In this insightful episode of The One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy welcomes Bill Walters to explore the intersection of financial planning, caregiving for aging parents, and entrepreneurial life. Bill Walters draws from personal experience to reveal how unexpected responsibilities caring for a parent can impact both business and personal well-being. The discussion dives into practical strategies for building a secure retirement, managing the challenges of the "sandwich generation," creating effective estate plans, and the crucial need for early conversations around care and family finances. Listeners will leave with actionable tips for protecting both their parents’ futures and their own.
Guest Bio:
Bill Walters is a seasoned financial strategist specializing in creating tax-free retirement solutions and helping families triple their savings within a decade. His expertise is rooted in his personal journey, where caring for an aging parent inspired him to help others avoid common pitfalls and emotional stressors associated with late-life transitions. An author of five books, Bill Walters is committed to empowering people with knowledge and practical tools to secure their golden years and achieve true peace of mind.
Chapters:
00:00 "Caring for Aging Parents"
03:45 "Entrepreneurs and Retirement Fund Growth"
08:16 Balancing Caregiving and Survival
09:33 "Discuss Aging Plans Early"
15:02 Estate Planning for Every Family
16:30 "Importance of Logical Support Boundaries"
19:26 "Planning to Avoid Family Burdens"
24:32 "Rock Climbing and Business Insights"
26:02 "Embrace Change, Stay Curious"
Quote from the Guest:
"You have to be organized. You just can't live paycheck to paycheck. One needs a budget, you need a retirement budget."
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Welcome to the One Small Change. I'm thrilled that you're here with us
Speaker:again this week on this journey of exploration and transformation.
Speaker:And I'm Your host, Yvonne McCoy and I bring almost 30 years of
Speaker:entrepreneurial experience and I have a passion for discovering
Speaker:growth through the power of seemingly small change. I want you
Speaker:to know that each week I try to bring you somebody interesting who's going to
Speaker:give you some insights on their small, unexpected
Speaker:or insignificant decision. Decision that sparked a remarkable
Speaker:transformation and growth in either their personal, their
Speaker:professional or both. And this week we are talking with the
Speaker:amazing Bill Walters. Hi, Bill. Hey, Yvonne.
Speaker:Thank you so much for having me as a guest. I really appreciate the opportunity
Speaker:to get to know your audience as well as you. Well,
Speaker:I have to tell you that, that you're talking about
Speaker:a topic that I think is great. Kind of
Speaker:the imperfect family and
Speaker:entrepreneurs. Not only do we have a very weird life, but we also
Speaker:have that imperfect family. So I would love for you to
Speaker:share what you do and also
Speaker:what happened that made you go in that direction makes you really good at what
Speaker:you do. Sure, no problem. So what
Speaker:I do is I help people money fest
Speaker:or create a lifestyle in retirement
Speaker:where they achieve maximum productivity
Speaker:and that's either income tax free savings or
Speaker:tripling. And I did say that we're tripling their savings
Speaker:from their old 401k or
Speaker:529 plan or whatever plan that they have in place
Speaker:in 10 years. And so how
Speaker:I got started, it's pretty simple.
Speaker:My mom was on her
Speaker:caretaking process for my dad
Speaker:for many, many years. And while my dad was on his deathbed,
Speaker:he reached up and grabbed me and in his
Speaker:navy way and said, take care of mom. And I said, yeah dad, I got
Speaker:this. And then he really grabbed me hard and said no.
Speaker:I said take care of mom. And I said, yeah dad, I heard
Speaker:you the first time. I didn't know what he really meant by that.
Speaker:And so when he passed and my mom aged 10 years,
Speaker:she didn't have a long term care plan in place. I was it.
Speaker:And she just plopped herself on my couch and never left.
Speaker:And I was left with the responsibility of selling her house,
Speaker:consolidating her, her ownership of
Speaker:things and creating a long term
Speaker:care plan for her that was not only
Speaker:new to me, but I made a lot of mistakes out of love.
