Today, we're diving into a fascinating case study from my Gut reset program. If you've ever wondered what it's like to work with me, this episode will give you a behind-the-scenes look at the transformative journey of one of my clients, Tony.
Tony's Journey
Tony approached me with severe nightly pain caused by bile acid reflux, compounded by a missing gallbladder. His restrictive diet, coupled with constipation and gastric dumping, had led to weight loss and low energy levels.
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:I'm going to go through some mini
case studies of some of my clients
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:to show you exactly what it's like.
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:to be part of my GRIP gut reset.
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:Hopefully it will give you an idea of the
types of solutions I provide for people.
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:The types of people who actually reach
out and want to work with a nutritionist
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:for their IBS or other gut health issues.
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:As well as key supplements I've
used, the exact things I've helped
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:them reintroduce with their diet.
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:And specifically, how they
have found the process.
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:So what kind of reactions did they
have to the suggestions that I made?
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:And what kind of results
were they able to achieve?
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:I hope this will give you a good
insight into how I work with people.
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:Welcome to episode 32
of the Inside Knowledge.
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:I'm Anna Mapson.
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:I'd like to introduce you to Tony.
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:Tony, I worked with this year, and
his big problem when we started
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:working together was severe pain every
single night that was coming from a
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:bile acid build up during the night.
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:He had bile acid reflux, so that's where
the bile that we produce to help us
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:emulsify fats was backing up into his
stomach and causing him a lot of pain.
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:The reason it was dripping out
is he didn't have a gallbladder.
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:He'd had it removed about 30 years prior.
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:And it was really affecting his sleep,
really bad pain he was getting, and he
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:also had issues around constipation.
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:So he was passing one bowel movement
every day, but he was really struggling.
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:He also felt that he had some
problems with gastric dumping.
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:So this is where your stomach is emptying
too quickly into the small intestine.
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:All of these problems together had led him
to have a really, really restrictive diet.
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:So not only was he waking up several
times throughout the night, He was
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:also on such a small selection of
foods, so his energy levels were
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:really low, he'd lost a lot of weight.
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:He was extremely low in mood and just felt
like things had hit a real crisis point.
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:He was only eating eight different foods,
and actually one of those foods was...
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:and fruit juice.
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:So it was a really reduced
amount of different things and
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:eating those on repeat every day.
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:But with a sense of hopelessness,
there was a sense that he was not
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:going to survive this Health condition.
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:He really felt like things had got
so bad that he was just wasting away,
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:and he didn't know where to turn to.
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:Obviously, he'd been to
his doctors lots of times.
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:He'd really been back and forth, to
his different healthcare providers, and
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:they had run lots of different tests,
they had given him some medication
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:to help excrete the bile out of
the body, and that was helping
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:to an extent, but not really.
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:The reason that Tony said he wanted
to work with me is that he knew from
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:our first discovery call where we went
through his issues that I had a good
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:understanding of his health conditions,
of Diet and food and what things can do
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:and by that I just understood what the
medication was I Knew a lot about the
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:different medical terms that he was using
and I was able to challenge him a little
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:bit on Different diet things that he
may have heard online or read about that
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:Actually, I thought weren't helpful.
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:So he knew that we were gonna have a good
working relationship and that we would be
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:able to be on the same page about things.
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:So I think that's what really helped
him is that discovery call, just
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:feeling like actually I can learn
from you and I want to work with you.
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:And I have to say he is one of the
most committed people I've ever
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:worked with in terms of taking
everything on and really going for it.
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:So as an example of that, one
of the first things I wanted to
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:do is try and get him eating.
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:a variety of different foods.
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:I wanted to increase the amount of fiber
that he was getting to help increase
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:bowel movements and ease that sense
of constipation that he was getting.
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:I also really wanted him to eat more
protein because I was really concerned
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:that he was not able to sustain his
muscle mass and would eventually start
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:to lose even more weight if he couldn't
increase his amount of calories.
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:I started off by suggesting to him that
he would introduce green beans, so little
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:thin green beans, and at such a gentle
way we would start off with one bean.
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:On one day, the next day we
would increase it to two beans,
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:and the next day to three beans.
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:So that was my first suggestion, and
I said you don't need to do anything,
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:just the first step is to go out,
buy the beans, and we will chat in
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:a few days and see how it's gone.
