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Life is Always Better Than it Seems: Embracing Fear and Living Courageously with Deb Chambers
Episode 618th December 2021 • A Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine • Amanda Lux
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What does it really look like to go with the flow, embrace fear and live courageously?

Join Amanda Lux on her travels to Puerto Rico in this riveting conversation with one of the most amazing dynamic women, Deb Chambers, the general contractor on the construction site where Amanda and her partner are currently painting some large scale eco-murals.

Deb, a 63 year old powerhouse, mother, and bohemian traveler shares how she has "cracked the code" to living a life of true freedom. In this episode we discuss:

  • How music and community have helped her overcome life's biggest challenges
  • How she has cultivated a unique relationship living in sync with her Universe by listening to her gut and embracing fear
  • How paying attention to her dreams and synchronicities have led her to live a more awakened life
  • How she arrived in Puerto Rico on a whim with little money and no where to stay and created an abundant life and community for herself
  • How she models a way of relating to all people as equals, through living in trust and compassion, guided by love

Resources 

Learn more about our monthly dream circles, free courses, and how to join the Hive Membership for dreamers and seekers go to:

 https://www.elevationhive.community/ 

To learn more about Deb's up and coming YouTube channel all about "living a life of freedom outside the box," send all inquiries to: debchambers1111@gmail.com

Music

Theme song "Alone, All One" by Amanda Lux

All other music by LesFM

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Deb Chambers:

Life is short and we have today.

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So why not grasp today , with anything and everything that brings joy to not

Deb Chambers:

only myself, but to the people around me and for me, that's living in freedom.

Deb Chambers:

I've had riches I've , and today I don't, but it's not, about having enough money.

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, I've had million dollar homes on the rivers , that I built.

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I've owned resorts money.

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Doesn't give you freedom.

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People use that phrase and I understand where they're coming from, but we

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have to give ourselves the ability to feel and live with freedom.

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And that's living in the moment . . . And that takes courage.

Amanda Lux:

Welcome to a lone travelers guide to the divine podcast for

Amanda Lux:

empathic healers, dreamers, and seekers.

Amanda Lux:

This is Amanda Luxe and I'm the creator of the elevation hive school

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and community membership for energy medicine and dream work today.

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I'm recording this very special episode from Ceiba Puerto Rico, and

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I'm going to be, interviewing this amazing woman who I met here.

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Her name is Deb chambers.

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She is 63 years old.

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She's the project manager of this massive construction site where I am

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and I wanted to interview her today because , her story will blow your mind.

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She has been everywhere, done everything.

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She's just really a radiant being.

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We're here commissioned to make some, , large scale murals.

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And We're supposed to be going up on this electric lift that

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goes up 40 feet in the air.

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It's a four story building that we're painting three of them.

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And I, I have a fear of Heights and I'm a painter.

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But I have never painted anything.

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Large scale like this before my partner's painted plenty of murals.

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But I have never done this.

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So it's my first time.

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And when we first were invited to come to Puerto Rico for a month

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and paint these murals, I was like, wow, of course I want to do that.

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And it's an opportunity to raise awareness around the local ecology and

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endemic species that are endangered here.

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And the idea of getting up on a ladder that's four stories tall, or an

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electric lift even is just terrifying.

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And of course the lift is broken.

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Somebody stole the battery out of it.

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We haven't been able to get it fixed.

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And it's just been an amazing adventure so far, but the lift hasn't been working

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so we haven't actually been able to go up and start these murals yet.

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There've been a lot of moments on this trip where I just felt

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like I can't control anything nothing's going in the right way.

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Everything's changing from minute to minute.

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We don't know where we were staying from night to night.

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So.

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Really been learning so much about how to be fluid adaptable and positive.

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Just seeing how this woman, Deb models, these principles of living with

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positivity ease collaboration and, , fire to get things done, but patients

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and in this just impeccable balance.