Speaker:And in the, in the six year span that she spent,
Speaker:there was no regrets, but I learned the importance and
Speaker:the difference of removing fall risks and
Speaker:having everything on one floor. So there's no stairs or steps
Speaker:and bed alarms and
Speaker:adult incontinence diapers. And the differences between them and
Speaker:having people come into the house as personal care assistants
Speaker:to do bathing and general household cleaning up after her, because
Speaker:I always knew what room she was in because there was always a trail of
Speaker:crumbs from either cookies or pretzels. And
Speaker:so I learned all these things and I could shorten them up
Speaker:into a 20 minute conversation so that you don't make the same mistakes
Speaker:out of love that I did. All right, so this is what I want to
Speaker:do. I know the people that are listening to this
Speaker:introduction because they're mainly entrepreneurs, is saying,
Speaker:what does this have to do with me? Do you know what?
Speaker:I don't get it. Okay. And one of the reasons that
Speaker:we connected is because I had that experience as well
Speaker:at being an entrepreneur. And so the thing that I want
Speaker:to say to people is the first thing that you said was
Speaker:I can grow your retirement fund. So there may be some
Speaker:who have never worked for a corporation or. And have a
Speaker:retirement fund that this might. I don't know whether what you do is
Speaker:applicable to anybody who wants to set up their own retirement fund.
Speaker:I don't. Yes. So it. So if you have just general
Speaker:savings or money in a bank or money
Speaker:that's not really earning true
Speaker:interest beyond or above inflation,
Speaker:then I would be the guy that can really make a difference in
Speaker:that gameplay. And there's two strategies. There's a tax
Speaker:deferred strategy and there's a tax free strategy.
Speaker:And doesn't on both of these, they're not
Speaker:limited by age. So you could be
Speaker:10 or you could be 85 and still
Speaker:they would work. All right, so here's the other part that I
Speaker:think where there's the overlap and that is
Speaker:if. If you are an entrepreneur and you have an aging
Speaker:parent, you are stepping into
Speaker:some totally unknown stuff. Yes.
Speaker:Right. And you're doing it at a time when
Speaker:you're stepping into unknown stuff in
Speaker:your business, which means that your life without some kind
Speaker:of guardrails, some kind of insight, some kind of advice
Speaker:is going to be a whirlwind that you did not
Speaker:expect and cannot anticipate
Speaker:the things that are going to come up. You mentioned
Speaker:you knew where your mother was because of the breadcrumbs.
Speaker:My mother. It was chocolate, it was candy
Speaker:wrappers. Right. And you know, the thing
Speaker:is that this is the parent that raised us
Speaker:and we love them very much,
Speaker:whether they're. I always say everybody has, you know, everybody
Speaker:has a mother, whether she's an angel or a devil. We all have mothers.
Speaker:Right? Exactly. However, it
Speaker:seems to me that as every parent ages,
Speaker:they become more demanding and they're just more things
Speaker:that happen at a time when you're trying to grow your business. So
Speaker:I'm going to let you talk about this and I will chime in with my
Speaker:own horror stories or whatever. But. But I wanted to
Speaker:make that connection because I didn't want people to hear the beginning of the
Speaker:podcast and say, well, what does this have to do with entrepreneurship?
Speaker:And what I say to people is, you have 24
Speaker:hours. That includes your entrepreneur business and
Speaker:your personal life. And when you have to take care of your
Speaker:parents as well as your own family, if you're
Speaker:in that sandwich generation, God bless you because I've lived
Speaker:through that. And it's
Speaker:demanding, requires a lot from you. So go Bill.
