Building a Business to Scale: Changes at Changing the Narrative
Episode 728th May 2024 • The Offstage Mic • Aubrey Bergauer
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Every episode this season has focused on business strategies that apply to arts management, such as patron retention, leveraging the subscription and membership economy, ecommerce, and digital content (to name a few!).

And in this episode, we look at how these strategies apply to my own business, Changing the Narrative—and how those same strategies have guided the evolution of my business over the last year or so as we’ve scaled up. 


We walk through my personal experience with growing Changing the Narrative, including the areas I needed to step away from, as well as the areas I decided to lean into further and build out. I also highlight some of the key lessons I've learned in hiring and building an effective team, using data and analytics for direction, and how important of a tool digital content is. My hope is you will find these lessons to be both relatable and applicable to your own arts organization.


The article mentioned several times: Scarcity Mindset Is Killing Your Arts Organization

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Aubrey Bergauer:

Hey everyone, I am excited to bring you today's episode

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because it's a little different than most

of the other episodes I've ever done.

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That is because we are spending

the entire time today looking

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inward at my own business.

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So this is sort of a real peel

back the curtain kind of look

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at some things I've been up to.

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As you know, unless this is your very

first episode, in which case Welcome.

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Otherwise, as you know, this season on

the Offstage Mike, we are talking about

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strategies to combat the challenges

we face in the cultural sector.

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And every episode has focused

on strategies borrowed from the

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business world that have proven

successful across patron retention.

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Subscriptions, e commerce, raising money,

and digital content, to name a few topics.

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And you literally hear those exact phrases

in my podcast trailer for this season,

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plus some of those in the welcome intro

theme that you'll hear in a moment, right?

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I was thinking about all of that,

and I had the idea for this episode

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a while back now, because it was when

I was planning out all the episodes

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for this season, thinking about

those different topics I just listed.

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And I had one more slot to fill.

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I had been going through the mental

Rolodex thinking on what might be

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helpful to you all listening as I

was going through that list, patron

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retention, subscriptions, e commerce,

raising money, digital content.

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I realized, I mean, I always

knew this, but somehow it

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hit different in the moment.

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That is to say, I realized that every

one of those topics is something I

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do in my own business every day, just

like everybody working in their day

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to day jobs at cultural organizations.

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So, to break it down, customer retention.

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My goal since launching my business

about five years ago now has been

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to provide so much value that

people keep coming back for more.

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And just like an arts organization,

repeat customers are worth more,

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they have a higher lifetime value,

and they mean that the work is

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Really actually making a difference.

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And otherwise you, they, people

wouldn't come back, right?

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Subscriptions.

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We'll talk a lot more about this

in this episode, but I launched

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my own subscription membership

product a year and a half ago.

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I am just so fascinated these days by

the membership and subscription economy.

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I learned as much as I could about it when

I was researching and writing my book.

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There's a whole chapter on this.

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If you've read it, you know,

deep dive just really had me sold

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on the value and benefits of.

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What we can learn from the

membership economy and subscription

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revenue and recurring revenue.

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And I wanted to practice

what I preach, to be honest.

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I wanted to be working firsthand

on a subscription product.

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I was, of course, when I was in my other

full time arts administration jobs, but

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I wanted in my work now to be employing

all the principles, strategies, and

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tactics I learned about, which makes me

that much more able to then help others

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as you all are applying these strategies.

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And your daily work, too.

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So more on that to come, but moving

down the list here, e commerce.

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Almost my entire business

now is e commerce based.

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That is the biggest part of my own

evolution and my business evolution.

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The biggest change at changing

the narrative is how much e

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commerce is a priority now.

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And wow, have I learned.

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So much and have continued to grow my

own chops in an online e commerce world.

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So a lot more to share on

this in this episode too.

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What else?

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Uh, raising money.

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This one I guess is probably where

I differ the most from traditional

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arts organizations right now.

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I just don't raise money in the

same way with individual donors

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because I'm not a non profit.

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I still occasionally write some grants

that I qualify for as a small business

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owner, as a women owned small business.

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So fine, but not the main focus

of this episode, I suppose.

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Digital content.

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This is so important to both arts

organizations and my own business

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now, probably any business anywhere.

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The concepts and strategies

are just all so similar.

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I've come to Not just know or see, but

really like deeply feel and believe.

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So similar in terms of using content to

educate, to make people want more from

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you, to be that gateway to more content

and ultimately the product that you offer.

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Content driving hunger for more.

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So all of those are topics

that I talk about all the time.

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They affect so many of us, no matter your

role in arts management, no matter if

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you are at an orchestra, opera, ballet

or other dance company, a theater.

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If you work in jazz, museum, or

other visitor based institution,

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the point is these topics affect

all of us in arts and culture.

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I draw the parallels to my own business

quite often, I feel like, but suddenly,

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as I said, I had this moment where

it kind of hit different, and I had

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this thought of, you know, I'm Aubrey,

so talk about it, share what you're

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doing, share what you've learned.

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It's going to be helpful

to somebody listening.

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I hope that proves true and

here's the plan for what we're

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going to do in this episode.

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I have made big changes in my own business

over the last year and a half or so.

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We're going to talk through it

all and why I chose to make those

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changes, what I did and why, why

I chose to make those changes.

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So, we're going to talk through it all,

and not just the what, but why, why did

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I make those changes, and how it relates

to the strategies and topics so many

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arts organizations and so many of you

all are also working on on a daily basis.

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Along the way, I am also going to share

some practical, tactical tools, programs,

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software, in other words, kind of the tech

stack that I use, as I get a fair amount

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of questions on this, especially for

smaller arts organizations or students.

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Startup organizations or new ensembles.

