Alysia Silberg, leading Silicon Valley venture capitalist and CEO / General Partner of the investment firm Street Global, shares the story of making her way from Africa to Canada by way of Hollywood, why even a bullet couldn’t stop her, and chats about getting superpowers from a pair of pink roller skates, using AI to be big where you feel small, geeking out over DaVinci, and why being “unemployable” doesn’t make you…unemployable.
Well, I'm super excited to be with you. So thank
Stephanie Maas:you for sharing your time, I would actually love for you to
Stephanie Maas:start with your background, because I think that sets a nice
Stephanie Maas:foundation for where you are today, walk us through a little
Stephanie Maas:bit of your background.
Alysia Silberg:So it's a wild journey, and I'll do my absolute
Alysia Silberg:best to share with your listeners, the stuff that I feel
Alysia Silberg:is most important in terms of their own journeys. So my dad
Alysia Silberg:was an immigrant from Eastern Europe, you know, back in the
Alysia Silberg:day, so he was born in 1870. Sounds completely wild. And that
Alysia Silberg:was a very different time in America. So they went on boats
Alysia Silberg:to South Africa, arrived in South Africa in 1929, you know,
Alysia Silberg:these immigrants with just clothes on their backs. And he
Alysia Silberg:was very fortunate, he had a passion, which was the arts, he
Alysia Silberg:was a chemist by training. And he made his way to America, you
Alysia Silberg:know, an incredibly difficult thing at the time. And he
Alysia Silberg:trained under Max Factor, the makeup artist, and he became
Alysia Silberg:somebody who worked on movie sets with the most famous
Alysia Silberg:celebrities in the world. And I think part of my madcap
Alysia Silberg:adventure inside of me comes from it comes from my dad's
Alysia Silberg:journey, he had to unfortunately go back to South Africa, even
Alysia Silberg:though he was successful in America. And that started a
Alysia Silberg:journey for all of us in the sense that during the pot, I
Alysia Silberg:created what was the world's only pharmacy and costume hire
Alysia Silberg:store. And I was born into this, as I say, wild environment. And
Alysia Silberg:I grew up in that environment. And whilst it was fun, it was
Alysia Silberg:also incredibly difficult, because there was always a
Alysia Silberg:shortage of money growing up. So he was passionate about helping
Alysia Silberg:other people read it in the book, as a chemist, because, you
Alysia Silberg:know, apartheid, there was no doctors for the bulk of South
Alysia Silberg:Africa, give away medicines for free, he became this community
Alysia Silberg:doctor. So for us, we kind of suffered the consequences,
Alysia Silberg:because we were always short on money. And this whole, you know,
Alysia Silberg:he died in during a car accident very unexpectedly. And then we
Alysia Silberg:were going to lose the business because the business was
Alysia Silberg:crippled in debt. So they were coming for the house, they were
Alysia Silberg:coming for absolutely, everything we owned, I was
Alysia Silberg:telling my brother was six years older than me, my mother was a
Alysia Silberg:ballerina. So you know, that's the kind of skills she had. And
Alysia Silberg:it was a fight for human survival. And we started just
Alysia Silberg:like fighting for this business. We slept in the shop, which was
Alysia Silberg:extremely dangerous. You know, like, there's a lot, a lot went
Alysia Silberg:wrong. And I slept under costume rules for a long time. And we
Alysia Silberg:just worked 1820 hours a day for five years, we managed to save
Alysia Silberg:the business a lot with load. That's what took me on my
Alysia Silberg:journey to Canada, because we wanted more my brother and I, we
Alysia Silberg:were obsessed with getting to North America. And eventually I
Alysia Silberg:made my way to North America. And today, I'm incredibly
Alysia Silberg:fortunate. I get to invest in startups after being a founder,
Alysia Silberg:I get to work with extraordinary people. And so I'm incredibly,
Alysia Silberg:incredibly grateful to be in the US and to be, you know, building
Alysia Silberg:startups and working with startups.
Stephanie Maas:Okay, so South Africa and then Canada. Tell me
Stephanie Maas:about that.
