Let’s be real—life can be a wild ride, and sometimes we all fumble through it like we just got off a roller coaster. Enter Lisa Brandt, our guest this week, who’s got a treasure trove of stories from her years in journalism, interviewing everyone from celebs to everyday folks. She’s seen it all, and guess what? Behind the glitz and glam, everyone’s just human, making mistakes and learning as they go. We dive into some heavy topics like anxiety, aging, and the inevitability of failure. Lisa talks about how embracing these uncertainties can be liberating rather than paralyzing. The conversation flows into how living intentionally and understanding who we want to be can totally change our approach to life. We also touch on the idea that failure is not the end; it’s just feedback. So grab your favorite drink, kick back, and join us as we explore the beautiful chaos of existence and how we can all be a little kinder to ourselves along the way.
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Guest Lisa Brandt:Like I believe, most of us have no frickin idea what we're doing. But we play a good game and we do our best and we fumble through.
But there are some people who don't get that and act like they're supposed to know everything.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Ever had that moment where you realize more of the Runway might be behind you than ahead? Suddenly the way you make decisions start to change?
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:You know, you stop asking what should I be doing with my career? And start asking who do I actually want to be in my life?
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Hi, I'm Kat. Our guest today has lived that shift from high pressure journalism and celebrity interviews to a deeply intentional way of living.
Leading, choosing kindness on purpose.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Hi, I'm Kevin. Lisa Brant is a journalist and author.
She's interviewed, you know, some of the most famous people in the world and discovered that behind the fame, we're all just humans making mistakes, learning as we go, and just trying to figure things out.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:She talks openly about anxiety, aging, failure, and how at some point you stop letting fear run the show. And she believes something we talk a.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Lot about at ignite that connection, curiosity and community might be the most powerful antidotes to the stress and isolation so many people are feeling right now. Today's conversation is about living intentionally, learning.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:From failure, embracing uncertainty, and remembering that you don't have to have it all figured out to live a meaningful life. Here's Lisa.
Guest Lisa Brandt:You know, I watched a TED talk years ago and it changed everything about how I thought about making decisions. And it was like, don't decide. I used to always write these pro and con list. You know, it's like pro, one side cut.
And there's nothing wrong with that. But the woman's concept, her idea was decide the person you want to be and whether or not this decision aligns with it.
And it turned my decision making on its head and it made things a lot easier.
Like, do I want to be a person who still gets up at 3:30 in the morning and is dead tired by 6:15 and doesn't see people and, and, you know, goes to bed early.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:And that sounds attractive. It sounds great.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, it sounds like the life, doesn't it? Of course, we know in radio that's where, that's where the money is, that's where the prestige is. And, and I'm not. I don't say I regret any of that.
But at a certain point, it was like, you know, I think it's time to make a change. And to tell you the truth, I didn't think a lot about what radio would do to my life. I was so ambitious and I wanted it so badly.
I never thought about develop life. I thought only about, I want this job, I want that job. I want to work at that station. I want to work with that program director.
I'd love to be part of that team. And then everything else, I'll just figure it out and I'll, you know, put little puzzle pieces in around all of that.
And at a certain point, I flipped it around and I went, wait a minute, the life's got to come first. You could say I'm a slow starter.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:So what turned it upside down? Your life sucked? Or, I mean, what, what, what was the moment where you went, no, it's gotta change now?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, I think there were a couple of things. One was a second divorce.
Another one was having a major surgery over Christmas one year, and it was still many years before I did anything, but, you know, having to schedule it over Christmas because nobody could. They just couldn't do without me for the rest of the time. So I had to spend my Christmas eating out of a blender.
And, you know, I mean, there are much worse things in the world, but there were just a lot of things that started to pile up that, that just showed me that I. I had things backwards and it was time to turn it around. And one of the things I wanted to be was an author and eventually a novelist. And I finally. I finally made that happen last year.
And I'm working on another one this year. I did three, actually. I put three last year. A series of three. Prolific. Wow.
It became more of who do I want to be than, you know, what does the man have open that I can jump into type of thing. And again, you know, I'm not judging that at all. It was a great career and a great life, but it was time for a change.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:I find it fascinating that the negative experiences in our life can turn around to be a positive contribution to our life. Isn't that interesting?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah, I don't really know. Part of it, I think, comes with getting older and realizing that more of the runways behind you than ahead.
