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Always the Outsider, with Alysia Silberg (Entrepreneurship, AI, Immigrant, Mindset)
Episode 44528th November 2023 • The Action Catalyst • Southwestern Family of Podcasts
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Alysia Silberg, leading Silicon Valley venture capitalist and CEO / General Partner of the investment firm Street Global, shares the story of making her way from Africa to Canada by way of Hollywood, why even a bullet couldn’t stop her, and chats about getting superpowers from a pair of pink roller skates, using AI to be big where you feel small, geeking out over DaVinci, and why being “unemployable” doesn’t make you…unemployable.

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Stephanie Maas:

Well, I'm super excited to be with you. So thank

Stephanie Maas:

you for sharing your time, I would actually love for you to

Stephanie Maas:

start with your background, because I think that sets a nice

Stephanie Maas:

foundation for where you are today, walk us through a little

Stephanie Maas:

bit of your background.

Alysia Silberg:

So it's a wild journey, and I'll do my absolute

Alysia Silberg:

best to share with your listeners, the stuff that I feel

Alysia Silberg:

is most important in terms of their own journeys. So my dad

Alysia Silberg:

was an immigrant from Eastern Europe, you know, back in the

Alysia Silberg:

day, so he was born in 1870. Sounds completely wild. And that

Alysia Silberg:

was a very different time in America. So they went on boats

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to South Africa, arrived in South Africa in 1929, you know,

Alysia Silberg:

these immigrants with just clothes on their backs. And he

Alysia Silberg:

was very fortunate, he had a passion, which was the arts, he

Alysia Silberg:

was a chemist by training. And he made his way to America, you

Alysia Silberg:

know, an incredibly difficult thing at the time. And he

Alysia Silberg:

trained under Max Factor, the makeup artist, and he became

Alysia Silberg:

somebody who worked on movie sets with the most famous

Alysia Silberg:

celebrities in the world. And I think part of my madcap

Alysia Silberg:

adventure inside of me comes from it comes from my dad's

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journey, he had to unfortunately go back to South Africa, even

Alysia Silberg:

though he was successful in America. And that started a

Alysia Silberg:

journey for all of us in the sense that during the pot, I

Alysia Silberg:

created what was the world's only pharmacy and costume hire

Alysia Silberg:

store. And I was born into this, as I say, wild environment. And

Alysia Silberg:

I grew up in that environment. And whilst it was fun, it was

Alysia Silberg:

also incredibly difficult, because there was always a

Alysia Silberg:

shortage of money growing up. So he was passionate about helping

Alysia Silberg:

other people read it in the book, as a chemist, because, you

Alysia Silberg:

know, apartheid, there was no doctors for the bulk of South

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Africa, give away medicines for free, he became this community

Alysia Silberg:

doctor. So for us, we kind of suffered the consequences,

Alysia Silberg:

because we were always short on money. And this whole, you know,

Alysia Silberg:

he died in during a car accident very unexpectedly. And then we

Alysia Silberg:

were going to lose the business because the business was

Alysia Silberg:

crippled in debt. So they were coming for the house, they were

Alysia Silberg:

coming for absolutely, everything we owned, I was

Alysia Silberg:

telling my brother was six years older than me, my mother was a

Alysia Silberg:

ballerina. So you know, that's the kind of skills she had. And

Alysia Silberg:

it was a fight for human survival. And we started just

Alysia Silberg:

like fighting for this business. We slept in the shop, which was

Alysia Silberg:

extremely dangerous. You know, like, there's a lot, a lot went

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wrong. And I slept under costume rules for a long time. And we

Alysia Silberg:

just worked 1820 hours a day for five years, we managed to save

Alysia Silberg:

the business a lot with load. That's what took me on my

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journey to Canada, because we wanted more my brother and I, we

Alysia Silberg:

were obsessed with getting to North America. And eventually I

Alysia Silberg:

made my way to North America. And today, I'm incredibly

Alysia Silberg:

fortunate. I get to invest in startups after being a founder,

Alysia Silberg:

I get to work with extraordinary people. And so I'm incredibly,

Alysia Silberg:

incredibly grateful to be in the US and to be, you know, building

Alysia Silberg:

startups and working with startups.

Stephanie Maas:

Okay, so South Africa and then Canada. Tell me

Stephanie Maas:

about that.

