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A lively debate unfolds as J.J., Matson, and Alec dissect the beloved classic comedy, Happy Gilmore. The trio delves into the film's cultural impact, exploring how it resonated with audiences since its release in 1996. J.J. passionately recounts his personal connection to the movie, narrating how it sparked his interest in golf and became a staple in his comedic repertoire. As they navigate through memorable scenes, the hosts engage in lighthearted banter, challenging each other's recollections and interpretations of the film's characters, notably the hilarious dynamic between Adam Sandler's Happy and Bob Barker's unexpected role as a fierce competitor. The episode captures the essence of nostalgia while highlighting the film's enduring humor, making it clear why Happy Gilmore remains a favorite for many. With a combination of personal anecdotes and critical analysis, the hosts celebrate the film's legacy, leaving listeners with a renewed appreciation for its comedic genius.
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Dude, I got receipts.
J.J.:I keep all these texts back.
Matson:You altered that.
J.J.:I did not.
J.J.:I always go last.
J.J.:I let you guys pick names on the list.
Matson:And his pants are on fire.
Alec:Let us know in the comments.
Alec:Who's the liar?
Alec:Liar, pants on fire.
J.J.:Welcome to the what's up ready podcast.
J.J.:We fashion ourselves cinematic judge and jury.
J.J.:My name is J.J.
J.J.:crowder.
J.J.:I'm here with my co hosts, Matson.
Matson:Heiner, Better red than Dead and Alec Burgess.
Alec:Let's get it.
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J.J.:Tell a lot of professional sporting people.
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Matson:Your local construction worker.
J.J.:Yeah, you tell those guys your local moving company too.
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J.J.:But with that, let's jump right in.
J.J.:We're back week four of comedies that some of us enjoy or all time otherwise known as all time comedy favorites.
J.J.:The final week closing it out with the classic we'll jump right in.
J.J.: ,: J.J.:It was written by Tim Hurlihy and Adam Sandler.
J.J.:It was directed by Dennis Dugan.
J.J.:Stars Adam Sandler, Christopher McDonald, Julie Bowen, Francis Bay, Carl Weathers, Alan Covert, Robert Smigel, Bob Barker, Richard Keel and Lee Trevino.
J.J.:It is about a man and after his grandmother's house is repossessed by the irs, a bad tempered hockey player takes his talents to golf, turn the big bucks and get his grandmother's house back.
Matson:Is he really a hockey player though?
Matson:If he can't skate, was he ever?
J.J.:I mean, it's a great question.
J.J.:It's what the core of the film, right?
J.J.:This is a me pick.
J.J.:I get to talk.
Matson:No, let's just let the people know.
J.J.:Here we go.
Matson:This is a me pick.
Matson:Is me pick jj.
Matson:I'm gonna be nice and let JJ have it.
Matson:This is me.
J.J.:It's not a hymn pick.
J.J.:Just so you know, the way this works is I asked for movies to put on.
Matson:He already puts his pick in the text.
J.J.:Do not.
J.J.:Dude, I got receipts.
J.J.:I keep all these texts.
Matson:I'm back.
Matson:You altered that shiz.
J.J.:I did not.
J.J.:I always go last.
J.J.:I let you guys pick.
J.J.:My name's on the list and his.
Matson:Pants are on fire.
Alec:Let us know in the comments.
Alec:Who's the liar?
Alec:Liar, pants on fire.
J.J.:I know how to solve this problem.
J.J.:At the time when I sent over this list at, Matson was salty about other picks and he wanted to Piss me off.
J.J.:So he picked off two movies that would piss me off.
J.J.:That's why this was my pick.
Matson:It's all fake information.
Matson:Alec, I'm a little disappointed.
Matson:When I started rhyming, I thought you were going to continue my rhyme, like in the scene of Happy Gilmore, but, you know.
Alec:Yeah, I don't.
Alec:I don't have the ability to rhyme ever.
J.J.:Alex.
J.J.:Alex.
Matson:Whatever.
Matson:JJ tell us how you were 32 when you saw this movie and why you like, ouch.
J.J.:I'm gonna kick this dude in the dick trying to see.
Matson:Isn't it true that's how J.J.
Matson:started?
J.J.:Oh, well.
Matson:Was this all you?
Matson:All young pups, you were just a twinkle in your mom's eye.
J.J.:I was gonna say I was 15 and you were, like, five, so you can eat a dick.
Matson:I was five.
J.J.:I know, 15.
J.J.:Which makes this one of the more formidable movies of my life, because I was a young, impressionable teenager when this movie came out, and I laughed my ass off for an hour and 30 minutes straight.
J.J.:And I still continue to laugh my ass off every time I watch this movie.
J.J.:I've watched this movie.
J.J.:This is one of those movies, Madsen, that if I knew the real number, you'd be like, how the have you done that?
J.J.:Because my cousin Rocky and I, this is.
J.J.:This movie's the reason we started to play golf in the first place ever.
J.J.:And we still.
J.J.:Like, he plays golf a lot more than I do these days.
J.J.:But, like, yeah, I played a lot of golf.
J.J.:And I started only because of this movie and hilarious movie.
J.J.:Like, people say to me, like, what's one of your favorite funny movies?
J.J.:This is at or near the top every single time.
J.J.:Because I laugh at every single part of this movie.
J.J.:Like, it is one of my favorites.
J.J.:It turned me on Adam Sandler.
J.J.:The problem with Adam Sandler for me, though, is I started getting into, like, his comedy.
J.J.:Like, he's got some comedy CDs, like.
J.J.:And they're weird as.
J.J.:Like, some of this shit's hilarious, some of it.
Matson:What, the Hanukkah?
Matson:Yeah, yeah, all that.
J.J.:Great.
