Too cool for Sniper School - Meghan Vita & Grant Visagie

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Episode 43 • 29th August 2023 • AdLunam: Diving into Crypto • AdLunam Inc.

Too cool for Sniper School - Meghan Vita & Grant Visagie

Participants:

• JP (CMO of AdLunam)

• Nadja Bester (Co-founder of AdLunam)

• Jason Fernandes (Co-founder of AdLunam)

• Grant Visagie (Co-founder, course producer, creative lead at Sniper School0)

• Meghan Vita( Head of community, Sniper school)

00:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this episode of Diving into Crypto. This is JP from AdLunam Inc. bringing you everything about web3 on today's special edition of the show. Of course, we have what I call the Harvard of trading schools that is out there, the Sniper school, and we have the team behind it and the wonderful team that's built it from the ground up. They're doing something phenomenal. Everybody should be part of the movement. It's my firm belief it will be yours, I'm sure, at the end of the hour, because you're going to get so much from the reason that they built the school to the reason that they're giving you these courses so that they're giving you these courses for free and so that you can do something with it that is absolutely spectacular.

01:12

In the room we have today, Grant, who is the man curating all those videos you see on the crypto banter channel. And you also have Meghan, who is the lead person dealing with the community. But I'm not going to introduce them. I'm going to let them tell you more about how we got here, what it is that they're doing with Sniper school and what the movement is about. So give us a reaction, ladies and gentlemen, inside the room as welcome Grant and Meghan.

01:43

Grant

ed crypto banter in August of: 2021

02:36

Grant

And he came through a really difficult circumstance with losing his dad who actually committed suicide. It was a very hectic time in the family. And around that time he had just started trading to try and pull his family out of poverty and he managed to do that, but as he says, a little too late for his dad. And so the legacy he's leaving now is that he's really trying to pay it forward and trying to teach other people to do what he did in turning $400 to over a million dollars in under three years just through trading. And I mean, he was a carpenter. He wasn't like the smartest guy around. He just had the will to do this and to figure it out. And he figured it out for himself first without any technical training. And then as he learned what these different tools are and how to use them in the sense of the names of the tools, he started winning trades left, right and center.

03:32

Grant

And he's basically taken that winning method with his whole team around him that's been trading with him over the past few years. And we've turned it into a three week course. And, yeah, it's absolutely fantastic. If you're thinking about becoming a trader or if you're just a crypto investor that wants to understand when to enter the market and when to exit the market, this is the course for you. It's absolutely wonderful. And I mean, one of the major other beautiful things that you get, as I'm sure Meg will unpack for us later, is just access to the crypto banter and the crypto school community. And really on discord, that means daily charts, that means live trading sessions weekly. And I don't know of a more supportive trading community. And with the vision of the school as well, you've got to get involved actually just to paint a big picture for a moment.

04:24

Grant

JP, if you may, with the school. I mean, the vision with the school is to really help people bridge safely into crypto. There's so many scams and there's so many opportunists in the space and really we need responsible leadership. But that leadership has it's competence that gives you authority, it's not a title. And so that's really what we're trying to model with crypto school is actually just trying to have fantastic education, really well produced professional videos that are super clear and just create a fun atmosphere for people to learn. So that crypto is not this huge, difficult concept, but it's simplified, and everyone can really benefit from it and build wealth and escape this kind of dystopian, central bank digital currency future that looms large, especially in this day and age, with everything that's happening in the world. And so, yeah, it's really a great privilege to be here with all of you and to be able to speak, really, on behalf of the school about what we're doing and about what the vision is and to get more people on board with that vision to unite crypto at large with this unifying narrative of a free to use and a fair monetary system.

05:40

Grant

That's an alternative to the hierarchical pay to use, fiat system, as you call it. But yeah, that's in a nutshell. Like a summary I can give while we waiting for the other speakers to arrive. Thank you.

05:55

Thank you, Grant. Appreciate that. You've painted quite an art. But the thing is that isn't the full picture. So I want to draw that out. I want us to go take a deeper dive into those points that you've shared, and you really shared a story that speaks about the authenticity of the person who created it as well as the reasoning behind it. And that's really the key draw of what you can see, actually, every day that spells the brand of what children is. I want to pause for a moment, though, and get a view from Meghan. Meghan, go ahead. What are your thoughts on this?

06:33

Meghan

I think Grant did an amazing job of summarizing what we're doing and why we're doing it here at Crypto School. He's very talented with his words and motivation. The motivation behind it is so organic for Grant, and I feel inspired every day to work with you, Grant. It's such a special team and group of moderators and mentors that we have. I see a bunch of them in the audience here, which is amazing. I see Fifi and Chris. They're both part of our mod team. And not only does it give you a chance to get in and kind of get on boarded to Crypto in a safe, fun environment, it gives you a chance to kind of lead others and develop kind of skills on that front. Fifi just the other day hosted a kind of newbie AMA in our server. I don't know how many people turned up, but I think it was over 50, which is pretty awesome.

