Colorectal cancer is one of the deadliest cancers in the world. While older Americans are more likely to be diagnosed with colorectal cancer, it has been on the rise in people under the age of 50 in recent decades. In this episode, Dr. Maggie Westfal discusses details on new screening recommendations aimed to catch the disease in younger people. Dr. Maggie Westfal is a MUSC Health colon and rectal surgeon and a member of the MUSC Hollings Cancer Center.
Erin Spain, MS: Welcome to
Advance with MUSC Health.
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:I'm your host, Erin Spain.
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:This show's mission is to help you find
ways to preserve and optimize your health
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:and get the care you need to live well.
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:Colorectal cancer is one of the
deadliest cancers in the world.
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:And while older Americans are more
likely to be diagnosed with this disease,
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:it has been on the rise and people
under the age of 50 in recent decades.
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:This trend has led to new screening
guidelines to help catch this disease
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:earlier and younger populations and
offer access to leading edge treatments.
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:They can help people live longer lives.
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:Here with details on new
screening recommendations.
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:And the latest treatments is Dr.
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:Maggie Westfal and MUSC Health colon,
and rectal surgeon, and a member
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:of the MUSC Hollings cancer center.
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:Welcome to the show Dr.
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:Westfal.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: Thank
you so much for having me.
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:Erin Spain, MS: Tell me about
colorectal cancer and why it's a disease
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:that everyone should be aware of.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: From a general
population standpoint, colorectal
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:cancer is still the third leading
cause of cancer death in the United
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:States, and it's preventable.
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:It's preventable with screening,
and it's preventable with a
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:variety of screening tests.
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:So, from a colorectal cancer
surgeon perspective, we always
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:recommend a colonoscopy.
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:And the reason we say that is because
a colonoscopy can be diagnostic,
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:but it can also be therapeutic.
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:And so, if you see precancerous polyps
on a colonoscopy, you can remove
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:them before they develop into cancer.
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:And I think, Many people, in the
general population don't want to get
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:a colonoscopy because they hear the
stories from their friends about the
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:prep but it really is the best way
to prevent colon and rectal cancer.
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:Erin Spain, MS: And something
about colon cancer is that it
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:can develop without any symptoms.
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:Tell me about that.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: Yeah, and we're
seeing more and more patients with what's
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:defined as young onset colon cancer.
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:So, colon cancer in patients
less than 50 years old.
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:Historically, we thought of colon
cancer and rectal cancer as older
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:adults, 60s, 70s, 80 years old.
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:However, now we know that it's happening
at higher rates and those rates are
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:increasing in patients less than
50, whereas the rates are actually
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:decreasing in patients older than 50.
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:And I think that some of that comes from,
the hesitation to previously performed
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:screening tests in the younger population.
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:Like you mentioned, the guidelines have
now, decreased from 50 years old as the
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:starting of screening to 45 years old.
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:And I think that's because we're seeing
this disease in such younger patients.
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:but it's silent for many in that
they don't have abdominal pain.
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:They don't have changes
in their bowel habits.
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:They don't have cramping.
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:They don't have bleeding until it
gets to the point where it's, higher
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:stage disease than we would have
want to first initially find it at.
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:you know, what we say to patients
is if you find yourself having new
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:onset abdominal pain, bloating,
changes in your stool habits, that's
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:something to raise your red flag
and be seen by either your primary
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:care doctor or a gastroenterologist
or a colorectal surgeon.
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:Erin Spain, MS: what do researchers and
scientists know about this prevalence
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:of younger people getting colon cancer?
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:Is there a reason why this is happening?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: I Think
it's, it's really multifactorial.
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:we know that the hormonal
changes of obesity can increase
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:one's risk for colon cancer.
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:We know that our American diet, which
is often high in processed foods
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:and red meats, is pro inflammatory
and, can be, conducive to developing
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:polyps and then colon cancer.
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:And then our environment, which is
something which is so hard to study,
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:because how do you quantify environment
as a thing to then, say, Oh, patients
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:in the United States are at higher risk
than patients at a different country
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:when you can't really quantify what
that environmental difference is.
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:Genetics is a small portion of it.
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:It's really only, you know, less
than 10 to 15 percent of all patients
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:with early onset colon cancer.
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:I think environment, diet,
obesity, and then the other
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:factors we just don't know yet.
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:you know, the gut microbiome is something
that's up and coming in research and
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:that looks at the different types
of bacteria that live in our colon.
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:They think that having a lower variety of
bacteria may have you at increased risk
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:for inflammation and polyp development,
and then eventually colon cancer.
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:But it's still very
much a work in progress.
