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However, theoretically, if I got to write a Manifesto, there are 4 main areas I would focus on:
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:Hello.
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:You're welcome to if I were the
minister for education from anseo.net.
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:A regular podcast where I look at the
world of primary education in Ireland
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:and let you know, what I would do if
I were the minister for education.
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:On this week's show my election manifesto
for the general election of:
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:Hello, this is Simon Lewis from
anseo.net with an other episode of if
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:I were the minister for education, and
this is a general election special.
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:Now, before you start
worrying, please do not worry.
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:I have not put my name forward for
the general election on November 29th.
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:I'm sure you'll all agree.
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:You already put up with enough of me.
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:I absolutely have to say I admire
anyone that puts themselves forward
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:to the people of this country.
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:On whether or not, I
agree with their policies.
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:It's definitely a brave
and vulnerable thing to do.
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:I'm absolutely not brave
enough to do that right now.
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:I'm even struggling on social
media, nevermind politics, where I
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:I'm thinking about leaving X, like
everybody else seems to have a,
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:the reason I haven't left already.
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:I'm not thinking of leaving acts
because of any political reasons.
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:You know, the Elon Musk, Donald Trump, a
lot of people are leaving because of that.
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:For me, it's simply because I just don't
think you can have a discussion anymore.
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:On.
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:Twitter or ax.
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:Without it descending very
quickly into mud slinging.
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:I don't use that platform
for that or any platform.
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:For that I like to have.
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:Engagement with people.
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:I'd like to have robust discussions when
people don't agree with me or do agree
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:with me and we can solve problems and
get different points of view across.
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:And I had this.
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:Funny experience.
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:I was playing around with
different social medias, like
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:LinkedIn and Instagram and threads
and blue sky and things like that.
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:I'm not quite sure where, what I'm
going to do, but I basically have to
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:feel, I have to start all over again.
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:I think when my biggest problems
is my ego, maybe, you know, there's
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:18,000 people that I've built up
as let's say followers, but it
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:just it's, that's just my ego.
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:I need to, if I have to start again.
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:I have to start again, but anyway, back
to this story I was on and the difference
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:between let's say what Twitter became has
become, and on my experience on LinkedIn,
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:I put up one of my posts on Twitter and
needless to say, I received you know, this
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:particular users who just think it's okay
to tell me To go back to my own country
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:or comment on my Jewish background and
tell me that I'm not properly Irish,
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:all that kind of nonsense is not.
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:I don't know.
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:A few years ago when that happened
for the first time, like the.
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:The president of the INTO rang
me to wish me solidarity along
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:Whereas now it's just a weekly
occurrence and you know, no one
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:says a word about, I was just, but
I posted the same thing on LinkedIn.
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:It was around religion in schools.
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:Replied to us and she was, you
know, he put in an argument ad
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:And he then responded thing.
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:That's thanks Simon.
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:That clarifies things really well.
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:Thank you.
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:I don't think we agree on everything,
but that's look forward to chatting
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:to you about this at some other time.
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:And I was like, wait, are you not going
to call me worse than Hitler or something?
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:Twitter has become a,
maybe it's probably time.
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:To say goodbye.
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:Anyway, that's why I'm not going
to get into the world of political.
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:So I can't even handle a few pot shots
from anonymous people on Twitter.
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day in the world of politics and
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politics and the world's Twitter.
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attacks and some of the personal
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:commentary on politicians.
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going to be going for the Dáil,
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:it means I'm not going to be the
minister for education for sometime.
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:So I'm going to do a podcast.
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:Of theoretical policies.
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:I would propose if I was able
to lead the education portfolio.
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universe that I didn't have to be elected
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:And we'll see what you think as always,
I'm only going to focus on primary level.
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second level for education, there's some
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:really good people still around on ax.
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:Just the way things are going, but I
can just name three secondary school
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:teachers who talk about education at
this sort of level in terms of analysis
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:Humphrey Jones and Judy and
girdle, and also Connor Murphy.
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lot of sense at the moment.
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:Quill as well as another dash.
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:I just would recommend to the ITO.
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because they have gone with 30.
