Messages from Beyond: The Truth About Mediumship and Healing with Laura Hoorweg
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Laura Hoorweg Part 3
Laurin: [:So I, I apologize for taking so long because it's about a really. interesting topic. It's about mediumship. It's all about how that works and different varieties of it and how you can learn more about it. She is a medium as well as many other things. So since this is really the, third part of an interview there's no introduction to it.
one so many different things [:And, this piece is all about mediumship. So I hope you'll find it entertaining. I hope you'll find it it helps you understand what mediumship is more than you might at the moment. And, and maybe it piques your curiosity. Maybe you feel like you have the ability to do this and you, you want to pursue that a little bit or explore it a little bit.
So I invite you to get curious as I always do and really see how it, how it works. Hit you how it resonates with you , as you listen to this part of our conversation. So Laura Hoorweg is an international spiritual counselor and psychic medium. She has a laser like way of seeing relevant details in all the areas of your life.
nsense presence to her work, [:Clients experience life changing shifts working with Laura. She assists her clients in getting in touch with their authentic selves and exploring new opportunities in their careers, relationships, and lives. She specializes in guiding her clients through major life changes and challenges. And I just want to insert here that all of the ways to get in touch with Laura can be found in the show notes of this episode.
m going to turn this over to [:All right. I'm going to, I'm going to shift gears here because we have another topic we wanted to talk about and I'm going to run out of, run out of time. Obviously we could just keep talking for hours, but I'm going to, I'm going to reign us in a little bit because the last time you were here, one of the things that we did not get to was mediumship and I'm fascinated by this because it's not something that I do, but I, I get visitations, which I didn't know was a different thing, but so tell us a little bit about what mediumship is.
And then we'll go
Laura: from there. Okay. I love this topic because there's a lot of misconceptions and a lot of people use psychic and medium interchangeably. They're not the same thing. This is the biggest thing that, the biggest myth out there and misunderstandings that I find around mediumship.
scribe it is everyone in the [:Hmm. Okay, this is not true . Mediumship is a gift that you need to be born with. If you are born with the gift, somebody can help you develop that gift, okay? Absolutely. There's all kinds of workshops and things that can help you be, get, become a stronger medium and increase that gift. But if you are not born with that gift.
oing to these classes is not [:He's probably the what I call the father of mediumship. He's, he's the one that was originally out there. He's been out there for decades. He was the one who originally went on TV and started doing evidentiary mediumship. He was involved in the television. He was the consultant for the television. Program, the medium and all it was based on.
id exactly what I just said. [:the basic idea of mediumship is a medium is what I call an antenna, because mediums don't go out there and grab people on the other loved ones on the other side and drag them and make them talk. What a medium actually does is we're like an antenna, and we pick up what they're saying, we can hear people on the other side, so they know that we can hear them.
So they will come to mediums when they want to communicate with their loved ones, friends, whatever on the other side. Okay. So that's something that people don't really understand. They think we can go out and grab anyone out there. And this is what I always tell people when I'm doing mediumship work.
through. It's whoever shows [:Your person that you want, say it's your dad. Say you want to speak to your dad. Sometimes you're, I can see your dad showing up, but for whatever reason, he decides that he doesn't want to speak and there'll be somebody with him who speaks for him.
Hmm,
delivers information and stuff for him. I don't know.
mselves to me, they can show [:Or they have a choice to show themselves to me at any age that they want. Now an interesting thing started happening when I started really delving in and doing a lot of mediumship work is what I found is one of two things happens. I do. They show themselves to me at the age they passed. Or they would show themselves to me somewhere in around the age of 35 and this became an ongoing thing. And I kind of went to my guides like what's going on.
If they can show themselves to me at any age that they choose. Why are they so over and over again, showing themselves to me at around 35. Okay. And my guides being my guides, they said, figure it out.
ill often do something like, [:Mm-Hmm. . So I started trying to figure it out and what I discovered was I started thinking about my own life and I went, wait a minute. I had an interesting experience in my own life when I was about 35. And I never could quite put my finger on it. Why it happened. It wasn't really a happening. It was a sensation.
