This week’s guest is Genesis Amaris Kemp. She’s a visionary life coach, motivational speaker and podcast founder.

Genesis started out working in hospitals and intended to go to medical school. But, she ended up spending over a decade in the oil and gas industry. Her first role was as an imaging clerk (scanning papers all day!). Through curiosity, networking and learning, Genesis ended up in project and program management. In fact, she did it again when she went to work for a Fortune 500 company showing what real grit and humility is needed to start anew.

In late 2020, Genesis lost her job just one week following her father’s death. She took the opportunity to self-reflect and ultimately realized what her gifts are and how she could monetise them. In doing so she became an entrepreneur. 

In May 2020, Genesis’ book, “Chocolate Drop in Corporate America: From the Pit to the Palace” was published. You’ll hear about the inspirational read about overcoming systemic racism in the workplace and climbing the corporate ladder. 

Genesis also hosts the GEMS podcast. Episodes are a mis of solo episodes and coffee chat style conversations with guests to educate, inspire, and motivate listeners. DEIB is also a theme of the show.

Get to know Genesis in this episode!

Note from Rabiah (Host): 

Genesis and I chatted a while ago but due to some theme months and a backlog, I did not get this one edited until now. When it is a while between a chat and an edit, I feel like I’m experiencing the conversation again for the first time and this was the right time to hear her story again. We dig into going through job and life changes and also chat about diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. I hope you’ll enjoy and learn from this one.

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Find Genesis

Website: https://beacons.ai/genesisamariskemp

Twitter: https://twitter.com/GenesisAKemp 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/genesisamariskemp/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/genesisamaris.kemp.3/ 

Chocolate Drop in Corporate America: From the Pit to the Palace: https://amzn.to/3LKZq51

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Unexpected Journey: Fire and Gold by Dedrick Moone: https://amzn.to/3FcqtUh 

Calendly: calendly.com/ 

Tiffany Haddish: https://twitter.com/TiffanyHaddish 

Melissa McCarthy: https://twitter.com/melissamccarthy 

Rabiah’s appearance on GEMS Podcast: pod.link/1562876878/episode/

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This is More Than Work, the podcast reminding you that your self worth

is made up of more than your job title.

Each week, I'll talk to a guest about how they discovered that for themselves.

You'll hear about what they did, what they're doing and who they are.

I'm your host, Rabiah.

I work in IT, perform standup comedy, write, volunteer and of course podcast.

Thank you for listening.

Hey everyone.

Thanks for joining me again this week, or if you're brand new and this is the first

time listening, thanks for being here.

There's a backlog of over 70 episodes so I'll keep you busy for sure.

If you find another guest that you're interested in.

Um, I'm actually recording this right before I go into a comedy set it's

earlier than I usually record and a different mindset, but I wanted to

get this out of the way so I can just have a clear head going into comedy.

And it's been interesting lately because comedy has been tough and I've even

thought about quitting to be honest.

And it's weird because two years ago, if you would've told me, I

was even going to be doing comedy two or three nights a week, I

would have said, that's impossible.

I'm not getting paid for it, but still I would have said, it's impossible

that that's what I'd be doing.

And I think it's just been, it's been rough.

Um, sometimes the pursuit of our dreams comes at a cost for sure.

And I just want to share this because I think sometimes people don't realize,

like, they think they're supposed to be happy all the time when they're doing

what they want to do and that's not true.

And I think it's important to state that sometimes because we live in

this culture of social media that just shows all the best things that

are going on in people's lives.

And sometimes with your friends, you know, they'll tell you what's going on.

And then they'll share a picture of something completely different.

And you're like, are you the person who was just crying on the phone to me because

you look a lot different in that post?

And isn't that the person you were crying about, but now you're happy and love them?

And, and so.

Interesting.

Um, and I just had, I've done a lot of thinking about that because when you

try to live authentically, sometimes you can't do that with everybody.

Um, and sometimes people can't be in your space because they're no

longer being authentic with you.

And I've been going through some of that lately and, and also just kind of

posting, "Hey, I have all these gigs guys", "Hey, all this stuff's coming

up, but it's also hard" and I'll post every once in a while, but it is hard.

I just want to show that in case that helps anyone.

On the other hand, I hope to have a really good set tonight.

And I'm pretty excited because I've actually prepared and written

things out before I get on the Tube.

Um, that being said, uh, this week's guest is Genesis Amaris Kemp.