Speaker:So it's very demanding. It's very, very
Speaker:demanding. Right. Because what happens
Speaker:is that you have to be aware of doctor's
Speaker:appointments and actually go on them or send someone who's reliable to take the
Speaker:notes to actually hear what's going on. And you
Speaker:have to do the medicine allocation and make sure that it's taken at the right
Speaker:time, then the
Speaker:therapy, if needed, as well as making sure that
Speaker:mom slash dad is drinking enough liquids, because if they don't drink
Speaker:enough liquids, they become dehydrated and they start seeing things like
Speaker:spots and having conversations with people that aren't there. And
Speaker:you also have the opposite end of it, which is
Speaker:cleanliness, which as you age, you don't feel like getting
Speaker:showered or bathed as much. And so that's why you need someone else
Speaker:to do that bathing three times a week so they stay clean,
Speaker:because you don't want urinary tract infections. And that's for both guys and
Speaker:girls. And so again, all these things are taken
Speaker:into account, plus pulse ox
Speaker:readings and weight readings. And because my mom had a heart condition, if
Speaker:she gained three pounds overnight, it just meant that her heart
Speaker:wasn't working properly and we had to get the liquid out. So you do all
Speaker:these things that are concerned with mom at the same time. I have a
Speaker:daughter that's on the spectrum who be classified as
Speaker:special needs and a son add.
Speaker:And so when you're looking to do those things, manage
Speaker:those people, take them to their activities, manage moments
Speaker:and then run a business.
Speaker:You're trying to just maintain status quo, not even grow, because
Speaker:you're just trying to survive. You're trying to make it from
Speaker:wake up Time to going to sleep without making any mistakes
Speaker:for your current clients and still have a semblance of order
Speaker:and knowing when to hire personal care assistants so that
Speaker:you can do your job. All right, can I stop you right away?
Speaker:Yes. This is, I think, the biggest mistake
Speaker:that I see. So the first one is that we don't,
Speaker:you know, we don't know what we don't know. Yep. So if you have
Speaker:a parent who is, you know, I don't know what
Speaker:the right age is, but I would think mid-60s,
Speaker:70s, you need to have a conversation with them.
Speaker:You know, what is it that they want? You need to have a conversation with
Speaker:your siblings. I was very lucky,
Speaker:and I say that because you can't have this conversation early
Speaker:enough. Typically, by the time you realize that you need
Speaker:help, it's already too late. It has already caused
Speaker:havoc in your life. And I was lucky enough to have had a
Speaker:conversation with a family friend of ours
Speaker:who worked in the aging community, and he sat down with my brother, my sister
Speaker:and I, in a restaurant, like, in a neutral place,
Speaker:and said, what is it that you know, what is it that your parents want
Speaker:and what is it that you want? And my brother was like,
Speaker:put her in a nursing home. This was like, after my dad died, put her
Speaker:in a nursing home. And my sister's like, well, I'm not nearby.
Speaker:I leave it up to you guys. And I'm like, mom doesn't want to go
Speaker:to a nursing home. So it fell on me. And
Speaker:if that's going to happen, you need to know that sooner than later.
Speaker:You know, what, what, what kind of support you're going to get, whether
Speaker:it's going to be financial, whether it's going to be mental,
Speaker:whatever. So that's, that's probably
Speaker:my biggest thing. And to know that your parent is not. Is going
Speaker:to resist because they feel like you're taking away their
Speaker:independence and they're, you know, you're the child, they're the adult, they
Speaker:know better. So it is an uphill and something, sometimes very
Speaker:thankless job. I'm
Speaker:sorry I spouted. But, but no, it's, it's
Speaker:accurate because it's very
Speaker:thankless in the aspect that
Speaker:you don't know what, what you're doing
Speaker:until you're in it. But I can say this, that
Speaker:the gift back is that whether you
Speaker:have. I was the only child, so I didn't have a chance to
Speaker:get help or respite help. But when you
Speaker:take care of a mom, it's just the same way as you
Speaker:would that she did when. When you were a child, because
Speaker:she loved you and she took care of you. Well, now it's time to return
Speaker:the favor. Now, the best time to reach out to someone is
Speaker:in their 60s, because they're still cognizant. And you get their real
Speaker:dreams, and you get it in writing, and then you laminate it
Speaker:so they can't rip it when they're older, because you want to
Speaker:do exactly what their game plan is. So if their game plan is
Speaker:to stay home and they say, I didn't want this, or I didn't. I
Speaker:didn't sign up for this, and I'm like, yeah, you did. And you take
Speaker:it out and say, is that your signature? Well, yeah. Is that your
Speaker:handwriting? Yeah. And you asked for this. So
Speaker:we're giving you exactly what you asked for. And then they get mad, and that's
Speaker:why it's important to laminate it, because they can't rip it because it's their
Speaker:signature, and they made it when they were cognizant and sharp.