It was a feeling. It was the sense of coming of age. Mm. Okay. And I thought to myself, this is not what we're taught. Like we're taught, you know, 18 is like a coming of age. A lot of people in the states think of 21 is a coming of age, you know, because you can drink . Yeah, yeah. Because of all these manmade right criteria, right?
d that feeling at when I was [:Is that what this is about? And of course, because I got the answer myself, they went bingo. Yeah. Okay. So what I learned is the reason that all these people are showing themselves as around the age of 35. Is because the universe doesn't really consider us to be mature adults until we're around 35 years old.
he experiences of others and [:Yeah. Doesn't it? Now that you start to
Laurin: think about it. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm thinking back where, what was I doing when I was 35? And you know, exactly. Had some pretty big major life changes
Laura: about that time. Exactly. And actually, you know what, when I started thinking about it, I started thinking about it. You know what, nobody should be really allowed to have children until you're about 35.
Because, because when I think of honestly, though, I've thought about this and I've thought that there's way too many experience of children raising children, which I don't agree with. But that's another segue. Another session. But so that's, that's another thing. So that's very interesting thing.
al. Yeah, let's face it. You [:Okay. Yeah. So I just went, okay. No wonder these people keep because what they're showing me is themselves in the prime of life, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's another interesting thing that I learned. Okay. Now, there is also different kinds of mediums. most of the mediums that are quite famous and you see and do things on TV and all that kind of thing, or they kind of do what I call the shows.
They're what's called an evidentiary medium. Okay, their major kind of purpose is to convince people and show people that there is life after death.
Okay.
know that there's something [:The main thrust of it was they had messages for their loved ones. Okay. And I'm a messenger. I've always known that, that I'm a messenger. So my main thrust in terms of mediumship is not really, you know, convincing people that there's life after death and all that, and the other side exists and all that stuff.
ing, helping those people to [:Okay. I help to heal people in many, many ways. I help them to heal from grief. I help them to heal issues in their own life by getting to the core issues of what's going on with their life and why they're having issues and helping them to heal in the sense of finding the right direction. You talked in my introduction about finding the connection to their authentic selves, you know, helping people to find out who they really are.
Because let's face it, a lot of us have no idea because our society doesn't give us really the opportunity. In fact. Practically, since we're born, people are trying to convince us that we're someone that we're not. Yeah. Okay. So, my purpose has always been to help people to find out primarily who they really are and what they should really be doing and what they're.
Their [:This young, I was in a medium, I do mediumship in a group. Okay. Because that's the way I find it most healing and most effective for people. And there was a young man who came forward and he was speaking to, it wasn't actually somebody he was related to. It was a friend that knew their, his family. Because that's who was at this particular group.
lieved because of the police [:Okay, because there was no skid marks. There was no evidence that he tried to stop this from happening, or that there was an accident of some way, shape or form. It was a single. Well, you'd call it a single car, but it was a single. Accident. The police decided and nothing against them because they were going by the evidence.
They decided that this had to be a suicide that he intentionally took his own life. Well, through his message to his friend and his family was that this was not true, that he had never intended to take his own life, but he did take responsibility for causing his own death. Because he did something stupid and he did something that he knew better.
[:And he took a chance and he lost is basically the story. And what had happened is because he had all this cold medicine in his system. He fell asleep on his motorcycle and ended up in a tree. And this is why there was no skid marks. There was no evidence that he tried to avoid this collision.
had lost his life, but they [:That healed his entire family. Yeah. Wow. All his friends. Okay. And I'll tell you something else. Okay, this was a young man. He was only I think it was 17 or 18. It wasn't very, but also his brother, his younger brother was on the verge of suicide because of what had happened to his brother. Oh, my God. His best friend was also a mess and probably See, that's the thing suicide can have.