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:Election manifesto items, 30 items.
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:But I'm going to go to focus on
three areas for my manifesto.
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:Three is possibly manageable and
they are, and you won't be surprised
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:to hear any of these because I
talk about them all the time.
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:Patronage special education and funding.
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:Which seems to be a principal's number one
concern at the moment ads, teacher supply.
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:But the area I believe is quite complex.
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:I believe it's going to be, it's
rooted in lots of different areas.
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:Including the three areas,
I'll be talking about it.
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shortages in all of those areas.
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:And if you are interested, I
have written about the teacher
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:shortage crisis on my medium blog.
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:And in fact, the show notes
for this podcast are on medium
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:and you can read this alarm.
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:It might be shorter than this podcast
episode, but the article you'd
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:be looking for is where are all
the primary school teachers where
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:I give and maybe an alternative
theory to why we have a teacher.
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:Teacher shortage.
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:Onto my manifesto.
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:I am worse than a politician.
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:I haven't said a word Yashin.
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:How many minutes have gone by.
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:Anyway, we'll start off with number one.
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:Our, my manifesto and that is patronage.
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be surprised to hear that.
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:If I could make one change
to the education system, it
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:would be to scrap patronage.
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:I talk about it.
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:So incessantly to the point that I'm
sure people avoid me in the street.
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:However, I genuinely believe that if there
is a single root of every single problem
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:in the education system, despite it being
a very complex system, removing patrons
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:completely from the education system.
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:I believe would unravel a large
percentage of the issues we have.
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:I've often compared to the
education system at primary level
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:to Christmas decorations and the
edge closer to Christmas seasons.
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:I can use this analogy.
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:And it's where I believe you
get your Christmas decorations.
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:You put them up the first time you have
an education system, and then you throw
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:the the decorations up in the attic.
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:And when you bring them down,
they're all covered in nuts.
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:And then you try it on tangle or not.
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:And that creates another notch
and that creates another notch.
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:And after a while you just
go ask, do you know what?
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:Throw it over the tree
and hope for the best.
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:I think that's what our education
system of primary never looks like Bush.
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:If you were to have removed the biggest
nut I would say patronage position.
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me speak about it, They tend to
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blame people because most of my
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:ire is with religious bodies.
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:What they do and how they
control the education system.
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:And it's not surprising
because 96% of patron bodies
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entirely focusing on religion because
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a modern 21st century Republic that
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:religion plays so much of a parcel in the
education system when it plays no part
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:in the daily lives of the vast majority
of people's jobs or lives anywhere.
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:The fact that a primary school teacher,
most degree to effectively become
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:a missionary in most denominational
schools by leading prayer, preparing
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:children for right to passages like
sacraments and providing own objective.
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:Faith forming lessons.
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in most parts of the world.
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Europe, as far as I know.
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good podcast, a friend of mine
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:McSherry his podcasts, Louise McSherry
see, I think, I don't know her very well,
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And it was just interesting.
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pseudo sort of almost outsider to Ireland,
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by the air, by the signs of things, how.
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:She, how bizarre she finds
the education system.
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:So much, so she avoided sending her own.
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:Child or children to a denominational
schools because she just finds
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:it bizarre that we would you
know, the word is indoctrinated.
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:I know that word indoctrination is being
used for other political purposes, but
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she does not have to her children.
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her and to me and to Eva.
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religion here because when I say
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the education system, all patrons.
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not just the ones I don't like
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There are a handful of non-religious patrons in Ireland are most of
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under community national school model.
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biggest, bigger ones is on first Patrina.
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patron body, although many of their
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:There is saplings, which is this
type of special skills skill Sinead,
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:which is I think they have one
school and then there are others.
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:For those of you don't know what
a patron does, their main job.
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create something that is known as the
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:characteristic spirit of the school.
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and whether that's a religious
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:leaning of the school, the language.
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:Of the school or other types
of characteristics that make
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:us the type of school it is.
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:Their focus is on language and that is the
Irish language and that is their ethos.
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:Patron buddy act more as a buffer.
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:Ah it might have its ethos
or its characteristics bears.