07:24

Meghan

And just to be able to handle people, ask questions and no question is a bad question, right. And kind of be that presence for them, I think is really awesome. And there are some people in our community who gravitate more towards that and then also hands on trading and advanced trading advice, which is pretty awesome to see these kind of network effects just naturally develop within our community. So there's definitely a role, a place, a way to get involved in whatever way you're interested in doing and kind of foster that and build it personally also. So, yeah, it's great to be here. I am excited to hear more about AdLunam, too, and to meet a lot of your community in the upcoming cohort. Our first event is on.

08:06

Thank you. Yeah, we're going to talk more about that. We're going to talk a little more about that as the show goes forward, though. I want to pivot back to two particular points, though, right. And that is the story behind Grant wanting to be what got him to the point at which he came to the table where he said, this is the space that I want to be. And Meghan, I'm going to ask you that just immediately after so that the audience really gets to know you. Some of them already know you, but I'm doing this also for the community at AdLunam who have the privilege of being part of the Sniper school initiative go for it.

08:40

Grant

put it onto me when I was in: 2013

09:41

Grant

And our first call was one on one, people from all over the world. And that was just absolutely wonderful experience. And we began building a website and community. And through that process, I actually ended up getting introduced to Sheldon and to Ron. And when I realized what that channel was, because I actually had been so blinkered with what I was building, I hadn't even heard of crypto banter at that point. And when I did and met with them, it was just like instant connection. We really were on the same page in terms of wanting to drive global adoption of Bitcoin and to see this crypto potential reach its full potential. And so literally, it was a whirlwind. I sent some artwork through and two days later Ron called me, and then two days later I was in Cape Town, and then a month later I moved there with my wife.

10:32

Grant

So really it was such a fast uptake. And since then, we've been building the school. But really, to answer your question, that initial seed know, we had some friends and some family nearby who lost a whole lot of money through the MTI. Scam. And we managed to spot it about two months before it went bust. And we managed to help some of them get their money out, but obviously for the others, it was a different story. And unfortunately, that's an all too common story. And so my wife and I decided to become a safe bridge and to devote ourselves to helping simplify this space and bring it to the masses. And so it's amazing to be able to join forces with one of the biggest crypto media channels in the world, i.e. crypto banter, and to work with those guys and the whole team there to really build this out and see the light of day.

11:30

Grant

terally, the groups are about: 2000

11:55

Well, and from what I've hear, I know that we've got some of the videos out and some of the people in the room as well have the opportunity to give us some feedback during the Q/A session. I'm going to open the room up at that point of time. Thank you, Grant. Thank you for sharing that. The journey is always the most important part whenever it is that there is a movement.

12:14

Grant

Right.

12:14

Because people rally to that idea, people rally to that heart behind it. And it's getting clearer and clearer. Yeah. Why there's so many people that are part of the Banter FAM and part of sniper school as well.

12:26

Grant

And the space is moving so fast. I mean, only a year and a half ago, when we first started shooting the intro course videos, were sitting at just over 2% global adoption. And as of the end of last year, we moved up to 425,000,000 people in the world using crypto, which accounts for about 5.3% of the population. So at this stage, it's growing faster, it's being adopted faster than the Internet was adopted. And that is something else. Some ways. No one expected this.

12:57

Yes. And the thing is, it's initiatives like these, right? It's initiatives like these that will first draw people in. I also want to take a perspective. I see the co-founders of AdLunam are here. Jason and Nadja is here as well as Lawrence, our CTO at AdLunam, who's in the house. So shout out to Lawrence. But I'm going to move a little to get an understanding from Jason and Nadja. Jason, since I have you up first, tell us a little about what you do and a little about AdLunam.

13:33

Nadja

Hey, guys, can you hear me?

13:36

Loud and clear.

13:38

Nadja

I'm sorry for I'm standing on a street corner and corner in Paris because I'm at an event and I completely lost track of time with all of the networking here. It is incredible. So I just want to start off by saying that it's amazing to be in this space and to see on the ground how much is changing. So I'm very happy to be having this conversation today because I think it's so important that people get the opportunity to learn more. And, yeah, very happy to be with you guys. So, in terms of AdLunam, Jason and I have been in the industry for many years and we have seen, I think, so much evolving over all of this time. And when we started AdLunam, there was this vision for really what was going to happen to the space, the changes that we anticipated.

14:39

Nadja

Let's put it that way. And it's only in the last really two or so years that I've seen the space change so much in terms of new people coming into it. But now there's a truck heading my way, so let me I'm sorry, guys, for the noise in the background. So with AdLunam as an investment platform and as something that it's so important to us to democratize crypto investment really, which is the kernel of what AdLunam is all about. We have a Engage to Earn model that really focuses on if you have nothing else to give except your attention, your time and your attention, which is not something people do because they have nothing else to do. They are making these time investments already because they know how important it is to stay up to date with what is happening in the industry. But I think in crypto you have to be so actively involved.