She actually, we get into some of the difficulties she's had in her

career and how she got through them.

And.

She even wrote a book about some of her experiences, experiences,

and she does work now in diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging.

And we talk about those subjects and I think it's a really good chat for

people interested in that subject, or if you don't know much about it

to hear it, because we did a lot of talking about that last year.

And this year, you know, it's not really the focus for a lot of us,

even though in some people's lives, it's always affecting them constantly.

But for others of us, we have the privilege of walking in a world

where we don't have to think about that all the time, because it's

not always impacting us directly.

And so, uh, it's important to me to keep those conversations present on

the podcast and to keep myself informed and to keep myself thinking about it

and doing things I can as an ally.

And I really appreciate when a guest like Genesis and other

guests will share with me.

And so in this case is Genesis.

She has a podcast.

I was on it.

If you want to hear a little bit more about me and my career and what

I've done and some of my work, uh, I definitely encourage you to listen to

it and I'll be linking to it as well.

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Hey everyone.

So today I have a guest whose podcast I've actually been on too so you'll be

able to check hers out, but now I want to talk to her and see what she's about.

Since she spent time learning about me.

Her name is Genesis Amaris Kemp.

She's a visionary life coach, motivational speaker and podcast founder.

How are you doing, Genesis?

I am doing well, Rabiah.

Thank you so much for having me on your platform.

Yeah.

And thanks for being here.

So where am I talking to you from today?

Houston, Texas all the way in the U S.

I lived in Dallas before, so I definitely know Texas pretty well.

And how has it there right now?

You guys just went through some ice, I think.

Hopefully the Sun will come out today, hopefully.

So I could do my four mile walk.

And then next week we're going to have a cold front.

And the funny thing for anyone who is not familiar with Texas, like

the weather is so unpredictable.

You could like walk outside in like summer clothes and by midday it's like cold.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

It's pretty crazy.

It reminds me of San Francisco too is very much like that.

Like you have to wear layers there, you know, so you can plan

for a few different seasons.

Did you grow up in Texas?

You did.

Yeah.

So you're, you're born and raised in Texas.

And I first want to talk to you a little bit about before we get to what you're

doing now, because I think it's for you.

Sometimes I start with, people's like current thinking and work backwards,

but I'm going to start, I want to go forward with you just because I think it's

important for people to know where your career was before you became a life coach

and speaker and started your podcast.

So you were in the oil and gas and energy business for about 12 years

and 15 years in corporate America.

So you had this whole career in the corporate side.

So can you talk a little bit about just your career there and what

went on and maybe, you know, what you liked and didn't like about it?

Yeah, sure.

So I started working in high school via co-op.

So my first job was actually being.

And assistant for a real estate broker, which most people's first

job is like fast food or something, or like the grocery store.

But I said, Nope, I am not going to fast food.

I am not going to the grocery store.

So I hurried up and found a job before, like my family found me a job.

Cause it seemed like everyone.

In my family who started out most of their first jobs was Jack in the box.

I was like, no, I'm not going to deal with like rude customers, because I may

have to literally throw some fries at someone and I didn't want to do that.

So that was like my first job that what the market, cause I was around 2008, 2009.

We all know what happened with the real estate market.

Then.

So I didn't have a job.

And I was like, oh crap, I need to find a job.

So then I went into the medical side of things and I worked at the Cy-Fair

cancer center where I help patients.

I made sure their rooms are prepped, help, verify insurance

or whatever they needed me to do.

I was pretty much the front, the front desk assistant, as well as the back of the

house to see if things needed to be done.

Then, you know, every time a new hospital opens up, they have new

technology and better equipment.

So a lot of our patients started leaving to go to this

five-star hospital in the area.

So then again, I didn't have a job, but I quickly found another one and

I found one via my teacher actually.

She found it for me and she's like, it's an oil and gas.

I know it's not what you want to do.

Cause my whole plan was to actually go to medical school, Rabiah.

So, my first experience in oil and gas started off with

me being an imaging clerk.

It was so boring.

Imagine sitting at your desk for eight hours a day scanning papers.

That's all you did.

Put it in the machine it's so boring.

And there was like one time where I literally fell asleep

at my desk, but thankfully like my boss, like, she wasn't rude.

So she like came and tapped me on my shoulder.

It's like, you need to wake up.

And I was like, okay.

So then, I quickly learn like how to network.

And I was like, I don't want to do this imaging clerk job anymore.

