Stephanie Szostak has played unforgettable roles on screen, but in her newest film Soul on Fire coming out October 10, she steps into a true story about a mother whose tough love helped save her son’s life. It’s a story that hit home for Stephanie, not only as an actress, but as a mom.

Stephanie opens up about the moments when love has meant letting go or taking a risk, whether in parenting, friendship, or even in her own journey of becoming an actor at 29. She shares about the teachers who pushed her, the mentors who challenged her, and the delicate balance between comfort and courage.

What You’ll Hear:

• Things no one tells you about tough love (03:56)
• The story behind her new movie Soul on Fire  (04:18)
• Acting lessons that began with brutal honesty  (13:23)
• Finding mentors who deliver the hard truths  (20:17)
• Beginning again at 29 and discovering acting  (26:26)
• The surprising ways tough love can lead to growth  (27:57)

Stephanie’s story is a reminder that the hardest words can sometimes be the most loving, and that those moments of tough love often plant seeds we don’t see until years later.

You can watch this interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ay3Q__fDA3w 

For a full transcript and more, check out our blog post: https://www.lindsaycz.com/show-notes/stephanie-szostak-18 

Check out more from Stephanie Szostak:

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[00:00:23] I am not good enough. I'm gonna be found out I'm a fraud. Basically,

[00:00:48] But we had to call an audible and just make it work. Which I love because the guest on this week's episode is a good friend of mine who often is on the road working from the road. She's my friend, actress Stephanie Tack. And she also, if you didn't know, was a collegiate golfer at William and Mary.

[00:01:26] She is just so amazing. The work that she's done is well noted. She started acting, actually, later in life. She's been in some awesome movies and series. The Devil Wears Prada dinner, for Schmucks a lot more, but also A Million Little Things on ABC I loved her and the role of Delilah. But anyway, she's just so awesome and someone that I've come to like

[00:02:06] It's based on the story of John O'Leary, who as a boy suffered severe burns and, his life journey after she plays John's mother. And hearing her explanation of how the role came to be, also how she got ready for the role. Oh my gosh, it's so fascinating. But also, Stephanie's just a masterful storyteller, so she weaves it all together, and there's just so much always to learn from her.

[00:02:52] What is your vibe right now? What have you got going on?

[00:03:03] Lindsay: I love it. It is so funny. It's been quite a while, and I'm like, oh, you do forget how it sort of gives you that free pass to just like chill or let a candle or just be cozy, you know?

[00:03:34] Normally, in things no one tells you, we sort of wait. It reveals what the thing no one told. The guest or the guests along their journey, but I loved that you really, out of the gate, were thoughtful about this and came to the table ready to go. So, can you share what your thing no one tells you is that we really are gonna have fun diving into today?

[00:04:11] Lindsay: I love that. How did you come up with that?

[00:04:18] That's called Soul on Fire, and it's coming out October 10th in theaters. But it's a true story. And, the character that I play is a mom. I'll tell you the story, but I play a mom who is the most loving mother. Her son got burned on a hundred percent of his body from the neck down. And when he comes back from five months in the hospital and his fingers are amputated and he can't walk, she gives him.

[00:05:15] And when he hears that knock on the door and he hears the voice of Mrs. Whitaker, who's his piano teacher, he's like, Mom, what is she doing here? You know, he has no fingers. He's not going to school because he can't walk yet. And she says to him. Because it's time for your piano lesson, and I don't know, you know, you're not different than your brothers and sisters.

[00:05:43] Lindsay: That gives me such chills.

[00:06:03] It's a beautiful book that I read years ago. And he says in that moment. I hated my mom. But now John also gives; he is a motivational, inspirational speaker. And when he speaks, you know, he lets you do a little bit of reflection during his speech, and he invariably goes to the piano that's on stage. And he plays while, you know, during his time, during his and now.

[00:06:39] That is so just incredible. Okay, so the movie is called Soul on Fire. It comes out October 10th, and I really also want to chat with you about the thing No One tells you about Tough Love as it pertains to sports and your journey and your career, et cetera, and also like parenting that we're sort of hitting on in the film.

[00:07:07] Yes. So about 15 years ago, my husband went to a, not a retreat, but an event with his company, and they had a speaker there. The speaker was John O'Leary, and Britt, my husband, came home with a DVD, and he was like, You, we have got to watch this.

[00:07:51] Louis. You'll enjoy this 'cause you're Yes. You're in this world of sports.