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But some of these tools, I will say,

are even for the big organizations,

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too, and really don't depend that much

on budget size or staff size at all.

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So hopefully something in there is

helpful to different folks listening.

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I have all of that for you in a

free resource that you can get

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if you want the list to quickly

reference, get the URLs, the details.

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Go to my website.

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It's aubreybergauer.

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com slash 28.

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That's 2 8 for episode 28.

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And you can download

my total resource list.

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That's what it's called.

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And it has all my favorite tools,

programs, services that hopefully

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some are helpful to you too.

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This is now the penultimate episode

of the season, and just, I will

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tease for you here that I am working

on something really great for you.

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Speaking of resources and tools, it is

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the summer And as you're prepping for the

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in real time, that is, when this airs,

I will share more in the next episode.

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So the final episode of the

season, I'll share more on this.

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But just so you know, you

don't want to miss it.

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If you are not on my email list, you

need to go there now to be notified.

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New free resource.

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So it's aubreybergauer.

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com slash free resource.

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So when it's time for me to be able to

share this with you, you're going to

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get it, you're going to get notified.

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So that's if you like free things.

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For now, we have this episode to get to.

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We are talking about building

a business to scale and how

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my own business has changed.

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Welcome to episode seven of

season three of The Offstage

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Mike, and it starts right now.

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I'm Aubrey Bergauer, and

welcome to my podcast.

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I'm known in the arts world for

being customer centric, data

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obsessed, and for growing revenue.

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The arts are my vehicle to make the

change I want to see in this world, like

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creating places of belonging, pursuing

gender and racial equality, developing

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high performing teams and leaders, and

leveraging technology to elevate our work.

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I've been called the Steve

Jobs of classical music at the

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Sheryl Sandberg of the symphony.

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I've helped offstage roles managing

millions of dollars in revenue at

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major institutions and as chief

executive of an orchestra where we

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doubled the size of the audience and

nearly quadrupled the donor base.

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And now I'm here to help you

achieve that same kind of success.

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In this podcast, we are sorting

through the data inside and outside

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the arts, applying those findings.

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Findings to our work, leading out

with our values, and bringing in

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some expert voices along the way.

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All to build the vibrant future

we know is possible for our

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institutions and for ourselves as

off stage administrators and leaders.

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Aubrey Bergauer: So, as I said

at the top, a lot has changed

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in the last year and a half.

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A lot has changed at

changing the narrative.

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So I am recording this now in May 2024,

if you're listening to this in real time.

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So May 2024, and everything I'm

about to share with you began really

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in November of 2022, I would say.

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So about one and a half years ago.

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November, December, that time frame

is when I do normally a lot of

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annual planning for the year ahead.

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So November of 2022,

I was doing just that.

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At the time, I was facing a A few

challenges in my business, namely

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just how I had maxed out how many

people in organizations I could serve.

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That's a good problem to have,

of course, but what really

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doesn't scale is time, right?

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That's true for any of us.

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We all have limits on our time.

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I was doing a lot of one on one work,

which I realized was kind of the

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fundamental crux of the problem here.

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I was doing one on one work in the form

of a lot of on site consulting, a lot of

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on site workshops, and some one on one

coaching as individuals would reach out.

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I just realized that, that just,

that's the reason it doesn't scale.

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There's only so many

hours in the day, right?

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It became clear that the, the way to

scale is you move away from one on

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one to a model that's one to many.

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So also happening simultaneously is I

ust at that time, November of:

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November 1st, I had, this date is so

burned into my brain, I had turned in

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the first draft manuscript of my book.

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That means I had just finished writing,

I mean, all of it, but in particular

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the chapters on monetizing education.

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I And the subscription membership economy.

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I was like, you know, talking to myself,

Aubrey, you can serve more people.

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The answer is like, hello,

staring you in the face.

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So I started making a plan to move

to that one to many scalable model

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based on monetizing the education

that I had previously offered as in

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person workshops and consulting, plus

incorporating all I had learned on

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the subscription membership economy.

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I spent all of 2023 doing that,

moving everything over, really

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changing so much of the model.

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So, what did that entail?

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Here's what that looked like.

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I always talk about changes

step by step, little by little.

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If you have followed me for probably

just about any amount of time, you've

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probably heard me talk about this.

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I talk a lot about iteration.

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Just start.

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Doing something is better than nothing.

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Like, just take a step, a small step,

whatever that looks like for you.

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Toward whatever thing you're moving

toward, you know, just begin, right?

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Do something, not nothing.

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And progress, not perfection.

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That's another one I talk about a lot.

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For me, I thought, okay, that's what this

is gonna, that's what it's gonna take.

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You just gotta start moving.

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That meant finding ways to

make my time more scalable.

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I thought, okay, I need to reduce

the number of one on ones I do.

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That includes number one on ones

with individuals plus the number

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of one on ones with organizations.

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Point two for me on this was

I said, Aubrey, you cannot

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give away your time for free.

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And that meant, you know, the old model

of the business was, was doing that.

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It was intake calls, for example, or

writing proposals that may never even

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result in contract work agreement, right?

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It meant.

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Sometimes giving away time for free

was letting people, you know, pick

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my brain when they reach out to me.

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I was realizing, you know, contributing

to the problem I was having with my

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time not scaling, and I needed to stop.

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Reframe how I view my time so

that I could reallocate that

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time to serving more people.

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Okay.

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I said, also, I need to find a

way to reduce that on site work.

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I was doing lots of long haul model

trainings, and honestly, probably

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about like 95 percent of the content

was mostly the same for everyone.

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I thought, okay, clearly there's

redundancy there that I can figure

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out how to streamline better.

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I was looking at, in terms of time,

making time more scalable, managing my

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digital presence, my own digital content.