So then I started to like kind of job shadow some of the project

managers to kind of find out what are you working on and et cetera.

So I moved into project coordination and then from project

coordination, I went into HSC.

So that's helped safety and environmental.

And then my supervisor at the time, her and I built the entire safety

program from the ground up, Rabiah.

And then when she left to go to a fortune 500 company, they gave me the

position as the agency manager, because I was the only other person that really

knew the intricates of that department.

So I stayed there for four and a half years.

It was a small mom and pop.

The owners were British and then I was like, you know what, I've

the highest level that I could go.

My salary's cap AF there's that glass ceiling.

So then that led me to launch out and start applying at some

of the Fortune 500 companies.

And that's where I stayed for the last seven and a half years.

But, you know, humbling experiences.

I had to start all the way over again, as an administrative assistant, worked

my way up to raw material coordinator.

Then I did trade regulations and compliance.

And then that's when in February of last year I got laid off and that's

what led me to where I am now.

So I hope all of that kind of helps paint the picture of my

non-traditional career path.

Yeah, definitely.

And I guess one thing that I want to delve into a little bit is just talk to you

about, because I think we are similar in some ways of how we fell into the project

side of things and project management, but, the idea that you, when you saw

there was something you did not want to do what you were doing anymore, you decided

to take action that you could to change that and to like job shadow, for example.

And so have you found that just, that was useful to you as a skill?

And is that something that you would tell other people to do with they're

looking for a change in their career?

Yeah, it was definitely useful for me because people

aren't just going to come tap you and be like, Hey, we have this great opportunity.

If you see something that, you know, you're good at and you want it so bad,

you need to start by taking actions and actually show some initiative

because people who show some initiative.

Get outside the box while achieving their roles and

responsibilities in their base jobs.

Those are the ones that are the high potential or high flyers.

So you're going to be noticed versus if you just sit there, you know, punch

in, punch out, or, you know, some of those who just swipe their badge or not.

You just really, if you really have to start taking ownership of your career.

I agree.

I think cause sometimes people will blame their boss for not, them not advancing

but I think that you can get around that.

You can get around a boss who's not holding your interest by you.

Have you participating actively in your own career in your own progress.

And how did you approach talking to people about that?

And how did you approach your boss?

And maybe if there's some way you would do it differently, if you would?

So when I first started doing the job shadowing,

I started by connecting with the individuals who I was interested with.

I connected with them on a personal side to kind of learn uh, learn

more about them personally, and to see where there's a connection.

And then work wise,, I started to just really ask questions.

Ask questions asked if they had any projects that they needed help on, because

if I was helping them on a project, then I was also showing them that I was

competent and I could get the work done.

And then once I had those foundations in place, then I went to my boss because I

believe you have to actually show that you're capable of the work before you go

to your boss, because if you tell your boss, Hey, I want to do this, but they

don't see your competencies they're not going to be willing to vouch for you,

especially if it's the type of company where they don't necessarily post those

internal job moves and the supervisor is the one who really navigates your current.

Yeah, I agree.

And so then when you lost your job in last year that's a difficult thing to

have happen and I know it can cause all sorts of chaos in your life.

And so how did you handle that I guess?

I mean, you've obviously decided from what we said, like built your

own business, but how did you go about deciding what to do next?

Well, when I lost my job, I found out one week after my father

passed away which was very hard for me.

So my dad passed in November of 2020, then I found out December 1st, but

then they wanted me to work up until February of last year because I was

working in a niche area and it was the first time ever in history that

the company had created this role.

So I was the first person in that role.

So if I left all of the knowledge and experience would

be walking out the door too.

So they wanted me to transition some of the information to somebody else.

I stayed on up until February 15th of last year.

Manage d get to get a severance package as well as my vacation time.

And then there was a loophole where I was able to pull out my money

from the pension, which a lot of companies don't offer pensions anymore.

So I had both and so that sustained me and my family cause we were

dual careers, my husband and I.

And then I was really just taking time to grieve the loss of my father,

but then also grieving the loss of your job because whenever you lose a

source of income, it can kind of put you in a bad head space to be honest.

And then, I just really went on a self discovery exercise and just asked

myself, "so Genesis, what type of skills and talents do you have and out of

those, which ones can you monetize?"

And so I just started to say, what do people always come to me for?

They asked me for advice.

"How did you navigate your career as quickly as you did?"