J.J.:And the other one that's really funny is, like, the Long.
J.J.:There's one called the Longest P.
J.J.:That shit's hilarious.
J.J.:Never listen to that.
J.J.:Yeah, should listen to that.
Matson:It's been a long disturbing since I've listened to that.
J.J.:Yeah, so when he first came out, like, with.
J.J.:With, you know, this one, and Billy Madison was a little weird when he got away with it because it was funny and it was off the wall and it was different, and, you know, we've talked a lot about him and his.
J.J.:His like transition and what he's doing now as far as like he's done a lot of different things.
J.J.:But I go back to this movie and to me this is.
J.J.:This is top Adam Sandler best Adam Sandler movie.
J.J.:So when we talked about all time comedies this had to be on the list for me.
Matson:No questions asked for me.
Matson:Dude.
Matson:I it's top three easy if not like my favorite comedy of all time.
Matson:It's.
Matson:It's dang hilarious.
Matson:I try to remember when I first saw this.
Matson:I.
Matson:I've seen this movie enough times.
Matson:Not even close to the whatever psycho number would be for you or probably Alec.
Matson:But this movie is if we talk about.
Matson:I'm like JJ where if you all listen to us enough JJ forgets actor names and quotes all the time.
Matson:I also not to the extent of JJ.
Matson:JJ's got a talent for that.
Alec:It's especially throwing shade after.
Matson:But it's also true though.
Matson:Like very true.
Matson:But this movie like we talk about movie quotes.
Matson:If I was to.
Matson:If there was some craft I could track my life quoting maybe this is the movie of all movies for me that is quoted the most 100 like without a doubt.
Matson:And man it's still just gosh, it's just so funny.
Matson:There's so many things, so many things I could pick.
Matson:So what the question I want to ask you Jay before we get to Alec in his talking about it.
Matson:If you had to pick what is the funniest moment in this movie for you?
J.J.:Oh God, that is so hard.
J.J.:Probably the Bob Barker fight.
J.J.:Like that that fight scene to me is like hilarious.
J.J.:The price is wrong like and then he's walking away.
J.J.:Now you're done.
Matson:I can't believe they got him to do that.
J.J.:Oh dude, that's.
J.J.:It's great like that scene.
J.J.:I I don't know man.
J.J.:The whole another one that gets me every time that is so not my normal type of comedy is like the ice skating rink with him and and the what's her face like I love that too.
J.J.:Like the whole talk about your all time backfires like or the row is like what friends listen to freaking to endless love in the dark and like just the weird ass like that scene makes me laugh.
J.J.:I could go on and on but I think if I'm picking it's such a hard But I think that one or the the other one that's right there with the Bob Barker is the padding cages scene takes that one hurt a little bit but I'm all right.
Matson:I just like the end of that.
Matson:When the kid finally.
Matson:Does he see in the background, he just gets Molly whopped.
J.J.:So, yeah, there's.
J.J.:Yeah, love that shit.
Matson:I bet.
Matson:The Bob Parker thing, when you.
Matson:Did you see this in theaters, Jay?
J.J.:Oh, yeah.
Matson:It probably blew your mind when he did that because he was at like.
Matson:I mean, he was like the.
J.J.:Oh, yeah.
J.J.:Everybody knew Prices, right, Dude.
J.J.:Like, they knew Bob Barker.
Matson:I mean, for daytime television game show, like, the Prices right is still awesome.
Matson:But it was amazing.
Matson:I mean, I tried to stay home from school to watch that.
J.J.:Yeah, Prices, right?
J.J.:It was awesome.
J.J.:Playing some Plinko and Spin the wheel.
Matson:I'm saying, like, you being like 15, you seem to be like, you.
Matson:Like they got Bob Parker to do that.
Matson:Like, he just said, like, oh, yeah, we.
J.J.:And he boxed the.
J.J.:Out of that.
J.J.:He's jabbing his ass and like, oh, dude, it's so good.
J.J.:And then the tackle scene and they roll down the hill.
J.J.:He headbutts him.
J.J.:Then all of a sudden, he reaches up and snatches his throat.
J.J.:Like, it's so good.
J.J.:Comedic gold, dude.
J.J.:Like, it just.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:This old man just whooping the out of Happy Gilmore.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:Love it.
Matson:All right, Alec.
Alec:It's the first time I've seen it all the way through.
J.J.:Shut the Up.
Matson:Not even.
Matson:Wow.
Alec:I've seen it.
Matson:Oh, my God.
Alec:Parts and pieces.
Alec:So I'd seen the whole movie, but this is the first time I sat through and actually watched it.
Matson:Wow.
Alec:I was three when this came out.
Alec:And by the time I was getting into, like, comedies with Adam Sandler and stuff, it was grown ups.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:And then I went back and I think I watched Billy Madison first, and I didn't really like it so much, but this was one that, you know, we kind of talked last week about movies that popped up on TV when I was still around.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:So this is one that was always on and so I catch it when.
Matson:I caught it always on tv.
Alec:But I never have actually sat through and watched it start to finish until today.
J.J.:Good for you, dude.
J.J.:That's wild.
J.J.:It was.
Alec:I loved it.
J.J.:Oh.
Alec:Like, I, you know, didn't.
Alec:Didn't really have, like, the highest of expectations going in because it's one of those that even though, like, you guys both like it, it's not something that's really gets talked about a whole ton.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:It gets lumped into Adam Sandler and.
J.J.:Oh, he did this.
J.J.:He did this.
Alec:Oh, Happy Gilmore.
J.J.:This.
Alec:But it doesn't necessarily, because it happened so long ago, really be the first line oh my gosh.
Alec:You gotta watch this.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:And so my expectations were all, this is going to be like, you know, Adam Sandler just starting to figure stuff out.