Speaker:So you're honoring that. And it's important because you're not throwing it in
Speaker:their face. You're not teasing them. You're just trying to give them
Speaker:the golden years to be truly golden. Yeah. And
Speaker:I think the other thing is,
Speaker:is to have a will. We haven't even
Speaker:gotten to that part yet. Oh, I. I'll wait on that part, though. But.
Speaker:But you know, the thing I think that I found that. I
Speaker:think you also need to be. Is you talked about doctor's
Speaker:appointments. You need to be an advocate for your parent.
Speaker:I mean, you know, unfortunately, there is
Speaker:ageism in the medical community. I
Speaker:mean, I. I went to the doctors and said, can you give. Can you
Speaker:up the dosage? My mother was in her 90s. Right.
Speaker:And I said, can you up the dosage on my mom's happy pill?
Speaker:Right. And he goes, has she.
Speaker:Has she talked about killing herself? And I said, no, she makes us
Speaker:want to kill ourselves. And he goes, have you thought about
Speaker:therapy? And I'm like, really? The woman is in her
Speaker:90s. I said, she doesn't have enough time left for
Speaker:therapy to kick in. I mean, and it sounded. It
Speaker:sounds harsh, but her life is better when she's happier, and
Speaker:so is ours. Just, you know, up the pills, because
Speaker:who's going to take her to this additional appointment that she
Speaker:doesn't want to go to to do something she doesn't want to do?
Speaker:And so you have to. You know, there's a certain point where you just have
Speaker:to be really realistic about what's possible.
Speaker:And the other thing about talking to your parents when
Speaker:they're still cognitive is. And I said this to you,
Speaker:you know, because both my parents lived to be 94.
Speaker:Social Security had two different birth dates for my dad
Speaker:and it took us a while to clear that up after he died.
Speaker:Then it turned out my parents were married for almost 70 years and my
Speaker:mother never changed her Social Security to her married name.
Speaker:That makes no sense. I mean, so you
Speaker:want to have take a look at those things before you need them,
Speaker:right? 100%. So you
Speaker:know what I tell people is an estate
Speaker:plan is really important. It's just not for the rich. And in an
Speaker:estate plan you include a medical care directive and a
Speaker:financial care directive. The person does the medical care
Speaker:directive is so that they can make the sound
Speaker:decisions not from the heart, but from the head when it comes to
Speaker:medical advice. Resuscitate, do not resuscitate,
Speaker:et cetera. And then the financial standpoint,
Speaker:you want to get power of attorney not to take mom
Speaker:and dad's money, but just so that they don't get scammed from
Speaker:somebody on the telephone, somebody that's a relative. And
Speaker:that's why I call perfectly imperfect families because I had that
Speaker:crazy uncle who knew my
Speaker:schedule and he used to stop by the house and have mom write him a
Speaker:check for $4,000 to cover his expenses
Speaker:just because he. So he would drop over a twelve
Speaker:dollar bouquet of flowers and walk away
Speaker:with, you know, three
Speaker:$988 worth
Speaker:of profit. And then I was like, you're stealing from your
Speaker:own sister, you have your own money. What are your. Well pays my expenses. And
Speaker:I'm like, no. So after he did it the third
Speaker:time, I took away the checks, okay? And
Speaker:I said there's no reason for it. So there's something that you
Speaker:said that, that I think may sound harsh
Speaker:but I think is really important. And that is this
Speaker:is a situation where you really
Speaker:need to have some logical boundaries. You need to
Speaker:have a logical someplace where you can help, where somebody
Speaker:can help you make logical decisions. Because
Speaker:emotionally you're going to be so wound up. I mean,
Speaker:you're dealing with your parents, so you know, whatever
Speaker:baggage you're bringing to begin with, right?
