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Building a Secure Retirement While Supporting Aging Loved Ones
Episode 7923rd December 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this insightful episode of The One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy welcomes Bill Walters to explore the intersection of financial planning, caregiving for aging parents, and entrepreneurial life. Bill Walters draws from personal experience to reveal how unexpected responsibilities caring for a parent can impact both business and personal well-being. The discussion dives into practical strategies for building a secure retirement, managing the challenges of the "sandwich generation," creating effective estate plans, and the crucial need for early conversations around care and family finances. Listeners will leave with actionable tips for protecting both their parents’ futures and their own.

Guest Bio:

Bill Walters is a seasoned financial strategist specializing in creating tax-free retirement solutions and helping families triple their savings within a decade. His expertise is rooted in his personal journey, where caring for an aging parent inspired him to help others avoid common pitfalls and emotional stressors associated with late-life transitions. An author of five books, Bill Walters is committed to empowering people with knowledge and practical tools to secure their golden years and achieve true peace of mind.

Chapters:

00:00 "Caring for Aging Parents"

03:45 "Entrepreneurs and Retirement Fund Growth"

08:16 Balancing Caregiving and Survival

09:33 "Discuss Aging Plans Early"

15:02 Estate Planning for Every Family

16:30 "Importance of Logical Support Boundaries"

19:26 "Planning to Avoid Family Burdens"

24:32 "Rock Climbing and Business Insights"

26:02 "Embrace Change, Stay Curious"


Quote from the Guest:

"You have to be organized. You just can't live paycheck to paycheck. One needs a budget, you need a retirement budget." 


Link:

Complimentary “Smart Financial Strategies” consultation for families and individuals. A no-obligation session is designed to get to know you and your financial goals. We’ll discuss where you are now, where you want to be, and explore how I can help you achieve your financial objectives. Whether you're planning for retirement, saving for a big life event, or just looking to better understand your financial options, this conversation will give you clarity and a roadmap for the next steps.

https://calendly.com/wjwalters/15-minute-discovery-session 

Transcripts

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Welcome to the One Small Change. I'm thrilled that you're here with us

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again this week on this journey of exploration and transformation.

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And I'm Your host, Yvonne McCoy and I bring almost 30 years of

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entrepreneurial experience and I have a passion for discovering

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growth through the power of seemingly small change. I want you

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to know that each week I try to bring you somebody interesting who's going to

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give you some insights on their small, unexpected

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or insignificant decision. Decision that sparked a remarkable

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transformation and growth in either their personal, their

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professional or both. And this week we are talking with the

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amazing Bill Walters. Hi, Bill. Hey, Yvonne.

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Thank you so much for having me as a guest. I really appreciate the opportunity

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to get to know your audience as well as you. Well,

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I have to tell you that, that you're talking about

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a topic that I think is great. Kind of

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the imperfect family and

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entrepreneurs. Not only do we have a very weird life, but we also

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have that imperfect family. So I would love for you to

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share what you do and also

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what happened that made you go in that direction makes you really good at what

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you do. Sure, no problem. So what

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I do is I help people money fest

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or create a lifestyle in retirement

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where they achieve maximum productivity

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and that's either income tax free savings or

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tripling. And I did say that we're tripling their savings

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from their old 401k or

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529 plan or whatever plan that they have in place

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in 10 years. And so how

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I got started, it's pretty simple.

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My mom was on her

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caretaking process for my dad

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for many, many years. And while my dad was on his deathbed,

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he reached up and grabbed me and in his

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navy way and said, take care of mom. And I said, yeah dad, I got

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this. And then he really grabbed me hard and said no.

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I said take care of mom. And I said, yeah dad, I heard

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you the first time. I didn't know what he really meant by that.

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And so when he passed and my mom aged 10 years,

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she didn't have a long term care plan in place. I was it.

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And she just plopped herself on my couch and never left.

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And I was left with the responsibility of selling her house,

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consolidating her, her ownership of

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things and creating a long term

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care plan for her that was not only

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new to me, but I made a lot of mistakes out of love.