Alec:But holy, I was cackling the entire time.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:And on top of that, it doesn't fall into the comedic trap of, you know, sacrificing the story for the joke.
Alec:Like, it still has a really good story where if you took the joke out of it, this would be a feel good 90s movie.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:Yeah.
Alec:And so, yeah, I loved it.
Alec:I was sitting there giggling the entire time.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:I'm glad you loved it.
J.J.:I.
J.J.:I never know with you sometimes.
J.J.:And so I'm always like, well, and I love that you mentioned Billy Madison because that's the one that put Adam Sandler on the map.
J.J.:Right.
J.J.:Like, it came out and everybody loved it.
J.J.:And it's funny, don't get me wrong.
J.J.:Like, it's another one that I quote quite a bit, like, to today, junior.
J.J.:Or like, you know, like, there's a lot of Billy Madison quotes.
J.J.:But I think, and I saw Billy Madison in the theaters, which is what drove me to see Happy Gilmore.
J.J.:But I think I am not afraid to say that I think Adam, the Happy Gilmore is Adam Sandler's best movie.
J.J.:Like, I agree front to back, there are very few comedies that I can watch and there's not a, There's a even Ben Stiller in this is great.
J.J.:Because the right amount of Ben Stiller.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:And what is it with Ben Stiller and handlebar mustaches?
J.J.:Like, I just can't.
J.J.:Like, but like that moment to me, like, this was also one of those moments where it's like Ben Stiller to me was still funny because he wasn't Ben Stiller at this point.
J.J.:He was just this guy.
J.J.:And so that moment when he turned it, he said, I'll, you know, I can help you do a warm glass or shut the hell up.
J.J.:Like, wait, what?
J.J.:You will go to sleep or I will put you to sleep.
J.J.:And then crafts got extended by four hours today.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:Oh, your fingers hurt.
J.J.:Well, now your back's gonna hurt because you just pulled landscaping duty.
J.J.:Like it's east and it's just enough Ben Stiller for me to be okay with him.
J.J.:But yeah, like, there is not a piece of this movie that I don't just thoroughly enjoy.
J.J.:Like, I laugh.
J.J.:I, I don't.
J.J.:There's a lot of movies and when I've watched them a few times, like I want to, I have parts, I'm like, hit that 10 second button a couple times.
J.J.:And it skips past.
J.J.:I rewind this movie.
J.J.:Like it.
J.J.:I hit the 10 second back of it.
J.J.:I gotta watch that joke again.
J.J.:Like when he's.
J.J.:He pulls the cans out of the garbage and he's hockey sticking them with chubs.
J.J.:And he hits his hand.
J.J.:That's so dumb.
J.J.:But it's so great.
J.J.:Oh, it's sturdy, made out of wood.
J.J.:Crunch.
J.J.:And he's got the I love you symbol for half the movie.
J.J.:Like, I just can't even.
J.J.:The movie is hilarious.
J.J.:And front to back, like, by far Adam Sandler's best movie.
J.J.:Just pure comedic genius.
J.J.:The whole way through this time around.
Matson:Watching the guy that I really appreciated was two people.
Matson:I'll talk about the lesser known one who's the Kevin Nalyon.
Matson:Like Gary Potter, his tour companion at the beginning.
Matson:The one that talks about the energy of the ball.
Matson:His stuff.
Matson:Dude, this time around, he got to be.
Matson:If you're on Patreon, you'll hear me talk about a lot, a lot about this.
Matson:But when he's talking about the energy, the ball is, like, happy.
Matson:The ball wants to go home.
Matson:The bags are packed at the airport.
Matson:Just.
Matson:Just send him home.
Matson:Like, wants to go home.
Matson:Send him home.
Matson:And then he walks.
Matson:He's like, let's go home.
Matson:There ball.
Matson:He tries to hit and he's like.
Matson:You just see him get mad because he, like, it takes him like, what, three hits to do that.
Matson:And then like later on, like, when he gets mad at one of the tournaments because Shooter McGavin's got the.
Matson:The jackass guy, he's like, go home, ball.
J.J.:I love the beginning of that when he comes in and he's going off on.
J.J.:It's like.
J.J.:It's like a circle and he's just going off and off.
J.J.:And then he gets done.
J.J.:And Adam Saylor's like, psycho.
J.J.:And then he swings and misses and loses his.
J.J.:And then that guy Kevin Neal is like, psycho.
J.J.:That's cyclical.
J.J.:Comedy in this movie is great.
J.J.:Like the callbacks to each other's jokes.
Matson:So I love the Gary Potter character, but the dude that, like, this movie would not be the same.
Matson:Christopher McDonald in this movie.
J.J.:Oh, yeah.
Matson:Awesome.
Matson:Like, he was.
Matson:He plays.
Matson:Yeah, we have like the Ben Stiller Villa, but it's like a bit character.
Matson:A bit character.
Matson:But Christopher McDonald just kills it because he's like a different type of humor and he's trying to be more serious.
Matson:But you need someone like him to be that anchor.
Matson:I can't imagine him like, he just, like.
Matson:I just really appreciated him this time, because I've always, when I was growing up watching this on TV and I was, I always gravitated toward Adam Sandler like everybody does, but this time around I was like, damn, he killed that.
Matson:Like.
Matson:And it worked in the perfect way.
Matson:And I just, I was really impressed.
J.J.:Yeah, he's great.
J.J.:I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
J.J.:For breakfast.
J.J.:I.
J.J.:I think that's one of the things that like, for me with this movie is like those back and forth moments, like the callbacks to certain things, like the whole psycho thing.
J.J.:And then like the keep coming back.
J.J.:Like the mista mista lady, like when she jumps on the car the first time.
J.J.:Get me out of here.