Alysia Silberg:Sure. So we were poor. We had a very old car, we
Alysia Silberg:would barely go but we had a call. And we lived in a very
Alysia Silberg:dangerous neighborhood as well couldn't afford to leave. And
Alysia Silberg:one night and a Saturday night we got attacked was very intense
Alysia Silberg:attacking, and I got shot. My mother got beaten up, it was
Alysia Silberg:harrowing, even like, even by a Hollywood movie standards. The
Alysia Silberg:moment that happened, I decided I was always obsessed with
Alysia Silberg:coming to America. From the day I was born. I think my dad
Alysia Silberg:wanted that seat in my mind. I was like, I'm going no matter
Alysia Silberg:what it takes, and my circumstances around me. People
Alysia Silberg:refer to it as a dead end life. That was my life in South
Alysia Silberg:Africa. And for many people, that's their lives. We got to
Alysia Silberg:cap, I remember standing, bleeding, screaming my head or
Alysia Silberg:screaming sight, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I'm going and you
Alysia Silberg:have to help me leave. I made up my mind there. And then I was
Alysia Silberg:going to get to North America no matter what. And my brother and
Alysia Silberg:I came up with a very entrepreneurial venture, where
Alysia Silberg:we would create costumes, you know, from our crazy costume
Alysia Silberg:shop, or the burgeoning Hollywood film industry in
Alysia Silberg:Canada. Sounds crazy. But this is economics tax. So basically,
Alysia Silberg:Hollywood, very expensive, create movies, New York, very
Alysia Silberg:expensive to create movies. And so that at that time, they were
Alysia Silberg:starting to do a lot more movies in Nova Scotia. And my brother
Alysia Silberg:and I have been very good researchers. We figured this
Alysia Silberg:out. And we figured out that there was a trade treaty between
Alysia Silberg:certain countries in Canada, and that you could apply towards
Alysia Silberg:making this trade treaty. And you can get funding and you
Alysia Silberg:could build a business. And so I was shipped to Canada to go
Alysia Silberg:pitch this to the Canadian government. I was 15 at the
Alysia Silberg:time, and I'm telling them about this amazing, amazing, you know,
Alysia Silberg:venture that they would of course, want to participate.
Alysia Silberg:They said yes, they were incredible. That was my first
Alysia Silberg:taste of what it meant to be in North America. In terms of being
Alysia Silberg:an entrepreneur to see a well organized things are the
Alysia Silberg:opportunities. And no one laughed at me when said I was
Alysia Silberg:stupid, and what I experienced changed my life.
Stephanie Maas:Okay, so you did that at 15?
Alysia Silberg:15. And it was crazy. Like when I look back,
Alysia Silberg:I'm like, Wow, a grown up mature version of me it was like, I
Alysia Silberg:think it was adrenaline, as well as nothing to lose. I think that
Alysia Silberg:played a big role where your life is so bleak, that you're
Alysia Silberg:like, I really have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I
Alysia Silberg:see homelessness in America. Yeah, I live in, in Venice in
Alysia Silberg:LA. And I see all those people. And I think about it every day.
Alysia Silberg:And I'm like, I could be one of those people. I just happen to
Alysia Silberg:be lucky enough that I had a drive to say, okay, my
Alysia Silberg:circumstances suck. And no one's going to come in to rescue us
Alysia Silberg:like this. And I'm going to try and I'm not going to give up to
Alysia Silberg:the state that drives me. I can never forget how close we came
Alysia Silberg:to having absolutely nothing.
Stephanie Maas:Tell me, I know you said you and your mom didn't
Stephanie Maas:always get along. What were some of the things you garnered from
Stephanie Maas:her?
Alysia Silberg:My ability to never give up? She pushed me
Alysia Silberg:extraordinarily hard. I think in some respects, it almost damaged
Alysia Silberg:me. I had somebody who had a very tough life, and who kept
Alysia Silberg:pushing me harder, because she knew how tough life had been.
Alysia Silberg:And she wanted me to to have the best life possible. Even if she
Alysia Silberg:had difficulty in helping me create that.
Stephanie Maas:Has she been able to see your success?
Alysia Silberg:No. But th at's okay. I hope she's proud of me.