Speaker:And, and then this is like this emotional time where you start
Speaker:to see them declining and you just need
Speaker:somebody that can give you feedback. I
Speaker:mean, and so that was, for me, that was one of the things that really
Speaker:helped me was that I got a caretaker who came,
Speaker:you know, for a couple hours every day, who saw my mother every, you
Speaker:know, and father every day. She actually saved my dad's life
Speaker:because he laid down on the couch and then didn't wake up. And
Speaker:apparently he'd had a Caesar seizure, you know, and she
Speaker:had enough, you know, background that she knew that something was wrong and
Speaker:called the ambulance and got him to the hospital and stuff. But she saw
Speaker:them every day so she could say to me, you know, this is what's going
Speaker:on. This is, you know, your dad is not moving as much as he was
Speaker:or your mom is like doing this right, where I
Speaker:was going out once a week and I was, you know, and so I won't
Speaker:say they were on good behavior, but. But
Speaker:I didn't necessarily get to see the change the
Speaker:way that she did. And, you know, and she was
Speaker:trained. I mean, she'd been through a lot of these, so she
Speaker:knew what kinds of things were not just a
Speaker:blip, you know, but a kind of, a normal kind of thing that was happening.
Speaker:Yeah. So, you know, when you're, when you're doing that and you're getting
Speaker:organized and you create an estate plan inside, the estate
Speaker:plan has a will, but it's not the
Speaker:will because the most important thing is to have something
Speaker:in writing because the state doesn't recognize verbal. But a
Speaker:will is better than no will. But a, a
Speaker:trust or an estate plan that includes a
Speaker:trust is the best method because you don't
Speaker:air your public laundry in the court of law.
Speaker:All that information is hidden under the trust and no one else
Speaker:knows your business. And it's really important because if that
Speaker:becomes public records, all different information is
Speaker:proprietary, goes on the black market, and people could take it
Speaker:and recreate an identity and create debt
Speaker:in someone who has passed away his name, okay.
Speaker:And that the people don't know. So these are the things you need to worry
Speaker:about. This is what you protect against. And
Speaker:then the question is, well, how do you do that? Well,
Speaker:you don't want to be a burden to your children, right? So you
Speaker:create something that is your wishes and you have them follow it
Speaker:and you put it into an estate plan that has a trust. And you
Speaker:don't want your parents to be a burden to you. And taking care of them
Speaker:is not the burden. The burden is giving
Speaker:them exactly what they asked for, which is
Speaker:the standard of living, whether it's assisted living, whether it's
Speaker:full time nursing or in home nursing care, slash personal
Speaker:care assistant. You do want to do is
Speaker:minimum of 25 hours a week with outside help so
Speaker:that you have some sanity and free time to run your business.
Speaker:Okay? And if you don't have that sanity, you're not going to get the proper
Speaker:amount of sleep. You're going to start gaining weight
Speaker:because you're going to eat your calories because you're exhausted and you think your food's
Speaker:going to refresh you. Before you know it, you've gained 20 pounds.
Speaker:And you don't know how. It's because you're not exercising to take care of
Speaker:yourself. So the reason why I bring this
Speaker:up is because we want people to
Speaker:be the best version of themselves, whether it's in business,
Speaker:whether it's in life, whether it's caretaking of others. And we want them
Speaker:to have their golden years be truly golden. Well, in order to do
Speaker:that, you have to be organized. You just can't live paycheck to
Speaker:paycheck. One needs a budget, you need a
Speaker:retirement budget. And you figure out what's the
Speaker:missing delta, is what I call it. The missing delta that you
Speaker:haven't set aside for. And then the time frame to save for
Speaker:that gives you your answer. So
Speaker:when we're talking about finances and, and how to get organized
Speaker:and exit strategies from your business, even if you don't
Speaker:have an exit strategy, you need to know what you want to do
Speaker:with your business. So when you do leave it, it's just not
Speaker:left in the air. And all that hard work and effort that you did
Speaker:to build it up is not wasted because no one wants to go to
Speaker:the next level. Like you were not motivated.