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:I see it as more of a buffer and
it simply aids the state in dodging
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:its responsibilities are providing a
properly functioning education system.
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system, we look at the constitution.
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:At the moment it states that the
government provides for education.
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:It provides for education.
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:That tiny three letter word is
why we have a patronage model.
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:The state is responsible for
providing money to patron bodies,
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:to run their network of schools.
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buildings, which is why the department
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:of education effectively gift something
like 5 billion Euro a year to the Catholic
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:church and gifted to them for free.
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this network of boards of management,
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:Volunteers who all manage, who are off.
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:Forced to voluntarily manage all aspects
of one school, each these eight people.
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school is a private entity, or I
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root of everything bad in
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:Schools in many ways are no different
from businesses despite being
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:about 95%, the same as each other.
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:So if you look at close shots, for
example, as a business, most clothes
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:shops are pretty much the same.
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:But they are all competing
with each other for survival.
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:Schools, income, unlike clothing shops,
their income is dependent on the number
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:of children that attend their schools.
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:So depending on how many children
attend your school, It depends.
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:On the amount of income you guys
and the number of staff you have
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:also depends on the number of
children that attend the school.
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:And this creates a system where if
there are more, if there's more than
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:one school in a particular area or a
catchment area, They are all vying for
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:those same children in order to survive.
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:If you have no children,
you have no teachers and you
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:Whether or not the schools have the
same patron body over them or not.
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:In most cases, they are still
competing with each other.
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:So even Catholic schools will
compete with other Catholic schools.
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:However, when you add that ingredient
of patronage into the mix, it does add
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:another layer of competitiveness because
two Catholic schools, in some ways there's
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choice between those two schools
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:Catholic schools, for example, which are
the vast majority of schools try their
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:In my view I don't think
most conflict schools are.
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:You know, Very Catholic anymore.
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:I think most people, I don't think
that's the in fact it's probably
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:the least controversial thing
I've said about Catholic schools.
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a really good job of pleasing.
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:The majority of people, essentially,
most Catholic schools right now run a
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both their patron arms, their clients.
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mean parents rather than children,
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what school their child enrolls.
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:The vast majority of clients
are, what can kindly be called?
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:Cultural Catholics.
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fair to say the vast majority of
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:Catholics in Ireland do not believe
in the tenants of Catholicism.
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and dispatches, so birth.
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the weddings and the dispatchers,
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:But they can effectively outsource to
other rights passages to the school,
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:namely the communion and confirmation,
which don't rhyme with hatch match or
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:dispatch without having to take any
responsibility for preparing their
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:own children for those sacraments.
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:So if you are a parent and you do
the baptism, you ag and outsource,
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the communion and the confirmation
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:At the church very often.
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:For those clients, these parents that
they want children to speak Irish.
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to the school as many do, without
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for learning the language themselves.
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:It strikes me as very interesting, the
number of parents that enrolled their
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:children to Escalona but then send it
to English, medium secondary schools.
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time and I have my own theories.
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that children, if you go to a Gwalia.
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medium primary school.
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is is the failure there.
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gamification of the patron and system.
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:By those two examples where
parents use the system to gain a
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:Parents that don't have choices,
which is generally anyone that doesn't
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:subscribe to Catholicism wherever they
are on the spectrum of devoutness the
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:patronage model is just, ah, lottery.
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:For a Muslim family that wants
a Muslim school for third child,
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are willing to travel to Dublin.
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:The patronage model is no use to them.
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:They have no choice.
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:For a family that needed to send
their child to a non-religious school.
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:For example, they have to hope
that they live in an area where
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currently three counties where there isn't
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:Almost half the counties in
Ireland have fewer than two.
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choice is not something.
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:There is only one primary school in Carla
that has a multi-denominational school.
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:I don't think I could consider myself
having a choice because I don't,
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:I cannot send my child or I cannot
work in any other school in Carlo
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:because I do not, I will not be able
to uphold the ethos and those risks
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:myself of being fired for that.
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:I do not want my child.
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:Being given messages in a religion,
I don't, I do not subscribe to and
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:have no interest in subscribing him
to, and I have no interest in him
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:sitting hint in the back of a classroom
for half an hour, a day on 13 for
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:more during the sacrament season.
