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October 14, 2025 | Matthew 13, Luke 8
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00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:17 The Importance of Church Attendance

00:54 Understanding Parachurch Organizations

02:58 Defining the Church

06:01 Guidelines for Personal Bible Study Resources

09:55 Exploring Parables in Matthew 13

14:52 Parables and Teachings in Luke 8

19:38 Conclusion and Prayer

20:26 Outro and Podcast Information

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible podcast.

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Good.

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Good morning.

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We didn't mention it, but it's Monday.

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So yesterday was Sunday.

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Hopefully you went to church.

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So yeah.

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Happy.

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We assumed it Sunday, a day ago.

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It's Monday.

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We assumed that you were

going to church though.

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We assumed we didn't even bring it.

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We, yeah, we just assumed that

you were gonna be there already.

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Yeah.

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And church is good to attend.

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I know there's a lot of other options

that are out there that people go to.

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A lot of different things.

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I was thinking about

gonna a different one.

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Were you But I showed up.

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I'm like, I should probably be there.

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I mean, it's good.

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Because , if you went to another one,

they might not know that you're a pastor.

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And so when you stood up and

grabbed the guitar and started

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to lead worship and then yeah.

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That would be a little awkward.

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Kick the pastor off the

stage and started to preach.

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They'd be like, who is this guy?

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Yeah.

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But if you brought fire, maybe I brought

fire, like in the word preaching.

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I'm trying to be champion

trying to appeal to the younger.

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I was thinking like a literal flames dude.

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Okay.

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I mean, if you brought literal flames,

fire, you let me, preacher, this

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thing's going to go down in flames

Day of Pentecost Tongues of fire.

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Yeah.

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Hey, so, something that's in its genesis

was meant to come alongside the church

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in fact, that's, its behind its very

name are some organizations like Young

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Life or FCA or Bible State Fellowship,

or some of these others that we know

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of today as parachurch organizations.

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So, parachurch Para meaning

to come alongside of the, come

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alongside the church these are

organizations that I remember.

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For example, young Life.

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Growing up out here was huge.

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A bunch of people were involved in that.

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There was another one called K Life

that was very similar that was basically

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a midweek student ministry program

that wasn't put on by any church.

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So you had a bunch of people from

different kinds of churches and

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different backgrounds showing up

at this bible study basically.

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But there would be

young life retreats and.

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Young life presence on college

campuses and you'd have big

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conferences and everything else and

they were there as preaching the

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gospel, helping students meet Jesus.

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And there was a lot that

was really good about it.

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But by the same token I've seen,

there have been times where the

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parachurch has been conflated.

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With the church itself.

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So I remember having some conversations

even back in, in California with

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some people that would come to our

college ministry on Sunday nights.

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And then they were super heavily involved

in one of their campus ministries,

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which again, parachurch organization.

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And they would say, well, we do worship

there and there's preaching there.

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And so that's my church family and.

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While I appreciated that, their

commitment to that, and I think that

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they were receiving some good teaching.

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The parachurch is not the church, right?

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And so, as we think about it here,

maybe you're involved in a parachurch

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ministry, somewhere in our area.

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You're involved, you've got kids in

FCA or you've got kids doing another

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Bible study, or you've got kids that,

or maybe you're part of a Bible study

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fellowship, BSF or something like that.

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They're good, but they're

not the church itself.

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And so when our commitment to the

church is challenged by a parachurch,

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then I think it's important that we

remember, man, I gotta make sure that I'm

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prioritizing the church and getting my

main meal from the church, from the bride

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of Christ, and then supplementing that

with the time that I have left over from

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some of these other ministries out there.

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Okay.

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A couple follow ups.

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And this isn't the question that was

sent into us, but we're gonna, we're

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gonna riff on this just a tad bit.

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Why is it not a church If there's

Christians and doesn't Jesus say

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where two or three are gathered?

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There I am in the midst of them.

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Why is it not considered

church with the capital?

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See I've seen posts recently of people

saying, oh look, me and my guys are,

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we're gonna go out bow hunting in

the middle of the field and there's

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five of us and we're Christians.

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Therefore, this is a church gathering.

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One of us is gonna lead a Bible study.

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We'll sing a couple songs together.

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Why is that not considered?

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Church.

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Yeah.

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Because of what church is defined by.

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So where two or three are

gathered that we need to remember

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contextually, that's Matthew 18.

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That's in the context

of church discipline.

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So Jesus is saying there that where

you have two or three gathered,

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you have the authority of Christ

imbued in what's taking place there.

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So, you're able to go through the

process of discipline that's not about

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fellowship, that's about the authority of.