jeopardy of having two more [:You can just change things. Immensely. Okay. That's a very dramatic example, but there's, there's also incredible examples of simply 1 of the biggest things is people who are grieving and are riddled with guilt because. For whatever reason, they didn't get a chance to say goodbye to their loved one. I can't tell you how many people just cannot recover because they have such guilt on not being there or not having said goodbye.
at they don't care that they [:Okay. Yeah, that is super common. Okay. I can't tell you how many times hundreds of times that I have actually been with people. Who are so damaged by the fact that they didn't get a chance to say goodbye or weren't there when the person passed away. It's just unbelievable. Okay.
they know from a fundamental [:So, and I'll tell you, the other wonderful thing about mediumship circles is occasionally 1 or 2 people in the circle. Will not get a message from anyone who is in any way related to them. But what the real magic is, is almost infinitum. It'll be one of those people who will come up to me. At the end of the session, and they will have gotten the most, they will have gotten more out of the circle than any of the people that actually got a specific message.
Laurin: Yeah. Okay. Hold that thought for just a second. I got to
Laura: let my dog out. Okay. No worries. Yeah, go ahead.
to know. Mediumship is not a [:Okay. This is something that I've been. I don't want to use the word fighting against. I can't think of another word. I've been fighting against this since the moment that I stepped into my calling. Okay. Because there's a certain camp out there. That treats readings and psychic abilities as entertainment.
can be seriously affected by [:Now, I'm not saying that everybody at a psychic fare necessarily fits into that category, but I will tell you that a lot of them do, and it cheapens the energy, it cheapens. It, it, I, I, it lowers the vibration. That's a good way. There you go. There you go. It lowers the vibration of the work. Okay. And even people trying to do readings and stuff for people in an environment like that with all that crazy energy and the crowds and all that stuff going on, it is insanity as far as I'm concerned, from an energetic point of view.
Okay, yeah, I don't
of those. I've never been in [:Laura: was what actually I was been to, I had been to some before I even ever stepped into my calling and my practice. And I just went, I can't tell you how many times people have tried to drag me into working through that out of one of those.
And I have refused every single time because yeah, yeah. I. I, I
Laurin: got invited once and I think it was just before the pandemic and it got canceled kind of thing anyway, before I decided about it, but yeah, I, I work best right here in my office, you know, where my energy, I
Laura: would go and speak at one, I would go and like, we're talking here.
that environment? Absolutely [:Laurin: think I'm just ADD enough that that would not, I wouldn't be able to focus the way I need to.
So,
Laura: all right. I really don't think that I could do. Anybody I don't think that I wouldn't feel like I could do them justice in that kind of environment. And so I just don't do it. That's my that's my own integrity. But I have seen other psychics talk about doing parties and literally doing parties.
Yeah. No, people ask me, you know, you know, we're having a birthday party or something or whatever and, you know, we'd like you to come and do readings for people and stuff like that. And I've said, absolutely no, I've only done it, but I only did it once. But I did it in a format where the people I was not there physically, but what we did is what we're doing right now.
And each [:Okay, we really want to do this and we're serious about this. We know that it's not a joke and we know it's not entertainment. I said, good. And I said, how can you facilitate this? Because we really want you to do this. And I said, this is how we can do it. And they said, okay, let's do it that way.
Laurin: Yeah, good.
Yeah,
Laura: so that I would do anything else I would not do. Just for that reason. I think we, I
Laurin: think we are coming to a conclusion here.
I said, there has been even [:I think people have really had a lot of misinformation and misconceptions of what mediumship work really is.
Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. No, you certainly explained it to me because I, I've of course have known about it and known that it's communicating with those who've passed over, but I didn't really understand how that was different.
I, I, I experienced what I was recently told is, is visitations and it's all been family members who come to me because there's some message that they either need to get to me or for example, my mom came because she needed to help her next youngest sister who was really deeply in grief over my mom's death, and she needed me to get messages to her.
And so she did that a couple of times.
that are your loved ones and [:Yeah. Yeah.