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She taught me so much just in the last 48 hours since I met her about

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how to embrace fear and how to go with the flow when things are sort

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of chaotic and out of control.

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So I'm super honored to have Deb chambers as my muse and inspiration

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for conquering and embracing fear, being adventurous and brave in life.

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She just, uh, it's a great interview.

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So I hope you enjoy her story and then I'll have Deb share a little bit as

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well about how, how she works with her dreams in a very unique and special way.

Deb Chambers:

Life is better.

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than it seems I, uh, by the way, I am Deb, I had the privilege of being

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introduced to elderly people, starting at the age of four, who showed me

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that life was better than it seems.

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So at this time that I'm talking about, I was in foster care and they

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turned it around and opened my world from the negative into the positive

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of music and music, soothed my soul.

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I believe in the universe.

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I believe that there's, you know, you can call it in your higher power.

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You can call it God.

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But for me, it's my universe.

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And at a very young age, I was able to be held and have peace, just flow through me.

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Fear became my best friend because it's always better than it seems.

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So when there was a fright or something that traditionally would

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scare the shit out of you, uh, if you wrap your arms around it and take

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it with you, it creates a light and.

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That also brought me to my definition of failure.

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Failure is an opportunity to go a different direction with more

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knowledge and you're started with, and that's not negative.

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So that's how I, that's how I live my life.

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, fear.

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Um, cause my best friend, I always look for the bright side of things.

Deb Chambers:

I am not a stressful person.

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I can listen and talk to anybody from a CEO of a company or a streetwalker.

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Yeah.

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And for me they're all equal.

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I don't give them the layers that our society gives them.

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So that's kind of what I am.

Amanda Lux:

I just also wanted to mention.

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Deb is apparently the mayor in town, according to the locals at the bar

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last night, which was really fun.

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It was so fun to see you in your element and across the street from

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this little restaurant bar open, I don't know, what do you call that?

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It was a restaurant bar, but it's all open and it's right across from the

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water and there's this beautiful tree.

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And he said, oh, that's the tree that I slept under.

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When I first got here with my backpack or whatever.

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Right?

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You had some adventure getting here.

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You want to say something about that?

Deb Chambers:

Maybe nine years ago, 10 years ago, I went

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through a time in my life.

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Uh, that was from the world's point of view, extremely negative.

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I chose to go on a sabbatical because I was not going to be brought

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down to somebody else's level.

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And I didn't know where I was.

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So a lot of stories short.

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Um, I ended my sabbatical by coming to Puerto Rico and it was

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a three day, uh, adventure for me.

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. Um, I have, , a lot of hidden skills, , and I was able to help the, , the hospital

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that I was staying at, , with just minor things, but not only physically fixing

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fans and fixing doors, I was able to help young people with the resumes,

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helping them learn English, giving them a, uh, the encouragement, the.

Deb Chambers:

I love the universe, gave me a ability to love, and I can love anything in any one.

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Um, and I don't hesitate, you know, I'm very open so that, um, three-day

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weekend ended up being four months and I fell in love with Puerto Rico, but it

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wasn't the sites and the attractions.

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It was the people.

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And I said to myself, I committed that I would live here someday.

Deb Chambers:

So years later through the virus, um, the opportunity, again,

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arose that I could come here.

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So within two weeks I made the decision.

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I was here.

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It's an awesome place here.

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This won't be my forever home because I don't know that I'll ever have a

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forever home, but wherever I go, I, I become a part of the community.

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If, if somebody needs help, across the state or a continent,

Deb Chambers:

generally I can call somebody and say, would you help my friend?

Deb Chambers:

And it can be done.

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And I'm confident that it will be done.

Deb Chambers:

So, cause I of, oh yeah, that's

Amanda Lux:

wonderful.

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I just experienced, witnessing you in your sense of community

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and just how you were received.

