In this episode of 'Mum, Will the Planet Die Before I Do?' Katy is joined by guest presenter Ben McCallan from Zero Carbon Guildford, a charity that focuses on driving community-led climate action. Katy and Ben chat to Miatta Fahnbulleh, Chief Executive of the New Economics Foundation. Miatta has a wealth of experience generating ideas and policies to reshape the economy so that it works better for people and planet. Ben and Katy ask Miatta about her efforts to weave the climate crisis into conversations about politics, economics, transport and the cost of living crisis.

You can find out more about Zero Carbon Guildford here: https://www.zerocarbonguildford.org