00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:24 Upcoming Men's Bible Study
00:34 Discussion on Self-Control
01:02 Q&A Session Preview
01:23 Preparation for the Study
02:45 Daniel's Interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
07:56 The Role of Angels and Watchers
10:37 Nebuchadnezzar's Humbling and Restoration
11:22 Theological Implications and Historical Context
13:43 The Pantheon and Nebuchadnezzar
14:07 Belshazzar's Historical Context
15:36 The Fall of Babylon
17:10 Daniel's Interpretation and Belshazzar's Fate
19:35 Darius the Mede: A Historical Mystery
22:29 Daniel in the Lion's Den
25:51 Lessons in Integrity and Faith
26:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another episode
of the daily Bible podcast.
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:Pass around.
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:Where are you right now?
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:I'm standing across from you.
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:But where are you tomorrow?
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:Tomorrow I'll be in the office.
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morning, tomorrow morning.
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is not Saturday morning.
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:I will be hopefully we're you are.
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:Which is men's Bible study.
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:Finishing off after starting what?
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:Fruit of the spirit.
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the fruit of the spirit.
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up with self-control.
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is evidence of the Spirit's
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the fruit, but the, I think it's
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of the fruit that we possess.
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our lives to produce love,
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goodness, faithfulness, gentleness.
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upon self control, and I think
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tying in and wrap up our series.
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before, we're just blatantly
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and we're gonna do a Q and a.
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you and I will also be, or
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increasingly more challenging
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but I'm looking forward to this
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on it for hours and hours now.
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my memory on the topic and kind
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way that it applies to us today.
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a textbook first Corinthians nine.
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a skilled expert, like.
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have that as an option.
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verse, but we're going to look at
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kind of fill out the picture for us.
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it because it lends itself.
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that I would not have guessed.
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that with them in awesome.
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sure that you are there.
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haven't been there yet.
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be well worth your time.
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a lot of food, but sure.
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coming so we could buy a lot of food.
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last weekend, and one of the
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seconds, can I register twice?
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is for her, like calculation for
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anything leftover, right?
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that are there to, you know,
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eat before you pack it up and put it in.
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jump back into to Daniel.
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opens up Nebuchadnezzar still here.
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a different king and then the
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king, but right now we're still
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jump around a bit chapters
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going to jump around because case
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the historical segment of things.
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tool Trevor's in danger.
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uh, elements of Daniel.
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just know that, so chapters four
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the historical, the chronological
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he says, in this announcement to
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the signs and wonders that the
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have a pagan king who is.
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and even calling God the most high God.
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and we'll answer it.
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four is never consider a believer.
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because this is old Testament, but is
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of chapter four, we'll keep you
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that's a theme that's going to show up.
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nation on the planet at the time.
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him terrified and, and so much so that
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and the Wiseman and everything else.
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gonna hold them captive.
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them what the dream is.
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and they're unable to answer.
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Daniel came in before me, he says
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him, Hey Daniel, here's my dream.
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is even dismayed at the dream.
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and thinks to himself, oh no, man.
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tells the king, he says, king
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dream breaks down this way.
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and fruitful and provide shade and
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in Ezekiel, there was another dream
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person being Nebuchadnezzar.
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powerful and it's mighty.
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messenger, the watcher.
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tree should be cut down, but preserving
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iron bound, by metal so that nothing
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periods of time, it would be restored.
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there's a switch in pronouns in the dream.
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we talk about pronouns in today's society.
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tree as it to now talking about heat.
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is referring to a person.
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this is our first clue that this
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be like a wild animal for seven years.
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seven periods of time.
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power of the most high down.
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dream, interprets the dream
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Nebuchadnezzar these things.
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to be fine because you think that,
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you know, king repent before this happens
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Daniel that you think, okay, well
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interpretations and dreams come true.
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thinking, okay, this may work out.
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and the, the, uh, the, the
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look at Babel and look how amazing it is.
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majesty, and then it says right there
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the fulfillment of the dream comes,
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causes them to act like a wild animal.