Speaker:I cannot believe we're running out of time. I just want to say
Speaker:one other thing. 1. And then I'm going to get your three
Speaker:things that people can do right away. And
Speaker:that is also find out where your parents have their
Speaker:money. And as an entrepreneur, someone said to me,
Speaker:what if you drop dead? What about the passwords? Would anybody be
Speaker:able to even contact your clients? So this, this affects, you
Speaker:know, you, you. You're helping your parents, but you're also learning what
Speaker:you need to do for yourself. So what are three things that we can do
Speaker:right away? You know what?
Speaker:Game plan, Game plan for the future. Create a written
Speaker:roadmap. That's one thing. And that the
Speaker:idea to have a storage spot
Speaker:for your passwords in your favorite vase
Speaker:inside that no one knows about so that they could go to it
Speaker:and say, that's where it is. Something happens to me. Here's all my key
Speaker:information. No one's going to look there. Another spot that you could put
Speaker:in is put it in your freezer, okay. And wrap an
Speaker:aluminum foil and say emergency, emergency on
Speaker:it. No one's going to go there either. Okay, it will
Speaker:because of tv. I've seen that on tv.
Speaker:Yes, but it's emergency information. People are not
Speaker:going to go into that area if they're robbing your house.
Speaker:Right. Because they're not going to go to the freezer and look on the merch
Speaker:because it's just passwords and you can't sell it. It's not that type of
Speaker:robbery. So that, that's one key thing is to set
Speaker:up that way. I would recommend highly
Speaker:that you have a conversation with me so I can give you
Speaker:complimentary advice that is going to get
Speaker:you on the straight and narrow. And yes, I have a free gift.
Speaker:I'm an author, I have multiple books written. I would be happy to
Speaker:send you a complimentary you meaning your listening audience,
Speaker:a complimentary book with an inscription on it since
Speaker:I'm a five time published author. So. Fantastic. And the
Speaker:thing I will add is make sure you start having this conversation earlier
Speaker:than later. Okay. Bill, when was the last
Speaker:time you did something new? For the last, for the first time? You
Speaker:know, that's a great question. I was at a, I was a monitor
Speaker:or a camp counselor at a special needs
Speaker:camp and I got asked by one of the campers
Speaker:to rock climb, which I've never done before on a wall.
Speaker:And so he said it's easy. Look,
Speaker:he just goes straight up.
Speaker:So I'm like, sure, it's easy. It wasn't so easy because,
Speaker:you know, I'm 59 and he's 24. So it's.
Speaker:But I did it. So it's the, that's the last time I did something that
Speaker:was learned. First time, Brando, that rock carming
Speaker:is great. I, I took a class to rock climbing and I think I got
Speaker:a foot off the ground. But, but
Speaker:anyway, okay, so it's time for me to give you the
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Speaker:to bring people into your world that were going to give you,
Speaker:you know, help you supercharge your business through connection. It's my way of
Speaker:giving back when as I meet really interesting people and their
Speaker:stories to be able to share that with you. So I hope that you'll continue
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Speaker:come back if you haven't done it yet, you should listen to the
Speaker:first episode or just any of the quarterly clarity check
Speaker:ins just to get some ideas of, you
Speaker:know, some ideas and some trends. So, Bill, what are the last
Speaker:words you'd like to leave people with? So
Speaker:I'm a big believer in
Speaker:trust. And so I would ask that people would align
Speaker:with their faith and to lean in
Speaker:and trust and when they pray with intention
Speaker:to be viewed as, as God sees them,
Speaker:and when you're in alignment with your faith, things have a way of
Speaker:working out. Okay,
Speaker:so as always, we've run out of time, but I want to
Speaker:leave you with this message. Remember, change is simple,
Speaker:but it's not always easy. And it requires courage, resilience, and a
Speaker:willingness to step out of your comfort zone. And if you stay
Speaker:comfortable, it means you're not growing and the world is changing around
Speaker:you, whether you are trying to, you know, do anything or
Speaker:not. And if you're not keeping up, you're going backwards, which means you're
Speaker:stagnating. So I hope you will join me for the one small change
Speaker:again as we embark on this journey and we build bold
Speaker:vision and innovative possibilities. And until the next
Speaker:time, please stay very curious. Bill, thank you.