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I think that the venue we were at last night, it seemed to me like it was

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all men, but everybody knew Deb and everybody loves Deb and they called

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her the mayor and we were like, wow, we struck gold with you because she's

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the project manager of this massive construction zone where we are.

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And that's going to be a beautiful, wonderful destination at seven.

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, but there is a lot of difficulties that we kept coming up against in order to

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do our project, but it was amazing to have you on our side cause you know,

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everyone and you could get things done and anyway, very impressive.

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So I, and just your attitude and your smile and your radiant

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way of being was just really, , something profound to behold.

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So other people could be exposed to that and your way, your way of viewing life

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and how you have created an unconventional life for yourself by making relationships

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with the people around you and having a positive outlook and not giving up.

Amanda Lux:

, again and again, when things maybe are hard externally, you seem to find a

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way of viewing it as an opportunity.

Amanda Lux:

Which sounds like you started with that at a very young age.

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So you've been practicing your whole life with that.

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And it's really, you can tell that it's a practice that you've cultivated that.

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And one thing that my friend Thea and I were discussing last night with

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was how you, , you have this way of, embracing freedom and living freedom.

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That's like that unattached way of being.

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And I think a lot of times there's a preconceived notion of what freedom means.

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That is like, oh, when I attain, , the time, the free time I'll feel freedom.

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Or when I, , get that a certain amount of money, or when I arrive

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at a certain amount of success, or when I have acquired these luxuries,

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then I will be free or something.

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But to me, what I really noticed is that the pain, the struggle, trying

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to make your way in the world, the sleeping on a floor for a month in

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Puerto Rico, with somebody you meet in this bar, which is like amazing

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that you would, make your way.

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And, that that's freedom and that there is some sacrifice in that, you know, in

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order to have freedom, you have to be willing to embrace fear to some degree.

Amanda Lux:

Right.

Deb Chambers:

So I decided, two weeks before I came to Puerto Rico to come

Deb Chambers:

to Puerto Rico, my company got closed.

Deb Chambers:

, I didn't look at it as, um, man.

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I'm what the fuck am I going to do?

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I looked at it, uh, what am I going to do?

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I had an opportunity.

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I got open doors.

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Where am I going?

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, I talked to my business partner who happened to be my youngest

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daughter, and I said, Sarah, I'm going to, I'm going to Puerto Rico.

Deb Chambers:

When are you going?

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I said, two weeks.

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So I ended up literally grabbing my backpack and my tote bag.

Deb Chambers:

, I flew up here, with no plans in my mind I thought that I

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would be living in San Juan.

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So because of that thought, I wanted to explore the island a little bit.

Deb Chambers:

I ended up in Luquillo and it was through there.

Deb Chambers:

I only stayed three days and I was going to go back to San Juan I'm out

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of gentlemen that, , he spoke , broken English, but he, was probably 78, maybe.

Deb Chambers:

We talked for over an hour and he convinced me I should go to Fajardo.

Deb Chambers:

So at the time I called it Fajardo

Amanda Lux:

yeah.

Amanda Lux:

I love that you arrived here, not even speaking Spanish.

Deb Chambers:

So, uh, I changed my plans.

Deb Chambers:

I had a hostel, I ended up in San Juan.

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I changed it.

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And I got an Airbnb in Fajardo.

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I got a, Uber driver, which was amazing in itself.

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So again, that's my universe and the woman says, well, where do I go?

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And I said, what?

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I just got a email that my Airbnb got cancelled . And I'm like, fuck say,

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I said, I don't know where I'm going.

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Sorry, I'm looking at my phone and say, oh, there's a dock cause

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I'm a water, but there's a doc just drop me off at the dock.

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So I get to the dock and you know, I got my bag and you

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know, it's just like, oh Lord.

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Um, and I'm watching all these bolts and fishermen and, um,

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the smells and the warmth.

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, I probably sat there for two hours and then it was like, I

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kind of find a place, you know?

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So literally there's nothing available to rent.