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years, finally, he acknowledges
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resistant for seven years.
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prideful state, even though he's
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broken to the point that he acknowledges
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restored to him as well.
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the center section here of this
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interpretation and its fulfillment.
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talk about one thing, one thing that
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to something we've covered previously.
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13, a watcher, a holy one comes down.
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an on top of the language being
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find out that the Watchers actually
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decision for king Nebuchadnezzar.
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sentence is by the decree of the Watchers,
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know that the most high rules, the
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the lowliest of men.
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in the administration, or at least some
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that are governing the world around us.
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moments, view of angels, or you have
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jobs and different roles.
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that are by the throne of God.
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job, and they're doing things and
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angels, some angels, as we'll read
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dispatched to answer prayer there's
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that engage in spiritual warfare
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and they're not all there just
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they're doing his work.
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called the Watchers and you're right.
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them because we don't know them outside
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but they are given by God, some measure
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and carry out and execute, decrease.
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they're having some influence on the
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this up because I thought of first
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happening in heaven and the lying spirit.
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mouth of one of the profits.
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go down and deceive him and
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much more happening in the spiritual
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for me at first to see here.
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it has an impact on kingdom.
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sure if this is happening.
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in biblical history, I'm sure
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we don't even think about, like
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six, that we're to put on the full
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the background where he's thinking
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see that's happening all the time.
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talking about that second thing.
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to look up Wikipedia or Britannica
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history that talks about this particular
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were not about their humility,
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into Egypt and see very little there
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Israelite slaves that they had there,
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obelisks in our episode yesterday, a
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all of the, the military victories and
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themselves historically in any way that
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this with never condenser.
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a pagan king to look back on this
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that stays in the history books.
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that not everything that the Bible
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to be reflected in other accounts.
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to tell us, but it's interesting and
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and documentations saying, oh yeah, we
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reason to not publicize this.
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reason there's probably more.
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start looking at this and look for
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of information there because
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chapter or a chapter five or
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up angels and what they do.
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a white cloud and seated on the cloud.
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a golden crown on his head and
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cloud and seated on the cloud one
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crown on his head and a sharp sickle.
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temple calling with a loud voice
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for the outer Rebbe's count.
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son, delivering the message to the sun.
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authority that's imbued to these
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even just so interesting, crazy.
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think about that a whole lot.
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our immediate, the father makes a
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he's the ultimate authority, but
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intermediaries, angelic beings
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impact on the way that the events
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can knows her praise and extol and honor
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rights in his ways are just, and those
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thing for somebody to do that.
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of God and the God of Israel?
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this is a polytheistic culture and so
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comes down and they worshiped God.
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Nebuchadnezzar in heaven.
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to believe that he was changed after this.
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warning to a new, a new segment here,
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our pastor a quick note on this.
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that Belshazzar was a biblical.
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by Daniel who had no first.
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scripture used as a, as a, I don't
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of Babylonian texts that
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a co Regent of NAB rhinitis.
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in the kingdom, which is why later
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gonna be third in the kingdom.
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recently and they were talking
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less than, uh, what are we?
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say for rough and dirty numbers.
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and vent to people and it
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chapter, we said, okay, who, who.
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the archeolog archaea all.
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we'll figure some stuff out.
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just the closed nations right now.
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and, and some of those areas that so
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out, but what's there like.
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would be delighted to find in the Bible
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that's happening and we're going to
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the reason we know that is because this
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break through and they're gonna,
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right here in Daniel chapter five.
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is that was unexpected.
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had laid siege to the city.
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but Babylon was different than Jerusalem.
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they had two sets of walls.
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:Not only that they had
20 plus years of food.
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:Uh, within the walls of the city that
they could rely on, they could survive
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had a water supply that floating under
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here throwing a party.
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not worried about this.
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:It's like, oh yeah.
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:They're just a fly.
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:They're a speck of infant testimony,
lint outside the walls of the city here.
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:We don't even have to give
them a second thought.
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:Right.
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:And so they're partying,
it's prideful, it's boasting.