J.J.:And he reaches through the weird sunroof or the window and dumps all the food on the.
J.J.:Here, eat that.
J.J.:And then like try.
J.J.:He's like smacking the air conditioner.
J.J.:Hey, you remember that Mr.
J.J.:Mr.
J.J.:Lady.
J.J.:I think I just killed her.
J.J.:Like, there's just these little bit running gags that are just intermingled in the story and then.
J.J.:But they're just short and they're just enough to make you remember, oh, this is funny.
J.J.:And these people are whackadoo, man.
J.J.:And then the other piece that gets me with this that I think is just pure raw genius that you don't see in very many movies that I can think of is the background.
J.J.:So you have a scene.
J.J.:So the one I think of the most with this is like when at the end of his first run on tour and he's been running everywhere and he's in there, the PR ladies in with the head of the, the head guy.
J.J.:And he's like pointing at the TV because he's yelling, you sucking piece of.
J.J.:Like just going off on the ball.
J.J.:Suck my balls, ball.
J.J.:Or whatever it is.
J.J.:And then like all you hear is they're having this full on conversation and in the background you just hear and you can just hear it just a little bit.
J.J.:And then like at certain moments you'll suck my ass, ball.
J.J.:And then like just these things are shouted out.
J.J.:And it happens a couple of times where there's a scene that's pretty serious and it's pretty impactful to the plot and there's this weird background noise going on that if you listen to that, it's hilarious.
J.J.:And so like the little things that you can catch to your point, Matson, where you're noticing McDonald's performance in this, like that catch you.
J.J.:There's things in this movie that every time I watch it, I'm like, That's such subtle genius.
J.J.:Like, for me, another one that gets me every time is the caddy.
J.J.:The guy that's in all of Adam Sandler's movies that you wouldn't recognize unless he shaves the beard off.
J.J.:But he's in this movie and he's the caddy and he's like, you see him doing things like washing his underwear in the ball washer and then he's like taking a bath in the pond.
Matson:Like how no, best one is when he won, steals the quarter and then the next time he has a cracker that he just eats.
Matson:I love it.
J.J.:Seriously, like, how genius is that though?
J.J.:Like, he takes this dude off the street, like this homeless dude off the street trying to wash windows.
J.J.:Gives him a way to make money.
J.J.:And you get to see like not unbelievable things that are happening to this guy.
J.J.:Like, nah, man, it's just because you don't have one shoe on.
J.J.:Oh, yeah.
J.J.:I love the subtle because there's so much in your face comedy with this.
J.J.:But it's the subtle comedy that I find the best.
J.J.:And all of it's funny to me.
J.J.:But that's the best part is that subtle, dry, quick hit humor.
J.J.:Absolutely love it.
J.J.:Absolutely.
J.J.:Some of the best ever.
Alec:It's also, like, we talked last week a little bit about dodgeball having a cultural effect.
Alec:So I don't know if you guys have it out there, but here in Arizona we have quite a few top golfs.
J.J.:Mm.
Alec:Dude, every like 10 to 15 minutes over the loudspeaker, stop doing the Happy Gilmore.
Alec:Because you get people who.
J.J.:Oh yeah.
Alec:Drive range and the first thing they do is they're trying out the Happy Gilbert.
J.J.:I do it every time I go to the traffic range except for topgolf, because they do get mad because somebody tried to do that and fell into the net.
Alec:Yeah.
Matson:Can you even do that stuff now with your back?
J.J.:I can swing.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:I mean, I don't.
J.J.:I haven't done it and since it was.
J.J.:Got bad before this previous surgery.
J.J.:So it's probably been a year, year and a half since I've swung a golf club.
J.J.:So I don't know anymore.
J.J.:But I used to play through some pain to play golf.
J.J.:I used to play a ton of golf.
J.J.:Like when I was selling cars.
J.J.:I played a lot of golf.
J.J.:Like probably every other day.
J.J.:Played some golf in some way, shape.
Matson:Or form, but time consuming hobby.
J.J.:I love it.
J.J.:That is some of the.
J.J.:It's so nice.
J.J.:Like, I would rather go spend four hours playing golf than doing a lot of things.
J.J.:Like if you got friends to go with.
J.J.:Like, I don't want to go by myself.
J.J.:Like that sucks.
J.J.:But like my brother in law and I used to go.
Matson:And then would you pick it over card game, tournament?
J.J.:I would.
Matson:Oh, wow.
Matson:Tells me a lot.
Matson:Okay.
J.J.:Because I also like the physical aspect of it too because like, it's not like it's a physical sport, obviously, but I mean, it's not.
J.J.:It's something that anybody could play as long as you have some level.
Matson:I love the driving range or like chip and putt because to me it just takes.
Matson:Playing 18 holes is way too long.
Matson:But man, a good chip and putt or driving range session.
Matson:Because I grew up golfing with my dad.
Matson:Like I used to.
Matson:I used to par threes and hit the range and do all that a lot I liked.
Matson:But then other sports took precedence.
Matson:But I like those aspects of it quite a bit.
Matson:It's just the other things that take a long time and I prefer to watch football or do other things.
Matson:But golf's fun.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:We used to go on Saturdays.
J.J.:My cousin Rocky and I used to watch this movie all the time.
J.J.:That got us into golf.
J.J.:Like we would go on Saturdays and we'd have our little radio.
J.J.:We'd listen to college football while we were playing golf.
J.J.:And then as I got older, I was like, there's a few sports in life.
J.J.:Like I've always played sport.
J.J.:Basketball, baseball, football.
J.J.:Like I played all those physical sports.
J.J.:There's a couple of sports that I, as an adult, I really love.
J.J.:And the golf, bowling.
J.J.:If.