Stephanie Maas:I'm sure she is. Sure she is. Let's shift gears
Stephanie Maas:ever so slightly and talk about technology? I just think there's
Stephanie Maas:an aptitude for technology. Some people have it, some people
Stephanie Maas:don't, I definitely don't have it. So that's very interesting
Stephanie Maas:to me. So you're 15 years old? What technology did you have at
Stephanie Maas:hand? How did you figure out that that's kind of part of your
Stephanie Maas:thing.
Alysia Silberg:Thank you for your honesty, in terms of your
Alysia Silberg:ability to use technology. I understand. It's ironic, but I'm
Alysia Silberg:not good with technology. As funny as that may sound. I'm not
Alysia Silberg:natural at this. And I think that's important. But at that
Alysia Silberg:time, the Internet was so so so basic, like it was really basic.
Alysia Silberg:And when you asked about Canada, you got to picture these two
Alysia Silberg:kids sitting in deepest, darkest Africa, where the tip of Africa,
Alysia Silberg:were at an internet cafe. The internet was not like America,
Alysia Silberg:we sitting there looking on the internet, and we want to go to
Alysia Silberg:Canada. And we like, um, this place looks interesting. It's
Alysia Silberg:got a cute little bug. I'm not kidding with you. Okay, like a
Alysia Silberg:cute little sailing boat. It's in the pictures. And it looks
Alysia Silberg:very sophisticated compared to where we coming from. And this
Alysia Silberg:is Halifax, Nova Scotia. And that was our interaction with
Alysia Silberg:the internet, that it was like this raw thing that gave us the
Alysia Silberg:ability to build all our dreams. And that was the relationship
Alysia Silberg:I've owned with technology from very early on, were at each
Alysia Silberg:turn, I could do a certain amount. And then it needed to do
Alysia Silberg:something needed to do the rest. And it was always the
Alysia Silberg:technology, there was always something that could help me to
Alysia Silberg:help myself get where I wanted to stay like people like us are
Alysia Silberg:involved in AI. I'm like, it's pretty simple. I'm a human with
Alysia Silberg:a problem. And I've found that the technology helps me solve it
Alysia Silberg:like my accent. It's hard for Americans to understand my
Alysia Silberg:accent. For me, it's very important for Americans to
Alysia Silberg:understand me, I want to live here, I want to immerse myself
Alysia Silberg:in the culture. But in order to do that, people have to
Alysia Silberg:understand you. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get an AI coach,
Alysia Silberg:I'm just going to practice and practice. I just started
Alysia Silberg:applying it in every aspect of my life. And as I say, as a
Alysia Silberg:woman, it started giving me leverage, and I would have never
Alysia Silberg:had any other way. Because when I do things to almost make
Alysia Silberg:myself small, it would help me make myself big. And so that
Alysia Silberg:relationship, as I say was, again, survival allistic. But
Alysia Silberg:technology showed up for me in a massive, massive way.
Stephanie Maas:Fascinating. So the things you talked about was
Stephanie Maas:early on, you were willing to take these risks, because what
Stephanie Maas:did you have to lose? Now you have stuff to lose. How do you
Stephanie Maas:still keep that unbelievable risk appetite that served you
Stephanie Maas:incredibly well, but now you have something to lose. So talk
Stephanie Maas:to me about that.
Alysia Silberg:I think it comes down to our values. And I think
Alysia Silberg:the thing I value most in the world is learning. I can't get
Alysia Silberg:enough of learning. And I think that just drives me forward. I
Alysia Silberg:feel like physically sick when I'm not learning. Like it's it
Alysia Silberg:sounds insane. But it's that constant need to, to just keep
Alysia Silberg:growing. And it's like I'm constantly investing in
Alysia Silberg:startups. I'm constantly evolving and constantly creating
Alysia Silberg:some stuff work, some stuff doesn't work, but you know, you
Alysia Silberg:just keep on going. That's probably why I love AI so much
Alysia Silberg:because it grows and it grows faster than me, which sounds
Alysia Silberg:insane. But at the same time that keeps me on my toes. Like
Alysia Silberg:the times where I run into my own barriers in terms of like
Alysia Silberg:engaging with people because I've had impostor syndrome, you
Alysia Silberg:know, like it's stuck. There's realities of who we are. And in
Alysia Silberg:a work with the AI, I have conversations with with GPT
Alysia Silberg:around this and GP He loads faster than I do. And it adapts
Alysia Silberg:whilst than I do. And then I'm like, wow, that's interesting. I
Alysia Silberg:have to stop, I have to think about this. I have to come back
Alysia Silberg:tomorrow, what I could see it didn't stop learning, it was
Alysia Silberg:comfortable keeping on going, my mind couldn't go any farther
Alysia Silberg:that day. And that's been very interesting, because that forces
Alysia Silberg:my mind, in a positive way to keep on growing each time I get
Alysia Silberg:on a call with a founder. And each time I get to learn
Alysia Silberg:something new about what they're doing to solve a major problem
Alysia Silberg:in the world. For me, there's very few things that give me
Alysia Silberg:that kind of joy. It's a good way to be I think.