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:Erin Spain, MS: a piece of good news
is that we do have these screening
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:tools that are able to detect early
and as you mentioned, the screening
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:age has been lowered to 45 from 50.
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:Do you feel like this is something a lot
of folks know that they should be getting
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:their colonoscopies or doing another
screening method starting at age 45?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: I would say, no, I
don't think a lot of people know this yet.
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:And I think we can do a better
job of educating our patients.
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:when I tell say 10 people in clinic that
they're due for their colonoscopy at 45,
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:maybe half know, that 45 is the new age.
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:but I would say at least half don't, it
will be interesting to see in the next
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:10 years if that age goes from 45 to
40, as we see these cancers, you know,
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:coming in patients earlier and earlier.
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:if you're unwilling to undergo a
colonoscopy, like you mentioned,
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:there are other screening tests.
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:And there are stool tests that you can
send in from your home and there are
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:blood tests , and a variety of different
things that you can do, but like I
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:said, the best test is a colonoscopy
because it can also be diagnostic and
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:therapeutic in, treating those polyps
and decreasing your risk overall.
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:Erin Spain, MS: Talk
to me more about that.
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:How does colon cancer start and
what can be done to prevent it from
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:progressing to that cancerous state?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: Colon cancer starts
with a, pre cancerous polyp, which is
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:essentially an overgrowth of the lining
of the colon, and they can be a variety
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:of different types, but some will develop
into cancer, and others Don't, but the
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:reason why we remove them is because just
looking at them, we don't know which ones
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:are precancerous and which ones aren't.
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:On average, for patients without
a genetic predisposition to colon
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:cancer, it takes about eight years
for those precancerous polyps to
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:develop the genetic abnormalities to
then develop into cancer and grow.
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:In a patient with a genetic predisposition
to colon cancer, that can speed up to
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:over two to three years and be very quick.
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:And so the screening that we do
for those two different patient
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:populations is different.
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:And so the general population will
get screened every 10 years if
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:they don't have polyps, depending
on how many and what type of polyps,
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:the next screening test might
be 3 years, 5 years, or 7 years.
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:But in a patient that has a
genetic predisposition where that
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:precancerous polyp can develop
into cancer in maybe 2 years.
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:We often screen every one to two
years in that patient population.
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:Erin Spain, MS: Tell me more about
what makes someone high risk or how
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:they know that they're genetically
dispositioned to have colon cancer.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: It's really
important to try to find out your
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:family history when that's possible.
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:Ask your loved ones, is there a
history of cancer in our family?
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:What kind of cancers are in our family?
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:And the important question is, when did
our loved ones get diagnosed with cancer?
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:Was it in their 70s, 80s, and 90s?
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:Or were they getting diagnosed
with these variety of cancers
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:in their 30s or 40s or 50s.
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:And so, there's a set of guidelines that
we follow, that talks about how many
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:people in your family have colon cancer
or an associated cancer like endometrial
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:cancer, ovarian cancer, pancreatic cancer.
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:And when were they diagnosed?
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:Less than 50 or over 50?
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:And then do you have any first degree
relatives that also had those cancers?
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:So based on that kind of screening
assessment, we can say, it sounds
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:like you and your family are
at high risk for colon cancer.
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:We recommend genetic testing.
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:And that's if someone has colon
cancer, but it's not you personally.
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:If you personally come in and have a
history of just diagnosed colon cancer,
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:it's now universally accepted that
those patients get genetic testing.
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:And really it's for the patient to
know treatment options, etc., but
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:it's also for their family to know
that they need to be screened earlier
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:most often and more frequently.
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:Erin Spain, MS: You mentioned
that there is a way to look at
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:genes and your genetics to find
out if you are at higher risk.
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:Can you tell me about that?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: often we screen
patients with colon and rectal cancer.
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:They all get genetic testing universally.
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:Here at MUSC, If a patient comes
into clinic and doesn't necessarily
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:have a family history of colon cancer
or personal history of colon cancer,
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:MUSC is actually enrolling patients
in a study called In OUR DNA SC and
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:it's a community health project that
was launched by MUSC, which allows for
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:the enrollment of 100, 000 patients
to get genetic testing at no cost.
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:And so, sometimes insurance will
not necessarily cover genetic
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:testing if patients don't
have a strong family history.
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:A history or a personal history of cancer.
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:So this gives you the opportunity to
be screened and entered into a genetic
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:and research database that'll allow us
to look at these genes more closely and
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:try to reduce the risk of cancer, in
our population here in South Carolina.
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:Erin Spain, MS: How young are
the youngest patients that you're
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:screening who are at high risk?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: so if someone has a
hereditary disposition to colon cancer,
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:which, typically is referred to Lynch
syndrome, they'll get screened starting at
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:20 unless the younger person was 20 when
they were diagnosed with colon cancer.