[00:07:57] Stephanie: Yes.

[00:07:58] Stephanie: Yes. Yes.

[00:08:18] But then Jack Buck came back again and again, and then players from the team came. So anyway, this segment was, you can look it up on YouTube, look it up on YouTube. John O'Leary, MLB Network. And so we're watching this, and I'm just like, oh my God, this is amazing. I'm crying watching it. And then, years later, John writes his memoir, we read his memoir, and then he starts his podcast.

[00:09:09] Lindsay: And, you had never met him because

[00:09:10] Lindsay: This was all just the story that was told from Brit because

[00:09:14] Lindsay: Was so moved,

[00:09:29] And what helps you go forward? For him, it was obviously a lot of things: community, faith, family. All of that. Anyways, he said, yes. I got on his podcast, this was seven years ago, and then two years ago, when his movie, you know, was about to start in production, he texted me and he said, Hey, do you know the cute brunette who could play my mom?

[00:10:13] Lindsay: Wait. I feel like I know you shared that story, but maybe not in that detail. That is just bananas.

[00:10:24] Stephanie: It really is. It really is. Because also, you know, he didn't have me audition for nothing. He just really convinced the producers. He was like, This is who I want to play, my mom.

[00:10:44] I love it. Yes, it is just like meant to be. So when he called you and said that, what was going through your mind?

[00:11:16] Lindsay: So. Wow. So what? What goes into that? Playing a real person? I would never even think that an actor thinks about that, but that's. The first thing you said, and I got that right. What is that like?

[00:11:41] reading her book. She wrote the book before John wrote his. Book Overwhelming Odds. She and her husband wrote that book, so re-read that book. I had actually read it. Brit brought it home with that DVD too, and is trying to really see how she and I connect. And then I found an amazing dialect coach who helped me.

[00:12:32] Lindsay: So how does her mouth move? Can you do it?

[00:12:59] Her eyes are piercing when she's talking to somebody. She's right there with you in the moment. She's a lot stronger than I am. I think, you know, I' a little bit like, woo, a little bit all over the place. She's just who, but she's also very spontaneous. Anyway, this is what an actor does.

[00:13:23] Stephanie: It was a lot of work. I had a great teacher who really helped me. Every day I practiced. She actually told me, You work too hard. We're gonna do 10 minutes a day. That's all you need to do. 10 minutes a day, and you know, I did it every day. I'm very conscientious like this. And then by the time I got on set, I warmed up in the morning, and then I was trying to let go.

[00:14:10] You're not gonna be like, oh God, you're just gonna say grace, and then you're gonna do it again. I've kept that for other things too.

[00:14:38] Stephanie: So I met her when I got to St. Louis. Before we started shooting, John organized a meeting, a little lunch with Susie, Susan O'Leary, and I asked her, and we we right away in. She was so generous and open, and I asked her, Can you tell, share with me your earliest memory?

[00:15:25] I can't, I'm trying to think about it. Mine now, you know? Yeah. If you can do self-analysis. But she said it was her in reality, young at home with her sister playing, and their grandmother lived with them. And she remembers her grandmother saying a lot, Susie, come help me in the bath.

[00:16:08] And then her husband had Parkinson's disease for 30 years. So I thought, wow, that's quite amazing. She's, you know, her earliest memory is of being a caregiver and. This is how she's shown up in the world for people. Is being a caregiver a giver?

[00:16:37] Stephanie: Pretty close, they were still tweaking it. I'll share one other thing about kind of tough love. Yeah. It's actually interesting 'cause I asked my son, you know, and yesterday as we were preparing for this podcast, I was like, do you think I've given you tough love at times? And he said. Yes, at times. But it only works because most of the time you're its support and validation and listening.

[00:17:37] Half a cha, half a percent of surviving this night. And so she hears that from the doctor. So she runs to the guardian to tell her son that she loves him. And he says, I know. He says, Mom, am I gonna die? And she says to him, I don't know. John, do you wanna die? And later she explained that because it's such a surprising thing to say, right?

[00:18:23] Lindsay: Yeah,

[00:18:35] And he said to her, he, no, I don't wanna die. And then she said, and this is not in the movie, but it's what she actually said in real life. She said, Well, then you're gonna have to fight. You're gonna have to run faster than you've ever run, on that soccer field, and you're gonna hold God's hand. And daddy and I are gonna be right by you.

[00:19:15] Lindsay: And, did he ever, has, he mention what that meant to him?