They ask me, "how are you so positive whenever life is like

throwing you to hell in a handbag?"

They ask me, "being so young and having the level of success that I

have, like what was the secret sauce?"

And I was like the secret sauce, which is, you know, knowing who you are and not set

setting in the limitations of other people and just breaking down those barriers.

And then I had my book.

My book had came out in May 2020 so I used my book as a driving

factor to open some doors.

So I went on a lot of podcasts as guest, as a guest appearance.

And once I got up to a certain number that started open doors for magazine features.

People started telling me that I should have my own podcast.

And then I was actually paid by three different CEOs to host their podcasts.

Nice.

Nice.

So let's go through a lot of that.

So, first of all, yeah, I wanted to ask you about your book.

And it came out in 2020, and it's called Chocolate Drop in Corporate

From the Pit to the Palace.

What is the book about, and also you wrote a book and that's a lot

of work, so how'd you go about that?

So, the book, I'm just going to read the back of

the book because it will summarize everything, what the book is about.

So it says, I asked, I like to start off with questions to make people think.

So, "what challenges in the workplace have you encountered that left you

feeling as if you were mistreated??

The second question is "have others who were unqualified, seemingly

passed you by in the ranks?"

In our daily lives, we are all faced with the various trials, whether in

the workforce or at home, however, when treated unfairly, it takes courage

to stand and fight for what's right?

No matter your race, nationality, ethnicity, or background, you

can rise to be the game changer.

When you use the power of your voice, you shake the atmosphere and cause a domino.

Because others will choose to either follow suit or stand in solidarity on

the pages of chocolate drop in corporate America, Genesis has chosen to speak up

for not only minorities, but also anyone who has been slided on the job in any

way from her personal testimony, you will learn how speaking up brought awareness

so that long lasting change could be.

We do not win by remaining silent, overlooking injustice and continuing

to practice poor judgment.

We win by standing together, engaging in those difficult

conversations and helping one another.

Let's work together to create change for future generations to come.

So pretty much the book walks through the journey of what I had to enter in

corporate America, from systemic racism, racism climbing the corporate ladder,

breaking down those barriers and really trying to not just be seen, but be heard.

To pave the way for future generations to come because oil and gas,

it's primarily ran by male males.

A lot of those males are Caucasian and you don't see a

lot of people who look like me.

And I wanted to show that no matter how you look, no matter what your background

is, as long as you are capable of getting the work done, you should be

promoted to certain positions and you shouldn't have to jump through hoops

because of your outward appearance.

So, so it was just really important for me to just talk about what really goes

on because you see a lot of companies talk about diversity, equity, inclusion,

and belonging, but then they take it as a check the box versus really

having it evident in the workplace.

If you want to be diverse, have people from all areas of the world

culturally people with disabilities, whether they are physical or invisible.

People with different languages or whatever.

Then inclusivity is make sure those individuals feel included.

Like you're not just having them as that token holder to show your shareholders

that you're diverse and inclusive.

Make sure you have a succession plan for them.

Equity is making sure that everything across the playing

field is equitable and it's equal.

And then belonging is giving them a sense that they do belong, where they are,

and they don't feel singled out whether it's their sexual orientation or it's

their race or their religion or whatever people like to use as ways of dividing us.

We're all here working for the same company with the same goal in mind,

and that's to make the company more profitable, but also really to have

that sustainability and make sure that at the end of the day, we go home

safely to our families like we came.

Yeah, I agree.

And I think the idea that actually doing the work as much different than

just saying you're doing the work.

And you're right.

We see it in advertising too.

Right.

That's a big complaint that I've read just from BLM and from other movements that,

okay, so good now the company just posted something on Instagram saying that they

support BLM, but then in their practices in their company, they have no idea.

And I'll tell you something like, even in my company, I mean, we, we haven't

done much social media since I've taken over that part around like all the

holidays and stuff, because it's hard to, if you do one, you should do them all.

And if you don't do them all, then don't do the one.

But it's been a challenge for me to be like, how do we

do like black history month?

And now it's women's history month and then it's going to be something

else and it takes a lot of work to consciously put messages out there,

but that you're actually following.

And I, and I know some of them take it very lightly.

Some very big companies take it lightly and I just don't think it is.

I wholeheartedly agree and I would say with the

people who are doing marketing, they should really do their research.

And whenever it comes to certain months, you should have the

representation of the people who are actually a part of that community.

Not just fine, you know, an actor or whatnot, because that's not real.