Stephanie Maas:I think that's fantastic. So let me ask you
Stephanie Maas:this. There's a ton of conversation right now around
Stephanie Maas:this idea of growth mindset. And it got me thinking, do you think
Stephanie Maas:the growth mindset is that nature or nurture?
Alysia Silberg:Nurture. I took it upon myself to bold like a
Alysia Silberg:rewards challenge for myself, I've lived and died by these
Alysia Silberg:rewards challenges. So it's like mini habits, where I'll give
Alysia Silberg:myself like a walker rarely once as a reward. And I'll be like,
Alysia Silberg:I'm gonna break through on this thing. And for me, that was
Alysia Silberg:like, I could see I was fixed in a lot of areas. And that I never
Alysia Silberg:wanted to be, I knew that to get to America. To live the life, I
Alysia Silberg:wanted to feel the sense of fulfillment and joy that I
Alysia Silberg:sought so much, versus the pain and heartache. And as you say, a
Alysia Silberg:survivor that was still within me, even if externally it may
Alysia Silberg:not have looked so much like that. And as to do that I have
Alysia Silberg:to change the wiring in my brain. Trust me, it was a really
Alysia Silberg:tough thing to do. But I think that was why it was very
Alysia Silberg:important for me to write the book because I could see how
Alysia Silberg:there was so much darkness that came with me so much pain, so
Alysia Silberg:much heartache so much just like yuckiness still inside of me,
Alysia Silberg:even though I was I had a lot of accomplishments. And to really
Alysia Silberg:do that I had to take on a growth mindset. And I have to
Alysia Silberg:say like, this is my life, like, this is what I'm going to do. I
Alysia Silberg:went from I Can't to I Can, because there were a number of
Alysia Silberg:times I wanted to get out. But I believe that I don't think a lot
Alysia Silberg:of people who have been through difficulty, have that growth
Alysia Silberg:mindset nurtured into them. But I do believe they cannot share
Alysia Silberg:it into themselves.
Stephanie Maas:I think one of the things that is going to be
Stephanie Maas:so relatable to you, I mean, let's face it, most of us have
Stephanie Maas:not grown up in some of the extreme situations that you have
Stephanie Maas:been faced with. But despite that, we still struggle with the
Stephanie Maas:same things that you mentioned, the I can't, the imposter syndrome...
Alysia Silberg:I was carrying so much baggage, though, even if
Alysia Silberg:I wasn't aware of it. And the idea that I put on paper, and I
Alysia Silberg:highly encourage you and everyone listening, it's an
Alysia Silberg:incredible exercise to actually sit down. And writable I highly
Alysia Silberg:recommend anyone that thinks that they really got a gift and
Alysia Silberg:they want to share it, I call it superpowers, you have that gift
Alysia Silberg:yourself however long it takes just keep going, just keep
Alysia Silberg:going. And as I say, it's worth it.
Stephanie Maas:That's awesome. So I love your transition,
Stephanie Maas:because the next thing I want to ask about was this superpower.
Stephanie Maas:What is your superpower or powers?