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:And I don't like him being a guest
or a visitor in his own classroom.
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:However, religion aside,
the patronage model has an
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:effect on all sorts of things.
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:And let's forget the religion for a
minute, because these are other things
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:Both transport insurance,
special education.
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:And more, for example, on bus transport,
my child doesn't attend his two
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:most local primary schools because
they're both have a religious ethos.
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:And because the nearest school
that matches our conscience is
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:over six kilometers from our house.
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:We are entitled to bus
transport to the school.
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:I don't use the bus, but I could
particularly if I was working from home
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:and has no other job, I could shove
them on a bus in the morning, rather
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:than walking to his nearest school.
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:Anyway, school insurance is another model.
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:One schools are grouped by
insurance companies by their
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:patron buddy or diocese.
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:This means that if you happen to go to a
school in one diocese, your school could
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:Premium.
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:That a school that is part
of on first Patreon, Okta.
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:It's baffling to me that this
happens to different schools,
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:have different insurance premiums.
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:And I wouldn't blame you if you didn't
believe me, but it is absolutely true.
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actually wrote to audience who are there.
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insurance in Ireland for schools.
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:And they refuse to divulge that
information, which effectively
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:told me that I was right.
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:Because if everyone was paying the same
level of insurance, they would have
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:Anon.
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:And by now, I imagine you can
see why I obsess over patronage.
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problems than solutions.
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:And if we scrapped patronage, children
would simply go to their nearest
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:primary school and it would allow the
department of education to plan education
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:properly because they would know
exactly which children will be going to,
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:which primary school well in advance.
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:And as you can imagine, this would make
things much easier when it comes to
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:Special education.
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school principals, what their top five
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of them said patronage.
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:On the other hand, if 100% of
them didn't say special education
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school in Ireland that hasn't been
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for children with additional needs
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to the subject where I try to figure
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:out where it all went wrong and
then try to suggest some solutions.
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that needs to be fixed very quickly.
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of children who didn't get the resources
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:on how they needed to manage the education
system and beyond the education system.
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to have a teaching assistant.
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:And this is the main thrust of my
manifesto for special education.
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two things, I would change.
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:If I were the minister for education,
the first is, you know, would be
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:patronage, but the second would
be that every classroom needs
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:to have a teaching assistant.
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little bit more about that.
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:Because to me, a teaching
assistant reminds me of an iPod.
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phones and I think everybody
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, but it was somewhere in the:
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Steve jobs came onto the stage and
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:introduce the world's, the iPad.
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would see the teaching assistants
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:as the same thing, the space between
the teacher on the SNA and the set.
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:This is the second adult in the classroom
that helps the teacher that assist
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:the teacher for lots and for anything
more or less a data add any, adapt,
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:the set or SNA aren't going to do and
would save us a lot of time and money.
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:It's the smaller jobs.
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:It's the ones where they're helping.
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:The group of children, it's bringing the
child who, who needs to be, who needs.
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:Who's a dysregulated out of the
classroom for a minute to, to
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:calm down or to have a chat.
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:It is the person who will
do your displays for you.
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:It is the person who will
do a movement break with.
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:With a child sit with the child, help the
child access the work in the classroom.
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:They can do, they can assist the teacher.
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:And anyway they can, and every
classroom should have one.
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:And funnily enough, Every classroom in
many countries in the, in Europe have one.
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:We caught up.
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:Because every classroom needs to have
a teaching assistant as well as the
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:teacher, because low level needs have
to be managed in a classroom and it
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:can't be done by one person anymore.
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:And low-level needs today are not
the same as the low level needs.
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:They once were.
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:Low-level needs are not really low on
a teaching assistant is really needed.
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:Anyway, after that every school needs
to have onsite access to a nurse,
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:a psychologist, or a counselor,
or maybe both and a social worker.
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:Big schools would probably need more
than one psychologist or counselor.
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:And I'd also suggest that every
school would have access to therapies
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:such as occupational therapy,
speech and language therapy,
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:dieticians play therapies, and so on.