It's just like a placeholder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that means you don't have them there.

So you're like, oh yeah, we support whoever, but we're not bothering to

include them in our company or something.

Things definitely in the last year, I mean, there was a lot of change and a

lot of people had to really kind of, I mean, I hate to say wake up, but

that's what a lot of people had to do.

People even me, I had to wake up a little bit and realize the extent

to which things were happening, especially just in, in the whole area.

I mean, DEIB is like really it's huge now.

And it should have been this whole time because there's always been a problem.

But I think with the death of George Floyd, And with the really great

activist work that people did, things are starting to change in corporate.

And do you feel like D or do you ever think about things you went through

and how maybe now things might be a little bit different and just.

I don't know sometimes for me, when I look at like an injustice that happened

to me of some sort, whatever it was, and I don't see it happening now,

sometimes I get a little bit bitter.

I'm like, yeah, you know, I had to go through this and they, now they

don't have to whoever, like, but then on the other hand, I'm like, man,

I'm so glad that like my niece, isn't going to have to go through something

that I had to go through maybe.

You know, if I think about the me too movement, for example, but do you ever

have those kinds of feelings or how do you, how do you reconcile with that?

oh Yeah.

I told them my little sour patch days.

Some days I'm sour, then I'm sweet because the sour part

reminds me of what I went through.

But then the sweetness is that people who were coming behind me don't have

to go through those things because there are now policies and procedures in

place to mitigate what I went through.

When I think about the pay disparity, because I was paid significantly lower

than my colleagues, even though I was doing the same work and it wasn't until I

spoke up in the vice president's meeting, that things changed, like for example,

My classification level was a 15 and my peers were starting at a 22, but you

know, I was traveling for the company.

A limo service would come and pick me up and take me to the airport.

Had a company credit card and all the bells and whistles but then the proof

in the pudding came out whenever they flashed up you know where this, where

the classifications level start in the group and where they cap off that.

And when I didn't see mine on the screen, that was like alarming and

it was literally a news news flash.

So after I spoke up, one week later, I got a $20,000 salary increase.

And I literally felt like they did it as hush money.

And it wasn't because they felt like I deserved it.

They knew that I deserved it, but why did it take me having to speak

up in the vice president's meeting in order for you to change my cl level

from a 15 to a 22, then give me a 20,

$20,000 salary bump?

That's not practicing equity.

That's just kind of paying some kind of penance and just kind of

protecting yourself and stuff.

But it's not a genuine because who knows how many other people were in the same

position that just didn't catch them?

Yeah.

right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's, that's really hard.

And, and it's extraordinary too how underpaid you were and how

just you not having that knowledge.

I mean, there's a lot of talk, I don't know if you've

followed it or heard about it.

Here and in Europe, a lot of salaries are posted with a job posting and

in the U S it's not in the U S you're always asked how much do you

want?

So you, you determine the value of your work versus them saying, this is how

much doing this work here is worth.

And there's a movement now to publish salaries more.

And I think, you know, that kind of transparency is really where you're

putting your money, where your mouth is so to speak, you know, by companies.

Yeah.

And I think more companies should do that.

Even still here in the U S there are a lot of companies, when you see job postings,

they don't have the salary there, but they asked you what your salary range is.

But then as a person who's going up for that, you also have to be

mindful because you don't want to low ball yourself salary-wise.

And be like, oh, they said this was their range.

And then you find out that the job of paying way more than that.

So then you're like "oh, what should I do?"

You know?

And then by the time they already hire you, you know, that checks

off their budget constraints there.

So they're already moving on to the next.

So they may not be open to going back and, you know, giving you a

salary treatment because you already said that you were comfortable with

accepting the amount that you gave them.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty, it's a pretty nasty thing.

So what for you, what has been the most rewarding thing for

you about publishing this book?

Just seeing the lives that it has touched.

And knowing that a person who read my book who we're now friends, it

inspired him to tell his story on some of the injustice that he went through

working for the U S government, how his daughter was a victim of bullying.

She's a child author.

And then just his struggles.

And it was just so bad that former president Obama got involved

in their story and they went up against the board of education.

He went up against the U S government and et cetera, and he said, if I would

have never read your book, it wouldn't have inspired me to write my own.

And his book is called The Unexpected Journey: Fire and Gold.

Wow.

That's that's I mean, that's a huge return for you, you know,

to get that kind of feedback.

