This reflective episode is a quiet landing place for therapists, leaders, caregivers, and helpers who carry more than most people see. Jennifer explores why those who hold space for others also need community, witnessing, and care — and what happens when the caregivers themselves are finally supported.

What You’ll Hear:

1. Why healing doesn’t only depend on the container — but on the one holding it
2. The invisible emotional load carried by therapists, leaders, parents, and helpers
3. How integration (not insight) creates lasting change
4. Why slowing down after powerful experiences is essential for healing
5. The courage it takes to receive support when you’re used to giving it
6. Reflective questions to help you reconnect with your own needs

Resources Mentioned

1. Episode with Merissa Turner — Healing in Community
2. Thailand reflections episode — From Patterns to Possibilities
3. Episode with Gary Turner — Witnessing Stories with Care

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

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