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I had gotten better over the years at

getting more efficient, at developing

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processes that streamlined, but I

knew I needed to keep iterating on

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that one, really finding kind of the

next way, next step, to improve that

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piece of my And again, I had just

written a whole chapter on that.

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I, what is that chapter?

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Three, I think, is all about

digital content driving the desire

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for our services and products.

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So I had just come off of writing

that chapter, reading the research,

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consuming way more case studies

than even made it into the book.

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And I just realized this was an area

not just ripe for improvement, but

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an area I was under investing in.

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I had decided.

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I wrote a blog article that's now

kind of fast forwarding just a few

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months ago on overcoming scarcity

mindset and investing even when you

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think you don't have enough resources.

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So anybody who read that blog

article, when did that come out?

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March or maybe March of

this year, I'm thinking.

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But anyways, put a pin in that is

the point because we'll come back to

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it as I talk about building out the

team to support these strategies.

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But just know for now, I knew that

digital content was a strategy

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that had paid off in years past.

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I literally started my business.

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It was 10 years ago as a side

hustle because of the blog content

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I was creating at the time.

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So I knew that content was effective

and that it was going to continue to be

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part of the model going forward, but I

just knew that it was time for kind of

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that next iteration, whatever I could

figure out what that would look like.

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Moving on though, other parts of

my business, speaking engagements.

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That was one of two things I

already had as part of my offerings

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that were already one to many.

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And, you know, anytime you get

on stage in front of a group

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of people, that's one to many.

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It's also something that I

generally really like, so

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wanted to keep that in the mix.

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The other thing, I said there were two

things that were already one too many,

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the other was my up level course, which

used to be called Summer Up Level,

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I'll talk about iterating, before

that it was the Young Professionals

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Leadership Development course, through

those iterations I already had done.

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Leading up to 2022, three iterations

of proof of concept of this

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online one to many model working.

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And then also the

Comeback Planning Sprint.

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For anybody who did that in 2021,

that was my OG course online.

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So for anybody who did the Comeback

Planning Sprint in:

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I still think about the cohort.

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I did two cohorts of that

and you all were wonderful.

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All of that means that I already had been

doing some one to many work offerings.

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I wanted to continue to build on

that, build on what was working there.

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Again, iteration, what's the next

version of this to level up for me?

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Here are the different

offerings I came up with.

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Knowing me, I will likely

continue to iterate and evolve.

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And of course, that's going to happen.

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But here's where I started.

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Given all of that that I just laid out for

you, I decided to make my flagship program

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the Run It Like a Business Academy.

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The material I was sharing over and

over again in that one on one consulting

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work, the long haul model, anything

else people were asking of me, All

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of that, I was like, okay, this is

how we're going to reconfigure this

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and package this up to scale better.

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And here's one more added problem

that I wanted to solve for

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as I was moving this forward.

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That problem is that I had found over the

last five years of doing the in person

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consulting work, one on one, I say one

on one, like going to an organization,

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doing the workshops, is that organizations

wanted to bring me in, and I would go,

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usually for like a two day kind of a

workshop or retreat, and After five

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years of that I realized I don't think

I can foster lasting change, sustainable

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change, lasting impact in two days.

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Over the years, maybe even longer

than five years, because so much

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of this started as a side hustle

before I ever left my full time job.

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running the orchestra.

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And so just seeing that again

and again was plaguing me a

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little bit, I think, is the word.

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And I realized that I need to be more of

a guide, not a get in, get out, right?

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I talk so much, here we are again, talk

so much about being iterative, going step

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by step, building organizational muscle,

pilot testing, and then building on that.

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And I had just come to the conclusion that

Workshop is the opposite of that, right?

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Like you just don't see, or at

least I wasn't seeing real change

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that way in the way I wanted to.

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I want the organizations and people I

work with to be successful, to crush it.

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I saw that I needed to offer the

material in a different way and plenty of

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organizations were having some success,

but I just wanted, I wanted more.

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I hope this is making sense.

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Like, you know, I just, Sometimes

you get hungry for more, right?

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I wanted organizations to be able to

just like run, fly, not hear what I

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had to say, feel warm and fuzzy and

inspired for a couple days, and then

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go right back to doing what they were

doing because they didn't have all

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the tools they needed to continue

going on their own without me there.

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So more of a guide, not

get in, get out, right?

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Guide, not consultant,

really, is what I would say.

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Putting all this back together,

this Run It Like a Business

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Academy became my vehicle to help

organizations apply the top business

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strategies I've become known for.

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step by step.

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It's also the primary vehicle to move

that consulting work at organizations I

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used to do on a one on one, org by org

basis, now to this one to many model.

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Lastly, it's my top vehicle for

serving organizations going forward.

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And this is really important for people

to know about me and my business now.

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I want ongoing success with me

by their side, by your side.

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Not get in and get out.

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Okay, maybe this is worth mentioning,

I guess, sometimes organizations did

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recognize their need for ongoing support.

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I would get these calls and I would

hear what they were asking and

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all I could think in my head was,

I don't want to be your surrogate

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executive director or your surrogate

marketing VP or something like that.

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on board with me with like a retainer

model to do some of that is pretty

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pricey for organizations anyways.

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And that's another problem I

needed to solve for were, you know,

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the budget constraints that are

so real for arts organizations.

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All of that, again, just supported

this idea of being an ongoing guide

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in a more lasting way than a workshop.

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All in a way that's scalable that

addressed, you know, a lot of the

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issues that we're talking about today.

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All the above issues of time.

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Okay, let's get into some of

these like content based outcomes.

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I knew organizations that work with

me want or need to learn things like

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how to understand their customer.

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How do you talk like they talk?