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And in the, in the six year span that she spent,

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there was no regrets, but I learned the importance and

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the difference of removing fall risks and

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having everything on one floor. So there's no stairs or steps

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and bed alarms and

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adult incontinence diapers. And the differences between them and

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having people come into the house as personal care assistants

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to do bathing and general household cleaning up after her, because

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I always knew what room she was in because there was always a trail of

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crumbs from either cookies or pretzels. And

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so I learned all these things and I could shorten them up

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into a 20 minute conversation so that you don't make the same mistakes

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out of love that I did. All right, so this is what I want to

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do. I know the people that are listening to this

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introduction because they're mainly entrepreneurs, is saying,

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what does this have to do with me? Do you know what?

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I don't get it. Okay. And one of the reasons that

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we connected is because I had that experience as well

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at being an entrepreneur. And so the thing that I want

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to say to people is the first thing that you said was

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I can grow your retirement fund. So there may be some

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who have never worked for a corporation or. And have a

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retirement fund that this might. I don't know whether what you do is

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applicable to anybody who wants to set up their own retirement fund.

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I don't. Yes. So it. So if you have just general

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savings or money in a bank or money

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that's not really earning true

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interest beyond or above inflation,

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then I would be the guy that can really make a difference in

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that gameplay. And there's two strategies. There's a tax

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deferred strategy and there's a tax free strategy.

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And doesn't on both of these, they're not

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limited by age. So you could be

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10 or you could be 85 and still

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they would work. All right, so here's the other part that I

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think where there's the overlap and that is

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if. If you are an entrepreneur and you have an aging

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parent, you are stepping into

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some totally unknown stuff. Yes.

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Right. And you're doing it at a time when

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you're stepping into unknown stuff in

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your business, which means that your life without some kind

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of guardrails, some kind of insight, some kind of advice

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is going to be a whirlwind that you did not

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expect and cannot anticipate

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the things that are going to come up. You mentioned

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you knew where your mother was because of the breadcrumbs.

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My mother. It was chocolate, it was candy

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wrappers. Right. And you know, the thing

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is that this is the parent that raised us

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and we love them very much,

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whether they're. I always say everybody has, you know, everybody

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has a mother, whether she's an angel or a devil. We all have mothers.

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Right? Exactly. However, it

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seems to me that as every parent ages,

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they become more demanding and they're just more things

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that happen at a time when you're trying to grow your business. So

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I'm going to let you talk about this and I will chime in with my

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own horror stories or whatever. But. But I wanted to

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make that connection because I didn't want people to hear the beginning of the

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podcast and say, well, what does this have to do with entrepreneurship?

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And what I say to people is, you have 24

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hours. That includes your entrepreneur business and

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your personal life. And when you have to take care of your

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parents as well as your own family, if you're

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in that sandwich generation, God bless you because I've lived

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through that. And it's

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demanding, requires a lot from you. So go Bill.

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So it's very demanding. It's very, very

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demanding. Right. Because what happens

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is that you have to be aware of doctor's

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appointments and actually go on them or send someone who's reliable to take the

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notes to actually hear what's going on. And you

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have to do the medicine allocation and make sure that it's taken at the right

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time, then the

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therapy, if needed, as well as making sure that

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mom slash dad is drinking enough liquids, because if they don't drink

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enough liquids, they become dehydrated and they start seeing things like

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spots and having conversations with people that aren't there. And

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you also have the opposite end of it, which is

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cleanliness, which as you age, you don't feel like getting

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showered or bathed as much. And so that's why you need someone else

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to do that bathing three times a week so they stay clean,

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because you don't want urinary tract infections. And that's for both guys and

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girls. And so again, all these things are taken

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into account, plus pulse ox

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readings and weight readings. And because my mom had a heart condition, if

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she gained three pounds overnight, it just meant that her heart

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wasn't working properly and we had to get the liquid out. So you do all

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these things that are concerned with mom at the same time. I have a

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daughter that's on the spectrum who be classified as

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special needs and a son add.

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And so when you're looking to do those things, manage

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those people, take them to their activities, manage moments

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and then run a business.

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You're trying to just maintain status quo, not even grow, because

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you're just trying to survive. You're trying to make it from

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wake up Time to going to sleep without making any mistakes

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for your current clients and still have a semblance of order

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and knowing when to hire personal care assistants so that

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you can do your job. All right, can I stop you right away?