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:I don't believe it's realistic to
expect one for every single school.
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:So I would expand the role of the
special needs assistant to include
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:basic therapeutic interventions, like
occupational therapy and speech and
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:language therapy, which could be which
could be, it could be, you could get
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:one of those senior people to advise.
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:And SNA on the basics on every so
often the occupational therapists
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:and speech and language therapists
will come into the school to update.
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:The various interventions and so on.
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:So I really think these wraparound
services like nurses, psychologists,
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:counselors, social workers, speech, and
language therapists, all the rest of them.
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:These are.
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:More.
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:Really important because if you can
catch children before they fall off
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:the cliff, because that is the only
way they're supported these days.
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:I think in the long run you would
save a huge amount of money.
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:And to me, the above alone
would fix a huge number of
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:issues with special education.
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:I also think of my manifesto.
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:That we would have to have a bit of a look
at special classes and whether they're
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:actually a positive solution in schools.
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:We've simply just opened them up without
thought research on special passes,
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:suggest they may not be the right tool.
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:What about the role of special
schools and what do we need to do
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:to ensure their support or property?
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:I'd have to have a look at that.
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:In my manifesto.
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:I think it says something that
again is poorly supported.
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:We need to give special schools
what they need instead of
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:offering little breadcrumbs.
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:I know the IPP and are very proud
of giving the administrative
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:status to deputy principals.
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:And I'm sure it's welcome.
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:But that is not the solution.
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:To special schools.
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:It is not, the solution is not
even close to the solution.
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:It's breadcrumbs.
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:I would also, I think we should look
at the full inclusion model, but it
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:would also need to be properly resourced
because if it isn't, it will fail.
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:In my podcast, I said special
education will be the scandal
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:of the 21st century in Ireland.
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:And we will talk about it in the
same breath as we do the sexual abuse
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:and physical abuse crimes of the
Catholic church in the 20th century.
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:We need to fix special education now,
and it's going to take a lot of thought.
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:And a lot of money.
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:Look at that segue into
my third manifesto piece.
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:Funding.
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:One of the most curious pieces of
funding every budget day in Ireland
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:is the grant that is given to
horse racing and Greyhound racing.
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:And this year it was 99.1 million Euro.
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:The justification for this is that
without that almost 100 million Euro
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:grant, the Greyhound industry would
collapse and it needs to be propped up.
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:Now, whatever your opinion on Greyhound
drives racing is my point is that when
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:it comes to other sectors in Ireland,
The funding that is given is supposed
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:to ensure that the sector can function.
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:And when it comes to education,
it seems to be an exception.
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:Because we don't prop it up at all.
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:And while one might argue they haven't
heard of a school going bankrupt.
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:This is generally because of the
Goodwill of parents propping up the
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:system through fees, fundraising,
volunteering, and donations.
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:There are very few, if any primary schools
in Ireland that are properly financially
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:resourced, most primary schools have to
make choices between hiring a keener on a
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:caretaker because they can't afford both.
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:And whatever one they choose,
most schools can only afford
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:one on a very part-time basis.
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:Even very big schools, smaller schools.
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:Haven't got a hope.
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:Most primary schools have to hope that
the weather remains warm enough, so they
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:don't have to switch on the heating and
even if they do, and even when they do,
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:they often can only heat the building
for a very short time and asked the
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:children and staff to wear extra layers.
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:I don't know too many other public
services that require that most primary
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:schools have to wait until their essential
services such as boilers and alarms
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:fully break down because they don't get.
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:N a funding to keep them maintained.
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:And when they fully break down, they
can apply for emergency funding, but
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:there's no guarantee of that until they
have to threaten to close the school.
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:And many schools ring the department
of education so much that it's
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:really hard to find the phone number.
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:Now, I think you actually have to
email them or use some online form.
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:And three days later, while
you have a broken alarm, you
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:have to send children home.
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:And I don't know, it's mad.
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:There's a famous saying that teaching
is the only profession in the world
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:where you steal from your home in
order to be able to do your work.
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:Most teachers are working from
laptops that they're either their
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:own, or are several years out of date.