15:44

Nadja

You're on Twitter, you're on Telegram, you're on LinkedIn, you're on YouTube, you're on Discord. So you are constantly engaged, but you are not getting anything in return. And so I think when Jason and I started AdLunam and were brainstorming, really, what is this baby that we are going to turn into a toddler and then into a teenager? And I find it incredible to see that in web3 now, people are at this moment more curious than they've ever been before. I especially see this being at the conference. I mean, there were 10,000 tickets to NFTParis and they were all sold out and the queue to get in to the conference over a kilometer long, people just waiting to get in. And these are people that are brand new to the space. So there's a lot happening. But the question is, if you are somebody who's already engaging so much, how are you being rewarded for your time?

16:48

Nadja

How are you being rewarded for the attention that you are giving? And so that really is the idea behind AdLunam is if you engage, if you are active and you're an investor you are able to with the AdLunam ecosystem, with the Engage to Earn model that we have, the Proof of Attention allocation mechanism we have you are really able to demonstrate to quality projects that you are a quality investor. So, I mean, as a Launchpad, as an investment platform, we want to be able to serve investors and projects equally. Neither one of them should benefit more from the relationship than the other party. So, yeah, I'm extremely grateful to be able to talk about this with people who you guys are as committed to educating the space. And I think that really is the key if we don't educate the masses and this is really my personal philosophy that I've seen over the years, but especially over the last few months, if people are not educated in the right way, beyond the hype, beyond what's the latest selling point?

18:03

Nadja

What's the thing that everyone's chasing? But if people don't understand the fundamentals of what is happening. They let the opportunities pass them by out of fear. So I think with sniper school, what is so really just attractive about it is this idea that you are giving to the average person the opportunity to lift the veil. There's this fog of just confusion in Web3. And I see this I'm writing a book about Web3, and every time I explain to someone what the book is about, you can see their eyes glaze over because they have no idea what I'm talking about. And I think that is really for me, the key that needs to shift is as brands, as companies, as business leaders, we really need to come together and say, look, if no one can understand what I'm doing, the problem lies there. We need to onboard more people using education.

19:07

Nadja

So, yeah, I'm not going to be able to stay for the entire show, guys, but I'm super happy to be here and amazingly delightful to be able to speak to you. I just want to add that as a fellow South African, it's my first time being on a Twitter spaces with other South Africans in the Web3 space. So I absolutely love this part as well.

19:30

Grant

Very cool. So you're absolutely right, Nadja. And really that education aspect of crypto, that's really where it's at right now and what's needed, especially looking at that adoption stat that I gave just 5% of the global adoption right now. And there's a whole new set of jargon that needs to be integrated in some ways. But that's what we're trying to actually do here, is make it simple for people so they can sort of systematically get into this and really understand once they've gone through the intro course and even through sniper school, that they get a working understanding of this so that they can use this to create wealth for themselves and for their families. And that's really what it's all about. Yep.

20:11

Certainly the movement of empowerment that comes in there. Jason, you wanted to say something? Weigh in.

20:18

Jason

Sure, yeah. Hi, everybody. This is Jason, co-founder at AdLunam. Yeah, I second pretty much everything that Nadja just said sort of about how important education is in the industry. I'm a former crypto analyst, used to do a show called Crypto Now on Blockside television and sort of really spent time market it's really strange that so many people have no idea. It just seems like magic internet money to a lot of people. They don't really understand what are the factors that drive Price idea of token utility, which, I mean, Bitcoin has certain factors that influence it, but there are fundamental factors that influence other tokens as well. And people not really understanding kind of what are the factors that drive Price? And then sort of just following the leader, kind of like we looked at statistics. I launched an exchange in India, cryptocurrency exchange called X Rex.

21:17

Jason

And one of the features we're looking at introducing was copy trading. And then we actually looked at and figured out that essentially the copy traders tend to do much worse than the people that copied other people's. Trades tend to do much worse. And that's mainly because these guys that were doing trades, I mean, they might.

21:35

Jason

Actually do two trades well. They make one trade and then they'll make another trade that hedges their bet and essentially they'll only be public about the trade that they made. That was right. So there's so much people that talk back about kind of how they're going to teach you how to trade and they really don't know themselves. I remember joking that I was going to set up a trading school and essentially guarantee that everybody that joins will be a millionaire, but I would only accept billionaires, meaning that the easiest way to kind of make a million dollars in crypto is to start with a billion. But yeah, I'm really glad AdLunam is really glad to partner with Sniper school and bring sort of education out to people and give them an idea how to make intelligent decisions in this industry.