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Preserving the purity of the church and

fighting for the purity of the church.

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So for us to say where two or three

are gathered their Christ is, thus,

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that's the church is not what the

biblical concept of the church is.

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What we see the pattern of is we

read through the New Testament,

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is that churches are established,

elders are given to the church.

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And so there's pastors and there's elders.

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So your para parachurch organizations

are not led by pastors and elders.

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They're led by your volunteers, they're

led by a director, they're led by, whoever

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your peers, but they're not led by.

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By pastors.

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And so the New Testament model

shows that churches are to be

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shepherded by pastors, by elders.

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And then the other thing too is the

New Testament and we talked about this

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a little bit a couple weeks ago, has

given the church specifically a couple,

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primarily two of the ordinances that

we observe as the Protestant church at

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least, and that is baptism and communion.

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And so the church shepherded by

their pastors are the primary

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areas where baptism and communion

are both to be carried out.

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And that's why we went to

First Corinthians chapter 11,

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the context of that where.

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Get into communion is in the

context of the local church.

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And even when we look at church

history, as Protestants, a lot of

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times we take church history and we

throw it out with the baby of the

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ba, the throw out the baby of it.

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With the bathwater of Catholicism.

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We're like, well, tradition church

history is bad because Catholics appeal

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to that for why they follow the Pope.

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But I think there's something for

us to be able to say, okay, how has,

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how have things been done over the

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What's the pattern established there?

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And let's do our best to follow that.

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And so that's another thing that makes

the church as well as the biblical

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precepts of the one anothers things

like that are called to be lived out in

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the context of the local church, acts

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And that is what we understand as

the gathering of the local church.

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And that's why we can't say that.

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My Parachurch organization

is the same as my church.

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Yeah.

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And the parachurch works best when

it does do what its stated position

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is, which is to come alongside

the church and to support it with

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additional helpful ministries for sure.

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And all of them, if they do call

themselves a parachurch, they recognize

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that that's the whole, the name itself.

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As you said at the beginning,

tells you what its function is and

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it comes alongside the church to

support what the church is doing.

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So on that note, then we should be aware

that Para church is meant to help the

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church and if it's undermining your

connectivity to the church or if it's

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not supporting, it's overcoming that

that's a problem and we should wanna.

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Resolve that.

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On that note, then the person that sends

in this question here is asking a question

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about resources for personal bible study.

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What are some wise guidelines to go about

discerning what is helpful and what's not?

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And they bring up two resources that

lots of people have probably heard of.

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One of them is the Bible project and

the other one is got questions.org.

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So those are two big

ones that are out there.

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There's others.

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How do we discern the

good, the bad, the better?

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And are there any other guidelines that

you would suggest for someone who's.

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Looking into those things.

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Yeah, I would say number one,

Google is a dangerous place to be.

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If you're just gonna throw out a question

to Google, and that's not what this

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person said at all, but I know some of us

do that, that's exactly what they said.

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And so we need to have discernment.

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And that is important.

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And so as you I know a lot of

people go to got questions.

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I've heard a ton of people talking

about, Hey, I went to got questions

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and I checked, got questions.

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I've interacted with, got

questions a little bit.

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I haven't interacted with it

a ton to be able to know and

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give a blanket affirmation or

I find them generally helpful.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, , like I said, yeah, I haven't

heard anything concerning about that,

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but I don't know who's behind it.

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And that's part of the danger here

is anytime we're gonna look at.

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At an external study,

help to know who's behind.

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It's helpful 'cause that's going to give

us an information, some information of

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you talked about bias earlier, of the

slant or the bias that they're gonna have.

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Yeah.

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In interpreting a passage or a text.

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And so that's why it's great

to go to them, but I would

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listen with your ears attuned.

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The Bible project is great in giving

their flyovers of the books and things.

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I think they're creative.

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They're very artistic.

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I think there's some helpful things there.

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But just listen with your ears

sharp, with your ears attentive.

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And if some, they say something

that you've got questions about,

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no pun intended, then you can.

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Include in this list.

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Your pastors, these, what you're

doing right now, writing this question

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into us on the podcast to say, Hey

I've got a question about this.

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Shoot your question into us.

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We'd be happy to try to answer it for you.

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And it's not, we're not the

only source of truth out there.

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But we're happy to help and to

help you with discerning, okay.

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What is the answer here

with this question?

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That's really helpful advice and

I really can't improve upon it.

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I would just affirm it

to the furthest extent.

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There's a, there's so many good things

out there online, there's so many good

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things, but as many good things as

there are, there's probably twice as

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much maybe triple as much bad things.

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Things that we would say, oh, that's

not helpful, that's not useful,

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or that's a misunderstanding.