Alysia Silberg:

Sure. So we were poor. We had a very old car, we

Alysia Silberg:

would barely go but we had a call. And we lived in a very

Alysia Silberg:

dangerous neighborhood as well couldn't afford to leave. And

Alysia Silberg:

one night and a Saturday night we got attacked was very intense

Alysia Silberg:

attacking, and I got shot. My mother got beaten up, it was

Alysia Silberg:

harrowing, even like, even by a Hollywood movie standards. The

Alysia Silberg:

moment that happened, I decided I was always obsessed with

Alysia Silberg:

coming to America. From the day I was born. I think my dad

Alysia Silberg:

wanted that seat in my mind. I was like, I'm going no matter

Alysia Silberg:

what it takes, and my circumstances around me. People

Alysia Silberg:

refer to it as a dead end life. That was my life in South

Alysia Silberg:

Africa. And for many people, that's their lives. We got to

Alysia Silberg:

cap, I remember standing, bleeding, screaming my head or

Alysia Silberg:

screaming sight, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I'm going and you

Alysia Silberg:

have to help me leave. I made up my mind there. And then I was

Alysia Silberg:

going to get to North America no matter what. And my brother and

Alysia Silberg:

I came up with a very entrepreneurial venture, where

Alysia Silberg:

we would create costumes, you know, from our crazy costume

Alysia Silberg:

shop, or the burgeoning Hollywood film industry in

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Canada. Sounds crazy. But this is economics tax. So basically,

Alysia Silberg:

Hollywood, very expensive, create movies, New York, very

Alysia Silberg:

expensive to create movies. And so that at that time, they were

Alysia Silberg:

starting to do a lot more movies in Nova Scotia. And my brother

Alysia Silberg:

and I have been very good researchers. We figured this

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out. And we figured out that there was a trade treaty between

Alysia Silberg:

certain countries in Canada, and that you could apply towards

Alysia Silberg:

making this trade treaty. And you can get funding and you

Alysia Silberg:

could build a business. And so I was shipped to Canada to go

Alysia Silberg:

pitch this to the Canadian government. I was 15 at the

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time, and I'm telling them about this amazing, amazing, you know,

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venture that they would of course, want to participate.

Alysia Silberg:

They said yes, they were incredible. That was my first

Alysia Silberg:

taste of what it meant to be in North America. In terms of being

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an entrepreneur to see a well organized things are the

Alysia Silberg:

opportunities. And no one laughed at me when said I was

Alysia Silberg:

stupid, and what I experienced changed my life.

Stephanie Maas:

Okay, so you did that at 15?

Alysia Silberg:

15. And it was crazy. Like when I look back,

Alysia Silberg:

I'm like, Wow, a grown up mature version of me it was like, I

Alysia Silberg:

think it was adrenaline, as well as nothing to lose. I think that

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played a big role where your life is so bleak, that you're

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like, I really have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I

Alysia Silberg:

see homelessness in America. Yeah, I live in, in Venice in

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LA. And I see all those people. And I think about it every day.

Alysia Silberg:

And I'm like, I could be one of those people. I just happen to

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be lucky enough that I had a drive to say, okay, my

Alysia Silberg:

circumstances suck. And no one's going to come in to rescue us

Alysia Silberg:

like this. And I'm going to try and I'm not going to give up to

Alysia Silberg:

the state that drives me. I can never forget how close we came

Alysia Silberg:

to having absolutely nothing.

Stephanie Maas:

Tell me, I know you said you and your mom didn't

Stephanie Maas:

always get along. What were some of the things you garnered from

Stephanie Maas:

her?

Alysia Silberg:

My ability to never give up? She pushed me

Alysia Silberg:

extraordinarily hard. I think in some respects, it almost damaged

Alysia Silberg:

me. I had somebody who had a very tough life, and who kept

Alysia Silberg:

pushing me harder, because she knew how tough life had been.

Alysia Silberg:

And she wanted me to to have the best life possible. Even if she

Alysia Silberg:

had difficulty in helping me create that.

Stephanie Maas:

Has she been able to see your success?

Alysia Silberg:

No. But th at's okay. I hope she's proud of me.