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:then it typically falls
about five years before that.
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:Personally, I've seen patients with
colon and rectal cancer as young as 16.
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:so it's really important to know
your family history and know
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:when you need to start thinking
about getting a colonoscopy.
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:Erin Spain, MS: This issue of younger
people being diagnosed is something that
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:you're very interested in and that you
are actually conducting research about.
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:Can you tell me about that work?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: I'm really
interested in hereditary colon cancer,
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:rectal cancer, and looking at not
only the patients that experience
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:that from a patient perspective,
but also their family members.
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:So, trying to identify at risk families
and assess how well we're doing with
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:our guideline concordance screening.
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:So, are we, getting these patients to the
doctors every year to get their screening
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:tests or because they're not the one
that had cancer, are we not doing well?
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:and so I'm trying to assess the families
as a whole instead of just the patients
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:to make sure that, we're trying to prevent
cancer from happening in these family
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:members, before it becomes a problem.
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:Erin Spain, MS: I understand
that certain racial and ethnic
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:communities are also more likely to
be affected by this type of cancer.
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:Tell me about some of those disparities
that are seen among different groups.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: from a historic
standpoint, African Americans are
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:typically diagnosed at a higher
stage, a later stage, and often
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:have, worse outcomes overall.
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:I don't know that we know
for sure why that is.
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:but I think it's a topic
that we have to look into.
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:We have to find a way to get
preventative care to every patient
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:across all races and ethnicities.
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:is it because patients aren't
getting screened as often?
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:Is it because the access
to care is different?
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:Is it because the perception
of colonoscopies is different
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:across different cultures?
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:I don't think we know that for sure, but
it's definitely something that would be
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:interesting to look at from a research
perspective in order to better the
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:care that we provide to all patients.
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:Erin Spain, MS: What are the survival
rates for colorectal cancer if it's
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:discovered in an early stage and then
if it's discovered at a later stage?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: usually
with survival rates we look at
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:Most often five year survival.
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:That's what people usually remember when
they're diagnosed with colon cancer.
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:You know, what's my risk
of dying within five years?
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:And essentially overall, the
five year survival rate is 63%.
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:But if you look at stage one and stage
two cancers, that survival rate is as high
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:as 91%, which is, you know, very good.
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:when you get to stage three
disease, it's about 70%.
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:And when you get to Metastatic
disease, it's about 13 to 15%.
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:So overall, when you average
those, it comes out to about 60%.
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:But like we said, early stage disease,
you're getting your colonoscopies.
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:It's discovered early, that's about 90%.
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:And then as you get higher, stage
three and stage four, it goes down.
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:Erin Spain, MS: what's a piece of
advice that you would like to offer
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:to our listeners regarding colon
cancer awareness and prevention?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: getting a colonoscopy
can be scary, and it's often the
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:unknown that's most anxiety provoking,
but talk to your providers about it.
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:There's a variety of different prep
options now, and I would say patients
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:are tolerating it much, much better
than the past when patients used
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:to drink four liters of this salty
solution and be miserable and complain
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:about it and come in dehydrated, you
know, we don't often use that prep.
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:It's usually a much smaller
volume and much more tolerable.
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:So I would say if you're 45,
definitely get to your provider,
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:get a referral for a colonoscopy.
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:But also, if you're worried and
you're having abdominal symptoms or
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:you have a change in bowel habits
and you're really not sure what to
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:do, definitely talk to your provider.
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:Don't wait six months, don't
wait a year for it to get better.
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:The earlier that we can get you to get
a colonoscopy and hopefully find nothing
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:and at least ease your worry, The better.
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:If we do find something, then
we can follow you closely.
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:And if we don't, then you can,
you know, be screened at the
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:appropriate time going forward.
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:Erin Spain, MS: The last question
is something we ask everyone
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:who comes on this podcast.
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:What do you do to optimize
your health and live well?
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:Maggie Westfal, MD:
That's a great question.
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:what I will say is I have been
more thoughtful about trying to
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:not eat as many processed foods.
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:I have two kids and so we've been trying
to limit the amount of processed foods
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:that we can with the understanding
that sometimes you're on a road
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:trip and you need some McDonald's.
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:And so I think, moderation
is the key in our house.
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:But if I'm being completely honest, what
I really should do is start taking fiber
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:and making my gut health even healthier.
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:So, maybe that'll be my
New Year's resolution next
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:Erin Spain, MS: Thank you so much, Dr.
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:Maggie Westfal for coming on the show, we
appreciate your time and expertise today.
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:Maggie Westfal, MD: Thank
you so much for having me.
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