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Yeah.

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Or a misdiagnosis of the issue,

a misdiagnosis of the whatever.

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There's so many areas where we would say,

oh that's helpful, but not totally true.

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So one thing that I probably

have practical thing.

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Whatever research that you're doing

when you go to their websites, one, one

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clear takeaway I think that you could

use with a pretty strong degree of

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accuracy is if the website doesn't look.

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Professional.

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That's usually a good hint.

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Don't listen to this.

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Usually it's, if it's a guy named

Bob in his basement typing out

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blogs and it's a discernment blog.

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Yeah.

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Avoid that.

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Yeah, usually That's a good rule of thumb.

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Don't go to websites that look shoddy.

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They haven't been updated by,

the last page update's been

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2011 or something like that.

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That would be a really

helpful rule of thumb.

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But man, there's so much more out

there and I would say, find trusted

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resources that recommend other trusted

resources, that's usually the best play.

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So we've recommended you

resources, we, things that we like.

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And they usually will speak

about one another favorably.

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They do that on purpose in order to give

you a network of resources to utilize.

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So I would say let trusted resources

recommend other trusted resources.

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Yeah, but still be discerning.

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And I would be careful with

podcast and social media channels

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because anybody can do that.

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Anyone can do that.

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Anybody.

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Yeah.

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And so just because they've

got, my mom has a podcast, right?

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I'm just kidding.

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She doesn't have a podcast.

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They've got a pretty filter on and you

know, , yeah, just be careful with that.

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My dog has a podcast.

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Does he do?

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What's your dog's name?

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I don't even have a dog.

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Okay.

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I was just gonna say the

podcast me Pastor Rod's dog.

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Maybe the dog that was pooping

on your lawn last year, though.

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It is.

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They might have the podcast.

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I feel like.

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Could I cleaned up after him or her?

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It's my dog now.

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Yeah.

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So just be discerning on that.

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Yes.

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And that's, yeah.

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Everyone can pick up their phone and all

of a sudden be a theologian on Instagram.

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That's.

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That's not what we wanna be turned into.

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So That's true.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's turn to God's word.

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We're in Matthew 13, and

we're in Luke eight today.

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We've got some parallel topics

and situations here, but this is

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all about parables in Matthew 13.

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This is, if you think about parables in

the Bible, Matthew 13 should come to mind.

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This is one of the go-to chapters here.

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There's other chapters

that contain parables.

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Obviously we're gonna read some

of those, but this is the main.

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The largest section I think of teaching

parables that we find in the scriptures.

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And it's interesting because

these great crowds show up.

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Now, if great crowds were to show

up to our church on a Sunday,

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I wouldn't think to myself, let

me make what I'm about to say.

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Super hard to understand.

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And yet that's what Jesus does here.

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He says, I'm gonna teach in parables

so that those that have eyes to

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see, can't see, and those that

have ears to hear, can't hear.

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And so this is a fascinating situation.

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And there's the parable of the

sower, the parable, the weeds, the

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parable, the mustard and the leaven.

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The parable of the treasure and

the pearl, the parable of the net,

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and then bringing new and old out.

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All of these are.

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Taught in such a way as the

people won't be able to fully

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understand what Jesus is teaching.

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And the disciples even ask, why are

you teaching these things in parables?

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And Jesus says, so that those

who don't have eyes to see will

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be kept from understanding.

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So this is a, an act of judgment in

Matthew 13 of Jesus against a portion

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of the audience there by teaching

things in a way that they're gonna

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continue to remain in the state of.

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An inability to see and

an inability to hear.

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And and so he teaches these things about

the kingdom that are told in story form.

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And that's what a parable is.

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It's a story with a point or

it's a story with a moral.

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And he's doing that for those

that are able to understand it.

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But he's also doing it in a form

of judgment with the crowds that

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are gathered there, which really

highlights what we were talking about,

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I believe on one of our last podcasts.

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Jesus will distribute light he'll

distribute knowledge according to

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the receptivity of the audience.

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And so it is actually a mercy of

Jesus not to give them more light

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unless they acquire more judgment.

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And so even though it is

judgment, it is also a mercy.

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Yeah.

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But you'll also notice in this same

chapter and chapters following,

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Jesus is gonna explain to his

disciples, here's what this means

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and here's why this is important.

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So again, you see the principle of more.

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The right response means you

get more light from Jesus.

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Jesus gives you more understanding,

more more ability to comprehend

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what it is that he's saying.

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And I think that principle

still holds true today.

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Our obedience to Jesus commands

renders us able to receive

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more from Jesus and not less.