At least that's the way it has been for me. You know, how much time do I want to spend either lamenting something I've done or going down the same path? You know, I Had my motorcycle.
I still have my motorcycle license, but I don't have a motorcycle anymore because I was, was starting to gray out when I was riding because I was so tired and I thought I'm either going to kill somebody else or myself. So I sold my bike and decided to be a passenger. And, you know, it wasn't an easy thing to do.
But they say when, when you're a motorcycle rider, you can have 40 years of one year experience if you just go back and forth and back and forth all the time. Or you can stretch yourself and go on trips to see things you've never been or whatever. Right.
So there's, there are some people who are perfectly content to have the 40 times one year over and over and over again.
And I realized that I was the kind of person who wanted to have the new experiences and, and ride the new terrain and, and do stuff that scares me and, you know, try something. Failure to me. You know, I almost feel like some people don't believe me because this is so not how a lot of people think.
But failure to me doesn't really affect me. It'. Okay, I tried that and it maybe didn't work.
I set up a little voiceover conglomerate for, for London and it really did not take off and I kind of closed it down. But it was like, all right, so maybe there are things I would do differently next time. Maybe that's not the, you know, the thing that I meant to do.
Whatever, we just move on, right?
Co-Host Kat Stewart:And there's learning in failure. We often talk about that with our students in classes.
You know, if you, if you give yourself the license to fail, then you give yourself the license to learn. Failure holds opportunities totally.
Guest Lisa Brandt:And when you look at people who make mistakes, like I made a pretty, pretty good one this week, I do newscasts for a couple of smaller radio stations. First thing in the morning. I record them, plug them in. It's just, it's fun and it's over in, you know, an hour and a half.
And it's a, it's a fun way to start my day. But I made a, I did do a big mistake this week.
And you know, I apologize to the people it affected and said, you know, should I send something to somebody higher up and follow my sword and tell them I did this or, or whatever.
But I find that the younger people are all like, you know, if they make a mistake, they expect to get yelled at or they, they're, they just take it so hard.
And maybe it is because I'm older and I made a Million mistakes, some big, some small, that I can relate to that, you know, it's not that I don't take it seriously, but it's like, oh well, I'm sure I'll make another one, you know, it's gonna happen.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:So I think grace comes with age. When we make mistakes like that, I think we handle it so much more easier and it can roll off our back.
I've had so many mistakes recently that too many to discuss here.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:My life is a mistake, it's o.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:But I can get through it so much faster. And I think that's age related, right?
Guest Lisa Brandt:And I think that the people who are easiest on other people who make mistakes are also easy on themselves. And the people who beat themselves up are the ones who are going to give you a hard time. And I think it's a lot to do with age experience.
And I also think there's a sense of like, I believe most of us have no frickin idea what we're doing. But we play a good game and we do our best and we fumble through.
But there are some people who don't get that and act like they're supposed to know everything and then if they let themselves down or become transparent, it's a big hairy deal.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Through your career you've interviewed a lot of famous people and exposed some silly stuff and that kind of thing. So I guess you've really discovered that the most famous people, the royalty and the media grew up all the time.
They're kind of fuck ups and we're all the same, right?
Guest Lisa Brandt:That's absolutely right.
And I watch some colleagues, you know, get shamed by famous people for things they said mistakenly or whatever and you know, like, it's like anything. Some get it, some don't, some are nice, some aren't. But you're right, they all, everybody makes a screw up, everybody messes things up well.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:And I think the way we approach our script, I think we develop a Persona or an ego that protects us. That is our, our outward face to the universe.
And when we make a mistake, then it affects our ego rather than when, I guess when we mature, we get older, we don't need that ego there to protect us as much. And celebrities certainly have to have that public facing Persona, don't they? And I love the title of your book, Celebrity Tantrums.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah, that was my first book. That was a lot of fun. I will, I'll give you an idea of how badly I wanted to write this book. I, I had a rescue dog as well as my original Dog.
And the rescue dog, I couldn't go anywhere near without him biting me. And if he wasn't biting me, he was barking. So I was doing mornings in Toronto, and I was either getting bit or barked at by this rescue dog all day.
And I didn't nap. I didn't nap the whole time. I wrote and I wrote every day because it was something wanted to do so badly. I walked around like a zombie.