22:26

Grant

Thanks Jason. Yeah, that's epic man. Through the Sniper school, guys will learn to create rule system for themselves that they can follow, so they can learn a bunch of indicators that they can use on the charts in order to take the right entries and take the right exits to make money. But really the point is that you build a personalized system for you and that you choose the indicators that work. And it might be four or five for you, but when those indicators are aligned, then you have confidence to take the trade. And we teach you to build your own personalized trading journal. You actually get Sheldon's trading journal as a starting point and he shows you the last five trades that he's taken and literally the entry points, the exit points, and the indicators that he's used to take those. And then with that you can really build a system that works for you and over time you can learn what your weaknesses are and what your strengths are.

23:19

Grant

You can play to your strengths and strengthen those weaknesses. And then as I said earlier on the call, you're actually able to sharpen your skills through these live AMAs we run every week and live trading sessions we run with Sheldon. So there's the opportunity for individuals to actually get individual attention through the moderators, through the mentors. We've literally got thousands of people now active in that discord every single day. And so it's a way to people to connect in not only to sharpen their own skills, but to connect into a larger crypto community and build a trading team through that you can also bounce things off of. One of the groups that got built through the first cohort we ran is now up to 160 people on WhatsApp and growing fast and that's just one of them. There's many more that we're hearing about through the works that are slowly springing up as people are connecting over.

24:09

Grant

They have the same sort of methodology and approach and so we're really trying to help empower people to do that well.

24:18

So Grant, that being said, I'd like to ask all our speakers in the room, right, some of us I know do trades with crypto and some of us, even in the audience and in the room will look at trading and say, you know what, this is not for me, this is something that's too risky. Why should people trade? Why do you think people should get into that and say that this is a skill that I need to know as opposed to saying I'd rather just be safe and sit on my money.

24:49

Grant

I'm going to hazard a quick answer to that before anyone else jumps in and just say that really, I encourage people to go through sniper school even if they aren't intending to trade daily or even weekly. If you're just an investor and you're just wanting to be a part of what's happening in crypto and just hold your wealth even over a longer period of time, you still would benefit from having the basic skills of understanding how to read the market so that you don't end up buying at 69,000 on Bitcoin like so many did.

25:21

Right.

25:21

Grant

x coins and: 1000

26:20

Grant

And you don't have all those price movements because it's those price movements that actually give you all those great gains, it's the price moving so much, it's actually the volatility that creates all the opportunity. And some people don't really understand this, but you can make money when the market's going down, not just when the market's going up. And so really that's what we teach people to do.

26:43

Wow, that's fantastic. I want to expand on that a bit but I also want to get perspectives in from our other speakers in the room. Meghan, Jason, Nadja, any thoughts? Why should people trade? If you're speaking, you're mute.

27:03

Nadja

I think for me, I very much agree with what Grant said in the sense that even if you don't intend to trade at all or frequently, but you need to be educated about those fundamentals. You need to understand. I mean, if you are huddling, for example, and you are not into trading at all, trading might seem completely just a non-issue to you because that's not your world. But the thing is, you are huddling. So there's movement in your life between yourself and crypto. So anytime that you're involved with something, it's incredibly important to understand at least the basic fundamentals so that you can foresee. I mean, there's so much of this mysticism, I feel, where even if people are in the space, it's one aspect to mention the word crypto or Web3 or NFT or DAO or metaverse, and then people's eyes roll over because they don't understand it.

28:04

Nadja

It's a different world to them. But then there's also so many people who are already investing in the space who have no idea actually how it works. And I mean, it's complex. It's incredibly complex because you have to understand finance, you have to understand technology, you have to understand the financial markets, you have to understand economy. And there's a lot of I mean, it's a multidiscipline industry to be in because you need to have this sort of well-rounded understanding of how things work. And I say need to. I mean, of course you don't need to. There are many people who get away with knowing virtually nothing. The problem is that's great when things are going well for them, if by any miracle things are going well for you, even if you don't understand crypto, but you have crypto, that's a temporarily fortunate position to be in.

28:56

Nadja

But as we've seen time and time again, at some point the market turns in the opposite direction of what you want it to be, and you need to safeguard yourself. So on the one hand, I think that trading knowledge about trading is important not only for the actual business of trading, but also if you need to safeguard yourself, you need to understand that aspect. If you want to look for opportunities, you need to understand that aspect because even if it's not for you, it's for many other people, it will allow you to broaden your horizon. And I think something like what crypto Banter is doing with sniper school, it's a great mini immersion. You don't have to spend years trying to learn something because who has the time, who has the capacity, like the mental and physical and whatever else, energy and just motivation to go all intent into something.

29:54

Nadja

But I think but by having this program, having these experts that are already out there and I. Mean, are just honing their expertise even more on a daily basis and having them to guide you, that's a completely different ballgame. So if it is this easy to take this course, then the question for me is, why not? I mean, even I will take this course. I think you should ask yourself the question, what is the reason why I'm not doing it? And if you can come up with a very sufficient answer for why you're not going to do it, okay. But I think for the rest of us, it's just one of those things that just needs to be done. So, yeah, that's my amen, and I'm sticking to it.