J.J.:If I can play a sport and drink alcohol or have some Merry Wayne, Mary Jane or have, you know, some other recreational activity on top of my recreational activity, that's my kind of sport.
J.J.:If I can be out of shape and kind of fat and still play the.
J.J.:That's my kind of sport as an adult.
J.J.:So I really got into, like I said, as an adult when I was selling cars, when I was doing other things.
J.J.:Like golf for me was.
J.J.:And there's a social aspect that I liked for golf too, because we'd get a nice foursome going and we'd drive down and we'd swap carts and.
J.J.:And hang out, like, so it gave me a chance to like hang out.
J.J.:And we'd have some really wholesome.
J.J.:Okay, not wholesome, that's the wrong word.
J.J.:But some really good conversations between friends.
J.J.:And one of my great memories, they used to.
J.J.:I don't know if you've ever done it, Manson.
J.J.:But they sometimes golf courses.
J.J.:One golf course up here will do a Night tournament every year.
J.J.:So you get glow in the.
J.J.:The glow in the dark balls, and then they hang like, glow sticks from the flags at every hole.
J.J.:And you only play nine holes, but it's fun as.
J.J.:And I went with my brother in law, one of my brothers in law, my father in law.
J.J.:And so, like, one of the most meaningful conversations I've ever had with my father in law took place on a golf cart, driving around in the middle of the night, hoping we didn't run into an electrical fucking box.
J.J.:That was because you couldn't see shit.
J.J.:But, yeah, it was a great time.
J.J.:So I think that's one of the aspects that I learned to love about it is I'm not a good golfer, but it's a good way to pass the time.
J.J.:And if you have the right group that you're with, I'm okay with the time frame.
Matson:Yeah.
Matson:Two last things I wanted to say about the movie, at least what's coming to mind is last weekend we talked about dodgeball and having two iconic announcers.
Matson:What I liked about this movie is they used real golf announcers.
Matson:Like, that I thought was genius because there was so much satire going on.
Matson:And they wanted to make this believable enough that this hockey underdog could be a golfer.
Matson:I really like the serious nature of them talking about something that was so funny, but still.
Matson:Like, I was like, I'm watching the Golf Channel right now.
Matson:Like, this is so on brand.
Matson:I really appreciated that.
Matson:And then the other thing that I love every time I see this movie is just the first time you see him hit the ball.
Matson:The sound that they decided when he just launches that and the camera angle just.
Matson:I'm like, he hit that, like, 500 miles an hour.
Matson:Like, it looked like in the way when it hits, like, next to the green or the.
Matson:I'm like, it looked like he hit that thing like a par 900 or something.
Matson:I'm like, dude, park, Park.
Matson:They were like, well, I got a whole one on a par four.
Matson:I'm like, dude, that was like a par 12.
Matson:The way he hit that thing.
Matson:Like, what are we talking about?
J.J.:Well, I love that they use it no matter what shot he's taking too.
J.J.:Like.
J.J.:Like, there's the one in the final match where they're like six feet from the green.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:And he still steps into it and swings forward.
Matson:Yeah.
Matson:No, I told Taylor, like, if he swung like that, I'm like, that thing.
Matson:Whether he's hitting it hard or not, that thing is gone off his pitching.
Matson:Like, that's gone yeah, I've got a.
J.J.:Club that I is.
J.J.:It's my favorite club in my bag that we call the cheddar wedge.
J.J.:It's like a 60 degree wedge or a 54 degree wedge, I don't remember.
J.J.:But it's like it's almost flat.
J.J.:Like if I lay it on the ground like it, it lays like so it just gets under the ball.
J.J.:It's not meant to go any kind.
Matson:Of touch the ball it, dude.
J.J.:Well that's the thing.
J.J.:If I swing like I've played that club and it's like a 90 yard at best club.
J.J.:And I mean I gotta swing out of my shoes to get it to go 70 to 90 yards and I gotta hit.
J.J.:Like I said, I gotta hit the out of with it to get it to go that far.
J.J.:I'm usually swinging it when I'm 20, 30 yards out at most.
J.J.:So.
J.J.:But if I swing till like and I'm a big dude and I could put some power behind the club.
J.J.:So when I swing, even if I connect like juicy perfect swing, it goes 150ft in the air because of how flat it is.
J.J.:Like when he swings that, he's got like three clubs.
J.J.:He doesn't have a cheddar wedge in there.
J.J.:Dude.
J.J.:Like this dude's got like a pitching wedge of two drivers and a putter.
J.J.:What the is he swinging from three feet from the green?
J.J.:Somebody's closer.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:If you're playing the hole next door, like but they still use the same rocket ship sound.
J.J.:Like the exploding golf ball sound.
J.J.:I love that part too.
J.J.:That and then Lee Trevino that just keeps popping up throughout the movies.
J.J.:Grizzly Adams did have a beard where he like shakes his head when he flings or breaks the club.
Matson:I want to go back to 15 year old JJ.
Matson:Yeah, the, the PR chick.
Matson:Did you have a crush on her?
J.J.:Julie Bowen.
Matson:Yeah.
Matson:Julie Bowen.
J.J.:Dude, I still have a crush on Julie Bowen.
J.J.:Like I watched what's the TV show she's in?
J.J.:Family something fam.
J.J.:Modern Family.
Matson:Yeah.
J.J.:Not a huge fan of the show.
J.J.:Like it's, it's okay.
J.J.:But I watched it because Julie Bowen's in it.
J.J.:And then they're doing Happy Gilmore too.
J.J.:Like they're in the process of doing it.
J.J.:And I was like when I heard that.
J.J.:But then they said Julie Bowen's coming back.
J.J.:And I'm like, okay, I'm in.
Matson:Yeah, she's back.
Matson:Christopher McDonald, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller.