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How do you know what they want and need in

order to maximize the customer experience?

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How do you make your website

convert at higher rates for people?

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Already coming there, right?

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You start making more money when

you convert more of the people

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already visiting your website.

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How do you make them decide to have a

transaction to purchase or to donate?

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How do you make your website

more newcomer friendly?

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How do you retain the patrons

you're already getting?

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Less churn, more repeat revenue.

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That's all my long haul model stuff

that I was doing so much work on already

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and really have become known for.

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What do you do when you

do get more new people?

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So you're not starting from scratch,

but you're, you know, adding on to

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the people you've already retained

and really spin up that flywheel.

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I now say like, wow, retention

is like compound interest.

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That was one of the topics

to try to get in there.

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How do you get more subscribers?

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How do you make a strong

onboarding program?

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How do you stop doing backwards renewals

and stop opting everybody out for them?

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If you don't know what I'm talking

about, there's a previous episode this

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season where I talk about all this.

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But how do you roll all that out so

everyone stays happy, everyone meeting

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our customers, and it's easy and seamless,

and the long timers are good too?

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That's not just happenstance when it

works out that way, it's strategy.

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How do you make the house

look sold even when it's not?

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I don't talk about pricing

strategy at all in the book.

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So for me, it's too specific

for the reader audience.

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According to my publisher, I don't

think they were wrong necessarily.

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But it is something really important for.

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Arts managers dealing

with pricing all the time.

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You know the language, so I wanted

to make sure I was teaching,

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you know, how to price well.

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When can you dial it up?

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How do you keep accessible pricing as

part of your strategy in a way that

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drives demand, not blocks other revenue?

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And of everything I talk about and all my

content I put out there, I think I, I only

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cover pricing strategy in the academy.

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I'm saying this out loud

and kind of pausing.

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Is that correct?

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But I, I think that's true.

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But the point is, like, I don't talk

about pricing a lot except in the

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academy because it's just something

that's such a, like a teaching thing.

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But anyways, how do you, another

topic, how do you write or

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design patron retention materials

that actually do the trick?

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Like what exactly do you say?

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What's the psychology?

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behind driving people to action

to buy tickets and donate money.

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I knew organizations needed to

learn or wanted to learn how to plan

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great donor content that doesn't

conflict with what the marketing

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people are sending out, right?

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Like, how often does that happen?

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So I needed to incorporate

that into my curriculum.

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And how do you make your digital content

and social media support all of those

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things I've already mentioned so that they

are aligned and elevating everything else

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you're doing, not sort of a side strategy.

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in the corner or something.

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All of that, all of those things I just

rattled off, that all became the backbone

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of the curriculum for the academy.

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How did I set this up?

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What did I do with that?

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So all of that became the academy.

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Very quickly, what's the setup then?

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How did I try to bring it home

and bring it all together?

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One to many means I made an online

course, video lessons on all of

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those topics, top revenue generating

strategies I've become known for.

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It's all the things I would teach when I

would go on site somewhere, which comes

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down to customer experience, patron

retention, digital content, supporting

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all of that, if I had to boil it down.

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I knew, as I said, from my

client work that teams and

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organizations need more support.

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So I decided to make the resource library.

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And Every template, every checklist I

have, every cheat sheet, how to document.

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Spreadsheet, Standard Operating

Procedure, everything I have and

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have used, basically I made this SOP,

Standard Operating Procedure, repository

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for the clients and organizations and

people I work with in the Academy.

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And then lastly, for this ongoing

support guide that I wanted to be

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able to do somehow, I wanted this live

component with me because videos alone

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will get you far, but I thought, you

know, this real time interaction felt

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important to me to be able to offer.

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I came up with these

live sessions with me.

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I call it office hours, and we

meet twice a month doing that.

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People can come, participants bring their

questions, sometimes they bring materials.

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Can you look at this?

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Let's talk about what's the

psychology behind this to motivate,

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whether it's sales or donations.

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So we do that, and we talk it

through and things like that.

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And then I also knew, coming off the

book, I'll wrap this up, but I knew that

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all of those strategies were in there,

but in the book I could only go so deep.

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So this is kind of similar to what I was

saying about the pricing conversation.

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Book is, you know, it's at a level that

there's a reader audience that's broad,

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you know, it could be arts managers,

it could be people like you listening,

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it could be artists, could be board

members, could be general audience

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members who have an interest in arts and

culture and wanted to learn about some

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of the business side of it all, right?

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And so that's a lot of

different constituents.

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I wanted to still be able to meet the

need for organizations that Wanted

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training, wanted tools, wanted the

strategies, but really needed and

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wanted more of the deeper dive than

what, than what the book could offer.

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So trying to solve for all

those things, called it the

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Run It Like a Business Academy.

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And I spent months building that out.

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I told you it was almost all of 2023.

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It really was through the end of

:

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By happenstance through the LinkedIn

Creator Accelerator program.

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I was in that program in 2021.

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I had met someone who was an

editor for Masterclass, Alex.

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I hired him to help me

bring this all to life.

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So I did the curriculum.

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Alex produced it, directed it,

brought in his team for lighting.

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Camera operators, you know, editing,

all of that was just him and his

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masterclass level experience.

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And so he crushed it, in my opinion.

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He did such great work and just made a

product I'm really proud of and helps

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the goal of serving more people, still

offering that real time live interaction

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and support and giving that entire

resource library so people have the

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tools at the ready, all in order to help.

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Arts organizations grow audiences,

grow your donor base, grow your

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revenue in a sustainable way

that is way more executable than

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a two day, one off workshop.

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May I change all that eventually?

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Yeah, probably.

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Did it fill a need?

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Yeah, I think several of them

and addressed some challenges I

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was having in my own business.