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Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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As we go through these parables, , a

lot of 'em are pretty familiar.

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The parable, the sower, you've

got the four different types.

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The first.

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Path there is the outright

rejection of the gospel.

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The second path is is the

one that receives it, and

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immediately there's signs of life.

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What struck me this time reading it is it

says it, it continues for a little while,

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and so this is somebody that could be.

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In the church for a period of time.

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This is somebody that could be

professing faith for years even,

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and then encounter opposition,

then encounter the persecution,

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then encounter the difficulty, and

then they fall away from Christ.

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Right?

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So this is not that, this is right

away, immediate, and I'd say the

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same thing about the third soil.

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The thorns, the ones that's

choked out by the lust of the

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world and the cares of the world.

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It may take a while for those

things to fully snuff out the

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professed faith of this individual.

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And it may be that this, these

are the people there in Matthew

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seven saying, Lord, Lord.

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We, we were following you.

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Yeah.

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That they go their whole life still

professing that they're following him

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and yet there's not the fruit there.

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And that's the differentiation.

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'cause the good soil is good soil

because of the fruit that it bears.

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And so the parable of the

sower is again, one of.

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Probably the most famous

parable that he's to told.

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And it's those four paths.

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There's only one that's really the good

soil there, the one genuine believer

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there, which tells us lots of things.

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And it would be such a good thing

for you to spend time studying this.

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You're just reading it right now.

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So don't feel like you have to pause

on every reverse to understand it all.

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You're just trying to get the sense of it.

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It would be worth studying, but

one, one thing that stands out here,

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verse 30 of Matthew 13, let both

grow together until the harvest.

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He's talking about the weeds

and the wheat and the weeds.

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Are those in the.

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In the parable.

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This is the second parable

or the next parable.

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The weeds are those that are

not Christians and the weed

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are course they're believers.

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He says, let them both grow

together until the harvest.

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The harvest being the end when

Jesus gathers all of his people

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together and brings them in.

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Here's what's fascinating.

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This tells us we should always expect that

there will be unbelievers in the church.

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Period.

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Yeah, no matter what you do, no matter

how strict your membership requirements

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are, if you meet with every single member

and say, tell me what the gospel is.

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Hey, I think they'll be convincing enough.

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Yeah.

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And Jesus is telling us, you should

always expect that there will be

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unbelievers in the church practically.

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Then what does this mean?

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I don't think it really

changes a whole lot.

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Your job is still the same, but you

should be aware there's gonna be

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unbelievers in your midst and it's

gonna be hard when you see, oh,

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someone that I loved and cared for.

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And I brought the meals.

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I can't believe they're no

longer walking with Christ.

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We ought to expect it.

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Not that we're cynics, but that we're

aware of what Jesus is saying and this

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is gonna cause us then to experience

more maybe frustration and sinful

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conflict because of that reality.

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Yeah.

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There's gonna be unbelievers in our

midst that need to be prepared for that.

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Yep.

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Well, as we jump over in Luke eight

we find a few more parables there.

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The parable of the sailer is

repeated in Luke chapter eight.

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He talks about the idea

of a lamp and a light.

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And something that is worth noting here

is he talks about the fact that everything

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that is concealed will be revealed.

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And that's a good sobering reminder for

us that nothing is done in secret, nothing

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is done that escapes the notice of God.

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It's all gonna be revealed on one

day, either at the Beamer seat

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or in the great White throne.

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And that is something that we need

to be, allow to be a sanctifying

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thought for us that, that we're never

escaping the notice of God when it

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comes to things both good and bad.

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And so this can be a sobering thing as

far as, hey, don't think that your sinning

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in secret is not gonna be found out.

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But then also it can be, Hey, when

you do things in secret Allah, what

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Jesus commended in Matthew chapter

five and six, your Heavenly Father

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who sees in secret will reward you.

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That, that those things will be

revealed on that day as well.

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, I think it's really cool at the beginning

of Luke eight that these ladies get

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special credit here, Mary Magdalene,

Joanna and Susanna they are commended as

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a key support role in Jesus' ministry.

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These were ladies that were helping

financially support the disciples

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and Jesus as they were going through

their their work in their ministry.

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Pretty cool that Luke

specifically calls them out here.

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It says here that.

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At the beginning of chapter eight, the

12 were with him and also some women.

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Does this mean that Jesus

traveled with the ladies?

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It appears that way.

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Yeah, I think so too.

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I think they were part of the band.

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I think so too.

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Yeah.

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That's huge.

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Yeah, I think that's really cool.

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It strikes me as funny.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Strange even it's counter my expectations.

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I'll just say that.

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That's fair.

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But I think that's what it says.