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:One of the examples of how I think he
was so committed is By the time I'd
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:spoken to him, he had already bought
the beans and he'd already done day
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:one and day two, and he was just on it.
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:He was so keen to make some changes.
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:And even though these were tiny
changes, he was really prepared to
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:give it a go, despite the anxiety
and the worry that this would not
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:work for him, that there would be a
further problem by following my advice.
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:This is a really crucial
part of working with someone.
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:So if you.
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:Have a call with me or someone else,
another nutritionist, and you don't
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:really get the sense that they know what
they're talking about, and that they have
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:got examples of having done this before,
and , that you just don't believe what
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:they're suggesting is going to be helpful.
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:It's not going to work.
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:You have to buy in to the process and
you have to buy in to the thought that
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:this person is the right one for you.
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:And it might not be the right one.
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:Like, you can shop around and
find different nutritional
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:therapists all over the world.
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:People who are doing a similar job
to me but in a different style.
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:You've got to find the
right person for you.
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:The next thing that I really wanted him
to focus on was increasing his protein
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:and this was where it didn't go so well.
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:Um, I asked him to start taking some whey
powder because when people are sensitive
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:to FODMAPs, that's the carbohydrate
element of lots of foods, lactose can be.
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:something that people react to.
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:It can make you bloated, it can give you
gas, it can cause diarrhoea, all kinds
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:of things that people don't always get on
well with in terms of drinking cow's milk.
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:However, I have had some really good
results with people taking whey protein,
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:so that's the protein from dairy.
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:and adding it to their food, or
adding it to a smoothie or something.
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:The problem was, is that he wasn't
having anything that he could mix
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:it with, so it was really difficult.
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:So what he decided to do was buy some
milk and mix the whey protein with milk.
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:This was terrible, and he started getting
a lot of gas, and even within one day, he
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:just decided this was not going to work.
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:So, what we did instead was move back
towards focusing on other types of
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:protein, and he kept the whey protein
because it keeps for a long time, won't
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:go off, and we started thinking about how
he could eat more eggs, because eggs were
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:another protein he was prepared to try.
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:So starting off with just one, then
having maybe two scrambled eggs, and
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:then maybe moving on to an omelette.
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:The next vegetable that he
increased was butternut squash.
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:So once he'd got to three green beans, I
said keep it at that level for a few days,
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:then we're going to start to aim for 80
grams, which is one portion of vegetables.
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:So I wanted him to aim for 80
grams of the But once he'd got to
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:say about 40 grams, we started to
reintroduce another vegetable, which
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:in this case was butternut squash.
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:And again, starting with really
small amounts, little cubes of
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:mashed up soft boiled vegetables,
really easy to digest and just helped
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:him to get a bit more confidence.
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:That was just in the first sort of two
weeks, we just introduced those things.
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:So green beans, the whey,
which went terribly, and then
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:butternut squash and eggs.
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:In this way, he's starting to increase
his fiber, starting to increase
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:some protein containing foods.
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:Now alongside all of this, there was
education really around Digestion and
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:how long things take to move through
you, so I asked him to do a stool
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:transit time to check how long food
was taking for him to eat, uh, and then
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:how long he would see it in the toilet.
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:This was really important because
he was feeling that some foods were
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:giving him an immediate sense of
constipation or bad bowel movement.
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:And I talked a lot about how long
food takes to move through us.
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:If you want some details on
that, go and listen to episode
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:one about normal digestion.
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:But, effectively, you're looking
for like 24 hours, 36 hours
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:for food to start coming out.
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:That's normal.
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:So something you literally just
eat is not going to cause you
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:constipation or a hard stool the
next time that you go to the toilet.
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:So it's kind of uncoupling that
sense of what you're eating,
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:giving you an immediate problem.
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:We also had a lot of conversations
about what is constipated,
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:what does that actually mean.
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:If you're going to the toilet every day
and the stools are relatively soft, and
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:you're having sufficient amount of stool
come out of you, that's not constipated.
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:And yet, some people feel that they
haven't got rid of everything, and there's
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:this sense of incomplete evacuation.
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:That is really common.
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:Now it doesn't necessarily mean
that you're constipated and
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:that you need laxatives or that
you need to change your diet.
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:It could just be needing to eat
more food because sometimes we
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:need more bulk to move along.