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Okay, that's kind of the rundown on that.

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I'll just briefly mention

the up level course.

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I won't say a lot because that one was

already in existence, as I mentioned.

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It was online and scalable from

the beginning, and I realized

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that model was largely working.

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The differentiator, though, is that

where the academy is really for revenue

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generation within an organization,

individuals can participate, too,

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but it's really designed for the

strategies to be implemented within.

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In organizational context,

no matter the size.

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But the up level was always for

individuals wanting to up level themself.

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That's career development,

no matter your role.

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It's managing up, managing laterally,

how to advance to the next role,

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the next step, the next phase.

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Leadership skills, no matter

somebody's Title or seniority.

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That's everyone from students about

to graduate and enter the workforce

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to entry level to mid career to

aspiring executive directors, current

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executive directors, senior staff.

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I mean, so all of those different places

and steps in our career, it's really

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meant to do leadership development

training no matter where you're at.

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And then there's a group

coaching component.

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With that as well.

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So that one, like I said, worked

really well for the past several years

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and already had that one to many.

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All the way down to the group

coaching as part of that.

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Yeah, so this year I guess I should

say the only change I made is that

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it used to be called Summer Up Level.

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Now it's just Up Level.

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I can offer it at different

times during the year.

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Right now the plan for 2024 is to not do

it in the summer but to do it in the fall.

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So the wait list is open for

anybody who wants to get in on that.

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But the idea is that the name change

offers some flexibility there.

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That's on my website, AubreyBergauer.

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com slash uplevel, if that's of interest.

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But what I want to talk about really now

is the changing the narrative community.

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Addressing another challenge was that

I wanted a lower level entry point,

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lower price entry point for folks.

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I mentioned the membership economy

and writing that chapter in my

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book really had me thinking.

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I saw the opportunities with all the

membership economy research I read and

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just all the opportunities it brings

for businesses in literally every

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sector, like any type of business

in any industry Membership economy.

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I just saw the benefits.

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I just got so thirsty.

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I don't know what else to say to

try to put this into practice.

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I always try to do that

in everything I do.

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It's so important to me

to practice what I preach.

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I wanted to explore a recurring

revenue membership for my own business.

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I thought, I can't talk about

these concepts with others

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unless I'm really living them.

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out myself.

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Anyways, it also continued to

address this one to many model.

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I put together this

idea of this membership.

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It includes monthly professional

development events on topics related

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to the field, the future of work,

career advancement, basically topics

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I personally care about and wanted an

outlet for outside of what I was teaching

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in the academy and up level courses.

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It does also come with monthly

open office hours with me.

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It also provided a way for me

to address the challenge of not

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giving away my time for free.

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So there's a whole other lesson here

in like, how do we value our time?

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And I so badly want to

be helpful to people.

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I want our field to succeed so

badly that it was a real tension

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I felt, if I'm being honest.

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A tension that, you know, as I was redoing

the business model thinking, how do I,

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how try to serve people who reach out and

have, you know, just random questions on

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this or that and want to talk about it.

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Yet, I'm trying to find this way

to make my time more scalable.

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So, office hours and the

Changing the Narrative community

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gave me the vehicle for that.

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I have to say, while I'm being honest

here, I just felt so liberated once I

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started rolling that out because instead

of turning people away, you know, I'm

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too busy or nicely trying to say that

or the schedule's jammed or whatever.

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Now, it gave me this opportunity

to offer the best, easiest,

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cheapest way to meet with me.

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It's literally only 10 to join.

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So, so if somebody doesn't value

my time at that, then fine, they

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can help themselves to all the free

content I put out regularly, which

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is still true to my mission to change

the narrative for the industry.

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All of that became the community.

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We also have this networking

and connection component.

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It's, I would say, the last piece of the

changing the narrative community trifecta.

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It's professional development.

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It's the real time.

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access to me and being able

to just have that resource.

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And then the third piece is

this networking and connection.

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It started as quarterly networking

events, like more kind of virtual group

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events when we launched in early 2023.

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And just side note, we launched by

me sending an invitation to just past

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clients and past course participants.

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And I said, we're going to do a

past participant reunion in this

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new community I'm launching.

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Come join if you want.

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That's how we began.

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So that was, I think, I

think that was January:

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We had maybe 20 members or so who joined

then just at that invitation, and we kept

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growing and adding people every month.

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And then last summer, to get back

to this networking and connection

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piece, Alana, you're going to hear

me talk more about her in a moment

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when I share more about my team.

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Alana, at the time, summer of 2023,

had the idea to launch Coffee Club.

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Instead of quarterly networking,

which honestly I think felt a little

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pandemic- y, these like quarterly

virtual networking events, a little

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lockdown- y, you know what I mean?

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She said, Aubrey, I just

want to connect with others.

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She said, I'm more of an introvert.

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So can we do monthly one on one

matches for people who want that?

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Like low key, I just kind of want

a little bit of one on one, meet

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people, and we can do these quick

Zoom chats to get to know other folks

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who, who have, you know, raised their

hand and said, I want to be here.

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I said, I love this.

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Do you want to lead that?

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And she was like, yeah, I'm in.

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So now we're about to hit

a year of Coffee Club.

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And at the end of year survey last

year, Coffee Club was one of the highest

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rated features of the entire community.

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That brings me to the final thing I want

to share on this idea of the community,

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which is, whereas I talk about so much

of what's important to my business model

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now is one to many, What I've learned

about communities and memberships is that

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they thrive when they are many to many.

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That is where it gets

super exciting to me.

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It's not just Aubrey and

a bunch of other people.

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It's all of us kind of serving each other.

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I don't know if that sounds

hokey, but this is a great example

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:

where the idea came from within.