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Unless I want to pay $400 for a night.

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I don't have, I came here to three grand, that's it to my name.

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So I ended up texting my daughter and asking her for, , I

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wanted, I wanted a beer, , and I needed to go to the bathroom.

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And so she gave me the words for a beer and a bathroom.

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And then I'm talking with my hands and saying, you know, I'm showing him

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that guys, I don't know where to go.

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I don't know where to go to sleep.

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I put my hands up on my head, on my hands,

Amanda Lux:

So somehow Deb, you just manage to wander into the right

Amanda Lux:

place at the right time and you found your way, you were able to

Amanda Lux:

meet people and create community.

Amanda Lux:

How, how did you do that?

Amanda Lux:

I'm just so curious.

Amanda Lux:

How did you do that?

Deb Chambers:

the women that were working there, they ended up running

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out , into this crowd of people.

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They're all men, one guy, Jose, spoke English.

Deb Chambers:

So he came in fact he met him.

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So he came up to me and says, I'm he talks like this.

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I'm told, y'all need a place to stay.

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I said, I do.

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He says how long?

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I said, as long as I can.

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So he ended up getting a hold of another guy.

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He saw him.

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In fact, he was there last night and he gave me a place for her.

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, so for a week I tried to find another place and I finally, , , just gave up,

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but that doesn't mean that's not a nail.

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It was like, what are you doing, Deb?

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You know, you don't need, you don't need to stress about this.

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You know, it's gonna work out.

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So , once you let go, you allow there's, there's the freedom you let go, let go.

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And then what came in for me was I met this fishermen and you

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know, he's a character, and he said well , you can rent my room.

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And I said, what do you mean right?

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Your room?

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But it's literally a one room.

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with a bathroom and he has a twin bed.

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He says, I'll give you my mat.

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And he's literally a commercial fishermen.

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I'll give you my mat and you can run my mat for $150, , for

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the month done with them.

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So here's fear again.

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Uh, the one thing that I do not like is spiders.

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, and I'm on the floor and there's big spiders here and I've

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come face to face with them.

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And I still went to sleep at night.

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, I trusted that they would stay in their own space.

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So during this time I am working, my whole goal was to show the

Deb Chambers:

people that were around me.

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Trust me.

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, when I say I'm going to do something.

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And so my commitment is the strongest, my word, , integrity is big for me.

Deb Chambers:

My goal was to prove to the people, helping me, that they can

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trust me and I'll help them too.

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And for me, that's how I get to know people.

Deb Chambers:

So, you know, I worked in the marina, I loved it.

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I had no schedule.

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I learned very quickly, Puerto Rican time.

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They say going to pick you up at eight o'clock.

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It might be 10, might be 12.

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You know, you just go with the flow, so to speak.

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But I got where I just put a handmade goal and just wait in

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the hammock and waited for him.

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And then with the fishermen, I would go down.

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I never had a key for.

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To go in.

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He only had one key and he wasn't going to make one, so I'd have

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to wait for him to come home.

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And I go back to Racar and I get one beer.

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Then I'd go out on the, and sit down by the water and

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just be soothed by the waves.

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, in the morning I met all the walkers and we're talking early 5 30, 6 o'clock.

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I wanted to meet people.

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I met this one, one say, that's what I love about.

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They, they sing everybody sings.

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They're happy.

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They dance.

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, it's spur of the moment.

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, I can remember the first time I went to the grocery store, a market,

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and the woman behind the counter.

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All of a sudden my, my stuff has to put back down there and

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teach it, gets out just singin.

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And I just, my whole being just glowed, you know, nobody pitched

Deb Chambers:

door, you know, what are you doing?

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You know, everybody enjoyed it.

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And they, they say, that's what I love about Puerto Rico.

Deb Chambers:

You know?

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Ah, I love the people.