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:A lot of things are getting absorbed
through the gut and so sometimes
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:you need to add more fibre in, in
order to get a more bulky stool.
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:And that is actually what
happened in this case.
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:So the more...
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:food he ate like by the time he got
through a month or a month and a half
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:that actually he was getting a really
good stool and it was happening because
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:he was eating more fiber, more bulk
that could be passed through the gut.
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:Tony also introduced potatoes.
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:These were good foods for him
because we could cook them in a
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:variety of ways and led him to eat
a bit more of an interesting diet.
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:Also kiwi fruit because I stressed
about how it was a good way, low
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:FODMAP way, to increase stools
and move away from constipation.
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:But he also introduced a whole range
of proteins including beef, salmon,
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:chicken and even nuts as well.
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:And some days he ended up
going two to three times a day.
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:This was in about a month into
our journey of working together.
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:I also really wanted him to
focus on flavour giving food.
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:So things like green herbs,
like parsley, coriander, mint.
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:These are really great additions to
boost the flavour profile of your meals
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:and make them a bit more desirable.
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:When you've had a history of
eating the same food again and
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:again, it just gets so boring.
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:And so naturally you don't.
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:Really feel much of an appetite.
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:So in order to stimulate your appetite
to be able to eat more It's good to
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:increase flavors things like ginger,
citrus fruits These can all be really
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:helpful in small doses to begin with
till you feel confident with the flavor
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:And then you can just go wild with those
things like green leafy herbs Because
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:they're actually really good for you as
well and can contain things like iron and
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:magnesium Going back to the protein, Tony
really had a sense that when he ate too
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:much protein, his stomach just shut down.
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:He felt like things did not move
through his gut for a really long time.
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:He felt too full eating a
small amount of protein.
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:So when we've introduced these things like
beef and the salmon, at first he was just
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:eating a really small amount once a day.
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:Obviously, I knew that this is not
enough protein to keep him going.
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:However, he was prepared to keep going
with it and just stay at, for example,
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:three days, eating one amount of beef for
three days in a row, just at lunchtime.
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:After that period, once he felt
like that was being okay and
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:tolerated, he was able to eat.
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:Protein twice a day, for example,
having eggs in the morning, having
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:the chicken at lunch and then even
moving on to having three amounts
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:of protein throughout the day.
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:As his confidence grew, we also introduced
snacks in between meals, and these were
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:additional ways to eat foods that he just
quite fancied eating, that he actually
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:just ate for enjoyment, but also to
try to up the nutrient content and up
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:the calorie content because he really
didn't want to lose any more weight.
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:So this feeling that protein was bad for
him that was closing down his system and
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:shutting things down was actually really
key to address because without that level
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:of protein I didn't feel like he was going
to get enough energy and enough strength
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:to start and start feeling better overall.
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:We need a lot of fats, proteins, carbs.
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:Like we need the balance of all of these
things to have a good, healthy response
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:and be able to create neurotransmitters
that help us feel happier.
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:And just feeling like we've got
energy to want to go out for a walk.
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:We need nutrients for all of these things.
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:Basically feeling like you're having
a good life rather than just existing.
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:And so trying to get
all of those different.
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:Balance of nutrients in was really
important in order to make it
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:feel like life isn't just about
this condition or the problems.
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:Actually, he felt like the more
he ate, his appetite came back.
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:So.
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:He ended up saying, I've got
a huge appetite this week.
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:About two months into working together,
and he had not felt hungry for so long.
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:One of the best points for me in
this was that he said he once had
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:a normal bowel movement and it was
the first he'd had in four years.
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:And he was really happy and we had a
little mini celebration about that.
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:Because this is a real turning point.
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:And it felt...
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:to him like a normal bowel movement
and I really attribute this to eating
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:more food and eating a bigger variety
of foods because it was enabling
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:him to have a better bowel movement
but also enabling him to feel more
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:energy, feel a bit more positive.
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:One of the final areas he introduced
was The really high FODMAP foods,
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:including onions, garlic, and also wheat.
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:I talked a lot about the prebiotic
qualities of these foods, like they
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:are really good for your gut bacteria,
and how grains as well, like whole
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:grains, including wheat, rice,
these can be very beneficial foods
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:for supporting your gut bacteria.
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:With this client, I didn't use many.
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:supplements.