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She said she wanted to lead it.

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Now it's one of the most popular

features of the whole community.

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Like that's many to many, or

at least a way that plays out.

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So.

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That's super exciting to me.

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And yeah, everybody's welcome there,

whether artist or administrator,

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that's the, that's the community.

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Speaking, that's still

a big part of what I do.

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That did not change

with the business model.

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As I said, it was already one to

many and this year, it's a big part

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:

of the business with the book tour,

just a lot of speaking right now.

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:

All of that rounds out the offerings

and how I've moved things to serve

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:

more people to scale up is the

way to summarize it, to scale.

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:

Okay, that's the summary of kind of the

what's been going on, what's happened,

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:

year and a half of making that change.

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And I just thought it was hopefully, like

I said, helpful to somebody to hear how

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that took place and how that unfolded.

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Now what?

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:

Now it's a year and a half later.

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So, As you scale, it turns out, you

do serve more people, and that is good

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:

news, but the downstream effect of that

is that eventually it was no longer

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:

feasible for me to be a team of one.

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:

which I never expected to be

in a place to grow the team.

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:

I just really thought I was going

to be a solopreneur kind of forever

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:

until I started putting this new model

together, which just opened my brain

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:

to the idea of scaling and, and growing

the business in a different way.

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The scaling started to work.

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We started serving more people.

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We started growing.

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And by mid 2023, I really started

seeing the need for a team

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to support this work better.

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:

For me, I have to say, that is one of

the most fulfilling things is being

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:

part of a team, and it is one of the

things I miss the most from the other

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:

jobs I've had leading the organization.

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:

When I was running the orchestra and

just having a team of people, like

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:

that, I miss that more than any,

like the team more than anything.

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So here we are.

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:

So building the team, I thought I

would just quickly run down the who's

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:

who and what role and how kind of the

evolution of how that was built out.

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:

First up was editing the podcast.

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:

That's Molly and Sarita and Daria.

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You hear on every podcast

episode about Novo Music.

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Daria Novo is the founder there,

and they're an all female team

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of musicians and audio engineers.

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:

So they were already on the team

since:

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season two of the podcast.

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:

So content, right?

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:

You heard me say digital

content, super important.

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:

So rolling out the podcast was, for me, a

lot project and experiment in:

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:

That's when I launched it.

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:

And at the time I did it all myself.

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:

That was a model of MVP.

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:

So MVP, if anybody doesn't know that,

that's a real like Silicon Valley phrase.

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:

I'm here in San Francisco, but MVP

is minimum viable product when you're

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:

talking about Not like sports, but

instead talking about business models.

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:

So MVP for the podcast was me doing

season one by myself, but that was,

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:

well, I was going to say it was a

bad idea, but it was a good idea in

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:

terms of a pilot project in terms of

something sustainable going forward.

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:

It's not my skillset, not my strong suit.

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:

So in 2022, I brought in.

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:

Daria and Molly and Sarita to help edit

the podcast and yes, as many of you

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:

have said, it's so much better now.

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:

So fast forward, summer

of:

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importance of digital content.

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:

I mentioned social media and

I said we'd come back to that.

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:

In summer of 2023, one of my past

course participants reached out,

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:

Johanna, and Johanna had participated

in my comeback planning sprint.

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:

So I mentioned that was my

very first online course, the

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:

OG online course I offered.

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:

She reached out to me before I was

bold enough to get over my own scarcity

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:

mindset and start scaling the team.

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:

So I said we would come back

to this also, my own scarcity

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:

mindset and overcoming that.

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:

I mentioned, you know, I said I thought

I'd be a solopreneur forever, and I now

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:

realize that was my own limiting belief.

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:

I thought I needed to wait until I

had made more money, until I could

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:

hire somebody full time, until,

until, until, and that is scarcity

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:

mindset talking, I now realize.

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:

So the truth is You don't have

to hire somebody full time.

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:

The truth is I was

drowning and needed help.

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:

And when she reached out in

summer of:

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:

this, but her pitch was so good.

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:

Like we have to pause and I

have to tell you how hardened

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:

I am to marketing pitches.

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:

I've been doing this long enough

that like, you know, the emails

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:

come in and I'm like, Nope, delete.

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:

Nope.

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:

Block.

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:

No.

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:

You know, I just am so

hardened to marketing pitches,

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:

but her pitch was so good.

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:

Just really caught my attention and

I could tell she was understanding

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:

my brand and what I was trying to do.

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:

So we started with a very small

arrangement that I thought, honestly,

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:

she knows this too, but I thought

it was gonna go through the book

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:

launch in February of this year.

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:

That was last summer.

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:

By December, so fast forward just a couple

of months of working together, and I said,

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:

I want to put you on a bigger contract.

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:

That was a big move for me to

overcome that scarcity mindset and

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:

decide to make a modest investment

and bring experts alongside me.

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:

Anybody, if you haven't read

that blog post, go look it up.

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:

It's called Why Scarcity Mindset

is Killing Your Arts Organization.

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:

This is just, this story I'm telling

is not in there, but it's just such a

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:

example of, yes, I face these things

too and, and try to overcome them too.

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:

She, I will say, talking about bringing

experts alongside you, she is the

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:

single best social media strategist in

arts and culture I have seen, period.

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:

Hands down.

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:

For anybody who's followed me since last

summer, July, August:

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:

something you saw online, that's her work.

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:

So to give credit where

credit's due, that's Johanna.

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:

And when you hear me mention classical

content in the podcast promotion

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:

credits, for example, that's her.

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:

I talk a lot, it's a whole chapter in

my book, on digital content, using that

742

:

to support our work, to drive trust

in the organization and the brand,

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and ultimately, through that trust

and trust building, you drive sales.