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Yes. This is, I think, the biggest mistake

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that I see. So the first one is that we don't,

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you know, we don't know what we don't know. Yep. So if you have

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a parent who is, you know, I don't know what

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the right age is, but I would think mid-60s,

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70s, you need to have a conversation with them.

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You know, what is it that they want? You need to have a conversation with

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your siblings. I was very lucky,

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and I say that because you can't have this conversation early

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enough. Typically, by the time you realize that you need

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help, it's already too late. It has already caused

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havoc in your life. And I was lucky enough to have had a

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conversation with a family friend of ours

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who worked in the aging community, and he sat down with my brother, my sister

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and I, in a restaurant, like, in a neutral place,

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and said, what is it that you know, what is it that your parents want

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and what is it that you want? And my brother was like,

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put her in a nursing home. This was like, after my dad died, put her

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in a nursing home. And my sister's like, well, I'm not nearby.

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I leave it up to you guys. And I'm like, mom doesn't want to go

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to a nursing home. So it fell on me. And

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if that's going to happen, you need to know that sooner than later.

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You know, what, what, what kind of support you're going to get, whether

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it's going to be financial, whether it's going to be mental,

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whatever. So that's, that's probably

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my biggest thing. And to know that your parent is not. Is going

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to resist because they feel like you're taking away their

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independence and they're, you know, you're the child, they're the adult, they

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know better. So it is an uphill and something, sometimes very

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thankless job. I'm

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sorry I spouted. But, but no, it's, it's

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accurate because it's very

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thankless in the aspect that

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you don't know what, what you're doing

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until you're in it. But I can say this, that

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the gift back is that whether you

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have. I was the only child, so I didn't have a chance to

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get help or respite help. But when you

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take care of a mom, it's just the same way as you

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would that she did when. When you were a child, because

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she loved you and she took care of you. Well, now it's time to return

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the favor. Now, the best time to reach out to someone is

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in their 60s, because they're still cognizant. And you get their real

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dreams, and you get it in writing, and then you laminate it

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so they can't rip it when they're older, because you want to

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do exactly what their game plan is. So if their game plan is

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to stay home and they say, I didn't want this, or I didn't. I

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didn't sign up for this, and I'm like, yeah, you did. And you take

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it out and say, is that your signature? Well, yeah. Is that your

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handwriting? Yeah. And you asked for this. So

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we're giving you exactly what you asked for. And then they get mad, and that's

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why it's important to laminate it, because they can't rip it because it's their

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signature, and they made it when they were cognizant and sharp.

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So you're honoring that. And it's important because you're not throwing it in

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their face. You're not teasing them. You're just trying to give them

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the golden years to be truly golden. Yeah. And

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I think the other thing is,

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is to have a will. We haven't even

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gotten to that part yet. Oh, I. I'll wait on that part, though. But.

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But you know, the thing I think that I found that. I

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think you also need to be. Is you talked about doctor's

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appointments. You need to be an advocate for your parent.

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I mean, you know, unfortunately, there is

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ageism in the medical community. I

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mean, I. I went to the doctors and said, can you give. Can you

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up the dosage? My mother was in her 90s. Right.

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And I said, can you up the dosage on my mom's happy pill?

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Right. And he goes, has she.

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Has she talked about killing herself? And I said, no, she makes us

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want to kill ourselves. And he goes, have you thought about

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therapy? And I'm like, really? The woman is in her

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90s. I said, she doesn't have enough time left for

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therapy to kick in. I mean, and it sounded. It

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sounds harsh, but her life is better when she's happier, and

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so is ours. Just, you know, up the pills, because

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who's going to take her to this additional appointment that she

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doesn't want to go to to do something she doesn't want to do?

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And so you have to. You know, there's a certain point where you just have

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to be really realistic about what's possible.

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And the other thing about talking to your parents when

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they're still cognitive is. And I said this to you,

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you know, because both my parents lived to be 94.

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Social Security had two different birth dates for my dad

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and it took us a while to clear that up after he died.

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Then it turned out my parents were married for almost 70 years and my

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mother never changed her Social Security to her married name.