Stephanie Maas:

I'm sure she is. Sure she is. Let's shift gears

Stephanie Maas:

ever so slightly and talk about technology? I just think there's

Stephanie Maas:

an aptitude for technology. Some people have it, some people

Stephanie Maas:

don't, I definitely don't have it. So that's very interesting

Stephanie Maas:

to me. So you're 15 years old? What technology did you have at

Stephanie Maas:

hand? How did you figure out that that's kind of part of your

Stephanie Maas:

thing.

Alysia Silberg:

Thank you for your honesty, in terms of your

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ability to use technology. I understand. It's ironic, but I'm

Alysia Silberg:

not good with technology. As funny as that may sound. I'm not

Alysia Silberg:

natural at this. And I think that's important. But at that

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time, the Internet was so so so basic, like it was really basic.

Alysia Silberg:

And when you asked about Canada, you got to picture these two

Alysia Silberg:

kids sitting in deepest, darkest Africa, where the tip of Africa,

Alysia Silberg:

were at an internet cafe. The internet was not like America,

Alysia Silberg:

we sitting there looking on the internet, and we want to go to

Alysia Silberg:

Canada. And we like, um, this place looks interesting. It's

Alysia Silberg:

got a cute little bug. I'm not kidding with you. Okay, like a

Alysia Silberg:

cute little sailing boat. It's in the pictures. And it looks

Alysia Silberg:

very sophisticated compared to where we coming from. And this

Alysia Silberg:

is Halifax, Nova Scotia. And that was our interaction with

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the internet, that it was like this raw thing that gave us the

Alysia Silberg:

ability to build all our dreams. And that was the relationship

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I've owned with technology from very early on, were at each

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turn, I could do a certain amount. And then it needed to do

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something needed to do the rest. And it was always the

Alysia Silberg:

technology, there was always something that could help me to

Alysia Silberg:

help myself get where I wanted to stay like people like us are

Alysia Silberg:

involved in AI. I'm like, it's pretty simple. I'm a human with

Alysia Silberg:

a problem. And I've found that the technology helps me solve it

Alysia Silberg:

like my accent. It's hard for Americans to understand my

Alysia Silberg:

accent. For me, it's very important for Americans to

Alysia Silberg:

understand me, I want to live here, I want to immerse myself

Alysia Silberg:

in the culture. But in order to do that, people have to

Alysia Silberg:

understand you. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get an AI coach,

Alysia Silberg:

I'm just going to practice and practice. I just started

Alysia Silberg:

applying it in every aspect of my life. And as I say, as a

Alysia Silberg:

woman, it started giving me leverage, and I would have never

Alysia Silberg:

had any other way. Because when I do things to almost make

Alysia Silberg:

myself small, it would help me make myself big. And so that

Alysia Silberg:

relationship, as I say was, again, survival allistic. But

Alysia Silberg:

technology showed up for me in a massive, massive way.

Stephanie Maas:

Fascinating. So the things you talked about was

Stephanie Maas:

early on, you were willing to take these risks, because what

Stephanie Maas:

did you have to lose? Now you have stuff to lose. How do you

Stephanie Maas:

still keep that unbelievable risk appetite that served you

Stephanie Maas:

incredibly well, but now you have something to lose. So talk

Stephanie Maas:

to me about that.

Alysia Silberg:

I think it comes down to our values. And I think

Alysia Silberg:

the thing I value most in the world is learning. I can't get

Alysia Silberg:

enough of learning. And I think that just drives me forward. I

Alysia Silberg:

feel like physically sick when I'm not learning. Like it's it

Alysia Silberg:

sounds insane. But it's that constant need to, to just keep

Alysia Silberg:

growing. And it's like I'm constantly investing in

Alysia Silberg:

startups. I'm constantly evolving and constantly creating

Alysia Silberg:

some stuff work, some stuff doesn't work, but you know, you

Alysia Silberg:

just keep on going. That's probably why I love AI so much

Alysia Silberg:

because it grows and it grows faster than me, which sounds

Alysia Silberg:

insane. But at the same time that keeps me on my toes. Like

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the times where I run into my own barriers in terms of like