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That's another area where I just have

really tried to iterate, up level, get

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better at practicing what I preach, using

content strategically and effectively.

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And, of course, it was so important to

scaling up the work, serving more people.

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So I still produce content,

too, for what it's worth.

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Here I am recording the podcast.

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I still write blog articles.

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You've heard me talk about

them in this episode.

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I do the outline.

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I do the talking points.

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I develop all the talks I give.

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I'm still super, super involved in

developing content, but the social

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strategy behind it is all her.

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Okay.

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Alana.

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You already heard me mention Alana

because she runs Coffee Club in the

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Changing the Narrative community.

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But she is also a past client

and past course participant.

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She's done the up level, she was already

very active in the community, and she and

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I worked together at an organization that

had brought me in a few years ago now.

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We had done some one on one

work together along the way, so

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just lots of ways I'd had these

interactions with her over the years.

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And Alana is now a data analyst.

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She has undergone training

in the last few years.

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Really talk about up leveling,

really up leveling those skills.

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So as things started to scale for

me, and in combination with moving

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so much of the business online, it

meant that things were trackable.

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And if you know me, I am

data, data, data all the way.

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And this was yet another area where Of

course, I want to practice what I preach.

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The more things moved online, the more

data there was, the more people came into

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my universe, the changing the narrative

universe, the more data to track, the

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more the tech stack grew, you know,

on and on, more systems to integrate.

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So January of this year, I reached

out to Alana and I said, Hey, you

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want to come be the analyst here?

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Do you want to come be our

analyst for all things data?

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She said yes.

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So from Google Analytics to

systems integration, my data

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loving self is so happy.

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I have somebody coming

alongside working on this now.

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And I think hiring Alana, first I had

Johanna and then Alana, had the podcast

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editors in place already before that.

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I think Alana is where I broke the

dam of scarcity mindset for me.

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I could see.

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So clearly, suddenly, I know it's probably

not suddenly, right, but I could see so

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clearly how investing in better data and

better analytics will grow things for us.

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And I am now all in on this

and just could not be happier.

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So speaking of systems and

growth and growing pains.

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I'm going to mention this.

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I know it's pretty in the weeds, but we

had to migrate to a new email platform.

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Okay, why am I sharing this?

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Because so many of you ask me about

systems and email programs and CRMs

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and oh, we just went through all that

migration in the last few months.

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Basically, Long story short, the old

system wasn't working anymore, we had

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outgrown it, it wasn't supporting the new

business model that I just outlined for

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you like I needed, et cetera, et cetera.

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So if you want details on my tech stack,

again, it's, it's the download to go with

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this episode to give all the details on

the different tools and programs I like,

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and then I'll share more on how you can

get that again at the end of the episode.

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Migrations are always a ton of work,

but so worth it for us so we can

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provide a better customer experience.

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So, right, I am thinking

about these things all the

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time, even in my own business.

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To wrap this part on email migration

up, that brings me to the next hire.

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I guess wrapping up email migration

and breaking the dam of scarcity

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mindset, my next hire was Jamie.

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So for Jamie, this was different.

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The other folks had all come

into my network before, right?

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They were past course participants.

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Daria and Molly, I had met

in a past professional job.

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Jamie though, I went through a firm.

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I knew that I needed help, not just

migrating over a lot of my email

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automations, but we had and still have

a lot of emails coming down the pike.

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And email support, email

marketing is what Jamie's doing.

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I knew that as we were

doing the migration, we were

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getting better at segmenting.

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That means more versions

of different emails needed.

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It means as we were producing more

and more content, you already heard

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me talk about, that means more to

put into the weekly newsletter.

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Like it was just more, more,

more, another way of scaling.

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I just knew that I needed support here.

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I knew that these next few months

were a juncture to really get the

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email marketing in better place.

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Like, doing the whole migration and

fixing all of that, up leveling all that,

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just made that juncture happen, right?

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:

So I brought on an experienced person who

had done so much email marketing before

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and had a really great track record.

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:

Like I said, I went through a firm.

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I've included them in the doc for this

episode because it turned out so well.

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So if you want the details for anybody

who needs like some temporary or contract

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marketing support, totally recommend.

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I would keep Jamie forever if I could.

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Some of you reply to my emails,

like when you get an email blast

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:

in your inbox, some of you reply.

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:

And just know, like, Jamie

wrote that and inspired whatever

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:

action that was from you.

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:

If you're listening to this

episode because you clicked on the

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email, like, she wrote it, right?

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:

Anyways, like I said, I would

keep Jamie forever if I could.

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:

Maybe someday, eventually,

I'll be able to do that.

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:

But I mentioned this for anybody

listening who does want or need some

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:

sort of temporary marketing support,

get the download for the episode

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:

because I'm just so happy that I

went with the firm and It just, I was

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:

skeptical, but wow, now I'm a believer.

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:

So okay, moving on, along

the way, I brought on Kelle.

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A lot of online business owners

will tell you that your first hire

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should be a VA, a virtual assistant.

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I've heard that, like, preached

so much by so many people,

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and I see the logic in that.

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Administrative support is so

critical, delegating is so critical,

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and I'm a big believer in that.

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:

Kelle.

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As the chief executive, there

are things that only I can do.

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And I give this advice all the

time to new executive directors.

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:

They're like, I'm drowning, Aubrey.

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I talk a lot about it

in the up level course.

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Like, we have got to, as chief executives,

do the things that only we can do.

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That is where we need to prioritize.

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:

Spending our time.

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So that means we've got to

bring in support along the way.

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:

Administrative support, project

support is so important in that.

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:

And I knew I needed to do that too.