And for you writing the book, a lot of people think about writing a book.

I've certainly said, I'm going to write a book one day.

What drove you to actually do that versus publishing a blog or just having these

ideas and keeping them to yourself?

So the book was a way of me having something tangible

and being able to show my kids whenever they're here, that look, mommy could

write a book and the sky isn't the limit because there's footprints on the moon.

And if I could do it, you can do it too.

And just having like a book, it's almost like having your business

card in a sense, because it's yours.

Like, it's your story?

It's your truth.

And.

Putting it out there, it affords people, the ability to know about you, even if

they haven't ever met you, because blogs only go so far on that, on the internet,

but like a book, you see it in bookstores and et cetera, and people are like, Hmm,

I wonder what that's about, you know.

Yeah.

Well, that's great.

So then you got into podcasting.

First of all, you were a guest and then you ended up hosting some podcasts

for some people, and then now you have GEMS podcast, your podcast.

And so talk a little bit about just your podcast, I guess, but also what

you enjoy about podcasting in general.

So my podcast GEMS, the reason why I named it GEMS

is because I believe that each one of us has a gem to offer to the world,

whether we realize it now or later.

And I have core pillars that I like to incorporate in every single episode of my

podcast, which are to educate, inspire, and motivate, all while connecting

the dots between diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging, and why I

was so big on the DEI and B piece is because I'm first generation American.

So I saw my parents come to this country and have to work twice as hard

due to the way they are they look.

Like my dad was south American and my mom is Caribbean.

And you know, my family, they're all shades and different colors.

And you know, some of my family members, you know, they could pass for white or

some could pass for Hispanic, and they just get by because of color of their skin

isn't, you know, as pigmented as mine.

You know, that's not right.

And then with the education piece, there is something that we can learn on a

daily basis because knowledge is power.

And if you're not learning, you're not growing inspiration.

Why I chose that is because we can all be inspired by something,

whether it's a TV show, whether it's a blog, a podcast, or et cetera.

And then motivation, everyone needs a little bit of motivation

to really ignite their spark.

And with me being a firecracker, I was like, these are all things

that make me a firecracker.

Yeah.

Your second part of the question is why do I like podcasting?

Because I can say what I want to say without being censored.

It's my truth.

Like I'm putting out something in the world to not just help my

listeners and viewers, but also something that matters to me.

And it's also a way of you know, just having relevancies,

because think about it.

When you're working for somebody, you can always own your truths

because if you say something that they don't like, they'll let you go.

Or nowadays it's cancel culture, but when can we be authentic?

When can we be who we were really created to be?

And I was like, you could do that on your own podcast because it's your own show.

Yeah, I agree.

And I'll say every once in a while I'll usually record a message at the

top and I'm, I've tried really hard to- and I don't know if you're the

same, but the podcasts evolve over time- I mean, they're not like you

don't do the same thing on day one that you do on day a hundred or whatever.

But I'll say things sometimes where I just kind of that's on my mind

and then I'll feel kind of a bit vulnerable and weird about it.

And then I'll think, well, that's how I felt though.

And maybe that helps someone or at least someone sees like, or they

don't like it and they stop listening.

That could be but you know,

You just got to throw it out there and see what sticks.

And if you felt a certain way, you can't help how you feel, but you never

know how you expressing your feelings is going to help somebody else.

Like, I can't tell you, like, I've put out content out there.

And I was like, oh, I'm just putting it out because I felt something.

It was like, oh my gosh, I really needed to hear that today.

And I'm like, oh, okay.

I'm glad it helped you.

Yeah, you're on glad I helped you cause I felt really

raw about it now, but yeah, fine.

So just for people too, to listen your format is that you do solo

episodes, but you also do interviews.

So do you talk about what can, I guess you have, and, and even if maybe someone wants

to talk to you and they think they'd be a good guest, you want to talk about that?

Sure.

So for my guest process, I like to have everyone fill out a podcast guest form.

And then once I review what they put out on the form, then I'll send

them out a Calendly because I want to make sure that it's a good fit.

Both.

For me as well as for them.

I'm open with my guests as long as they meet the four pillars, which are

to educate, inspire, and motivate.

When I do solo episodes, it's because I either do it because it's something

that has been placed on my heart, or maybe I don't have any guests lined

up and I want to fill the gap to make sure I'm giving my listeners and

viewers content on a consistent basis to continue the mission of the podcast.