30:36

Fair enough. Fair enough. Nadja and Grant, since I have you both here in the room, and you have shared some about why people should trade what the ethos of the school is, why we got into the space. But I'm really curious to find out, and I know the audience is curious to find out. How did this all come about? How did this collaboration with AdLunam and Sniper School come about? Tell us that story.

31:01

Nadja

since: 2017

32:13

Nadja

And the thing that comes to the forefront for me all the time, no matter who I'm speaking to, is it always comes down to education. Some people feel they don't have enough. I often have this conversation with people where they know what they don't know, and that's a good place to be in. But there's also a lot of people who don't know that they don't know. So it's either that someone knows a little bit and they feel they need to learn more, or someone doesn't know anything and has no idea where to start. So I think for me now in the Web Three space, before we do anything else, we need to educate. I always ask the question, if you want mass adoption to happen, but no one has any freaking understanding, any idea what you are actually doing, how are they going to adopt anything?

33:09

Nadja

So the conversation was really about, how can we bring this to the forefront? So, yeah, the hallway in crypto Banter offices, that's how it all came about. And shout out to beautiful Cape Town. I'm standing in a very cold Paris, my hands are freezing and I didn't bring my gloves. So I'm fantasizing about that Cape Town sun and the beautiful table mountain view that you guys have from the officers.

33:36

Grant

Absolutely, yeah. I think just to piggyback off what you were saying there, Nadja, it struck me that we really share the same kind of heart when it comes to crypto and wanting to see more and more people come into a space of financial responsibility, the age of responsibility as they become their own banks. And to drive Bitcoin adoption, this freedom fighting tool, as Sayfer Dean Amos calls it. He's a writer of the bitcoin standard, which is one of the best books on bitcoin around. If you haven't checked it out, definitely grab that book. Yeah, he really unpacks it and the importance of this and what it means for our civilization. He calls bitcoin a vigilante savior. And I think I'd love to get into that a little bit more, maybe a bit later, just around the deeper aspects of really how important this is for society and how it will impact every single one of us because of how important bitcoin is as a benefit for all of us.

34:43

Grant

But yeah, really, just to say as well, it hasn't been mentioned yet, but we're serious about educating people. And what that means is that our courses are free, both the intro course and the Sniper school course and the soon to be released whale school course. We literally are releasing every single one of these courses for free. And we figured out a way to monetize it so that we can pour more money into building better videos and better education and expanding the team, which we're already up into multiple figures of ten within our core team that's full time, not to mention hordes of moderators and other volunteers and helpers. And so it's free. And I think that just makes it that much easier for anyone to get into these courses and to benefit from the education and just to remove that barrier to entry. Which actually brings me to something, JP, I wanted to ask you to share.

35:34

Grant

We had a brief conversation on one of our calls where you mentioned India what happened when I think it was an exchange, lowered their barrier to entry to $50. And I'd love you to share that story as well, because I think it really drives this point home.

35:50

Yeah. So I believe it was your Vazir X, Jason. Correct me if I'm wrong, it was Vazir X that started this movement to get more people in because people couldn't afford to pay $100 or $200 to buy into an account, right, or whatever the minimum was on an exchange to get in. So they lowered the entry barrier to start at 50, which was midpoint to.

36:14

Grant

Affordable just so that you have mass adoption.

36:17

And by virtue of that, you had about, what was it? About close to 1 billion accounts that were opened. It was a fantastic move because this is one of the places that have a low purchasing power. Parity are not always able to meet the same requirements as other places. So customization to each of these places can ease that entry barrier inside. And I'm certain places like El Salvador that have adopted it are removing these laws and restrictions just so that you can have more of this mass adoption. And that should percolate to many more countries across the world who may not beneficiaries like the bigger, more developed economies, but those that want to grow up will start using methods like these to go forward.

37:10

Grant

Epic, man. Really cool.

37:15

about the time around between: 2016

37:57

Jason

oed right up till as early as: 2021

39:02

Jason

ax authorities. You mentioned: 2016

40:12

Jason

And so there was really no onwrap. There was a huge problem with cryptocurrency companies in India not really having an. So this is something that goes back and forth. And it's unfortunate, right, because if you think about the countries that could really benefit from something like this, it would be the countries in South Asia. So countries like India, Pakistan, China, like these are places where you have the largest number of unbanked people. So presumably these are the kind of places that you want to have democratized money and give access to the poorest among us. But those are the specifically the people that are being disenfranchised by these sort of government policies and things that are actually ongoing and continue to cause a problem today.

41:01

Yeah, that leads to an interesting question, Jason. I'm glad you put a spotlight on that because one of the reasons that we do mass adoption and we've chosen education as that right? I mean, collectively, AdLunam Sniper school and everyone that has actually worked towards mass adoption has gone about with education at first because people need to understand what they're doing. A lot of people convert because they start with, oh, hey, you know what? I bought my first bitcoin. And that's a common story for a lot of us, including myself, that the first thing I did was because everyone's talking about it, therefore I looked at a way in which to get to buy some bitcoin.