[00:19:23] Stephanie: Yeah, he says, my mom, you know, he credits, I mean, he, he credits, he says, my story's not about me. It's about all the people who have come to help me believe in myself. Whether his mom, the nurses who helped him try to walk again when people said you wouldn't be able to walk, or when it was so painful.

[00:20:00] Lindsay: That I do feel like it's, the concept of tough love is. Especially in parenting is hard. It is like, but you're right. It's like those moments that you wonder, like, where did she find those words? Right?

[00:20:15] Lindsay: You just,

[00:20:47] And in this essay, like when they were Max was 10, you have to tell me what happened and why it happened and what you're gonna do, what you learned, and what you're gonna do differently next time. And

[00:20:59] Stephanie: Right? But they were like having, I, it was tough love, but then.

[00:21:06] Stephanie: Yes, and if they, Max said, sometimes I would just, you know, mail it in, and she'd be like, No, that's not good enough.

[00:21:34] And I think everyone's path with that is so different. Like some people have one real constant. Person, whether it's a professional person or a family member. memberAnd I was thinking back to my, I was like, my mom is really good at tough love, but only like. It's funny how, when you think about it on the other side, I think I'm wired a bit like my son, unfortunately.

[00:22:15] You know, and it's exactly what you're talking about. But I remember when we were leaving. This is totally different from your movie topic, but we were moving from Washington, D.C., and I, Melvin, was getting married. We were coming to Connecticut, and we made that move because both of us had job opportunities and we got them at the same time, which was really rare in our industry.

[00:23:03] I was around all my friends. I was, it was just this real warm, fuzzy, awesome experience, and my mom. The morning we moved. I'm not gonna cry when I say this. She texts me, I almost went downstairs to ask her, 'cause she's visiting and I was like, we're both gonna be crying on the floor. I'm not gonna do that.

[00:23:40] John's mom felt obviously in that moment, right? Yeah, very different stories, but I was just like, how awesome is that? Well, this is a disaster.

[00:24:02] We, we've, we know everything about one another. We don't speak that often, actually. Yeah. Yeah. But when we do sp but we call each other when we are in a mess. And when, you know, it's like, and when you feel like you just can't get it right and you can't figure it, it's the safe person where you can go when you, like, you're saying you're in that sort of spiral and you're like, da and these girlfriends are like, okay, yeah, okay, fine, but that's enough.

[00:24:39] Lindsay: Yeah, I really, so that's why I really love the topic, and I think that it is funny, almost comical when I attempt to do that with my son, but he really responds to it, right?

[00:25:01] Lindsay: Yeah, it's what you said. She gave me agency, and I think that's, you're right. It's like when you do it effectively, you're giving the other person, the agency.

[00:25:27] Stephanie: That was my first and second, too. Second is like, can you not come to the bus with me?

[00:25:48] You gotta get it. You go up to that school, you walk in there, you walk in there like you feel like LeBron James on the basketball court. I was like, I wanna see that kid that played in that game last weekend. You are that kid, and you can, you know, like, I'm not saying that it was the right thing that I was saying, but he was just like, yeah, okay.

[00:26:08] Stephanie: It's such good, because you don't think about it, but it's like, okay, we're giving you, give your person the self-talk in the present tense of the things that they're like, yeah, I'm able to do that. I've done that. Yeah, you're giving them the right voice in their head,

[00:26:44] Yes. I love that story. Yeah. Can you just share what that was like, because I believe, I think it's really awesome and such a great example for people out there. You follow the seed of what the passion is, a nd you ask the questions, and you do the things you know, and that's oftentimes what can really lead to really amazing doors opening.

[00:27:35] I had a business degree, and a door opened that led me to have an opportunity to do modeling at 26. And I did that. I left a steady job. I knew I didn't wanna be a model, but I knew that the office job wasn't really lighting me up for a, to use the expression you and I used a lot together. And then that led me to take an acting class.

[00:28:23] Sort of escape and yet just be really truthful. I was like, This is the most freeing thing I have ever done in my life. I love this. Oh my gosh. And I'm good at it. And then, we had scene work, and so I was getting up to do my first scene in front.

[00:28:46] But what is that like when you realize? That you're really good at something that wasn't even in your sphere at that point in your life. Does that make sense? Yes. Isn't that wild?

[00:29:09] Wow. Yeah. And I, for many years, I've just. Pushed back a lot of stuff, and I'm in my twenties, I'm not sure who I am. I feel like I'm wearing, you know, five different masks depending on who I'm with. And this was a way to express myself. The light, the dark. It was auxiliary.