So there's not crickets, you know, or they don't hear anything.

Whenever I think about, you know, some of the people that I've had on my

podcast, they come from all walks of life and they have a lot of perspectives

to offer whether they're teaching about podcasting, whether they're teaching about

trauma or neuro-linguistics or whatever.

It's different subjects that anyone could just pop in their AirPods and

gain something from the episode.

That's great.

And I, I, it's funny how we're very similar in our approaches

and stuff, and I think it's.

Project management mindset that we get ingrained in us at work.

And it kind of carries into your whole life.

Basically, you cannot not be a project manager once you are one.

I want to ask you about like, just if there's anything interests you have

on the side that help you with balance because you're managing your own thing?

Okay.

So as far as balance, I only record Monday through Friday because the weekends

are like part of my self-care time.

Then, during the week I have an hour of no, no booking and that's my lunch period.

That's my time to commute.

And then, I have a cutoff time, which is about.

5 45, 6:00 PM some days, because I want to make sure that I have time to

really balance work and home life and do what I love, which is podcasting,

but also spend time with the people I love my husband, my, my nieces and

nephews, or et cetera, or do work out and take a nap or go to the nail shop.

So I'm very intentional with my schedule.

I only do 30 minute session.

'cause I feel like that is the way that I could keep a person's attention and

I'm not sounding long-winded because in 30 minutes you could make a meal

like Rachel Ray, you could exercise or whatnot, and you're not like, oh my

gosh, what is this going to be over?

And I keep it very conversational and coffee chat style.

And I don't edit because you can't edit a live conversation you had

with somebody in a coffee shop.

So why not give it to you real, raw, vulnerable and transparent?

That's what it's all about.

Like, if you look like not everyone is all prim polished, unless they

use their filters on social media or whatever, but that's not who they are.

Let's be real.

No, they're not.

Well even for this, like I have to put on makeup and stuff and I wouldn't put

on makeup like today, probably at all.

I'd just be sitting at home, but I know.

So that's good.

So you do have like ways of protecting your schedule and balancing it

. So is there anything we, I didn't ask

Not that I can think of, unless you want

me to just give some fun facts about who Genesis Amaris Kemp is.

I mean, if you want otherwise we can just.

So, fun fact, my favorite color is blue.

I just loved blue all, all shades of blue.

Love pizza, different types of pizza.

And I feel like I am a big movie buff.

Like I could sit there and watch a movie.

And I hate when people talk in the movies, because if I'm missing

something I'm like, seriously, dude, bro, girl, it's like stop.

Um,

I love to travel y'all because I think traveling gives you the ability

to meet other people, immerse yourself in their cultures, try new foods and

getting broader perspective, because if you never leave your home state

or your city you're just existing.

You're not living.

The world is so fast and there's so many beautiful and incredible things to see.

Yeah, I agree.

I mean, that's one reason I'm over here is to travel, so that's awesome.

Well, thanks for sharing the fun facts.

So, do you have any advice or mantra that you just kind of like

to share with other people that maybe you practice or think about?

Yeah.

So I like to find a quote and stick with that quote for like a quarter of my life

or a season, because it resonates with me.

And one quote right now that encourages me whenever I'm, I'm

having days where I feel down or maybe not motivated is a Babe Ruth.

It says "never let the fear of striking.

Keep you from playing the game."

I also like to take time to practice my health and wellness practices,

whether it's walking, skateboarding, longboarding, relevantly those I can't do

right now due to the way my body's gone through some changes, but I am walking.

So I've been daily trying to do like.

3.36 miles or four.

And every time I walk, I try to go a little bit further than I did

the day before, because that's a way of holding myself accountable.

I built into my schedule like self care.

So if I'm getting my nails done, I put that on my schedule cause it is a way

for me to hold myself accountable, but it also establishes boundaries for those

people who do have access to my calendar to let them know this is Genesis time.

Like her me time.

Another thing that, that is important that I would encourage everyone to do

as a mirror work, which means getting in front of the mirror and reciting your

attitude of gratitude, reciting your affirmations because once you start to

engage in that positive, self-talk on a daily basis, it's going to shape the rest

of your day as well as your life, because what you're saying is I'm saying yes to

optimism, and I'm saying no to pessimism.

I am creating this space that is producing high energy, high levels of vibrations

and me being whole and complete with myself, as well as embracing your, that

happiness and contentment, because you're not allowing negative voices and forces

to enter in and disrupt your space.

