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Dr Jonica Newby hosted Catalyst on ABC television for two decades and because of the knowledge that brought, she found herself suffering from climate grief and so with the support of NewSouth Publishing wrote "Beyond climate grief".

She covers the whole gamut of human emotions, including courage, humour, love, anger and creativity, and with regard the latter, talked with Australia singer/songwriter, Missy Higgins, about latest album, "Solastalgia".

Jonica who twice one the Eureka Award for science journalism talked with Climate Conversations from her "heart place" at Gerroa on the New South Wales coast.

The music on this espisode is from "Music for a Warming World".

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