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:Uh, and, and in this feast to show
contempt for the danger there.
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:Uh, they're even going to say, you
know what we perhaps belches are at
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:heard of the prophecy about what would
happen in that that Babylon would fall.
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:And so he says, look, this God
that prophesied, this I'm even
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:going to call for his vessels.
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:And so he calls for the vessels of the
temple and begins to drink toast to these
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:false gods out of the instruments that
were meant to worship the God of Israel.
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:Just an insult and debauchery and pride.
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:And then all of a sudden, the hand shows
up and the hand starts writing on the
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:plaster of the wall there in the palace.
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:And it, it causes his color to change.
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:It says multiple times there, and
he's, nobody's able to interpret it.
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:Nobody knows what it is.
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:And then his wife says, Hey, there's
this guy, Daniel, you should ask him.
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:Daniel comes in and agrees
to interpret the writing.
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:But before doing that, he
first confronts Belshazzar.
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:He says, man, you knew what happened
to your, your ancestor, your dad.
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:This is about 20 years
or so after the death of.
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:Uh, Nebuchadnezzar.
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:And so you're saying you knew
these things, and yet you still
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:exalted yourself against God.
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:And so this is the message
that's come to you.
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:And the message that came was this
message that said, Hey, you know what?
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:You've been evaluated.
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:You've been measured, you've been weighed.
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:And you've been found wanting
your days are numbered.
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:And in fact, he says, and
even tonight, your kingdom is
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:going to be taken from you.
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:And what's so cool.
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:Well, not for them.
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:But what's so fascinating is as this
is happening, the armies and the
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:Medes and Persians are literally
infiltrating the city right now.
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:And the way they did it is I
mentioned they had a stream.
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:They had a river that went under the,
the walls to supply the city with water.
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:They diverted the water from that river.
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:And they were able to pass in
under the walls, through the dry
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:river bed that had been created
after they diverted the water.
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:And they came in and they,
they had a field day because
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:nobody was expecting them.
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:Nobody was ready and they
ended up taking out belches are
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:putting them to death that night.
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:And, and Darius, the Mede
takes over after this.
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:So a couple more interesting
points historically.
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:Um, Nebuchadnezzar.
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:May or may not have been a
direct descendant of Belshazzar.
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:Our brushes are vice versa.
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:May not have been direct descendant of.
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:Nebuchadnezzar.
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:And there's there's reasons because
the reason of that is because belt
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:Belshazzar was the product of a coup.
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:Um, after.
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:Yeah.
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:After.
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:Nebuchadnezzar had gone off the scene.
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:There's a few more.
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:A few more.
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:Uh, I'll we'll, Marduke a few more
Kings that were in intermediaries.
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:And he shows up on the scene later.
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:And so historians are gonna say,
well, this is not exactly true.
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:Here you go to the Bible again,
saying an accurate historical things.
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:Now, two things at one, there
may be a connection down the
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:line that that's a possibility,
a good possibility, but second.
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:Now Daniel May not be using
this in the traditional sense.
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:You may not be saying your actual
biological father, the scriptures
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:can use this terminology in a
way that isn't strictly speaking.
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:Literal it's meant to say,
look, you're your predecessor.
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:They're.
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:The one that you're acting like
somewhere are the one that you
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:should act like in this case.
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:Uh, he knew these things by
don't, you know, these things.
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:So.
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:It give the Bible some credit.
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:Number two.
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:Derrius the meat.
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:Um, I know we're going
to go to chapter six.
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:Dairy Simeon plays a
pretty large role here.
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:Who's Derris to me, pastor PJ.
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:I do you have a good idea for this here?
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:Here's let me just lay the
groundwork for you guys.
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:Um, Derrius, the Mead is another one of
those characters in history, the biblical
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:history anyway, where we would say.
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:He plays a pretty prominent role.
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:In Daniel's life, but when it
comes to the historical backing,
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:Not quite sure who this guy is.
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:Um, there is not a Derrius.
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:The.
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:Made to our knowledge that fits the bill.