Alysia Silberg:

engaging with people because I've had impostor syndrome, you

Alysia Silberg:

know, like it's stuck. There's realities of who we are. And in

Alysia Silberg:

a work with the AI, I have conversations with with GPT

Alysia Silberg:

around this and GP He loads faster than I do. And it adapts

Alysia Silberg:

whilst than I do. And then I'm like, wow, that's interesting. I

Alysia Silberg:

have to stop, I have to think about this. I have to come back

Alysia Silberg:

tomorrow, what I could see it didn't stop learning, it was

Alysia Silberg:

comfortable keeping on going, my mind couldn't go any farther

Alysia Silberg:

that day. And that's been very interesting, because that forces

Alysia Silberg:

my mind, in a positive way to keep on growing each time I get

Alysia Silberg:

on a call with a founder. And each time I get to learn

Alysia Silberg:

something new about what they're doing to solve a major problem

Alysia Silberg:

in the world. For me, there's very few things that give me

Alysia Silberg:

that kind of joy. It's a good way to be I think.

Stephanie Maas:

I think that's fantastic. So let me ask you

Stephanie Maas:

this. There's a ton of conversation right now around

Stephanie Maas:

this idea of growth mindset. And it got me thinking, do you think

Stephanie Maas:

the growth mindset is that nature or nurture?

Alysia Silberg:

Nurture. I took it upon myself to bold like a

Alysia Silberg:

rewards challenge for myself, I've lived and died by these

Alysia Silberg:

rewards challenges. So it's like mini habits, where I'll give

Alysia Silberg:

myself like a walker rarely once as a reward. And I'll be like,

Alysia Silberg:

I'm gonna break through on this thing. And for me, that was

Alysia Silberg:

like, I could see I was fixed in a lot of areas. And that I never

Alysia Silberg:

wanted to be, I knew that to get to America. To live the life, I

Alysia Silberg:

wanted to feel the sense of fulfillment and joy that I

Alysia Silberg:

sought so much, versus the pain and heartache. And as you say, a

Alysia Silberg:

survivor that was still within me, even if externally it may

Alysia Silberg:

not have looked so much like that. And as to do that I have

Alysia Silberg:

to change the wiring in my brain. Trust me, it was a really

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tough thing to do. But I think that was why it was very

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important for me to write the book because I could see how

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there was so much darkness that came with me so much pain, so

Alysia Silberg:

much heartache so much just like yuckiness still inside of me,

Alysia Silberg:

even though I was I had a lot of accomplishments. And to really

Alysia Silberg:

do that I had to take on a growth mindset. And I have to

Alysia Silberg:

say like, this is my life, like, this is what I'm going to do. I

Alysia Silberg:

went from I Can't to I Can, because there were a number of

Alysia Silberg:

times I wanted to get out. But I believe that I don't think a lot

Alysia Silberg:

of people who have been through difficulty, have that growth

Alysia Silberg:

mindset nurtured into them. But I do believe they cannot share

Alysia Silberg:

it into themselves.

Stephanie Maas:

I think one of the things that is going to be

Stephanie Maas:

so relatable to you, I mean, let's face it, most of us have

Stephanie Maas:

not grown up in some of the extreme situations that you have

Stephanie Maas:

been faced with. But despite that, we still struggle with the

Stephanie Maas:

same things that you mentioned, the I can't, the imposter syndrome...

Alysia Silberg:

I was carrying so much baggage, though, even if

Alysia Silberg:

I wasn't aware of it. And the idea that I put on paper, and I

Alysia Silberg:

highly encourage you and everyone listening, it's an

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incredible exercise to actually sit down. And writable I highly

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recommend anyone that thinks that they really got a gift and

Alysia Silberg:

they want to share it, I call it superpowers, you have that gift

Alysia Silberg:

yourself however long it takes just keep going, just keep

Alysia Silberg:

going. And as I say, it's worth it.

Stephanie Maas:

That's awesome. So I love your transition,

Stephanie Maas:

because the next thing I want to ask about was this superpower.

Stephanie Maas:

What is your superpower or powers?