Yeah, that's great.

That's really great.

Well, thank you for sharing that.

I'm sure.

I'm sure someone's going to start a new practice coming out of that.

So the last questions I have, they're called the fun five and they're

just questions that I ask everybody.

Cause I think they're fun.

The first one, what's the oldest t-shirt you haven't still wear?

I think maybe one from high school when I was a PAL.

And that was for peer assistant leadership and supervision where I would work with

the special need kids as like a buddy.

Nice.

And it just shows you've had a generous heart, like your whole life.

And so it makes sense the path you've taken.

If every day was really Groundhog's Day, like in the film, what

song would you have your alarm clock set to play every morning?

I really I'm really feeling that Alicia keys song, this girl

is on fire and I'm not a singer, but it's like [singing] "This girl is on

fire " because I want to start off my day with like high energy and vibration.

And the funny thing I'm going to share this funny thing Rabiah, if I could.

So I wanted to play that song walking out down the aisle by wedding and I

wanted them whenever the fire part came on to light the candles at the end of

the pews but, pastor is like, oh no, are you trying to burn down the church?

Yeah.

But it's a part of setting the tone, because

just vibe with me, if you said [singing] "this girl is on fire",

and then you just start to see fires.

Exactly.

And he's like, no, then there'll be, this church is on fire.

We're not doing it.

Amazing.

That's a good song.

It's a really good song to wake up to.

And, and it has like different beats in it too, which are cool.

So that's good.

And Alicia Keys, she's she's someone you want to like always be chatting

with cause she's really inspirational.

All right, so coffee or tea or neither?

Ooh.

I like them both.

Hey, that's good.

So do you take your coffee a certain way?

So, depending on where I'm having coffee, like if I'm

having it at I hop, I'll take it with like French vanilla creamer or maybe hazelnut.

If I'm having it at a place that's known really for coffee, I'll

just drink it black sometimes.

So it just varies on the coffee spot.

And then with tea, I love green tea, oolong tea.

There's oh, lemon and ginger tea.

I love it, but it has to be a certain brand because if I don't taste a

ginger in it, then I'm like, Ugh, this is just not even ginger tea.

It's just lemon something.

Yeah.

And then can you think of something that makes you like laugh so hard you cry or

just something that always cracks you up?

. Genesis Amaris Kemp: Comedies,

So like, I think Tiffany Haddish is hilarious.

And Melissa is it Melissa McCarthy?

yeah.

she is freaking hilarious.

It's cool too, because she's such a good, serious actress.

Like she's really come into her own in that way too.

It's amazing.

But yeah, that's cool.

Well, yeah.

I love comedy too, as you know, so as we talked about.

Last one.

Who inspires you right now?

You know what?

My niece and nephews.

They really inspire me because kids, they say the darnedest things.

They are fearless.

They challenge me.

my niece told me the other day, she's like, oh, you're getting old.

Like, you're moving so slow.

And I'm like, I'm not moving slow.

And the fact that she told me that I was like, what?

Come again?

And then she even went on to say, You're mean mean like grandma.

And I'm like, seriously?

They'll always like, teach me new games or tell me what's going on in

school or just different stuff to just kind of keep me hip or like some of

the dances, like my sister's kids are the oldest, so they are into Tik TOK.

And so they were like, show me dyed diesel, Tik, TOK dance moves.

And I'm just like, what is that Cali?

And she's like, let me show you.

Yeah, no kids are cool.

My, I answered this question one time and it was, my nephew was my answer.

And he's an amazing guy and while all three of them are,

but he's, he's really cool.

So that's awesome.

So if people want to find you and they want to either learn about

coaching, they want to just learn about your podcast, where should they go?

So all of my information can be found on my

website, which is beacons dot A I backslash Genesis Amaris Kemp

(beacons.ai/genesisamariskemp).

I'm on Twitter as Genesis A Kemp (genesisakemp).

Facebook and Instagram as Genesis Amaris Kemp (genesisamariskemp) my full name.

And that's where I hang out.

And if you feeling frisky and want to email me, you will get me cause

I don't have a VA it's genesis amaris kemp at gmail dot com.

Awesome.

Well, Genesis has been an absolute pleasure to talk to you again and

to learn more about you this time.

So thanks for being on More Than Work.

Genesis Amaris Kemp:

Thank you so much, Rabiah.

Genesis Amaris Kemp:

And thanks for having me.

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