J.J.:Like, well, the way it kind of got triggered to see if it was popular and I think it was an actual PR stunt to see if there was some interest in.
J.J.:It was Happy Gilmore or, like, Adam Sandler, like, did.
J.J.:Like, there was a video that they put on X or whatever of him doing the Happy Gilmore swing.
J.J.:And then Christopher McDonald tweeted, like, retweeted it, and then put something as Shooter McGavin, like, oh, yeah.
J.J.:And then it was this, like, back and forth a little bit.
J.J.:And then, like, weeks.
J.J.:A couple weeks later, they're like, yeah, we're gonna do Happy Gilmore, too.
J.J.:So, yeah, they're.
Matson:I am worried that it's gonna be terrible.
J.J.:Sure.
Matson:Like, most things are many years later that don't capture the magic again.
Matson:I mean, I probably try to save you from yourself a little bit.
Matson:J.J.
Matson:that.
Matson:I don't think it'll.
Matson:So I have that nostalgia.
Matson:I just don't know.
Matson:I just.
Matson:That's a long time since.
Matson:It's gonna be, like, almost 20 years, basically.
J.J.:Almost 30.
J.J.:Oh, 36, dude.
J.J.:Like, yeah, almost 30.
J.J.:In fact, it'll be.
J.J.:Because it's coming out next year, so it'll be 29 years.
J.J.:So I.
J.J.:Yeah, tell me about it.
J.J.:Old pricks.
J.J.:I was 15 when that came out.
Matson:It's gonna be one of those movies that I'm not gonna.
Matson:As we talked about when our last couple episodes.
Matson:I'm not.
Matson:I'm probably not gonna go see in theaters, but I will watch it when it comes.
J.J.:I don't think it's coming out in theaters.
J.J.:It's.
J.J.:I think it's gonna be a Netflix drop Netflix.
Matson:Okay.
J.J.:And maybe they'll do, like, some release in theaters.
Matson:Release.
Matson:Yeah.
J.J.:I'm not gonna go see it in theaters, most likely, because I.
J.J.:I don't go see much in theaters these days, but I will watch it.
J.J.:And I'm gonna have the lowest of low expectations.
J.J.:And part of that is.
J.J.:And I will get a little Phil.
J.J.:Difficult here.
J.J.:But the one problem that I run into a lot with comedians in general, and you see this.
J.J.:I mean, there's a lot of examples of this.
J.J.:And comedians are tough because when they're young and they're new on the scene, like Adam Sandler with Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore, they're not afraid to do because they have nothing to lose.
J.J.:Right.
J.J.:So they go all out.
J.J.:You can watch that with almost any Jim Carrey, like, go back and watch almost any major comedian, especially the shock comedians, the ones that are, like, out there a little bit and do some crazy shit when they're young and first on the scene, they have absolutely nothing to lose.
J.J.:So they'll just do whatever.
Matson:Let me, as you're.
Matson:I'm agreeing with that, let me add one because I've, I think I've talked about this.
Matson:The one thing I want to add to what you're going to say is while they're young and starting their career, because they're poor and they, they're around like the normal people and like where the humor actually come from, I've just found the richer comedian gets, the less funny I feel like they become because they become out of touch with the reality most of the time.
Matson:That's where like a Dave Chappelle was like the asterisks because he's still been funny, but everyone else, I feel like it was just like diminishing returns.
Matson:Anyways, keep going.
J.J.:But to your point, though, Dave Chappelle too, like, if you've watched his modern, he's still shocking.
J.J.:But this is my point.
J.J.:You get two problems with comedians.
J.J.:And one is they either become afraid to lose what they have, which I think they're.
J.J.:I don't think Adam Sandler's that in that camp because he still does some outrageous in some of his movies.
J.J.:But I think there are some comedians that are like, I can't do that because then I'll get.
J.J.:I won't get as much views, whatever.
J.J.:Then you have the others that these comedians mature, they're very young, they're immature, they're not afraid to do things and they'll do things that are funny to young, immature, stupid people.
J.J.:Right.
J.J.:Because all of us are a little dumb when we're kids.
J.J.:But then as they get older, the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, they start to mature and the comedy changes.
J.J.:And this happened with Adam Sandler.
J.J.:Like, when I look at Adam Sandler's movies as they progressed, you can watch his maturity level change.
J.J.:So you have.
J.J.:The first handful of movies were like this one, like nothing was off limits.
J.J.:Stories were really good regardless, but it was a little different.
J.J.:But then you start getting into things like Big Daddy, where there has to be a level of maturity for you to really get into the story and understand, like where that comes from.
J.J.:And a lot of the comedy is based on adult humor.
J.J.:Then you get into grownups and that's just full on and like, go with it.
J.J.:Like all of those movies, the older you get.
J.J.:Well, the problem is, is you start.
J.J.:As your level of comedy matures, your audience diminishes because the adult comedy is a very different comedy.
J.J.:You're going to lose your kids because they're not going to understand a lot of that.
J.J.:Comedy, they might laugh because their parents are laughing, but everybody laughs at Hubby Gilmore.
J.J.:Right?
J.J.:So it's one of those things.
J.J.:Now I'm with you.
J.J.:Like I think there are a level of commit comedic that they get out of touch because they're living in this very different world than reality.
J.J.:I always point to like Jon Stewart in that case, like.
J.J.:But I think again, and I say that too about Dave Chappelle, like his comedy matured quite a bit.
J.J.:He'll still not afraid to go there.
J.J.:But he does it in a very political way.
J.J.:Not trying to make a point but like trying to actually show you that the politics and the things that we're all offended by is really stupid.
J.J.:You can still laugh at but like it's.
J.J.:To me it's interesting to watch that maturity level.