[00:29:31] Stephanie: So, no, I love it. Raise your hand. Sorry. So I get, I'm very excited, and I get up with my scene partner, and we're probably 30 seconds in the scene, and I say to my partnerThisis This is a line in the scene, do you believe me? And, my teacher, whose name is Sandra Lee, was from the Actors' Studio, goes, stop.

[00:30:16] You don't. Do you even know who your character is? Where are you right now? And she started asking me, drilling me about who this character is. And then, I guess as she was drilling,

[00:30:31] Stephanie: No, I'm just standing there, and you know, when you're nervous, sometimes you can smile.

[00:30:57] And you are not to get up until I tell you're ready, and you're just gonna learn. I mean, talk about brutal, tough love. I think so, and this is about this, this is not parenting, this is our teachers, our mentors. And I think some of the greatest teachers know what their students can take or not take.

[00:31:48] Like, yeah, I know nothing about this.

[00:31:53] Stephanie: So it made me accountable. It made me work hard. It made me wanna prove myself. And, you know, years later, I still hear her voice in my head.

[00:32:15] Stephanie: Well,

[00:32:16] Stephanie: Well, I stayed in her class for about two years, a little over two years. Wow. And then, you know, she, then she was a cheerleader for me, but then it became almost, there was something I was like, okay, this is a little unhealthy, in, in, and. It had just run its course, and I was like, I need to go to a different teacher now.

[00:32:52] Lindsay: Yeah, that's, love my best like boss was actually the one that was the most like, it was like bootcamp. It was George Michael in Washington, D.C., where I did sports.

[00:33:23] And I, and. It's funny 'cause that was a wake-up call for me. 'cause I'm like, okay, I've really got to just dial in. And there's a lot I don't know about, about the intricacies of the sport, 'cause it's not one that I had played, but also just, you know, TV in itself. So I do love that sometimes the tough love is also what you just said.

[00:34:09] The night I was starting, I was like ready to pee my pants. I was so nervous, but I was excited. Like, I feel like I always kind of get those, that nervous feeling. But he knocks on thee, wooden separator between us, knock, knock. He's like, Zac, don't f it up, is basically what he said. And I was like, Oh my God.

[00:34:45] Get the best out of them and not have them become shrinking violets, but like meet them where they are. That's such an underrated, I think, special talent, you know?

[00:35:04] Also, I had an actor that I worked with, James R. Rodriguez, on A Million Little Things, who's so talented, you know, we all look up to him, and before,

[00:35:18] Stephanie: he plays Gary on a Million Little Things. Also, if there are any Psych fans, you know, he. Yes.

[00:35:50] So in the workforce, it can be. There's a cool little dynamic that can make you, again, make your game, get to a higher level, or raise your game. What do you say?

[00:36:19] Have created selfish, which is, sort of in response to the imposter syndrome that you have talked about a little bit. And I just think that is so relatable. I was literally on a call today with a group that is doing a panel talk and in an event that I'm going to be at, and they were talking about imposter syndrome, and I was like, Oh my gosh, this is like, anyway.

[00:36:47] Stephanie: Yeah. I, well, I think another thing people don't tell you is when you get to the place that you've been working for so long, that, and you've worked hard, and finally you're there at the place,, and now you land in that place,, and instead of being like, yes, okay, I'm ready.

[00:37:30] Called dinner for schmucks, and I'm playing opposite Paul Rudd. You've heard this story a lot. I love this story. Paul Rudd, Steve, it shocks me every time you say it. I'm like, what? And I really just lost my coconfidenceemember my self-talk basically after most takes was, Ohh my gosh, that sucked my own performance, you know?

[00:38:18] And so I, it just, it impacted not only my performance, but also how I related to other people and my wellbeing. And that happened for about two years. The good thing is it led me to seek to learn tools, like self-talk and a whole bunch of other tools that help not only with confidence on set.

[00:39:03] I would read books or get an aha moment, and then I'd forget. And so that led me to create a playbook, just like. A coach, a football coach, you see them on the sidelines with their play sheet. They are not relying on memory to call the play. They're constantly looking at their play sheet. And so what if we could have our own personal playbook that we could look at in the morning before we get distracted by the news?