Alysia Silberg:Well, let me start by saying, I'd love to
Alysia Silberg:know what your superpower is. Me. It started with a pair of
Alysia Silberg:pink rode estates sounds insane. But I'm five years old. Everyone
Alysia Silberg:around these got these rode estates, and I realized we can't
Alysia Silberg:afford them. And I knew better to have off my parents was just
Alysia Silberg:like, not something I'd ever do. Because I didn't want to make
Alysia Silberg:them feel bad about themselves. And so that's how I figured out
Alysia Silberg:the solution. But for me, I learned to fall in love with
Alysia Silberg:selling like, it sounds crazy. But I learned to fall in love
Alysia Silberg:with like bullying companies selling and literally of solving
Alysia Silberg:someone's problem for them. Somebody has a problem. And I
Alysia Silberg:can delight them with the solution. And the memories
Alysia Silberg:people have of me being in the shop, and I could barely stand
Alysia Silberg:over the counter. And I'd be stretching up and I'd be smiling
Alysia Silberg:and I'd be selling and it was just it was like every time I
Alysia Silberg:message someone on behalf one of my companies, and I'm like,
Alysia Silberg:Please, we help them please, we don't you want to quit call and
Alysia Silberg:say no. Like, that's all I see without it. So I think that
Alysia Silberg:would be my one superpower. And I think the other one is maybe
Alysia Silberg:pattern recognition. You know, being a survivor, I learned to
Alysia Silberg:recognize patterns very early on, just in terms of survival.
Alysia Silberg:And in terms of like, keeping safe. And I think it's helped me
Alysia Silberg:a lot in terms of like, making investments and just learning to
Alysia Silberg:see where the world is going, which are in and out just like a
Alysia Silberg:joy to do that kind of thing. But I think pattern recognition
Alysia Silberg:too. I think many people comes down to curiosity as well, where
Alysia Silberg:you're like curious, hey, what's happening? And then like making
Alysia Silberg:these fun predictions for yourself and practicing making
Alysia Silberg:them until eventually they kind of just become like this like
Alysia Silberg:game you play with yourself.
Stephanie Maas:Very interesting. Hey, one of the
Stephanie Maas:things you talk about is obviously the name of the book
Stephanie Maas:Unemployable. You took a career aptitude test and it said you
Stephanie Maas:are not employable. How old were you when you took that test?
Alysia Silberg:I think I must have been 19 at the time, and it
Alysia Silberg:had a profound effect on me.
Stephanie Maas:Like why do you think that was so profound,
Stephanie Maas:because 18 or 19, you already had some successes.
Alysia Silberg:I think we have to start with, if you look back
Alysia Silberg:on the circumstances, so we're blue collar, all intensive
Alysia Silberg:purposes, if you look at our quality of life, not proper
Alysia Silberg:writing, you know, they turned off the water regularly, they
Alysia Silberg:turn off, you know, the power regularly like this was, this is
Alysia Silberg:the way we learned wasn't food regularly. And so the idea that
Alysia Silberg:I was able to join a fancy bank, in inverted commas fancy
Alysia Silberg:sophisticated investment bank, was that to some extent,
Alysia Silberg:especially in our culture, while I've made it, so I think it's
Alysia Silberg:important for us, this is Jiu Jitsu. So the idea that being
Alysia Silberg:Jewish going into banking was like, a prestigious thing. So
Alysia Silberg:finally, I cleaned up well, for lack of a better term, you know,
Alysia Silberg:like, I made my family proud. And we're finally moving into a
Alysia Silberg:different class structure, I suppose. And the idea that, at
Alysia Silberg:that last moment, I take this test, I've never failed a test
Alysia Silberg:before I've been told my entire life, you've got to be the best,
Alysia Silberg:no option, the best, and whatever cost to compensate the
Alysia Silberg:best. I've been to expensive fancy Jewish school on a
Alysia Silberg:scholarship. But the idea that I got told, we don't want you
Alysia Silberg:here, you have no place. Yeah, you don't belong here. Once
Alysia Silberg:again, you're an outsider, in your own community. So everyone
Alysia Silberg:around me had, you know, been to these fancy schools being to
Alysia Silberg:work in banks, it was a cultural thing, where that's what people
Alysia Silberg:do. And the idea that I got told, you're an entrepreneur,
Alysia Silberg:I'm thinking, Oh, no more, no entrepreneur never allowed, you
Alysia Silberg:know, into the system. And your researcher, okay, you stating
Alysia Silberg:the obvious these two things I can do. But I don't want to only
Alysia Silberg:be able to do these things, I want to be able to hold my head
Alysia Silberg:up high, I want to belong somewhere. And the idea that
Alysia Silberg:I've bought the frame on my family, that was very painful.