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:Historically for both the Babylonian
kingdom and the Mito Persians.
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:Uh, there's, there's clear lines of
delineation for which ruler rules
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:at what time and what they do.
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:Derrius, the meat is a mysterious
figure that we, to this point don't have
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:conclusive information about who he is.
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:But do you have any thoughts
about that, pastor PJ?
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:Yeah.
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:I don't have the answer if I
did, I would write a book on it,
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:um, and get our church building.
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:Yeah, that'd be great.
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:Uh, no, but it's possible.
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:He could have been a vice region.
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:He could have been somebody that was more
of a governor that was put in place there
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:that he could have been in a placeholder.
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:There's other people that,
that ruled that they're saying,
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:well, maybe it was this person.
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:Maybe it was another name
for this rule or that ruler.
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:But at the end of the
day, we, we don't know.
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:And yet when we look at what happened
with Belshazzar, I think we can
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:have confidence to say we don't, we
don't need to, to question to say,
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:did this guy really exist or not?
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:Um, I think there's reason to say we
haven't found the, the archeological
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:evidence for that yet, but that doesn't
mean that we need to sit here and
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:say, oh, well, this, this clearly is,
is, uh, an anachronism that the Bible
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:just slipped in there to say, okay,
let let's, let's make up a story.
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:A very unlikely.
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:And then that's the thing, another
area where we're aware that there.
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:There's areas in this we're like,
oh, well, what does that mean?
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:What does that refer to?
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:But give the Bible time.
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:The Bible is proven itself over and
over again, even if we don't have
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:what we need right now, at some
point in time, we're going to know.
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:Okay.
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:Yeah.
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:Did the Bible annuity.
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:Like Belshazzar, right?
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:People thought it was a myth and a farce.
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:Nope.
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:He's real.
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:Bible wins.
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:And the other thing too,
is, is for us to have a, a.
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:I don't want to put this, um,
Uh, chronological humility.
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:Uh, not to think that where we are
in our day and time with all of our
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:institutions and seminary and archaeal
archeologists and everything out there.
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:Are in a much better place to be able to
decide whether or not something is true,
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:then those that first were the recipients
of these books and these letters.
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:I mean, the, the book of Daniel
has been part of the Jewish cannon.
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:You know, from the outset.
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:And so that, to, to say that that
all of a sudden, they were willing
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:to just look the other way on this
false name that was slipped in there.
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:When this was within close proximity
of the, the event's actually happening
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:is just a chronological snobbery that
we can sometimes fall into thinking
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:that we're smarter because we're.
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:You know, look at.
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:We're so much more advanced as a culture.
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:We still don't know how
they made the pyramids.
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:Right.
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:Clearly they had some, they had
some kind of genius way of moving.
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:Massive, impossible to.
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:I mean, that's certainly I was going
to bring it up at another time, but
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:since you brought it up, I mean.
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:Whatever it is.
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:They're smarter than we
are in a lot of ways.
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:Yeah.
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:All right.
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:Well, let's talk to up chapter six then.
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:Yeah, chapter six, is that to
summarize this chapter integrity,
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:um, is, is what this comes down to.
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:You've got Darious and he, uh, is
bamboozled by some of the people in his.
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:Uh, it is court there to say, Hey,
pass this law that no one can worship
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:any God except for you and you alone.
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:And the reason they did that is because
these are Daniel's worst enemies.
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:They're jealous of his position.
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:They're jealous that this Jews should
have so much authority in the kingdom.
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:And they say, Hey, king passed this law
because they knew that Danny wouldn't
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:listen to it because they knew the
only reason they would trip them up
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:is if they found a reason in relation
to his relationship with God, which.
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:I mean, let's make that our goal in life
that if our worst enemies emptied out
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:our closets, the only thing that they
would find worthy of bringing a charge
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:against us is to try to trip us up when
it comes to our relationship with Christ.
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:Daniel goes up, knowing the decree had
been signed, opens the windows to his
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:is in his room there and prays towards
the, where the temple had been to
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:praise towards Jerusalem because God.
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:Had he was there.