[00:39:45] Lindsay: So it all, it almost becomes part of like our meditation

[00:39:52] Lindsay: Your mental prep. Yeah. I think that, The tough love too, that just the aspect of the pr, it's just, it's all very fascinating to me because I think what there's, there was no one, so tell me this, like when you started to work your way through the process for being on set and having that emotion, like did you ever find that there was anyone that would say like, Hey, great job, or like, 'cause I think about this all the time.

[00:40:39] Oh, dah, which is a blessing if you are, but it's like. You can sometimes really struggle if there's just not constant feedback, validation, or justification. Right. Validation.

[00:40:49] Lindsay: Right. So I think my question is. Did you ultimately make peace with maybe not having that validation, and really, it comes down to just your own confidence, or did you find ways, other ways to find that validation?

[00:41:32] Pushed Really? So if a teacher, I had a math teacher in sixth grade who was really mean to me. I was bad at math, and I became one of the best students in math thanks to this teacher because again, I was like, there's maybe a pattern here. Like your acting coach? Yeah, my acting coach, my math teacher. So, growing up, I was always uncomfortable with compliments.

[00:42:18] If you pay me a compliment, I'm gonna prove to you the next second that you're wrong. And f it up. So this is a lot of something I've had to learn. But, the point of the validation that you brought up, I think, if we don't believe self-worth doesn't come from validation. Whether you get it or not, self-worth comes from you, your own self, what you believe about yourself.

[00:43:02] I am not as talented or as experienced or as successful as Paul Rudd and Steve Carell, and that's okay. I am learning. Oh my God, I'm so grateful that I'm here. Yeah. I get to learn from them. I get to learn from them. And you know what? I'm gonna take a risk on this stake. I'm just gonna let go and play, and it's okay.

[00:43:35] Lindsay: Wow. And then also. The tough love you have experienced, in sports, on the golf course. I would love to hear, because Stephanie is a collegiate golfer, went to William and Mary, where she golfed, and you have such great stories about the game of golf and about just in general, but tough love.

[00:44:03] Stephanie: Yeah. In regard to tough love. So I started playing when I was. 11. So, my dad taught me the game of golf. He's one of my greatest teachers on the golf course and in life

[00:44:42] And, I get on the green. I am gonna try to say this in a way that even if you don't golf, you understand I'm, oh, everybody mini golfs. So I'm on the green, the ball. I put my putter behind the ball, I look to the hole, and as I look, my putter moves slightly and moves the ball a little bit out of the way before I put, and so I look at the woman I'm playing with.

[00:45:29] And, that's a penalty stroke. You cannot move the ball. And I was so angry, but it was tough love, and he taught me, yeah, not to. Cheat. And I think not to give up. Not to give up. Yeah. Just like, yeah. And you just, you, also in golf, you're not playing against anyone. You're playing against yourself, and it's so easy to hit a ball in the water and be like, I'll just hit another one, but.

[00:46:14] Stephanie: Yeah. Yeah. I guess life, I mean, that's a good way to look at life, to, it's kind of liberating when you stop comparing yourself, you're just like, it's me against me.

[00:46:34] LindsaySoso with your, with the film coming out and everything, like what do you, are there, I guess are there goals that you have? I know that might sound like a silly question, but what is it that you're thinking about right now that you think you would love to see happen?

[00:47:01] Lindsay: This is a very new development. You had one up until very recently.

[00:47:20] And I mean. No matter what area you work in, there's development. All of a sudden, you are, you don't know what team you're gonna be on. There are mergers, and you dunno if your job is secure. And so, yeah, I would love that. That's what I hope for is just to find the right agent and a good partnership.

[00:48:04] This change is happening. Uh oh, there's the writing on that wall. That means that I'm, I might be the odd man out. It just is what it is. It's business, but it's like you're, right? There is something about, you know, work is great, and especially if it's meaningful work. And if it's work that doesn't feel like work, then that's the best.

[00:48:44] Stephanie: Yeah.

[00:49:10] But you know, I could say all these things, and no, the fact is that the relationship came to an end for the reasons that it did. And that's okay. And I, what can I do? What's in my control? That's all I'm gonna focus on. And maybe I'm gonna be out of a job, but I know I love acting. I'm never gonna quit. And.

[00:49:34] Lindsay: You did not stop it.

[00:49:36] Lindsay: You did not.

[00:49:42] Lindsay: Okay. Wait, so, so what are the steps then? How do you handle that? Because you're really right. Like there, there is a lot of self-talk that can happen. I literally had, I have this art class each week, and I found myself using it as more of a therapy session yesterday because I was like, Steven, I just don't know. I just think I'm washed up. I just think, and you know, and the same thing.