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:Teachers have to buy basic resources
like whiteboard, markers, crayons,
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:and everything else because schools
don't have the budget to pay for them.
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:I've actually heard of some teachers
that buy food and clothes for children
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:in their class, from their own pockets,
because teachers are good people in.
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:General, but they do not have the money
to help the children in their class.
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:So they end up doing it, but paying for
stuff like that from their own pockets.
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:To me, the funding model is
primarily linked to the patronage
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:model where the department of
education provides for education.
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:And if we took that word for,
we could see a system where the
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:state would be responsible for
funding, everything a school needed.
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:Whether that's the utility bills,
transport for swimming, insurance,
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:school lunches, caretakers, and so on.
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:Interestingly, there are nine
primary schools in Ireland that
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:have this actual model where the
state pays for all this stuff.
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:And they are called muddle schools.
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:And I would suggest if you
don't know what model schools
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:are, is that you look them up.
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:They have a very
interesting model, indeed.
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:And in fact, such an interesting
model, I think it's worth exploring.
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:I may do a podcast on the model
schools, their history, and
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:how they work and function.
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:Their patron is the minister for education
and they are a very good model to show how
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:the system could work in terms of funding.
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:But possibly little owls.
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:However for now, if we're going
to have to get funding from
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:the department of education.
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:Essentially, it's pretty simple.
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:You should treat us like Ray hounds.
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:So that are my three.
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:Malachi and manifesto pieces.
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:I wonder what you think of them.
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:I didn't actually talk about
teacher shortages, so maybe I
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:should add that is my fourth one.
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:I would say that it isn't just
about paying teachers more,
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:although that would help.
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:We are competing with teachers who
are going out for better conditions,
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:but we're also need to be looking at
other reasons why we have a shortage of
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:teachers because we are training enough
teachers to keep the system going.
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:It's just, teachers
are leaving the system.
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:I think some people think they're all
abroad making something themselves
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:in Saudi Arabia and told third Dubai.
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:Anyway, I don't think
they're in Saudi Arabia.
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:They're in Dubai and all
sorts of other countries.
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:But a lot of them are leaving
and doing other things.
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:I was at the IPP N this year and the
amount of teachers, former registered
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:teachers who are now working in private.
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:Businesses.
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:It was quite surprising to me.
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:They keep their teaching council number.
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:In case they want to go back.
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:But a lot of them are not working in
the private sector and doing very well.
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:And I think that's great for them.
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:The thing is most, most people, of
my generation started in teaching and
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:probably will end in teaching most people
of this generation that are outworking now
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:have several jobs throughout their career.
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:And far Paige them.
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:I think it's one of the
reasons why we have a shortage.
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:We are competing with other
jobs now people would find
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:working from home much more.
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:Attractive.
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:Than that say the holidays that we
got because fact I was chatting to
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:somebody who was working in Spain was
basically in Spain for the winter.
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:And was working from other holiday
home and going to the swimming pool and
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:having a lovely time doing their job.
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:And they flew over every month or
so to Ireland, to the office, to.
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:Tell everyone they realize,
I think, I don't know, but.
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:We are competing with much more
interesting work conditions.
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:Working from home allows people
to mind their children, if they're
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:sick and all the rest of it.
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:I think the teacher shortage
isn't as easy as money.
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:I think there's a lot going on patronage.
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:Falls into it.
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:Special education falls into a two.
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:Because again, There are reasons
why people don't go into teaching.
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:And not because of the children
particularly, but because of the systems
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:that make it so difficult to teach in
primary schools now, So there you, how
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:much my election manifesto with a bonus?
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:One on the teacher shortage.
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:I hope you've enjoyed
my election manifesto.
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:Vote for me.
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:No, I'm only joking.
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:I'm not going for action.
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:Don't worry.
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:I really.
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:I hope you've enjoyed this.
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:And if I do become the minister for
education at some point, and now, you
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:know what I'll be doing, so now you
now if I do go, then you can vote for
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:me and hopefully I'll get all those
things over the line just for you.
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:Thanks so much for listening.
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:The chat to you again soon.
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:All the very best.
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:Bye-bye.