, Amanda Lux:

I was going to say too, that it came up that, you know, how

, Amanda Lux:

you must be so extroverted to like, be getting to know all these people

, Amanda Lux:

and improvising and finding your way.

, Amanda Lux:

What about the, what, what, what did the rest of us

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introverts do in that situation?

Deb Chambers:

I'm very shy.

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And when I am into a new arena, so to speak, , I bring my best friend though,

Deb Chambers:

my fear factor and I grabbed onto all the strengths that are within me.

Deb Chambers:

And in that I have confidence.

Deb Chambers:

And when you have confidence, you can continually walk forward and

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that's the key you don't stop.

Deb Chambers:

You just keep moving forward.

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There's a door shut, you know, just go the next one, turn around.

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Maybe you're in the wrong place altogether.

Deb Chambers:

And I've experienced all of that.

Deb Chambers:

And you have to, I follow my.

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My gut, my universe.

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I believe everybody knows when they're doing something

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that that's not good for them.

Deb Chambers:

Maybe it's, it's a, a new job or maybe they're in a job that

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they shouldn't be in my God.

Deb Chambers:

You gotta be there eight, 10 hours a day.

Deb Chambers:

If you don't like it, go away, go, go do something else.

Deb Chambers:

Don't allow fear to stop you from taking that leap to better yourself.

Amanda Lux:

Beautiful.

Amanda Lux:

Thank you.

Amanda Lux:

That's just excellent advice for life and clearly it's working for you.

Amanda Lux:

And, and the other thing I wanted to bring into this Deb was I wanted to

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invite you to share something about your relationship with dreams, because

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in this podcast, I love to talk about dreams and how, how dreams can be

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important and helpful guideposts in our life and why, how they can be valued.

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And interesting.

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And I know, you know, we were sitting at this restaurant last night, just

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having a good time talking and, you know, but the town mayor and, and

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my partner says you've got dreams.

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What's your dream relationship with dreaming and you had a good story there.

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So I wanted to invite, if you wanted to say anything about, how dreams

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have been a guidepost for you.

Deb Chambers:

I generally don't dream.

Deb Chambers:

Yeah.

Deb Chambers:

When I do dream, the, the universe is talking to me in a way that

Deb Chambers:

I will, uh, have the universe has my full attention when I'm.

Deb Chambers:

That's the simplest way for me to put it.

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And so sometimes it may be, um, think of a movie where you, you start a movie

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and then five minutes, um, into it, it stops and it goes to a commercial.

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I may only get that five minutes of my dream, but the next night I start over

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again to the point where that five minutes I will dream just that part of the dream

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until I know like the back of my hand.

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And then I get another segment and the different dreams that I've had.

Deb Chambers:

It's all about me meeting people.

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And I already know what I'm going to talk about.

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I know where I'm going to sit.

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I know the atmosphere, and it may take a week to two weeks.

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And when the dream stops, I know it's going to happen that

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day and I'm already thinking.

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And again, it's the universe because all of a sudden, you know, this

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particular one, I was going over to, , a person's house who I had never met.

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So I knew the house.

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I could tell you the colors.

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I knew where the couch was.

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I knew how this person was going to move here, which made me move over here.

Deb Chambers:

It was just in the flow of things, but I never met these people.

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And yet I already became best friends with them in my dream.

Deb Chambers:

So, I ended up coming out of a store.

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I ended up talking to somebody there.

Deb Chambers:

We started talking, we ended up having coffee.

Deb Chambers:

They invited me over to their house.

Deb Chambers:

They wanted me to be a part of this.

Deb Chambers:

It was a, it was a spiritual thing.

Deb Chambers:

And I said, yeah, I'll do that.

Deb Chambers:

And I get there and it's like, this is my dream.

Deb Chambers:

So I walked in.

Deb Chambers:

No.

Deb Chambers:

I mean, I, I, I ended up even crying because it became such a,

Deb Chambers:

I had nothing to do, but to praise my God for how he was using me.