Alysia Silberg:The idea that once again, and being thrown out of the insider
Alysia Silberg:club, always the outside, never the insider, it was ironic
Alysia Silberg:because they were basically complimenting me. And they were
Alysia Silberg:saying, well, you're very good at what you do. You have to
Alysia Silberg:develop mastery at what you do, stick to what you're doing. But
Alysia Silberg:it wasn't well received in that community. And that's why I
Alysia Silberg:wanted to come to America. Because in this country, it's,
Alysia Silberg:it's noble, to be a founder, it's noble, that if you fail,
Alysia Silberg:you get up you try again, and I'm gonna judge you.
Stephanie Maas:I do think when when we're doing it, right, as a
Stephanie Maas:country, we allow you to make your own club. And that is
Stephanie Maas:certainly what you have done.
Alysia Silberg:It's a very special country. I think you
Alysia Silberg:have to grow up elsewhere. And Americans are like, we're going
Alysia Silberg:through so many problems. And I'm like, you have to grow up
Alysia Silberg:elsewhere, to know how special it is. And it's very, very
Alysia Silberg:special. And it's worth protecting because there's
Alysia Silberg:nowhere else like, like, there's nowhere else that gives the kind
Alysia Silberg:of opportunities like it's suffering, Americans are
Alysia Silberg:different. Anything's possible. And the fact that you can be
Alysia Silberg:building basically anything, and you always find a customer to
Alysia Silberg:support you, you will always find an investor to support you,
Alysia Silberg:you'll always find employees to be on your team. It's
Alysia Silberg:incredible. If I could run for president and run for president
Alysia Silberg:just because I want to protect the country.
Stephanie Maas:Well, I think it would be an honor to have
Stephanie Maas:someone of your character run for president. I understand
Stephanie Maas:there are laws that prevent that. But that would be a breath
Stephanie Maas:of fresh air. So since that's off the table, what is next for
Stephanie Maas:you? What are your eyes set on next?
Alysia Silberg:So I want to build a community around
Alysia Silberg:unemployable of force for good at a time where as I say, I'm
Alysia Silberg:very involved in AI, we've seen a lot of change in terms of the
Alysia Silberg:economy. And we see a lot of, you know, tech layoffs. And so
Alysia Silberg:for me, the idea that people see this as more than a book, but
Alysia Silberg:more as a platform where they're like, Hey, I'm worried about
Alysia Silberg:losing my job, or I lost my job, or I just want to build
Alysia Silberg:something. And the idea that they see the lessons in the book
Alysia Silberg:as an inspiration, and give, it gives them that sense of courage
Alysia Silberg:to be like, Okay, I'm going to use this information. And I'm
Alysia Silberg:going to start building because as we were talking, each person
Alysia Silberg:has a superpower and use the power of internet. I keep saying
Alysia Silberg:to people there 3 billion people online, you don't need 3 billion
Alysia Silberg:customers with all you know, there's so many studies you need
Alysia Silberg:1000, Boston was to build a very nice business for yourself, that
Alysia Silberg:can sustain you in a very great manner. So the idea that people
Alysia Silberg:say, Okay, I'm going to bold, I'm going to build a company for
Alysia Silberg:myself. I think that inspires me beyond beyond measure. My
Alysia Silberg:personal goal for myself is NSC 100,000 companies. And people
Alysia Silberg:say to me, where do you want those companies founded? And I
Alysia Silberg:have American 33 So Delaware based company sounds crazy, but
Alysia Silberg:I'm very proud of the fact that people contribute to the US
Alysia Silberg:economy pay tax and bite people in that I think it's great. And
Alysia Silberg:so that's that's a big big goal for me is that I see that
Alysia Silberg:succeed and you know, invest heavily in AI. I got a free AI
Alysia Silberg:newsletter, which I hope people join subscribe to, they can ask
Alysia Silberg:me questions. We've put a lot of work into it. I have a team or
Alysia Silberg:and it's like tools, it's all kinds of things that I encourage
Alysia Silberg:people to just start looking at. And people be like, Wow, that's
Alysia Silberg:a bit scary. You know, I'm just starting out, I know nothing
Alysia Silberg:about AI. And that's fine. Just start looking at it, if you're
Alysia Silberg:interested in on, look, look at the images and be like, Wow,
Alysia Silberg:that's AI generated on the cover of the book. These AI generated
Alysia Silberg:images in the book are AI generated, we work very hard to
Alysia Silberg:create those one of my founders. And so finding something you
Alysia Silberg:interested in when it comes to the AI too, and just say, hey,
Alysia Silberg:at least he's got some articles on those things. Then you read
Alysia Silberg:about me message. me ask her a question. When me that's very
Alysia Silberg:important, because I want people to be left behind the exciting
Alysia Silberg:time to be living. So those are my priorities right now.