41:39

Grant

Right?

41:39

But assuming that people are in a state and you have people from all across the know, Grant, Meghan, you see people from all across the globe come into the course. They have these questions. They come in for the learning, right? But when they at a place which has higher regulation than most or uncertain regulation, like spaces like the subcontinent, how do we get them to understand that they could still trade, they can still be part of this movement, they can still get banked when they're unbanked. Sorry, Grant, if you're saying something, you got to unmute.

42:31

Grant

I thought that question was directed at Jason, but I'll say this, that really there are so many good actors in the space that are working towards making the on ramps, getting your local currency into crypto, and I mean, even from just amazing retailers. I know of something rolling out in Africa very soon that's going to allow people to buy crypto through the USSD platform. That Star Triple one Star, literally using not even a smartphone, which will allow them to get into the market and become another on ramp that will be much more difficult to stop. And really, this makes very clear the need and the central importance of Bitcoin within all of this. Because once you're in, once you've created your own bitcoin wallet and you've got your secret password, you've got your private key, no one can touch that money. And really, people don't understand quite how powerful that system is.

43:27

Grant

Really what we have is a global lock made of electricity and circuits, made of all of these millions of computers around the world, holding the entire network, making it virtually impossible to shut down. And so governments have tried to ban it and it continues to grow. Central African countries have banned it, and yet that's where the highest adoption is happening right now, because people are seeing that even in its volatility, bitcoin is still far more stable than their local currencies, some of which are absolutely tanking. And not to mention the massive international remittance aspect of crypto and of bitcoin, because you're able to send money within ten minutes anywhere in the world and have it clear at a fraction of the cost of the Fiat system. And that alone is an absolutely huge boon for the industry and for the world. Really. We've never before had a money that we can send anywhere in the world and that no one can stop us sending.

44:27

Grant

And that's the big deal here. That's the piece of the education that everyone needs to understand. Often I find myself, I chose to sell my car about a year ago and I've been taking Ubers and shame, these poor Ubers get the ears spoken off, but they love it, man. They're absolutely fascinated to hear about what's happening, because those people on the ground, how else are they going to hear? And what I generally tell those kinds of guys is just get in and buy some bitcoin. The projections for the future, if you even just look at the chart, we will reach a million dollar bitcoin. And so there's still massive growth in that and massive stability to come. And that still is the big cheese in crypto. That's still the big one that everyone really needs to understand so that they can make use of it to hold on to their wealth.

45:11

Grant

It's still the best way, it's still better than gold to hold on to your wealth over a long period of time. And I tell those guys, just get what you can get in there and just hold it. If you can't trade, if you can't get more information, obviously I put them onto the school so they can, but just buy it and hold it because over the next few years, we are going to see a massive wealth transfer that's already begun. We're going to see so much more money being plowed into crypto as all these institutions all over the world begin to adopt it. Now, for example, at the end of last year, the biggest bank in the world, BNY Mellon, which is a custodial, they have $27 trillion under the custody. They started offering Bitcoin to their investors. If you can't beat them, join them.

45:54

Grant

And so we're going to see massive increase in the crypto space. We're going to see a huge amount of wealth moving in there. And if you can get in now at 5% adoption, we are still so early. And that really is the case and is the truth. And we're just on a massive mission to get as many people behind that as possible, as many people into that as possible. And as I said, for free. There's literally I don't know of a better platform to do that. And we've tried to take the best voices in all of crypto and include them in the course. So we've got speakers from Saferdine AMAs, who I mentioned before, to Robert Breedlove, to Jordan Peterson, really looking at the philosophical, the political, the socioeconomic benefits of crypto to the world and making sure that information gets out there. Because you can, believe you me, that the banks are not going to share that.

46:49

Grant

The banks are wanting to develop their own central bank digital currencies, which, by the way, 90% of banks all over the world are already in active development of. And really that represents, just like I mentioned, Bitcoin being a global lock that could be a lock that helps to safeguard our wealth. But if CBDCs become the central currencies and people get educated by the banks and they adopt those things, we could end up with a global lock that locks us into an entrenched slavery system. And that's really what we're against. That's what we want to stop as the people. We're standing up and saying, no, we're going to participate in these networks that are free to use and free to join and are far more beneficial than the centralized money, centralized banks. And so that's really the big story here.

47:38

Yeah, no, fair enough. Jason, do you want to weigh in on that? Go ahead.

47:41

Jason

Yeah, I actually wanted to add something, and I think it's really appropriate. But if I'm not mistaken, Jervis, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe your entry into crypto came also through an education webinar that I organized through XREX. Hilarious, because both Jervis I think Jervis was an attendee. We have some really cool pictures, throwback pictures of I think Jervis getting his first Bitcoin incidentally, another person in the audience was Gajana Nayak, who went on to know multi-million dollar DeFi protocol.

48:18

DEX.

48:18

Grant

Yeah.