J.J.:But I think no matter what you do as a comedian, when you hit that higher level of mature comedy, you lose a certain aspect of your audience that's going to find shit really, really funny no matter what you do.
J.J.:Like those early films.
J.J.:So I think that that whole evolution of comedy throughout a comedian's career, you also get most of them they end up doing like we've talked about some drama stuff.
J.J.:Adam Sandler again, you go back if you ever watched any of his dramatic roles.
J.J.:Damn, he's good.
J.J.:Like Spanglish and there's another one that I can't think that was had to do with the Twin Towers.
Matson:There's a basketball and he was in recently I really liked.
J.J.:Dude was the one where he was the.
J.J.:The he.
J.J.:God, he was like the.
J.J.:You talking about the one where he did the pawn shop thing or whatever?
Matson:Not that, that one too.
Matson:But no.
J.J.:Oh, he's a basketball agent.
J.J.:Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Matson:I like that movie.
J.J.:Yeah, he's got some great dramatic chops too.
J.J.:Like even funny people, you wouldn't think that's a non funny movie.
J.J.:But it's not really a funny movie.
J.J.:It's a pretty heavy movie.
J.J.:Why can I not think.
J.J.:Anyway, I'll think of the name of the movie.
J.J.:It's one of Casey's favorites.
J.J.:But yeah, so I think it's.
J.J.:Anyway, the evolution of comedians is always very interesting to me and Adam Sandler is no different.
J.J.:But I say all that to say that I will watch Adam say or Happy Gilmore too with a grain of salt and hope that my low expectations makes it funnier than it probably will be.
Matson:I want it to be good.
Matson:I just say because everything that they've done like this it I'm trying To think what has worked out that's been so far removed from the beginning, that's actually been remotely like, where I.
Matson:It's been so long since you talked about.
Matson:What do you consider, like Bill and Ted 3.
Matson:JJ like, did it.
Matson:Is it even.
Matson:Because that was a movie that was similar to it been so long.
J.J.:Yeah, I think that.
J.J.:And to your point, we've talked about this too.
J.J.:I think things like that rely on the nostalgia effect because, look, I laughed my ass off at Bill and Ted 3.
J.J.:I think it's Face the Music is funny.
J.J.:I think it stands alone and is pretty funny.
J.J.:Is one of the more, in my opinion, successful attempts at coming back 30 years later and making a movie, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the first one.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:Excellent Adventure is one of the smartest comedies ever made, in my opinion.
J.J.:Like, I just.
Matson:What I have a hard time with is, like, as we talk about Hollywood in the same vein, like, just because you can make.
Matson:It's all about money now and bringing something back that they know will get people watch.
Matson:Like, sometimes it's like, let's just leave it.
Matson:Like, it was good, but this is a movie that's never meant to have like a sequel.
Matson:It wasn't.
Matson:I just.
Matson:That's right.
Matson:Like, just because we can doesn't mean we should.
Matson:But that's where Hollywood's at.
Matson:And like, to me, this is just like, is it cool that it's coming out?
Matson:Sure.
Matson:Am I going to watch it?
Matson:Probably.
Matson:But I could do without it at the same time.
Matson:Like, it.
Matson:It's fine.
Matson:It could just be what it was.
Matson:And that's great.
J.J.:Absolutely.
J.J.:I would be perfect.
J.J.:In fact, I'd probably be more happy if they didn't make it because this is one of those movies that I can go back to and re watch and I don't need a sequel.
J.J.:I.
J.J.:I think there are aspects, like, if there are certain films, like series that it's worked for, like, I think right off the top of my head, like, Rocky, like Rocky 5 was terrible, let's just be honest.
J.J.:Like, Rocky 5 was one of the worst movies ever made.
J.J.:But if you erase that and then you watch Rocky Balboa, which was the next one that was in his line.
J.J.:Right.
J.J.:That one was actually a pretty good movie.
Matson:But didn't.
Matson:What I'm getting at is didn't they make the Rocky movies knowing they were probably going to make another, like, right away or they didn't know that is what we're saying.
J.J.:So Rocky 5, after it bombed and was just Terrible that he was done.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:And then as he got older, like, he got back into writing.
Matson:Oh, sorry.
Matson:Talking about what.
Matson:The timing.
Matson:I'm thinking.
Matson:I'm forgetting.
Matson:Yeah.
J.J.:For him, it was like 20.
J.J.:Oh, my God.
J.J.:It was a long time later that he made Rocky Balboa.
J.J.:And I thought that was really good.
J.J.:I thought it actually continued the story and made a really good point.
J.J.:And, like.
J.J.:But I'm with you.
J.J.:Like, I think everything after that, and I like the.
J.J.:I think they have.
J.J.:They can go too far, but I think there have been successful.
J.J.:I don't.
J.J.:I don't.
J.J.:I can't think of a comedy where it's worked.
Matson:I just think, like, the Rocky movies, they had already made multiple ones, so for them to do another where it continued, like, this one just feels like they're pulling this out of thin air.
Matson:But again, it could work.
Matson:It could be fine.
Matson: at's the new happy Gilmore in: Matson:Like, where is that?
Matson:And like, we talked about there's reasons why comedy is not what it is anymore.
Matson:If you listen to us a couple weeks ago.
Matson:And I think that's what I'm getting at.
Matson:I just miss where's the courage to do new instead of do something that worked 30 years ago, but do we need it now, 30 years later?
Matson:I don't know.
J.J.:Yeah, I.
J.J.:I think especially in comedy, that's.
J.J.:It's a double level of cowardice, because nobody wants to lose money, especially in the environment that we live in right now.
J.J.:Like, if it's not going to make money, they're not making it.
J.J.:Yeah.
J.J.:And.
J.J.:And.
J.J.:Or it's going straight to streaming, which is why this one, because there's probably no confidence that this is going to be.