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That makes no sense. I mean, so you

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want to have take a look at those things before you need them,

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right? 100%. So you

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know what I tell people is an estate

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plan is really important. It's just not for the rich. And in an

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estate plan you include a medical care directive and a

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financial care directive. The person does the medical care

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directive is so that they can make the sound

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decisions not from the heart, but from the head when it comes to

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medical advice. Resuscitate, do not resuscitate,

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et cetera. And then the financial standpoint,

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you want to get power of attorney not to take mom

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and dad's money, but just so that they don't get scammed from

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somebody on the telephone, somebody that's a relative. And

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that's why I call perfectly imperfect families because I had that

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crazy uncle who knew my

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schedule and he used to stop by the house and have mom write him a

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check for $4,000 to cover his expenses

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just because he. So he would drop over a twelve

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dollar bouquet of flowers and walk away

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with, you know, three

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$988 worth

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of profit. And then I was like, you're stealing from your

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own sister, you have your own money. What are your. Well pays my expenses. And

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I'm like, no. So after he did it the third

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time, I took away the checks, okay? And

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I said there's no reason for it. So there's something that you

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said that, that I think may sound harsh

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but I think is really important. And that is this

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is a situation where you really

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need to have some logical boundaries. You need to

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have a logical someplace where you can help, where somebody

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can help you make logical decisions. Because

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emotionally you're going to be so wound up. I mean,

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you're dealing with your parents, so you know, whatever

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baggage you're bringing to begin with, right?

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And, and then this is like this emotional time where you start

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to see them declining and you just need

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somebody that can give you feedback. I

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mean, and so that was, for me, that was one of the things that really

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helped me was that I got a caretaker who came,

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you know, for a couple hours every day, who saw my mother every, you

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know, and father every day. She actually saved my dad's life

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because he laid down on the couch and then didn't wake up. And

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apparently he'd had a Caesar seizure, you know, and she

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had enough, you know, background that she knew that something was wrong and

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called the ambulance and got him to the hospital and stuff. But she saw

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them every day so she could say to me, you know, this is what's going

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on. This is, you know, your dad is not moving as much as he was

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or your mom is like doing this right, where I

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was going out once a week and I was, you know, and so I won't

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say they were on good behavior, but. But

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I didn't necessarily get to see the change the

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way that she did. And, you know, and she was

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trained. I mean, she'd been through a lot of these, so she

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knew what kinds of things were not just a

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blip, you know, but a kind of, a normal kind of thing that was happening.

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Yeah. So, you know, when you're, when you're doing that and you're getting

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organized and you create an estate plan inside, the estate

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plan has a will, but it's not the

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will because the most important thing is to have something

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in writing because the state doesn't recognize verbal. But a

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will is better than no will. But a, a

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trust or an estate plan that includes a

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trust is the best method because you don't

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air your public laundry in the court of law.

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All that information is hidden under the trust and no one else

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knows your business. And it's really important because if that

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becomes public records, all different information is

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proprietary, goes on the black market, and people could take it

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and recreate an identity and create debt

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in someone who has passed away his name, okay.

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And that the people don't know. So these are the things you need to worry

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about. This is what you protect against. And

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then the question is, well, how do you do that? Well,

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you don't want to be a burden to your children, right? So you

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create something that is your wishes and you have them follow it

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and you put it into an estate plan that has a trust. And you

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don't want your parents to be a burden to you. And taking care of them

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is not the burden. The burden is giving

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them exactly what they asked for, which is

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the standard of living, whether it's assisted living, whether it's

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full time nursing or in home nursing care, slash personal

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care assistant. You do want to do is

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minimum of 25 hours a week with outside help so

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that you have some sanity and free time to run your business.

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Okay? And if you don't have that sanity, you're not going to get the proper

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amount of sleep. You're going to start gaining weight

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because you're going to eat your calories because you're exhausted and you think your food's

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going to refresh you. Before you know it, you've gained 20 pounds.

