This week the Two Men on the Run are joined by an old school friend of Jon-Jo's who just joined the illustrious Bob Graham Round Club, Michael Lucas.

The Men discuss how Michael went from someone who hated running to taking on the classic Lake District 24-Hour Challenge and what might be his next challenge. Mindfulness is explored from that of meditation to Michael's place of freedom high up in the mountains living life on the edge. Plus as a Vascular Scientist, Michael offers Jon-Jo some advice to help with his problem discussed way back in episode 3.