Deb Chambers:

Yeah.

Deb Chambers:

Yeah.

Deb Chambers:

And so I have dreams such as that, that may be, I had a, I had

Deb Chambers:

a dream that I would be on this piece of property in Wisconsin.

Deb Chambers:

This piece of property, I didn't know anything about it.

Deb Chambers:

It turned out long story short.

Deb Chambers:

I was a property worth, $1.5 million.

Deb Chambers:

That's a whole nother story.

Deb Chambers:

I knew that I would be, I would be a part of that land.

Deb Chambers:

I just knew it was going to happen.

Deb Chambers:

And so when I, when I know, I know that I know it doesn't matter.

Deb Chambers:

Who tells me Deb, the crazy.

Deb Chambers:

No.

Deb Chambers:

No, not crazy.

Deb Chambers:

Yeah.

Deb Chambers:

That's all right.

Deb Chambers:

I mean, I've lost friends because I have blind.

Deb Chambers:

I am.

Deb Chambers:

And then I'm a dreamer.

Deb Chambers:

That's.

Deb Chambers:

That's how I would talk about who I am.

Deb Chambers:

I am a dreamer.

Deb Chambers:

Oh, I, but I dream about, I want to, I want to have horses up on the hill.

Deb Chambers:

I get to go look at six and a half acres of land over here.

Deb Chambers:

That's not from my doing that's the universe sayin'.

Deb Chambers:

All right, girl.

Deb Chambers:

You're on the right path.

Deb Chambers:

We're going to keep moving forward.

Deb Chambers:

Yes.

Deb Chambers:

So dreams, like I said, they don't happen to me all the time.

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It may be years and then it may be dozens of times within a year.

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So it's all about what I need to learn about a given situation

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from a universe point of view.

Deb Chambers:

Brilliant.

Deb Chambers:

So there's, there's Deb

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in a nutshell folks.

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And aren't you lucky to hear her talk about her dreams?

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What a dreamy life you live,

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It seems to have like you live in such a unique way and not all

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people in our current society, or even globally are willing to

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embrace different kinds of people.

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And to, to make that effort, to create community and to take those risks.

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And, uh, I'm just curious if you want to just speak to that at all.

Deb Chambers:

I, I am drawn to, , emotions where I can sense

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where people are struggling.

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And first and foremost, I put myself second in my life.

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My universe is number one, I'm second.

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And then it goes to my family.

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My friends work work is last because that too gives me the

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freedom to embrace everybody.

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That's around me.

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Thanksgiving dinners are a good example.

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I maybe walking this park every day and see this one particular

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person there every single day.

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I know they don't have any place to go.

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I just invite them over.

Deb Chambers:

You know, people worry about me.

Deb Chambers:

Um, oh my God, maybe they'll steal.

Deb Chambers:

Maybe they'll do this.

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Maybe they'll do that.

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And I said, well, then they must have needed it more than I do.

Deb Chambers:

And, um, yeah, but then again, it's, it's, it's back into fear.

Deb Chambers:

People are afraid to, there's a guy at recar here where everybody wanted me to

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stay away from him, stay away from him.

Deb Chambers:

I'm not gonna stay away from him.

Deb Chambers:

, we sit on the bench and we talk, , does he have, uh, things that people don't want.

Deb Chambers:

Absolutely.

Deb Chambers:

But I don't, I don't know why he didn't take a sheller.

Deb Chambers:

And even, even that, here I go for maybe a week with, I have no water

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running water, no electricity, none.

Deb Chambers:

Um, you don't know that, that I haven't taken a shower,

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uh, because I have no water.

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All you do is smell me.

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And I'm working in a construction site.

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So I'm, I'm there's days I'm filthy.

Deb Chambers:

If you met me on the street, you'd look at me and say, oh my God, why?

Deb Chambers:

Isn't why that woman taking better care of herself.