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And you don't know how. It's because you're not exercising to take care of

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yourself. So the reason why I bring this

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up is because we want people to

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be the best version of themselves, whether it's in business,

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whether it's in life, whether it's caretaking of others. And we want them

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to have their golden years be truly golden. Well, in order to do

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that, you have to be organized. You just can't live paycheck to

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paycheck. One needs a budget, you need a

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retirement budget. And you figure out what's the

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missing delta, is what I call it. The missing delta that you

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haven't set aside for. And then the time frame to save for

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that gives you your answer. So

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when we're talking about finances and, and how to get organized

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and exit strategies from your business, even if you don't

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have an exit strategy, you need to know what you want to do

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with your business. So when you do leave it, it's just not

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left in the air. And all that hard work and effort that you did

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to build it up is not wasted because no one wants to go to

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the next level. Like you were not motivated.

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I cannot believe we're running out of time. I just want to say

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one other thing. 1. And then I'm going to get your three

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things that people can do right away. And

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that is also find out where your parents have their

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money. And as an entrepreneur, someone said to me,

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what if you drop dead? What about the passwords? Would anybody be

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able to even contact your clients? So this, this affects, you

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know, you, you. You're helping your parents, but you're also learning what

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you need to do for yourself. So what are three things that we can do

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right away? You know what?

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Game plan, Game plan for the future. Create a written

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roadmap. That's one thing. And that the

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idea to have a storage spot

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for your passwords in your favorite vase

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inside that no one knows about so that they could go to it

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and say, that's where it is. Something happens to me. Here's all my key

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information. No one's going to look there. Another spot that you could put

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in is put it in your freezer, okay. And wrap an

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aluminum foil and say emergency, emergency on

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it. No one's going to go there either. Okay, it will

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because of tv. I've seen that on tv.

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Yes, but it's emergency information. People are not

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going to go into that area if they're robbing your house.

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Right. Because they're not going to go to the freezer and look on the merch

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because it's just passwords and you can't sell it. It's not that type of

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robbery. So that, that's one key thing is to set

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up that way. I would recommend highly

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that you have a conversation with me so I can give you

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complimentary advice that is going to get

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you on the straight and narrow. And yes, I have a free gift.

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I'm an author, I have multiple books written. I would be happy to

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send you a complimentary you meaning your listening audience,

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a complimentary book with an inscription on it since

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I'm a five time published author. So. Fantastic. And the

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thing I will add is make sure you start having this conversation earlier

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than later. Okay. Bill, when was the last

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time you did something new? For the last, for the first time? You

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know, that's a great question. I was at a, I was a monitor

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or a camp counselor at a special needs

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camp and I got asked by one of the campers

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to rock climb, which I've never done before on a wall.

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And so he said it's easy. Look,

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he just goes straight up.

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So I'm like, sure, it's easy. It wasn't so easy because,

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you know, I'm 59 and he's 24. So it's.

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But I did it. So it's the, that's the last time I did something that

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was learned. First time, Brando, that rock carming

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is great. I, I took a class to rock climbing and I think I got

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a foot off the ground. But, but

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anyway, okay, so it's time for me to give you the

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commercial. So I hope that you will

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subscribe and share and engage in this, you know, this podcast on

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social media. Because one of the reasons that I did it is I wanted

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to bring people into your world that were going to give you,

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you know, help you supercharge your business through connection. It's my way of

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giving back when as I meet really interesting people and their

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stories to be able to share that with you. So I hope that you'll continue

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to share the one small change and that you'll continue to

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come back if you haven't done it yet, you should listen to the

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first episode or just any of the quarterly clarity check

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ins just to get some ideas of, you

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know, some ideas and some trends. So, Bill, what are the last

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words you'd like to leave people with? So

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I'm a big believer in

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trust. And so I would ask that people would align

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with their faith and to lean in

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and trust and when they pray with intention

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to be viewed as, as God sees them,

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and when you're in alignment with your faith, things have a way of

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working out. Okay,

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so as always, we've run out of time, but I want to

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leave you with this message. Remember, change is simple,

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but it's not always easy. And it requires courage, resilience, and a

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willingness to step out of your comfort zone. And if you stay

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comfortable, it means you're not growing and the world is changing around

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you, whether you are trying to, you know, do anything or

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not. And if you're not keeping up, you're going backwards, which means you're

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stagnating. So I hope you will join me for the one small change

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again as we embark on this journey and we build bold

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vision and innovative possibilities. And until the next

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time, please stay very curious. Bill, thank you.

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