[00:50:10] Stephanie: You know, but make space for that, so like you're taking art, so. Make a self-portrait of all of that. Of what, and then because there's something interesting that when we say things and we make space for those feelings. To express them, but we know we are not those feelings.

[00:50:54] Usually it has, it's important or it's, I, our bigger self sees it and is like, oh, okay, yo, can get, gain perspective on it.

[00:51:23] Like if I. I would so much rather have it be like, oh, so we really liked your work, but we went in this direction, the wind and I, don't, I'm curious how you'd, in your field, it must be, I would imagine even like. I don't know, do they tell you like I, when there's something that like I will go for and if it hasn't worked out, and I'm thinking about a recent experience where there was like, I'm not kidding, it was sort of this dream job situation and I was like, now I know what makes me feel alive.

[00:52:12] But like, I'm like, well, great, but like why? Right? Like, so I guess maybe it kind of goes back to your like, I'm not, you're not always gonna get feedback, and you're not always gonna hear a reason. And I think you really, and Melvin, my husband, will be like, you just have to get comfortable with the fact that people don't like telling people things that they know they're not gonna be happy about.

[00:52:36] Stephanie: Yes. I know the waiting is excruciating, but also when you're, when it gets down to two people and you go through all the loops, there no nothing you did wrong. You know, at the end of the day is, oh, it's a better fit as an actor, it's like, oh, whatever the fit, and it doesn't matter. The reasonist, there's a certain level, if you get to that.

[00:53:14] Lindsay: That is very true.

[00:53:17] Lindsay: That was a helpful thing. Yeah. I was like, you know, that's, that is the thing that I would really be like, yes, I will, that I could prioritize that.

[00:53:47] And he's like, Lindsay, I know that happened. And I was like, well, like who cares? Why am I even like? Who am I talking to? I don't know. Anyway, it's such a mind warp. And I guess my point is, at this point in the game, to have that still happen, it's like. Really having tough love with yourself, but what you've said during this episode of Grace, just like, yes, I love it.

[00:54:29] Stephanie: Yeah. I love to eat with my fingers. Ribbed steak on a bone.

[00:55:10] This is really embarrassing. I can carry a tune, but I had an audition once, and I went to a studio, and the guy was like, Ohh, okay, yeah, you got a good voice. And then we started recording, and I was like, What's happening? I can't come in at the time I'm supposed to come in. I'm either a little late or a little early. What's happening

[00:55:33] Lindsay: He's like, I'm sorry.

[00:55:42] Lindsay: I mean, maybe, but yeah, it might just be a thing. Yeah, I don't, I love it. Is there anything you wanna share about Soul on Fire before? Before we say bye-bye?

[00:55:56] To the movie theater. It's, I'm so excited that it's gonna be in the movie theaters. This is a family movie. It has, I didn't say it. William H. Macy and John Corbett, if you're Sex and the City fans. And yeah, Mr. Big. Yeah. No, Amy didn't. We didn't. Aiden.

[00:56:19] Stephanie: So go see Soul on Fire on October 10th in the movie theaters.

[00:56:31] Stephanie: Yeah, but I'm not in it.

[00:56:40] Stephanie: No, I'm definitely, so I'll tell you behind the scenes if you wanna include this.

[00:57:06] Lindsay: Did you get a response?

[00:57:22] Lindsay: I do. I was thinking, as you said, you are validating. What I naturally, in my mind, would've thought is, well, you've gotta write the email.

[00:57:31] Stephanie: Yes, exactly right. Yeah.

[00:57:45] Stephanie: Isn't that a great idea?

[00:57:54] Lindsay: So I just think the whole story of the story that people will see when they go to the theaters or they watch this movie wherever they watch it is incredible in itself. But then just hearing your backstory with it, the connection, it is just so, so cool.

[00:58:14] Stephanie: You'll have to tell. Give me tough love, please, Lindsay.

[00:58:25] Stephanie: I love hanging out with you. Thanks, Lindsay.

[00:58:46] We have everything that you need to know in there. But also, please don't forget Soul on Fire in theaters on October 10th. I cannot wait to go see that in a theater and watch Steph up there on the big screen. All right. Thank you guys so much for joining us for this episode of Things No One Tells You. Can't wait to see you next time.

[00:59:20] We are so grateful that you're a part of it. See you next time.