J.J.:That this would be a blockbuster.
J.J.:Part two, like.
J.J.:And so it's an easy fix to put it on Netflix, because all they need to do is have people, one or, you know, a handful of people sign up for a new subscription in order to watch it, and it's successful for them.
J.J.:Right.
J.J.:But I also think, you know, in the level of offending and, you know, very soft people that we live in the world of today, where everybody's offended by looking at their own reflection in the mirror half the time.
J.J.:Like, it's hard to make comedies because it's like this.
Matson:I think this movie could be really funny if they think about.
Matson: If they lean into, what,: Matson:Like, what the world is now.
Matson:There's so much you could make fun of.
Matson:And what they put in the golf course around there, the people, the type of people, what they are wearing, what they were saying.
Matson:And if you did that now, like, I could think, I could see that being really funny because, oh, my gosh, like, they went there, they did that.
Matson:But we already know, Jay, they're not going to do that.
Matson:You know they're not going to do that.
J.J.:Probably not.
J.J.:I would love to see, like, the reverse of what we see in Happy Gilmore, right, where he, he's, like, been for 20 years.
J.J.:He was the most popular golfer on the planet, and now he's too offensive.
J.J.:You know what I mean?
J.J.:Like, because everybody gets their feelings hurt over the little shit.
J.J.:So now he's too offensive.
J.J.:And so nobody likes him.
Matson:So unfortunately, it sounds like they're not going to do it.
Matson:So this is what Ben Stiller said just, like two days ago.
Matson:He's, he said on Travis Kelsey, the Kelsey Brothers podcast, the Players.
Matson:He said the movie itself picks up from an older guy who played golf a long time.
Matson:Some stuff in his, some stuff goes on in his life, and he's different, he's a bit of a mess.
Matson:And then we try to get his life cooking again.
Matson:So I guess you could say maybe the bit of a mess is what you're saying, but I think it's another.
Matson:I feel like it's gonna be another, like, underdog story and building him up where he's at again.
Matson:Because I do agree, like, what if he became, like, the new Shooter, in a sense?
J.J.:Yeah, like, yeah, that would be hilarious.
J.J.:Like, and then Shooter comes back and like, yeah, yeah.
Matson:It could be like in the Senior Tour or something like that.
Matson:I don't know.
Matson:Like, yeah, yeah.
Matson:Well, maybe we should go save Ben Stiller and call him up.
J.J.:Listen, telling you, if only they would.
J.J.:All right, let's rate this thing.
J.J.:Man, it's been a while since I've gone first.
J.J.:I don't know what the to do with myself.
J.J.:I'm giving this movie A5.
J.J.:This thing is perfect.
J.J.:I, I, as of all the movies that we've rated over the last five years, that's crazy to say.
J.J.:300 some odd ratings.
J.J.:And this to me, is the epitome, like, the closest to perfect as you can get.
J.J.:So it's this to me there.
J.J.:I will never not watch this movie and enjoy myself.
J.J.:And I think there's not a moment in it that I'm bored that I'm not even as many times I've Seen it.
J.J.:Like, I look forward to every single second of this movie every time I watch it.
J.J.:I can pick it up at any, any minute, watch any second of it, stop watching it, come back, watch it.
J.J.:I can watch the whole thing sitting through.
J.J.:Yeah, this is a five for me.
J.J.:I think it's probably the new benchmark of fives for me.
J.J.:And, yeah, definitely would watch it anytime, any place, no questions asked, as many times as anybody wants to watch it.
J.J.:Love this movie.
J.J.:It is hilarious.
J.J.:If you haven't seen it, we can't be friends until you go watch it.
J.J.:So I'm glad you actually watched it all the way through, Alec.
Alec:Hooray, we can be friends now.
Alec:Yeah, I've waited so long.
J.J.:Exactly.
J.J.:Especially the way you talk about me at the end of every episode these days, so.
J.J.:All right, Matson, your turn.
Matson:I'll be quick.
Matson:5.
J.J.:Yes.
J.J.:That's what I'm talking about.
J.J.:That was the shortest review we've ever had in five years.
J.J.:I like it.
Alec:I'll be the odd man out.
Alec:I'm giving it a four.
Alec:I think it was great.
Alec:I don't have the added nostalgia factor that you guys do to carry over.
Alec:And so there were parts where I was just a little bit lost or couldn't get into.
Alec:And that's just probably because movie was made 30 years ago at this point almost.
Alec:And it's changed, right?
Alec:The environment of everything has changed.
Alec:So I don't have the nostalgia to fall back on.
Alec:But doesn't change fact that it's a great watch and there's plenty in there to actually enjoy without having to need every second of it.
Alec:There's plenty in there.
Alec:So, yeah, four for me.
Alec:We'll watch it again, Alec.
Matson:You can count on me finding you in the parking lot, dude.
Alec:Let's go.
J.J.:Did I just tell you What a great performance.
J.J.:Like, freaking Lurch.
J.J.:Like, when he's, like, talking and he's like, happy Gilmore did that to not let you know not more than an hour ago.
J.J.:He's like, well, you can turn.
J.J.:Oh, my God.
J.J.:Already's chasing him at the end.
J.J.:Love it.
J.J.:That's Mr.
J.J.:It's Mr.
J.J.:Gilmore's jacket.
J.J.:Sorry.
J.J.:I love it.
J.J.:That and then, like, the line that I.
J.J.:Casey and I still use like a shooter.
J.J.:You wanna go down to Sizzler and get some crap?
J.J.:Like, we do that one all the time too.
J.J.:Red Lobster down the road.
J.J.:Love it.
J.J.:So many quotable things in this movie.
J.J.:All right, Alec, tell everyone.
J.J.:Find us.
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