I had bandages on my hands from this dog biting me. And. Yeah, and got it done. I just wanted it so bad.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Hey, Lisa, get rid of the dog. Yeah.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, the dog did go to a farm. And not a farm, but a farm, a real farm. And he ran with other dogs and was certainly taught how to behave.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:I'm curious. Was there one particular celebrity story that resonated for you that you just said, I have to do this?
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Yeah. Come on, give us some dirt. Come on.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, I'll tell you a good one and one that I kind of regret in a way.
The good one was Alec Baldwin throwing a tantrum because he was talking to, I believe, his daughter at the time and got so angry on a street in New York that he smashed the phone against a brick wall of a building and just lost it. And of course, there are all these paparazzi around and they're all taking pictures of him and everything, and he's just, was.
He was at his Alec Baldwinist, you know, just losing it, out of control.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Quite the reputation.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Yeah.
Guest Lisa Brandt:The other one, and I hope this isn't too gross, but Farrah Fawcett was at this swanky Hollywood party and she was leaving, and everybody saw her take a poop on the lawn.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:What?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, it turned out she died of anal cancer. Oh, no. So I felt like years and years later, I was like, oh, no. I mean, she had to. Wasn't her.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:But yeah. Okay. How did you dig up. How did you.
Guest Lisa Brandt:If I can't bring up poop, it's not me.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:How did you get poop stories? How did you dig up these stories anyway?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Oh, it was just all from. I sourced everything from, like, the New York Post.
To actually have one of the guys from the New York Post do a blurb for the COVID It was all stuff that was basically in the media, current and. And previous. You know, it's funny because now, I mean, people still buy the book, but half the people, more than half the people, are dead.
t's, you know, it came out in: Co-Host Kat Stewart:Well, there's got to be a part. There's got to be more.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, so. Okay, so let's talk about that.
So that was supposed to be an ongoing series, and the publisher, which is still very much a force in Canada, was two partners, and they split up. When I had my second book written and the COVID finished, they split up.
And the guy who took the company and bought out the other guy deleted all of the other guy's authors, and I was one of them. And so my fully finished cover ready book was just tossed in the trash. So that's. That's one of the reasons it didn't go any further. And they own it.
I don't even own it, so.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Oops, that hurts.
Guest Lisa Brandt:It did hurt. It really did hurt. But eventually I had to go, meh, I still want to write. I'm going to write.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:So now I want to go back with something. You said that you hit a point where you decided to reinvent yourself. You decided to.
I'm going to create a new version of me, the one that I want that doesn't not sleep or whatever. How do you do that?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, I think it's a lot of living intentionally. You know, Kevin, you knew me years and years ago, and I don't even recognize that person.
And I know a lot of people say that, and I'm sure it's true for most people, but the level of anxiety I had, the just the whole personality, I just. I don't even recognize. When I think back to some of the things I did, some of the ways I behaved, and it's just completely foreign.
So I think it's living intentionally, deciding to be a person who puts kindness first. Not that I wasn't kind, but intentional and. And making sure I get these things done.
So I'm not, you know, lying on my deathbed going, geez, I wish I'd written a novel or whatever. I assume that's how I'll sound.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:You were. You were. I mean, you were a wonderful person. But. But I know. I remember you really struggling with anxiety.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah. So a lot of anxiety. And, you know, I was basically a clone of my mother not to put my mother down. My mother had all sorts of things in her.
In her past and in her history, but at a certain point, and I. Again, I don't think this is, you know, makes me unique. I just had to stop and say, yeah, that's not the way I want to go.
That's not how I want to be. She was like that till a week before she died, when she was in Hospice. And she was out of. Out of pain. She was that person.
And it was just a good example for how I didn't want to be.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Now in this reinvention, the anxiety went away.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Oh, no. Oh, no. It's a matter of making friends with it. You know, I got into some therapy. I certainly didn't learn everything on my own.
And I used to think that the anxiety would go away, but it's more of a function of saying, oh, there you are again. All right, take a seat over there. I'm still gonna do what I. What I want to do. Anxiety.
You sit there and eat some, you know, Cheetos, and I'll carry on with my day.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:It's interesting when you talk about your mother, because I think many of us can relate to that, to being a clone of our parent until we sort of wake up and realize that we are not our parent. We are our own individual. And when you talk about living intentionally, what are the elements of living intentionally for you?