Laurin: I had one experience that I think is more along the lines of, of mediumship and it was before I got into any of this work, but I was at a writer's conference. So this is a number of years ago now. And there was a woman who I knew, but not well. And her, her husband had just passed and they were young.
They were in their thirties, I think. And, and I, I was. About, I was sort of leaving the conference out in the street. She was coming across the street at the same time, you know, we were passing and I just wanted to say, I'm so sorry. I, you know, I, I heard the news and I'm so sorry, you know, for you. And all of a sudden, the next thing I knew I had my hands on her cheeks and on my face into her face going, you are so loved.
Yes. And I was [:Laura: I realized later
Laurin: that that was her grandmother coming through.
Somehow I got the knowing that that was her grandmother who just needed to get her that information. And I was, I was a
Laura: way to do that. That exactly that's what I call in a session being asked to be a messenger. Yeah. Yeah. You had a connection to that woman. Okay. The same thing happens in a circle.
ssage to their loved one and [:Okay. So they will come to a complete stranger that they know has a connection to their loved one and they will deliver the message. That's a great honor, by the way. Yeah. I mean,
Laurin: looking back on it, I was like,
Laura: wow, well, I'm going to tell you too, that almost Every time if I call it being asked to be a messenger, if you're asked to be a messenger, there will be a gift in it to you for you because you're gifting the person delivering their message.
ere was some gift, something [:Yeah. I wish, I
Laurin: wish I, I had known that at the time, so I would have noticed it, but it's been a long enough now that I don't really even know what
Laura: else is going on in my life. Yeah. But that always has, it's not the reason to do it, but the reason I mess, the reason I mention it is because it just profoundly shows that that energy is always.
Circular. Okay. If you're, if you're gifting energy to somebody, which is what you're doing by delivering the message that there is going to be some reciprocal energy gift to you. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Always happens. Yeah. Always.
Laurin: Yeah. I, I, now I wish I could, you know, like go back in time and watch. Oh,
Laura: I guarantee you there's a reason we're having this discussion.
similar, similar experience [:Laurin: Yeah. Yeah.
Laura: Fascinating. Nothing. Ha you know, I've just learned this. It just keeps getting beat into you in one way or the, in a gentle way.
But the uhhuh, it just keeps getting reaffirmed and reaffirmed. Okay. Nothing that comes up is ever a accident or a coincidence. Always a synchronicity. There is no such thing as accidents and there is no such thing as coincidence. It's always synchronicity. Always.
Laurin: I agree.
Laura: And that's what I love about the universe.
Yes. Okay. Is there
Laurin: anything else that you are being led to share today or that you want to share today that we haven't touched on
Laura: yet?
d. It's, they really want us [:So, that is a paramount importance because so many of us. I feel to be in service to others, but we forget that we need to be in service to ourselves 1st in order to really be able to do that in the world. So that is a very, very big message right now. And I can't think of a better time of year for people to hear that message.
Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. Thank you. And thank you guys.
Laura: All right.
Laurin: So can you let the listeners know where they can
Laura: find you?
e and testimonials and stuff [:I always I always recommend The best thing is either to best way is is email and my emails all over my website and it's really simple It's just Laura Hoorweg at gmail. com And I'm also all over Facebook so you can find me on Facebook both my personal profile which I do a lot of information on, and I also have a Facebook group, which is called Spirit Speaks to Me.
Imagine that. And the best, like I said, the best way to contact, and you can actually direct message me on Messenger too. But the best way if you're looking for contact and information is to just shoot me an email. Great. And all of that will
Laurin: be in the, in the show notes. So you can find it there if you didn't get a chance to write it down.
feel this over encompassing [:So that energy just goes out into the world because I think that's the most important thing that we can do. That's the
Laurin: biggest gift we can give to the world. So absolutely. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming back and having another incredible conversation with me.
Laura: Thank you so much for having me.
You're welcome.
Laurin: I'm sure we'll be in touch in the future.
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