see why."
What I love is that, okay, humans are supposedly the clients, but that is so not the case. The case is that the animals are the clients, even with the artwork, even with the algorithm, and with the animals being the clients, the humans actually get to heal as well. The humans don't understand—human beings, I'll stick with humans—they don't understand that it's not always directly about them.
Exactly, it's not about them. So what I'd love to know is, have you had any pet owners realize that they're not pet owners, that this is a true relationship, and that by you healing their animal, you've actually helped them out as well?
Oh, I don't know about you, but every time I did a little experiment in my office once where I set my cranial sacral table for people up again, and I told people in the neighborhood that if you come in for a session, bring your dog, and I'll work on both of you. Nine out of ten times what I found in the dog, I found in the person. It was amazing to me. It was huge education for me and hopefully for my clients, who could then change maybe some of their behaviors or keep their energy to themselves perhaps a bit better.
Yeah, I recently just had a reading where the dog is afraid of everybody. He's three. He's terrified of everybody, except for a very small core group of people. And her son also has social anxiety, and it's all emanating from her. That was kind of, honestly, a little bit opposite of what you're saying. But a lot of the issues with the animal can be related to the owner or the guardian, and if they change their energy, they can help their animals.
Yeah, absolutely. They're sponges. Yes, they're sponges, and they're healers. They want, I don't know, let's say they sense that maybe their person has a kidney issue, and they absorb it because they're wanting to heal, and they may end up also with a kidney issue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had that in my work too, where I'm not an animal communicator. I just want you to know I happily leave that to you all, but we do have some talks, and it never fails that your animals are an extension of you. And, you know, we have these big bodies, and even the big dogs, their bodies are smaller, and they actually absorb at a rate that's bigger than what we absorb. Wow. And they don't, because they don't have objections.
So we object to some things, right? Or we're stubborn, and they're not. They're completely open, which is why it's bigger on the animals.
Yeah. So I want to remind all of our listeners that you are here with us today on Mind Power Meets Mystic with me, Michelle Walters, and my podcast partner, Cinthia Varkevisser. We have two, not one, but two animal people on our show today: Scout Chaidez, am I saying that right? Yes, yes, okay. And Yvette Wigas. So welcome to the second half of this show. I'm wondering if each of you could share a really kind of outstanding or special moment that you had in communicating with a particular animal, maybe one that was an unusual animal, or they told you something that you found surprising or unexpected, but something curious.
Oh, yeah, well, I've had a few. I had one that was kind of funny where I had just gotten back from a trip. My husband and I used to take our dogs to the dog park on the weekend. Every once in a while, he'd drop me off at Costco, and I'd do some stuff, and then after the dog park, they'd pick me up. So while I was in line, I was like, "Oh, I wonder how the walk went?" So I chimed into one of my dogs, Cecil, and I asked Cecil, "So how's the walk today?" And he was like, "It was good." I'm like, "Did you run into anybody I know?" And he was like, "Oh, we saw Debbie." I got that he saw Debbie. I'm like, "Oh, great. So she gave you a cookie." And he was like, "It wasn't a good cookie. I didn't eat it." I was like, "Oh, all right." So then, you know, I text my husband, I tell him that I'm on my way out. He picks me up, and I'm like, "So, babe, did you guys run into anybody at the park that I know?" And he's like, "Oh, yeah, we saw Debbie." I'm like, "Oh, did Debbie give Cecil a cookie?" He's all, "Yeah, but Cecil spit it right out. It was terrible. He didn't eat it." So, I mean, that's a little one. And I've had some pretty profound ones around animal death, where, you know, I've had animals ask me to be let go. I had my own cat tell me that she wanted me to keep her bones when we had to let her go. She wanted to do it on her own. I have a feeling that had the vet and Marion shown up an hour later, she would have gone. But she wanted me to keep her bones, and I had no idea how I was going to do that. She made it happen. I don't know, but someone called me wanting to say goodbye to my cat, a friend of mine who I never really thought she knew I had a cat. So I let her come over, and as we're chatting about it, I tell her that my cat wants me to keep the bones, and I still don't know how I'm going to do it. She's like, "My next-door neighbor has beetles." Oh, wow. What are the chances here? What are the chances? My cat orchestrated the whole thing, because that's how that cat did things. I could be working on a client when I had my home office, and I'd forget my clock, and I'd be like, "Oh," and I just think of my cat, and I'd let her know. I'd ask her, "Can you please let me know when I'm done?" and she'd come into the room two minutes to spare, like clockwork, and remind me that it was time to go. Love that cat. Crazy.