Stephanie Maas:That's awesome. Okay, so I know you have a
Stephanie Maas:thirst to learn. I would even say it is almost for you like
Stephanie Maas:breathing. It just naturally brings you joy, which by the
Stephanie Maas:way, I mean, of all the things to love. That's a good one. You
Stephanie Maas:love it so much people will ask you if you're on drugs, that is
Stephanie Maas:saying, Wow, that is fantastic. I mean, really? Okay. But what
Stephanie Maas:are your guilty pleasures? What do you secretly love to learn
Stephanie Maas:about that people might be surprised or didn't know, or
Stephanie Maas:whatever the case may be.
Alysia Silberg:I love learning about art, I think it's because
Alysia Silberg:there's so much to understand that you don't you create your
Alysia Silberg:own interpretation. But at the same time, there's so many
Alysia Silberg:layers to it, like I recently watched, I'm obsessed with the
Alysia Silberg:Renaissance. We're living through modern day Renaissance.
Alysia Silberg:And I was just in Italy, and just celebrate the book coming
Alysia Silberg:out. I learnt about some pieces by Leonardo da Vinci. And they
Alysia Silberg:had as a result of the technology, there were so many
Alysia Silberg:layers on this piece that no one was aware of. But the
Alysia Silberg:technologies enabled us to see it. And they were like five
Alysia Silberg:artworks on one artwork. And it was just so incredible, to be
Alysia Silberg:able to wow, like, I wonder what he was thinking about in that
Alysia Silberg:version. I wonder what he was thinking about an effort and it
Alysia Silberg:was just so fascinating. And so for me, the entire house is
Alysia Silberg:covered in OT and OT and audiobooks. I can never buy
Alysia Silberg:enough audiobooks. So I think that's an again, the privilege
Alysia Silberg:of living in the US. In South Africa. We had no art galleries,
Alysia Silberg:museums, art galleries, everything was stolen. And the
Alysia Silberg:idea that I can get at a home for free to an art gallery, a
Alysia Silberg:different art gallery every Sunday. Wow. That's my guilty
Alysia Silberg:pleasure. And I never get tired of it.
Stephanie Maas:Your humility is so sincere. And it comes through
Stephanie Maas:so much in your just gratitude, which Oh, it's so endearing.
Stephanie Maas:Really appreciate your willingness to give of your time.
Alysia Silberg:I think you've been incredibly generous with
Alysia Silberg:your time and so thoughtful with your questions. I really
Alysia Silberg:appreciate it. If people are looking for the book, they can
Alysia Silberg:find it on Amazon, I think that's the easiest place to find
Alysia Silberg:it. And one of the feedback is don't try to ferret like I'm
Alysia Silberg:obsessed with radical open mindedness and allowed learning.
Alysia Silberg:So if this stuff I can take away from the book, right in your
Alysia Silberg:review, like be honest, and message me reach out to me, and
Alysia Silberg:I want to engage with people. So whatever your feedback is, just
Alysia Silberg:reach out to me, let me know.
Stephanie Maas:But if it's mean, I'm going to respond, you
Stephanie Maas:don't need to be mean people.
Alysia Silberg:Thank you, again, incredibly, incredibly
Alysia Silberg:appreciative for this beautiful, beautiful conversation.