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:One of the things I suggested
that he would do would be start
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:taking some magnesium powder.
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:And this was specifically at the
beginning when I had really understood
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:that he was feeling constipated and
he also had a high degree of anxiety.
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:So we used magnesium citrate powder.
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:The reason I like using a powder
with people is because you can
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:titrate it up and down, you can
increase the dose, and you can make
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:very small doses if you prefer.
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:So powder is really good in that sense,
particularly when people are nervous
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:about taking different supplements.
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:I also suggested that he start taking
butyrate, which is a short chain fatty
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:acid produced by your gut bacteria.
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:But if you don't have many good bacteria
in the gut, then sometimes it can be a
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:way to accelerate progress by changing
the environment of the gut by actually
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:putting this short chain fatty acid in.
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:There's three types of short chain fatty
acids that our good gut bacteria make.
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:Butyrate is one of them.
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:The other ones are acetate and proponiate.
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:These are anti Inflammatory.
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:They are fuel for the colon cells and
they can actually move around the body
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:and have an anti inflammatory effect.
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:But specifically in the gut, they
really help to change the environment
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:of the gut and so sometimes taking a
butyrate supplement may be helpful.
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:It's not important for everybody
and the best way to get that
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:is through food and fibre.
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:But at the beginning when he wasn't
really eating much fibre, I thought that
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:this might help accelerate his changes.
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:And towards the end of working
together, we talked about
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:introducing some probiotics as well.
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:He was keen to do that, but I wouldn't
have thought it was essential.
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:It was just another like additional
future proofing to try and really
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:keep, keep things working as they were.
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:One of the really nice things
that we ended on was him saying
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:this is better than I ever
thought it could be for myself.
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:Like, I can really see myself
getting better now and that sense
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:of hope was really moving for me.
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:I have to say, I really enjoyed working
with this person because he was so engaged
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:in the suggestions that I gave him.
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:Another thing that was slightly different
that I hadn't done before was encouraged
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:him to use An iQuoro device, so this
is like a little plastic device you
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:put in your mouth and bite down on
it and it tries to help you tone the
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:muscles in your throat and your neck
and can be quite helpful for people
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:with various issues around swallowing,
sometimes like if dysphagia where you
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:can't swallow very well or you have
silent reflux, it's just about helping
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:coordinate the muscles of your throat,
your esophagus and, and The tongue
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:as well, and strengthening those up.
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:The thing about this device
is that it only really works
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:if you continue to do it.
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:It's a bit like weight training.
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:It's not like a once and
done and you've done it.
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:It's like you have to keep going
and keep those muscles working.
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:But if it allows you to eat better
and get the sense that your diet is
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:improving, I think it's worth doing
some of those things sometimes in
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:order to sustain the improvements.
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:And that's the other thing about when
I say people are really motivated.
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:When you are in such a bad place and you
can see some signs of improvement, of
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:course you're going to be more motivated.
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:There are other people who I've worked
with who, it takes a long while for them
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:to start to see changes and they don't
feel as motivated, and I really get that.
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:If you're not seeing progress,
it feels just all like an uphill
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:struggle, whereas in this case...
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:It was pretty quick, I have to say,
and rapidly saw some improvements
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:in the way that he was feeling.
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:So, I hope there's been something from
that that you can take that's useful
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:for your situation, your digestion.
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:If you're interested in working with
me, I work with people specifically
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:over three months in my gut reset.
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:Check out the show notes for links
to my website where you can find
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:out a bit more about how I work.
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:I work with you wherever you are in the
world, as long as the time differences
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:work and we can align our schedules to
talk during my working hours, then I'm
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:happy to work with you wherever you are.
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:And I also have a whole
range of education.
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:That is given as part of the Gut Reset in
videos and things that are pre recorded
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:that you can do in your own time.
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:So you can learn about gut health, about
diet and healthy nutrition, as well
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:as getting the regular coaching calls.
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:Because I speak to people each week and
I think for me that's a big part of why I
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:see this transformation or why I see this
Process being effective is that I really
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:get to know people and what will work.
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:And I think that's where people make
the biggest improvements is because
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:if things aren't working it's only
another few days until we speak again
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:and we can really problem solve and
work out what would be better for you.
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:What could you start, stop,
change to actually get the
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:improvements that you need.
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:Right, I will leave it
there for next week.