Yeah, very cool. Yeah. Same here. All kinds of stories, I guess. One during COVID, the dog was a regular boarder of mine. I checked in with him. He said, "You know, it's great the family's all sitting down outside, around the table to have dinner every night. I love that we're all together. But my dad picked up all my toys and he put them in the garage, in this cabinet, and I want them back. And I'm really upset about it." And this dog was very particular about his toys, like he would come stay with me, and he'd come with a bag of his food and a bag of his toys, and they were his toys. And so I told the mom, and she was like, "Oh my God, he did, my husband did. He was tripping on him. He was walking on them, and he was afraid we were going to fall. I'll go get them out. Soon as we get home, I will bring them out." Thank you.
Yeah. And then, you know, sure, pets that have crossed over have been very moving, very emotional. You know, myself and the client, both in tears and talking about memories and special moments that they'll share. And you tell the client, "Oh yeah, what's this about the water? He went to the water and he had a bandana on," and he said, "Oh my God, yes, we went camping. It was the first time he had been in water, and it was the most amazing thing, and I taught him how to swim, and it was our thing from there on forward." And I mean, you just feel like you get to be part of the client and the animal's life in such a special way. It's very moving. And I will never forget these people or these pets, because I had the honor to share those moments with them. It's really how I felt, because I see it happening through the dog's eyes, you know? And so I feel it, you know? I feel that love, I feel that devotion. And yeah, I often cry, sharing with Yvette. I've tried not to cry, and she was like, "Ah, heck, I just cried." I'm like, "Okay, me too." From now on, I'm just going to cry. I just felt like it wasn't professional. But it's hard, you know? It's wonderful.
I actually want to take that one step further. And I love animal communicators, because they're so damn sensitive. You guys are so, so sensitive, and it's almost like humans are abrasive, you know? Like their energy is too big, too abrasive. And I would love to hear more about your take on it, because I just see how sensitive you are, and I have to be very gentle, right? If I'm talking with you for reading in certain areas, but I believe that that's the reason you're really great animal communicators, and I'm not.
Well, the state of California, for example, animals are property, right? I have never seen an animal as being anybody's property, but we do treat them as property. That dog belongs to me, my dogs. I feed them, I take care of them—they don't belong to me. They're my equals. Yes, I do have to give them boundaries to keep them safe, but they're my equals. And I listen to them, and I try to give them choice. When I walk into a room with a new animal, I give them their space, I let them come to me. They're not toys. I have gone to see clients with very frightened dogs, and I've sat on the floor with dogs barking at me for 45 minutes. And it's, I just sit and I let them get it all out. And the owner's embarrassed, but I'm like, "Oh, this is why I'm here. We're going to work on that," and I just need to let the dog explain what's happening, and we just give them space to be themselves because they aren't extensions of us. They are their own thing.
Yeah, yeah. I think so. I've been feeling into that as well. I think you're correct, and I believe, at least for myself—and I'm betting for you—there is a heightened level of sensitivity that I have. I do believe it's probably trauma-induced sense, and because of the trauma I endured as a child, my senses heightened to protect myself. And so I can walk into a room, and I can feel energy. I'm very observant. I'm constantly watching and scanning, especially animals or nature. I'm just instantly plugged in. And yeah, it's a safe place for me. It's a retreat, and I feel like they're my people.
Yeah, like I feel like I relate better to the animals.
And what she said.
No, you really do. They really do relate better to animals. And I really do believe it's because humans are a bit more abrasive, that their energy's a bit—I'm not sure if it's strong—it's not as trustworthy.