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:He knew that that's what
God wanted him to do.
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:And so he does it and sure enough,
they find him, they accused him.
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:The king can't do anything.
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:He is grieved over this.
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:And even as he's lowering
Daniel into the lion's den, he
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:says, may your God save you?
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:Which is a fascinating glimpse
into the relationship that
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:dairy has had with Daniel.
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:The king loses sleep overnight.
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:While, while Daniel's in the lion's
den, he rushes back the next morning,
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:pulls the lid off the den and
probably had never done this before.
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:Calls out to the dentist
says, Hey, are you okay?
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:Did your God spare you?
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:And Daniel says, king,
look, my God honored.
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:My integrity.
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:I had done nothing against
him and he sent his angel and
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:shut the mouths of the lions.
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:And I'm here I am.
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:I'm okay.
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:So Daniel's pulled up in,
out of the lion's den.
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:And then in response, the king
takes those that had accused him
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:and he throws them into the pit.
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:And it says before they even hit the
ground there, their bones were broken.
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:They were, they were dead before
they even hit the ground, which
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:shows us that these were not.
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:Broken lions.
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:These were mines that had been tainted.
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:A holy gap.
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:They're waiting for an update.
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:Yeah, this is a really cool story.
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:That's.
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:It's there's a reason why it was one
of everyone's favorites growing up.
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:And there's a reason why we
teach it every year, basically.
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:And in Sunday school, Because
this story just showcases again,
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:the providential protection of
God, which he does, he does do.
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:He doesn't do it all the time.
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:Right.
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:And we should know that we should never
hold God to some kind of entitlement
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:of saying, well, I did this for you.
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:You should do this for me, which
is why I really love I'm Hannah.
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:And I am Michelle, Michelle, and as
a ride because they say, but if not
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:okay, if he doesn't do that, then.
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:Okay.
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:So be it, whatever.
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:God has rights to either
protect us or to let us perish.
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:And that's his prerogative.
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:Now, and that should be our, our
perspective on this, but there are
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:times when he does stuff like this,
and man, it is so cool to see this.
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:I would have loved to have seen.
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:What it looked like.
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:I mean, were the lions in any way
aggressive and then did, did God
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:just like literally shut their mails?
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:They couldn't open it or.
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:Was there something, I don't know.
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:Daniel playing fetch in
the, in the pan all night.
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:I mean, what did God do to make them.
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:Sorry to make them
docile, super aggressive.
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:I just get excited about this stuff, man.
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:I really love this.
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:I enjoy thinking through
what would it look like?
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:And I'm going to ask
Daniel when I get there.
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:And you're like, did he have
a piece of grass in his teeth
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:picking it like a farmer?
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:Thinking back on one of the lions.
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:Riding them around standing on top of
them doing tricks kickflip with a lie.
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:But man, if Daniel was ever married and
the stories that he would had for his
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:grandkids, Uh, let me tell you about
when I spent the night with the lions.
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:I wrote a line.
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:Yeah, I did a kickflip.
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:On the line.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, super cool.
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:SQL.
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:Well, its prey.
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:Yeah.
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:We want integrity like that.
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:We want to be, uh, again, men and
women who demonstrate that just
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:like we prayed yesterday about,
uh, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.
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:We want to be.
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:People like Daniel, who, uh,
if somebody wants to say, Hey,
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:I'm going to find dirt on them.
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:That the only thing that they
would be able to come up with
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:is, is our commitment to you.
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:Our devotion to you.
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:Um, it lives like Daniels and like
job's remind us that that's possible.
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:It's not insurmountable now.
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:Can we ever reach sinlessness?
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:No, we can't.
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:And we acknowledge that before you got it.
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:We always have reason to depend
upon Christ and his righteousness.
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:But we can be godly holy people.
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:And so I pray that you would
make that true of us as a church.
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:And we ask this in Christ's name.
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:Amen.
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:Amen.
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:All right, y'all keep me in your
Bibles and tune in again tomorrow.
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:For another episode of
the daily Bible podcast.
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:See you then.