Alysia Silberg:

Well, let me start by saying, I'd love to

Alysia Silberg:

know what your superpower is. Me. It started with a pair of

Alysia Silberg:

pink rode estates sounds insane. But I'm five years old. Everyone

Alysia Silberg:

around these got these rode estates, and I realized we can't

Alysia Silberg:

afford them. And I knew better to have off my parents was just

Alysia Silberg:

like, not something I'd ever do. Because I didn't want to make

Alysia Silberg:

them feel bad about themselves. And so that's how I figured out

Alysia Silberg:

the solution. But for me, I learned to fall in love with

Alysia Silberg:

selling like, it sounds crazy. But I learned to fall in love

Alysia Silberg:

with like bullying companies selling and literally of solving

Alysia Silberg:

someone's problem for them. Somebody has a problem. And I

Alysia Silberg:

can delight them with the solution. And the memories

Alysia Silberg:

people have of me being in the shop, and I could barely stand

Alysia Silberg:

over the counter. And I'd be stretching up and I'd be smiling

Alysia Silberg:

and I'd be selling and it was just it was like every time I

Alysia Silberg:

message someone on behalf one of my companies, and I'm like,

Alysia Silberg:

Please, we help them please, we don't you want to quit call and

Alysia Silberg:

say no. Like, that's all I see without it. So I think that

Alysia Silberg:

would be my one superpower. And I think the other one is maybe

Alysia Silberg:

pattern recognition. You know, being a survivor, I learned to

Alysia Silberg:

recognize patterns very early on, just in terms of survival.

Alysia Silberg:

And in terms of like, keeping safe. And I think it's helped me

Alysia Silberg:

a lot in terms of like, making investments and just learning to

Alysia Silberg:

see where the world is going, which are in and out just like a

Alysia Silberg:

joy to do that kind of thing. But I think pattern recognition

Alysia Silberg:

too. I think many people comes down to curiosity as well, where

Alysia Silberg:

you're like curious, hey, what's happening? And then like making

Alysia Silberg:

these fun predictions for yourself and practicing making

Alysia Silberg:

them until eventually they kind of just become like this like

Alysia Silberg:

game you play with yourself.

Stephanie Maas:

Very interesting. Hey, one of the

Stephanie Maas:

things you talk about is obviously the name of the book

Stephanie Maas:

Unemployable. You took a career aptitude test and it said you

Stephanie Maas:

are not employable. How old were you when you took that test?

Alysia Silberg:

I think I must have been 19 at the time, and it

Alysia Silberg:

had a profound effect on me.

Stephanie Maas:

Like why do you think that was so profound,

Stephanie Maas:

because 18 or 19, you already had some successes.

Alysia Silberg:

I think we have to start with, if you look back

Alysia Silberg:

on the circumstances, so we're blue collar, all intensive

Alysia Silberg:

purposes, if you look at our quality of life, not proper

Alysia Silberg:

writing, you know, they turned off the water regularly, they

Alysia Silberg:

turn off, you know, the power regularly like this was, this is

Alysia Silberg:

the way we learned wasn't food regularly. And so the idea that

Alysia Silberg:

I was able to join a fancy bank, in inverted commas fancy

Alysia Silberg:

sophisticated investment bank, was that to some extent,

Alysia Silberg:

especially in our culture, while I've made it, so I think it's

Alysia Silberg:

important for us, this is Jiu Jitsu. So the idea that being

Alysia Silberg:

Jewish going into banking was like, a prestigious thing. So

Alysia Silberg:

finally, I cleaned up well, for lack of a better term, you know,

Alysia Silberg:

like, I made my family proud. And we're finally moving into a

Alysia Silberg:

different class structure, I suppose. And the idea that, at

Alysia Silberg:

that last moment, I take this test, I've never failed a test

Alysia Silberg:

before I've been told my entire life, you've got to be the best,

Alysia Silberg:

no option, the best, and whatever cost to compensate the

Alysia Silberg:

best. I've been to expensive fancy Jewish school on a

Alysia Silberg:

scholarship. But the idea that I got told, we don't want you

Alysia Silberg:

here, you have no place. Yeah, you don't belong here. Once

Alysia Silberg:

again, you're an outsider, in your own community. So everyone

Alysia Silberg:

around me had, you know, been to these fancy schools being to

Alysia Silberg:

work in banks, it was a cultural thing, where that's what people

Alysia Silberg:

do. And the idea that I got told, you're an entrepreneur,

Alysia Silberg:

I'm thinking, Oh, no more, no entrepreneur never allowed, you

Alysia Silberg:

know, into the system. And your researcher, okay, you stating

Alysia Silberg:

the obvious these two things I can do. But I don't want to only

Alysia Silberg:

be able to do these things, I want to be able to hold my head

Alysia Silberg:

up high, I want to belong somewhere. And the idea that

Alysia Silberg:

I've bought the frame on my family, that was very painful.