Yes, and so, right? It's, and the human's energy is complicated, because it's never a true thing.
Right. Question—do animals lie?
Humans lie?
That's a good question.
Do animals lie? Well, I mean, um, they'll say, "I've eaten" or "No, I've not eaten" when they have eaten, yeah, like that, yeah, but I haven't encountered any other lies. How about you?
So occasionally, like little fibs to get with them. Like, "No, I haven't starved. Feed me. Feed me. No, he didn't feed me."
Yeah. And then I've heard the same things, like the feed me thing. But, um, so maybe kind of like a kid would lie? Is that kind of like a little kid would lie?
Yeah, because that little kid would lie, not like an adult would lie, but like a little kid, like a kid. Like, "You're not going to lie about how..." Yeah, but little fibs, they're, yeah, they could be fibbers.
And we did have—I did have a foster dog who, I'm trying to remember exactly how it came about that she wanted to stay with us. And I can't remember exactly what it was, but I was like, "Oh, I think I just caught her in a lie." Wow. And yeah, oh my god, sorry guys, no.
I don't, yeah. That's the kind of lie that I would think of like a little kid, right? You know, they might lie to say, "No, the babysitter, you know, put us to bed at the right time," even when exactly, you know that wasn't really the case. They want that to be the case because they thought that would maintain the peace, they get more of what they wanted.
Yes. And I don't know how many times I've gotten home, and my husband thinks I haven't walked the dogs. I'm like, "Oh no, they're exhausted. They all went on walks today," and he's like, "Oh, I took him on a walk too." I'm like, "They tricked you!" So, yeah, they're like that, yeah, yeah, that kind of thing.
Good. Good question. I love that.
How about the other side of it? Where do you, do you really pay attention to your animals? And I'm talking about everywhere, right? To help you decide the honesty level of a human being?
Yes, yeah, yes, right? Yeah. And how do you do that? How do you do that, and what do you see? Because I would love the audience to start paying attention, yes, right? To their four-legged friends, their furry kids. You know, we're talking about this the other day, meditating with your animals. I do, I sit, but before every walk we go on, I sit quietly with them for maybe 10 minutes, all three of them, and I just—I'm not communicating. I'm just relaxing and centering myself so that when we leave the house, we're all centered. When my—not to throw my husband under the bus—but there are times when Chuck will walk the dogs, and I'll hear them barking two blocks away, and they're just like, "Oh, we're having such a grand old time on this walk," barking at everybody. And I'm like, "That does not happen with me." But you were talking about, you do the same thing.
Yes, yeah. Well, if I hear my dogs and they're with somebody else, I'm, you know, it's like a mother and their child, and you hear your child cry, you're like, "What? What?" Same thing. But tips for people, yeah, I think, you know, watching your animals at home. And if they're displaying any kind of a different behavior, to note that. Or if, you know, I think correlating it with anything that's new in the house—a lot of people don't think about how it affects their animals, and that always upsets me, because they're being in the home just like I am, and they're going to feel whatever happens in the home just like I am, and they're going to have feelings about that, and it may, you know, cause some behavioral issues or, you know, any kind of thing. And so I think just being in tune with them on the daily, and I think it's great to check in with them, yeah.
And get to know them, because we go through the motions with our animals. Walk time is at this time; we set up a routine feeding. But observe them and just sit quietly and watch them and see what they're like and who they are. Yeah, they have a lot—they have a lot to teach us and to show us.
That's going to bring us to the end of this particular episode for Mind Power Meets Mystic. Thank you so much, ladies, for coming to visit our show. We wanted to remind everybody we have a contest going on. If you would like to win Mind Power Meets Mystic, the project, which is a very, very special Zoom call with Cinthia doing a reading for a half an hour, and then me doing a hypnosis for a half an hour, where you get to take home your recording—both a Zoom one as well as just the audio of the hypnosis one. We have a contest going on until episode number 111, so don't wait until the end. Submit your entry now, because somebody is gonna win, and it could be you. Thank you, and we'll continue our conversation with the animal ladies in part two. You've been listening to Mind Power Meets Mystic.