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:

I also knew the reason I didn't make VA my

first hire, like I said, I see the logic

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:

in that, but I also knew I wanted revenue

generating positions in place first.

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So that's everybody you

heard me talk about already.

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And then I brought Kelle into the mix.

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Kelle is now the grease that

keeps the gears turning.

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I kind of hem and haw.

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Did I wait too long?

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I'm not sure, but I think

the timing was right for me.

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And now that the business

is really growing this year.

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:

I'm just so glad to have her on the

team and she's brought so much value, so

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:

for anyone who puts off tasks, you can

delegate because you think it's easier,

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:

cheaper, whatever to just do it yourself.

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:

I've been there, but let me be the

one to give you permission to bring

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in the support you need, whether you

are an executive director at an arts

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:

organization or founder of an ensemble

or any other role where you know that,

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:

yeah, support is, is a good thing.

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:

I went through a firm to find Kelle too.

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:

I was, again, nervous, a little

skeptical about that at first, but it

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:

turns out in addition to all of her

excellent project management skills,

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relationship skills, attention to

detail, to keep all things running,

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:

like all of those things, it turns

out she also played piano growing up.

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And just like everyone else on the

team, believes in the mission to

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change the narrative for classical

music for arts and culture.

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I'm just so glad we were matched,

and now I just can't imagine

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not having her on the team.

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Last one as I'm going through the

who's who and how we've, you know,

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divided the labor and work ahead of us.

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:

The last one and newest team member

to introduce you to is Jeremy.

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:

Jeremy still has his full time job.

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:

He runs marketing at an orchestra.

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He is also a conductor.

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:

That makes him exceptionally qualified,

that combination, for what I brought

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him on to do, which is client support.

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:

Jeremy is also a past participant

in several of my programs.

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:

He did the up level, then he got

his organization to join the Run

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:

It Like a Business Academy, and

then he joined the community.

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Because of all of that, he's

super qualified to do client

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support, and there is definitely

a growing need for client support.

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:

I get a lot of questions from

people about, you know, am

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:

I ready to do your program?

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:

What does it look like for me and my team?

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:

How can we implement these strategies

when we don't have tons of time?

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:

Right?

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:

That kind of thing.

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:

And I realized that I think people

are better served when they can hear

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from somebody who's been there, right?

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:

Somebody who's done it, somebody who's

lived it, and answered those questions for

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:

themselves and for their own organization.

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Plus, he really knows the art form,

or at least knows orchestras and

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:

classical music, which is who I

Mostly serve, even though I love

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:

that other types of organizations

are who I also get to serve now.

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:

But the point is, he's been

there, he's done it, he knows the

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:

arts, and he knows the business.

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:

He knows my business as

well, from the client side.

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:

Now we're working on rolling out

some client support options that

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:

he is leading, so more to come on

all of that, but there you have it.

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:

That is a lot on how my business, how

changing the narrative, that's the actual

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:

legal name of my business, how we've grown

and evolved over the last year and a half.

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:

That's if you're listening to this, you

know, near when the episode comes out.

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:

I am One, just hoping this is

helpful to somebody listening.

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:

You know, if you're thinking about

scaling up or anything like that, I

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:

hope on a tactical level it's helpful

to hear that, but I'm also just really

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:

happy and excited by this iteration of

my work, and I'm just really excited

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:

to be helping more people this way.

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:

That's already proven true, and just

the idea that there's potential to

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:

serve more people than ever before.

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:

I didn't mention this one yet.

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I love that it costs the people I work

with, people, clients, organizations,

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:

that I work with, less now.

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:

Like I said, we didn't even talk

about this yet, but the beauty of

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:

models that scale is that you get

to pass that on to the consumer.

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:

So that's a bonus, too.

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:

And lastly, I I love the idea of

being more effective as a guide.

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:

Kind of coming full circle to the top

now, but that is just more possible

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:

now than it was five years ago in 2019

when I first went full time on my own.

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:

As we wrap up here, I hope

that hearing all of this was

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:

helpful to you in some way.

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:

Or maybe certain parts were

helpful to some of you and

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:

other parts helpful to others.

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:

But like I said, it's a little

bit of a different episode.

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:

And yet I still hope it inspires

you in your own journeys at

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:

your own organizations too.

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:

As we are all part of this

growing movement to, you

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:

know, change the narrative.

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:

Hey, offstagers, we covered a lot in this

episode that I don't normally talk about

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:

the infrastructure of my own business.

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From the people I hired to

the programs and tools I use.

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:

I have experimented a lot over the

years, and now I have my short list of

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:

favorite systems I rely on every day.

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:

And I assembled it all for you

because I get these questions a lot.

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:

What email program do you recommend?

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:

What do you use for project management?

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:

How or where did you

find qualified people?

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It's all in my total resource list, which

is a free download for you, detailing

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all of my favorite tools and programs and

services that might be helpful to you too.

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Go to my website, aubreybergauer.

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com slash 28.

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That's two eight for episode 28.

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And you can get my total resource list

to start making your work, your team's

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work, and even your organization's

work more efficient and productive.

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That's www.

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aubreybergauer.

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com.

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:

That's all for today, folks.

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Thanks so much for listening.

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And if you like what you heard

here, hit that button to follow

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or subscribe to this podcast.

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If you're new, welcome.

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I am so glad you made it.

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And if you've been listening for

a while, I loved so much that

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you were getting value from this.

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So if that's you, please take just

two seconds to leave a quick one tap

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rating, full on review Bye isn't even

required if you're short on time.

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To all of you once more, thanks again.

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I'll see you next time right

here on the Offstage Mic.

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The Offstage Mic was produced by me,

Aubrey Bergauer, and edited by Novo

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Music, an audio production company of

all women audio engineers and musicians.

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