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But if you stop and you meet me, you understand, oh my God, I can't believe

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that the water has been out for a week.

Deb Chambers:

You know?

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Oh my God, my dishes are piling up and all you don't, you assume so.

Deb Chambers:

Again, it's, it's trusting your gut and, and not being.

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Fearful of something getting stuck.

Deb Chambers:

I stolen, you know, or, I mean, I've lost good friends because of my lifestyle.

Deb Chambers:

I, my lifestyle is not, they, I lose them because they're stressed for my life.

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And I say, why I'm not stressed or I'll, you know, I give them the Devin

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answer and say, oh, I'm so glad.

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Just stressed for me.

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I said, that just gives me the freedom to I'm going swimming today.

Deb Chambers:

I'm going swimming with the dolphins today.

Deb Chambers:

You know, I'm so glad you took my stress.

Deb Chambers:

I love life.

Deb Chambers:

And I'm down to the last third of my life in reality.

Deb Chambers:

No, no.

Deb Chambers:

And that's why I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Deb Chambers:

Um, and I'm not gonna let anybody take my life from me because I have

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my own walk, my own freedom and I, I'm just not willing to give.

Deb Chambers:

So I'll probably be single for a long time.

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So I just wondered if you would like to say any last words,

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Deb, about, just how one could live a life that is so guided and in sync

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and so in touch with freedom, the kind of freedom that you have cultivated

Deb Chambers:

life is short and we have today.

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So why not grasp today , with anything and everything that brings

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joy to not only myself, but to the people around me and for me.

Deb Chambers:

That's living in freedom.

Deb Chambers:

I've had riches I've and, and today I don't, but it's not, it's

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not about having enough money.

Deb Chambers:

I've had million dollar homes on the rivers that were, that I built.

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I've owned resorts money.

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Doesn't give you freedom.

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People use that phrase and I, I understand where they're coming from,

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but we have to give ourselves the ability to feel and live with freedom.

Deb Chambers:

And that's living in the moment has nothing to do with money.

Deb Chambers:

Money is great to use, to buy groceries or to go on a boat ride or to do whatever.

Deb Chambers:

And there's freedom of having your choices.

Deb Chambers:

I get freedom today where if I'm supposed to go on a boat

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ride, that's going to happen.

Deb Chambers:

Someone's going to come alongside to have you want to go on boat ride.

Deb Chambers:

Uh, fishermen comes into my life.

Deb Chambers:

Do you want to learn how to commercial fish?

Deb Chambers:

Absolutely.

Deb Chambers:

You know, I can, that's the freedom.

Deb Chambers:

I can do anything I want to do if I'm living in the moment.

Deb Chambers:

So if I'm working in, uh, a mechanic, doesn't show up, then

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it's not supposed to happen today.

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So I'm just going to turn around and work on something else.

Deb Chambers:

I'm not going to waste energy.

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That's going to take away my ability to enjoy the moment that I'm at.

Deb Chambers:

And to me, that's freedom.

Deb Chambers:

And that takes courage.

Amanda Lux:

Thank you.

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Oh my goodness.

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May we all cultivate that kind of courage and create a world where we

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can all live so free and so caring of ourselves and others in the

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moment to me, that's the ultimate self care, you know, to just stop.

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Hamster wheel in the brain and choose to not worry, to not stress, to not

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fret and to embrace the unknown and the fear, as you said, that takes courage.

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And, um, that's a beautiful thing and we might have to sleep with spiders

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to cultivate that kind of courage.

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There's a, you have to work to get that it's, doesn't come for free,

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but it doesn't take money to buy it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So thank you.

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Thank you so much though.

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It was such a pleasure to, uh, spend this time with Deb chambers

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doing this interview and just being here in Puerto Rico.

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And I just wanted to thank all of the people that we have met along the way.

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So many amazing individuals and for giving us this opportunity to be a

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part of this culture for a minute.

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it's such an honor to be in sacred community with you.