Guest Lisa Brandt:For me, they are making a choice for just about everything. How to respond in a crisis. Not losing your mind, but choos. Choosing a response.
I just don't lose my temper, you know, I mean, things still tick me off, of course, but I also discovered the stoics, and I'm certainly not a stoic, but I'm a stoic in training, you know, where you live by the virtues of. Of, you know, doing for others. And people wrongly think sometimes that it means being emotionless, but it doesn't at all.
It means feeling the emotion, but just not letting it ruin your life. Being on a more even keel and being intentional about what I do. You know, I took on a volunteer job. I love to do volunteer work, and.
And, you know, I do it in spurts. I do something and then don't or whatever.
And I took on this volunteer job, and they were always, you know, so grateful to see me and everything, but I didn't have much to do, so I quit. And, you know, to say that I quit a volunteer job where they were grateful to have me sounds like I'm kind of a shitty person, but I'm not.
It has to work for both of you. And I think I would have stayed doing that for the next, oh, maybe four to seven years in old times just because I felt obligated to.
I didn't leave anybody in the lurch. I didn't hurt anybody's feelings, but I just moved on.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:And that brings up purpose and passion. I think that is a big part of what's important in Living intentionally.
So if that volunteer job wasn't fulfilling you, your purpose and your passion, then moving on to something that is fulfilling will, you know, why waste your energy?
Guest Lisa Brandt:My greatest probably achievement. People usually say they're children. Well, I didn't have children, but I have a little sister from the Big Sister program, and she's 35 now.
We were matched when she was 9 and her kids are 9 and 12 and call me Grandma. And so I got to skip the whole parental thing and jump right to the grandparent thing. And I recommend it. I really do.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Diapers.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:One of the books that you wrote make the media want you. And in the description, it says, you know, examples of good and bad interviews and major mistakes to avoid.
You know, Kevin and I have been doing interviews for a while now.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Oh, yeah.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:We need some tips. What should we do and what should we avoid?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, you know, this was written mostly for PR people to understand how media people are influenced.
And, you know, I had a guy, and I tell it in the book, I had a guy show up to my talk show in Hamilton with a fully cooked turkey on all the sides thinking that I was going to put him on the air because he was bringing me a turkey. Now, that turkey smelled amazing.
But the no that I gave him to the interview idea was still a no, and I had to make him leave with his turkey inside because that. That certainly wasn't going to work. That's a. That's a pretty extreme example.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Okay, so no turkeys.
Guest Lisa Brandt:But, you know, bribing, just, you know, you used to get stuff sent to me all the time at Rogers in Toronto, and we'd have to, you know, say no because it's against company policy and all that kind of stuff.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:But.
Guest Lisa Brandt:But it's just being the kind of person that somebody wants you to. Wants to be in the room with you.
We've all met the highly cologne, handshaking, fast talking, you know, there's a little bit in the room and whatever I had. One of the things that.
That inspired that book was a woman calling me from a clothing store and asking me how I could fit her into my program so she could get some free publicity. And it's like, that's not how this works, you know? Yeah.
So, you know, so it was written to understand, for PR people to better understand, hopefully, what it is we're looking for and how it is we operate and that we're not sleaze balls who are gonna, you know, take an Hermes scarf and suddenly give you half an hour of our morning show for Some, you know, thing that isn't going to interest our listeners. So. And you're bringing, you know, Brian Linehan. Have you heard you, Kevin? Are you familiar with Brian?
Co-Host Kat Stewart:I remember the name.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:No.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah, City. Years ago, Steve was on City tv.
You know, he was the interviewer who would do the five minute question and then the, the person would say, how did you find that out? And he used to say to me, I worked with him in Toronto and he used to say, I never ask a question I don't know the answer to.
And yet Larry King, who was very successful, used to say, I don't do any research. So I don't know that there's, that there's just one way to do it. Curiosity, I think, is the, is the number one factor.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Well, and what you're bringing up too is a theme Kevin and I talk about all the time is authenticity.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Right.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:If I want to talk to you, it's not the schmooze that's going to work. It's usually connecting on ideas, it's connecting on philosophy, on connecting on helping other people, not just ourselves.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
And that's harder than it sounds, I think, and I think it's rarer when I remember giving a keynote speech one time to a, to a group and I had an agent at the time and anyway, that was another story in itself. And I thought we got an enthusiastic response and everything was fantastic.