Alysia Silberg:

The idea that once again, and being thrown out of the insider

Alysia Silberg:

club, always the outside, never the insider, it was ironic

Alysia Silberg:

because they were basically complimenting me. And they were

Alysia Silberg:

saying, well, you're very good at what you do. You have to

Alysia Silberg:

develop mastery at what you do, stick to what you're doing. But

Alysia Silberg:

it wasn't well received in that community. And that's why I

Alysia Silberg:

wanted to come to America. Because in this country, it's,

Alysia Silberg:

it's noble, to be a founder, it's noble, that if you fail,

Alysia Silberg:

you get up you try again, and I'm gonna judge you.

Stephanie Maas:

I do think when when we're doing it, right, as a

Stephanie Maas:

country, we allow you to make your own club. And that is

Stephanie Maas:

certainly what you have done.

Alysia Silberg:

It's a very special country. I think you

Alysia Silberg:

have to grow up elsewhere. And Americans are like, we're going

Alysia Silberg:

through so many problems. And I'm like, you have to grow up

Alysia Silberg:

elsewhere, to know how special it is. And it's very, very

Alysia Silberg:

special. And it's worth protecting because there's

Alysia Silberg:

nowhere else like, like, there's nowhere else that gives the kind

Alysia Silberg:

of opportunities like it's suffering, Americans are

Alysia Silberg:

different. Anything's possible. And the fact that you can be

Alysia Silberg:

building basically anything, and you always find a customer to

Alysia Silberg:

support you, you will always find an investor to support you,

Alysia Silberg:

you'll always find employees to be on your team. It's

Alysia Silberg:

incredible. If I could run for president and run for president

Alysia Silberg:

just because I want to protect the country.

Stephanie Maas:

Well, I think it would be an honor to have

Stephanie Maas:

someone of your character run for president. I understand

Stephanie Maas:

there are laws that prevent that. But that would be a breath

Stephanie Maas:

of fresh air. So since that's off the table, what is next for

Stephanie Maas:

you? What are your eyes set on next?

Alysia Silberg:

So I want to build a community around

Alysia Silberg:

unemployable of force for good at a time where as I say, I'm

Alysia Silberg:

very involved in AI, we've seen a lot of change in terms of the

Alysia Silberg:

economy. And we see a lot of, you know, tech layoffs. And so

Alysia Silberg:

for me, the idea that people see this as more than a book, but

Alysia Silberg:

more as a platform where they're like, Hey, I'm worried about

Alysia Silberg:

losing my job, or I lost my job, or I just want to build

Alysia Silberg:

something. And the idea that they see the lessons in the book

Alysia Silberg:

as an inspiration, and give, it gives them that sense of courage

Alysia Silberg:

to be like, Okay, I'm going to use this information. And I'm

Alysia Silberg:

going to start building because as we were talking, each person

Alysia Silberg:

has a superpower and use the power of internet. I keep saying

Alysia Silberg:

to people there 3 billion people online, you don't need 3 billion

Alysia Silberg:

customers with all you know, there's so many studies you need

Alysia Silberg:

1000, Boston was to build a very nice business for yourself, that

Alysia Silberg:

can sustain you in a very great manner. So the idea that people

Alysia Silberg:

say, Okay, I'm going to bold, I'm going to build a company for

Alysia Silberg:

myself. I think that inspires me beyond beyond measure. My

Alysia Silberg:

personal goal for myself is NSC 100,000 companies. And people

Alysia Silberg:

say to me, where do you want those companies founded? And I

Alysia Silberg:

have American 33 So Delaware based company sounds crazy, but

Alysia Silberg:

I'm very proud of the fact that people contribute to the US

Alysia Silberg:

economy pay tax and bite people in that I think it's great. And

Alysia Silberg:

so that's that's a big big goal for me is that I see that

Alysia Silberg:

succeed and you know, invest heavily in AI. I got a free AI

Alysia Silberg:

newsletter, which I hope people join subscribe to, they can ask

Alysia Silberg:

me questions. We've put a lot of work into it. I have a team or

Alysia Silberg:

and it's like tools, it's all kinds of things that I encourage

Alysia Silberg:

people to just start looking at. And people be like, Wow, that's

Alysia Silberg:

a bit scary. You know, I'm just starting out, I know nothing

Alysia Silberg:

about AI. And that's fine. Just start looking at it, if you're

Alysia Silberg:

interested in on, look, look at the images and be like, Wow,

Alysia Silberg:

that's AI generated on the cover of the book. These AI generated

Alysia Silberg:

images in the book are AI generated, we work very hard to

Alysia Silberg:

create those one of my founders. And so finding something you

Alysia Silberg:

interested in when it comes to the AI too, and just say, hey,

Alysia Silberg:

at least he's got some articles on those things. Then you read

Alysia Silberg:

about me message. me ask her a question. When me that's very

Alysia Silberg:

important, because I want people to be left behind the exciting

Alysia Silberg:

time to be living. So those are my priorities right now.

Stephanie Maas:

That's awesome. Okay, so I know you have a

Stephanie Maas:

thirst to learn. I would even say it is almost for you like

Stephanie Maas:

breathing. It just naturally brings you joy, which by the

Stephanie Maas:

way, I mean, of all the things to love. That's a good one. You

Stephanie Maas:

love it so much people will ask you if you're on drugs, that is

Stephanie Maas:

saying, Wow, that is fantastic. I mean, really? Okay. But what

Stephanie Maas:

are your guilty pleasures? What do you secretly love to learn

Stephanie Maas:

about that people might be surprised or didn't know, or

Stephanie Maas:

whatever the case may be.

Alysia Silberg:

I love learning about art, I think it's because

Alysia Silberg:

there's so much to understand that you don't you create your

Alysia Silberg:

own interpretation. But at the same time, there's so many

Alysia Silberg:

layers to it, like I recently watched, I'm obsessed with the

Alysia Silberg:

Renaissance. We're living through modern day Renaissance.

Alysia Silberg:

And I was just in Italy, and just celebrate the book coming

Alysia Silberg:

out. I learnt about some pieces by Leonardo da Vinci. And they

Alysia Silberg:

had as a result of the technology, there were so many

Alysia Silberg:

layers on this piece that no one was aware of. But the

Alysia Silberg:

technologies enabled us to see it. And they were like five

Alysia Silberg:

artworks on one artwork. And it was just so incredible, to be

Alysia Silberg:

able to wow, like, I wonder what he was thinking about in that

Alysia Silberg:

version. I wonder what he was thinking about an effort and it

Alysia Silberg:

was just so fascinating. And so for me, the entire house is

Alysia Silberg:

covered in OT and OT and audiobooks. I can never buy

Alysia Silberg:

enough audiobooks. So I think that's an again, the privilege

Alysia Silberg:

of living in the US. In South Africa. We had no art galleries,

Alysia Silberg:

museums, art galleries, everything was stolen. And the

Alysia Silberg:

idea that I can get at a home for free to an art gallery, a

Alysia Silberg:

different art gallery every Sunday. Wow. That's my guilty

Alysia Silberg:

pleasure. And I never get tired of it.

Stephanie Maas:

Your humility is so sincere. And it comes through

Stephanie Maas:

so much in your just gratitude, which Oh, it's so endearing.

Stephanie Maas:

Really appreciate your willingness to give of your time.

Alysia Silberg:

I think you've been incredibly generous with

Alysia Silberg:

your time and so thoughtful with your questions. I really

Alysia Silberg:

appreciate it. If people are looking for the book, they can

Alysia Silberg:

find it on Amazon, I think that's the easiest place to find

Alysia Silberg:

it. And one of the feedback is don't try to ferret like I'm

Alysia Silberg:

obsessed with radical open mindedness and allowed learning.

Alysia Silberg:

So if this stuff I can take away from the book, right in your

Alysia Silberg:

review, like be honest, and message me reach out to me, and

Alysia Silberg:

I want to engage with people. So whatever your feedback is, just

Alysia Silberg:

reach out to me, let me know.

Stephanie Maas:

But if it's mean, I'm going to respond, you

Stephanie Maas:

don't need to be mean people.

Alysia Silberg:

Thank you, again, incredibly, incredibly

Alysia Silberg:

appreciative for this beautiful, beautiful conversation.

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