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I would agree.

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And that's incredible.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting 'cause Luke in

records here, the garrisons and

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this is something that we see

in, I think all of the synoptics.

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And in fact, yeah, we do Matthew chapter

eight, mark chapter five as well.

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And yet.

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Luke and Mark both record, only

one man coming to coming out demon

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possessed, and Matthew Records two.

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And I think the best explanation of

that is Matthew was an eyewitness.

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He was there, whereas Luke and

Mark, neither of them were.

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And so Luke and Mark May have

been recording Jesus's interaction

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with the one that he was talking.

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Where there could have been two versus

the other accounts are recording.

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Just that Matthew's account is recording.

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Hey, I was there and I saw two of them

there, but it's another reminder of

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Jesus's power over the spiritual world.

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We've seen his power, in fact,

even right before this power

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over nature calming the storm.

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Here we see his power over the spiritual

world that the demonic forces are at.

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His win and will they have to beg

permission of Jesus to go into these pigs.

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And so they're not able

to just do as they please.

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Jesus is the one that is in charge here.

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And then we see the power over

life and death at the end of Luke

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chapter eight with Jairus again

and the power over sickness.

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So really you see so much of the

deity of Christ in Luke chapter eight.

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You see that the power over nature,

the power of the spiritual world, the

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power over sickness with the woman,

with the discharge and the power

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of her life and death as he raises

Jairus's daughter from the dead.

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Luke chapter eight is a pretty bold.

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Pretty clear testimony as to who Jesus is.

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Yeah, those pigs, man.

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2000 of them, right?

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2000, yeah, 2000.

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So I just want to point out

to you it's at least one man.

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There's probably two and one only gets

the focus, but Jesus is willing to

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sacrifice 2000 pigs for two people.

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Let's just let that sit

on you for a second.

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I know we have a lot of

people that love animals.

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I do too.

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I like them a lot, contrary to the

things that we say about cats, but I

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just need you to see that God values.

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At least 2000 animals to two people.

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And that should tell you about how God

values people versus the animal kingdom.

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We should a good point.

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We should do good things to the animals.

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Protect him, care.

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Yes.

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All those things, but the

people are where it's at.

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Only people possess the image of God.

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And that's what makes us

distinctly valuable in God's sight.

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He values his image,

which is why he values us.

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You just need to see that.

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Please care for animals and your

animal and all animals in proportion

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to the way that God cares for them.

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One final thought here with the Garrison

Demon Acts there is they one or both of

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them want to go with Jesus, and Jesus

says, no, I want you to go and tell

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other people what you've seen and heard.

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And so his tune is changing a little bit.

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Now.

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He's been telling people, some people

at least, Hey don't tell people

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about what I've done for you, but

go and offer what you need to offer.

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This is in Gentile territory.

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And he says, go and tell others what

you've seen and what you've heard.

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And that's similar to

what we talked about.

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Yesterday at church on Sunday when

we talked about the fact that we as a

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church have been called to proclaim the

excellencies of him who called us out of

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darkness and into his marvelous light.

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So Jesus is telling the gne to go do that.

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You haven't been cleansed of a, of

demons i, I trust, but you've been

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cleansed of your sin and that's

even more remarkable than this.

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And you've been tasked

with the same thing.

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And that is to go and tell

others what God has done for you.

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And so what a good charge for us as

the church, for us as individuals.

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Let's not forget that's why we're

still here primarily is to go and

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tell others what God has done for us.

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So we can take that away from from

this and submit to the Lordship of

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Christ because he, again, he's God.

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And we see that so clearly

in Luke chapter eight.

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Let's pray.

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Lord, give us opportunities to testify

to who you are and to your deity and

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to what you've done in our lives.

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We pray for multiple opportunities.

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Even this week coming off of a

sermon talking about how we need to

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be a church that is, is doing that.

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I pray that you would give us chances

with our neighbors and that we would

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not just see the chances but take them.

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That we would not just see the

opportunity but that we would lean into

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the opportunity and be obedient to the.

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Prompting of the spirit, even

in our lives to go and do this.

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And so give us those opportunities.

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Help us to even be fruitful

in those conversations.

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Lord, we'd love to hear that people are

be being saved because of the gospel

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being shared by people in our church.

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And Lord, we, we know that you're able

to do that and you can, and you desire

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to see more and more people saved.

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So use us towards that end, we pray.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Keep your new Bibles tuning again

tomorrow for another edition

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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See you.

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Bye.

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Bernard: Well, thank you for

listening to another episode of

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the Daily Bible Podcast, folks!

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We're honored to have you join us.

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Bible Church in north Texas.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said

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