48:20

Jason

And so it's interesting that both people, both you, Jervis, and Gajanan both basically introduced to cryptocurrency through that one event that I organized for XREX. And the next thing you know, you are doing that professionally and so is Gajanan, who of course has started Polyguy, which is a DeFi protocol, now manages over $7 million in assets locked under that crypto. And he's only 14 years old, by The way, in case you guys, exactly a 13 year old kid.

48:53

ink this was somewhere around: 2017

49:52

Though, that being said, I want to pivot a little away to something about people from across the globe that you mentioned, Grant, earlier, from, I think, 100 plus countries, sorry, from your first Cohort, you had about 150 people that were from various countries around the globe. Where do you see more and more of these guys coming in from?

50:18

Grant

It's really all over the place. I mean, when we first started out, we were pulling people from the existing community within crypto banter, which is, I think it's 25% or so in the US. And then there's a whole bunch of Europe, a bunch in South Africa, and then really spotted all over the globe, like, as you said, over 100 countries. And so every time we start one of these live calls, when we first launch the first live event, we always ask everyone to type in the chat, where are they from? And it's fascinating to hear from all over the place and some places I haven't even heard of before. It's really fantastic to be connecting a global community together and that just is so in line with the ethos of crypto as a whole.

51:01

Yeah, every bit helps when it comes to this aspect of mass adoption, especially when it comes to the education part.

51:09

Grant

Okay.

51:10

So that being said, you have candidates across the globe, you know that you have different people with different ideas, with different regulations where they come from. Education is the way forward to increase that number beyond the 5% that we currently have so let's dive back. Let's dive back a little into the school, right? Does your life change once you learn the trade craft of being able to? And Meghan, you've been quite all this while, so weigh in as well. Jason, I know you have a perspective, too, so go ahead.

51:50

Jason

Yeah, I think let's have a guest give an opportunity for a guest to sort of weigh in.

51:58

Yeah. Megan, you're on mute if you're saying something. All right. I'm not sure.

52:14

Grant

I can chime in with a quote from good old Nelson Mandela. It really kind of epitomizes the need of all of this. And this is one of my favorites. Education is the great engine of personal development. It's through education that the daughter of a peasant can become a doctor, the son of a mine worker can become the head of the mine, and the child of farm workers can become the president of a great nation. It's what we make out of what we have, not what we're given, that separates one person from another. And so, yeah, really just absolutely centrally important that we educate people so that they can free themselves. Meg, I hope you're around.

52:52

Meghan

Yes, I'm here. Could you repeat the question?

52:58

What? So my question was, how does your perspective change once you learn the trade craft of trading? Grant just gave us an idea from what Mandela had said, so yeah, go ahead.

53:12

Meghan

I think I'll speak from my perspective personally. There's a sense of empowerment once you kind of learn something, accomplish something, and do it slowly and safely, and you have a few kind of falls and stumbles and make mistakes, and that's part of the journey. But if you can come out the other side, it builds confidence. And if you can do that in a community environment and with other people along the way, it's empowering. And I think, for myself, I'm a single mom with two young kids, and when I got divorced, I had this overwhelming sense of I need to take control of my finances. I need to build a future for my kids without someone else or without being dependent on someone else. And crypto gave that to me, and it was very empowering, and that's a very different answer than grants. But I'll speak from my personal perspective, and I love seeing more women come into the space and speak up and join crypto school.

54:07

Meghan

And for me, that's really motivating and one of the reasons why I love being part of this movement.

54:14

Super. Do you see more women coming in with each cohort that you have?

54:20

Meghan

That's a good question. I am going to go crunch the numbers on that, actually, after the call. I like to think that I encourage them to speak up more and join in and contribute during the live sessions and make them feel comfortable doing so. But that's just maybe wishful thinking.

54:38

Well, and I'm certain that it would because often the orientation is that what do I know about crypto? Right? And I'm speaking about this from everybody's perspective or from somebody who's new that may want to join the school, right? And for them it may be, what do I know about the finance industry? What do I know about investing? I'm not certain if this is for me. I generally see TV or serials that have this depiction of people in suits who do this trading, and they speak about millions of dollars. And that is the image that's in my head. But that image really has to change because that isn't the reality. And when you're within the sniper school, when you're doing this on a daily basis, you see real people like the audience in this room who are part of that movement. Your Sniper school candidates, the students there, these are people that are living regular, everyday lives, right?

55:45

And it is for everybody. It isn't just for the suits. It isn't just for the graduates who've gone through an Ivy League school, but it is for all right, so tell us a little more about those, Meghan. You know, Jason, I'm certain you've got some Nadja you as well. You've been quite a long have the life changing experiences of people that are there in crypto. I'm just going to put it out there for all of you to weigh in with some stories because that's really what we want to know from the audience in the room.