And he, he walked over to me and he goes, there's not enough show biz, not enough razzmatazz and that. And he walked out all horrified. And it's like, well, I, I thought I connected on a, a real, you know, human level.
People were asking questions, people were nodding their heads, all sorts of stuff was going on. And I guess he wanted me to learn to play the kazoo or something. I'm not really sure.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:You gotta be bigger than life. Bigger than life. I had a program director in Vancouver that Kat and I both know that was all about that, you know, you sound too real. You gotta be.
Oh, no, you gotta be Hollywood. You gotta be bigger than life.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:This was the olden days.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Yeah, he got fired eventually and stuff, so it's okay.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:But it's interesting. Perspective has changed on that.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah. Oh, totally, absolutely.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:And the other thing I was gonna say something that we're constantly working with people about is the death of legacy media. I mean, that is changing. It has changed.
So a lot of the rules that we're talking about for working with the media, that's kind of in transition right now because the media is in such transition, right?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, that's right. And that's why I did an updated version of the book too, with focusing more on podcasting and social media. Right.
The radio stations that I do news for in the morning, there's three of them and they're, they're smaller community stations. They're in the My FM brand. And to me, they are doing it right. They completely connect with their audience.
I mean, news on that station could include like a PSA or whatever. Right? Because it's not the big eight. You know, seven people were killed, you know, man wielding a machete, all that kind of stuff.
I mean, if that happens, sure. But you know, it's mostly community stuff and saying the names of local people and connecting on that level.
And so you hear an ad from a store that you walk by every day and it's just smaller, smaller, smaller. And I think they're doing what's left of legacy radio really well. It's profitable, it's successful. It just seems to really connect with people again.
Back to that connection.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Community reflecting community. To connect. And connection is so important in this hyper connected world where it's, it's almost a false connection.
Guest Lisa Brandt:It seems to me. This may sound crazy.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Go for it.
Guest Lisa Brandt:What a shock. Like, I feel like people don't understand in a general sense that news is anomalies.
News isn't the good everyday stuff that people are supposed to do and the way people are supposed to behave. And I think people get scared by the news.
Like I'm thinking about a bus, you know, and, you know, something random happens on a bus, it's like, oh, now every time I'm on the bus I've got to be scared and put my earbuds in, not talk to anybody. And I think we're a lot kinder and nicer and warmer than we realize as a people.
I mean, if something happens on your street, somebody gets hurt, somebody's cat runs out or something, like everybody, everybody gathers together and they want to help. I don't know, we've lost that sense of community.
I look on my street right now, I know the woman across the road and the people on either side and a few people that live behind us and that's about it. It's just not like it used to be. You know, we don't have that community. So I don't know, my FM is trying to sort of bring that together.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:But it's up to us to choose it too. It's up to us to, to Break the mold. I was at the pool yesterday, and there was a beautiful woman with gorgeous hair.
And I said, oh, my gosh, you have gorgeous hair. And then we ended up having this fabulous conversation. But I didn't need to say anything. I could have sat there and not connected.
I think we need to value that as we move forward and things change.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Well, we might need to model it, I suppose, in a way, too. We notice with some of our younger students that we're still teaching that they are afraid to engage the phone as a phone in conversation. Yeah.
That to talk to people in real life is terrifying. You know, I text, I email, I do something where I've got control. I can edit. I'm not at risk.
And when we teach some media stuff to them, they're terrified at cold calls or, you know, I actually gotta call and talk to someone. Mm. I mean, that's the world we live in with newer generations now. And that disconnection is something that we're battling all the time.
I mean, one thing this podcast is about, and our company, I guess, to a great extent, is getting people to reconnect, trying to make the world a little better place in any way we can, kind of.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Yeah.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:And so we always ask our guests, what do you think we can do to turn this around, to reconnect people? The other thing going on, of course, is politically. It seems bullies are winning everything right now, that they're in control.
And this is our chance to fight back, to challenge a bully, to recognize community matters, to reach out and speak to someone. Got any advice for us as to. From your perspective? What can we gather together, those of us that don't think that way and do to help change the world?
