Farrier to Thoroughbred rockstars, Ada Gates tells us how she came to be named the Farrier Director of the California Horse Center on Flag Is Up Farms. And award-winning Tinia Creamer, founder of Heart of Phoenix Horse Adoption Center and the Appalachian Trainer Face Off, joins judge Pat Roberts to share the record breaking results at the 2022 event. Listen in... 

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• Guest: Ada Gates
• Guest: Pat Roberts
• Guest:  Tinia Creamer
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