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, I almost put out a post on threads today, and I stopped myself, because I am. I worked very hard to walk away from things I can't do anything about and just go on with my day and find things I can do something about.
For example, looking at what's happening in the U.S. you know, the rules have changed, and only one side seems to realize that, and the other side still wants to go with protocol and.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:And.
Guest Lisa Brandt:And politeness and everything else. And it's like, you know, I don't think you need to take up arms and storm the castle, but I think we need to understand that the rules.
The rules have changed. There are no rules anymore. International law doesn't exist. Alrighty, then let's. You know, let's figure something out.
As far as community goes, you know, that's one I. It's a tough one because I said to my husband, even this year, I said, I would really love to just have a crowd. Christmas open house.
I used to do that when I lived in Toronto. The neighbors would come, it was just fun. Everybody have a cookie and get to know everybody's name. It was no big deal.
You say from two to four and he was horrified. He's like, no, I don't want to do that and all this stuff and. But I think it's not that he doesn't like people, he loves people.
In fact, he's more social than I am. But I think it is the unpredictability of it. And unpredictability is how we used to live.
Your car broke down, you didn't call from your car, you walked to a farmhouse and hope somebody would call to help you. We're just so tethered to each other right now. And yet like you say, we don't communicate.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:That's a good point about risk. That's interesting.
It's interesting how you're interpreting risk that I hear you kind of saying that we've now become such a risk averse society people that we can't even live our lives almost right. It's that desire to control and not have any risk, which that's not what being human is about, is it?
Guest Lisa Brandt:No, and it's not what being human is about.
And I think if you look at a lot of the blustery, chest thumping blowhards specifically south of the border, they are so afraid and they're afraid of what they can't predict. And so that's why they build this little framework. And the truth is we can't predict it, we can't control any of it.
And the minute, the minute you embrace it, I tell you, my friends, the minute you embrace that, your lives will be so much better. Send me $10. No, but it's true. I think, you know, embracing the fact that, that so much is out of our control is a beautiful thing.
And it just, it's anxiety reducing, not, not creating.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:That's where the concept of meditation has really come in for me because that is my access to quiet, to peace, to an internal dialogue, reducing anxiety and to really sitting with what can I control, what can't I control? And I'm okay. It really does reduce that fight or flight reaction to things I can't have any control over.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Well, one thing, Kevin, that hasn't changed is my dark sense of humor.
Because when I worked at 680 NEWS in Toronto and it was, it could Be really stressful, especially if we had a lot of breaking news, because everything happened in real time. And people would ask me often, they'd say, how do you deal with the hours and the stress and the breaking news and all that kind of stuff?
And I'd say, Friday night after work, I sneak out and take one human life.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Yes. I remember that sense of humor in you. And I remember your ability to spoof and stuff like you just did. See, Lisa hasn't changed much in 40 years.
That's. That's the beautiful sight.
Guest Lisa Brandt:Not in the fundamental ways.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:I love it.
Guest Lisa Brandt:You always shut them up.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Anyway, I take from this that I think we should all go take a risk today. Take a risk? What are you gonna do at communicating with somebody you don't know? Take a risk at reaching out to a fellow human.
What if we all did that today, huh?
Co-Host Kat Stewart:I did it yesterday.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Yes, you did.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Your turn today.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Okay. I'll look for a beautiful woman with beautiful hair. And I'll say something and I'll get arrested, and then you get stuck. That works. Good.
Maybe that's a little. You gotta put things in context.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Say, nice shoes, Kevin. Whatever.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Okay. You know what really stayed with me from this conversation is how much freedom there is in realizing that failure isn't fatal. It's feedback.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Yes. And that anxiety doesn't have to disappear before you start living life. Your life. You can feel it and still choose your response.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:Lisa reminded us that most of us don't really know what we're doing. Nope. And that pretending we should, well, that only makes it harder.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:And that with age can come grace. Grace for ourselves. Grace for our mistakes and the courage to say, okay, what's next?
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:So if there's one takeaway from today, take the risk. Start the conversation. Try the thing that scares you.
Co-Host Kat Stewart:Thanks for being with us today. We are here to build a community and help you to reconnect to your breath, your body, and your truth so you can show up fully in your life.
Co-Host Kevin Ribble:So Visit us@ignitemyvoice.com and sign up for coaching with one of our talent developmenters. Feel the change and join our movement.
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