56:23

Nadja

Guys, I'll go first because after that, I need to sign off. I was having a conversation. In fact, this is the reason that I was late. I was talking to a fashion designer who has come into web3, and she is in her 40s. She is the single mother of three children. And it struck me what she said to me. She said when she found web3, it was the craziest decision. But she even went ahead and stopped production of her fashion line because she realized there's a whole new world that she's only at the beginning of. And so as much as she has kind of climbed the ladder in the fashion industry to make her mark in that world, she now is able, as an older woman, as a single mother, she's able to take a chance on something that is so early and that she knows probably decades from now, everyone will be on the same page.

57:29

Nadja

So these kind of stories always encapsulate for me what web3 is all about, why I'm in this space. Because whether you are an investor, whether you are a trader, whether you are a professional, whoever you are and whatever you're about, this is the dawn of a new age. This is the dawn of the beginning of tomorrow, of the future. I mean, the future doesn't wait for anyone. And I really see this over and over again. Some people get in on something and they learn the ropes. Sometimes they stay there, sometimes they move on, but because they come into something at a time when there isn't mass adoption just yet, they really have access to opportunities that other people cannot have and that cannot happen in other industries. So I would say, sorry for the background noise. I'm standing here in a feels like a dungeon where I'm standing in the back of a building.

58:28

Nadja

So for me, really, the empowerment of everyday people on the retail side, the empowerment of professionals on the business side, the ability to create generational wealth, but all of it comes from a place of understanding what's happening and understanding what you are doing. Because I think the allure of, oh, it's crypto, oh, it's web three, there's massive amounts of money to be made. If you are taking that approach without understanding, well, what does it mean to make massive amounts of money? I mean, is it all about this? There's so much that you need to understand in order to give yourself the best possible fighting chance. But I've seen that people coming into the space out of curiosity or people coming into the space out of fear, because there are a lot of people, I speak to people all the time who tell me, I am scared of this because I don't understand it.

59:30

Nadja

And so that's why I'm curious. And I think no matter what the reason why you are coming into this, because it's out of fear, because you have hopes and dreams that it's going to hopefully fulfill, or because you genuinely just see it as the next generation of the internet, which it is, there's something in there for you. And the stories that come out of a domino effect. When you touch one domino, the whole thing falls down. I feel like this with stories because it doesn't matter who you speak to. Every person you speak to has a story and every person has a different entry point into web three and the changes in their life looks different from another person. But if you are in any case on this life journey, as we all are, of discovering yourself, finding your place in the world, seeing what makes sense to you and for you, then this is certainly a space that it's like being early.

:: 00:30

Nadja

I don't want to say colonizers, because that's the word that comes to mind. But, I mean, if you were an early explorer and you went out there and you don't know what this crazy, wild world is about, but you get on your ship and you go sailing and you go from land to land, this is kind of what it feels like. And you don't know where you're going to land necessarily, but once you open the door for yourself, it might be trading initially and then you might see other things or you might get into trading and that's your thing. But really, whatever your objective with this, I think the. Number one thing always is educate yourself. Make sure that you understand how this works and the story will unfold. The story is always unfolding, but you need to actively participate for this to be part of your story.

:: 01:25

Grant, you want to weigh in?

:: 01:28

Grant

I just love this conversation, man. It's been amazing when you're on those live calls and I just read the chat, you know, these live events that we do during the course. And there's just so many stories that get shared there, you know, from people just going from not having much at all to really changing their lives through this whole process. I mean, even my story is similar to that. I started getting in early enough to buy some early low cap altcoins and see some serious gains and it allowed me to move to Cape Town and to really elevate my life and to put myself in the position where I'm able to focus on this education and on building the crypto school out. And so even in my own life, I've seen crypto have a huge impact and I just love reading those stories, man, especially what's happening in Africa right now.

:: 02:21

Grant

There's just a huge wave of adoption. Yeah, it's really exciting. It's a super exciting space to be in. I just want to mention as well, we have the next cohort, the next class of crypto school sorry, of sniper school starting on Monday. And so if anyone here is listening that's interested in learning how to trade or just wanting to invest over longer periods of time and wants to understand how the market works, this course is really perfect for beginners. It's really great to just hold your hand through the basics, even if you've never opened an exchange account before. We literally have step by step tutorials. And then, as I say, you connect in with a crypto community that you can build with for life, that you can really over time, you can build your wealth and you can increase your understanding and knowledge and just plug in wherever you want to plug in.

:: 03:10

Grant

I mean, it comes to mind another friend of mine, Alastair, who was on an NFT AMA I did, and for the last year and a half he's lived off of buying and selling pictures of cats and sheep and all sorts of other crazy stuff. And at one point he was employing about 20 people from a small country who were playing a game on his behalf from NFTs that he had bought and they were making double or triple what they were making before with this game. And obviously he was also making more money through that. And so there's just so many different ways to connect in. And if you don't know, well, of course you're not going to be able to take advantage of those opportunities. So if you haven't gotten in yet, I encourage you, go ahead. The AdLunam community on all of their socials, they've been posting the links in case you just want to go straight there.

:: 03:57

Grant

onday. And every month we put: 2000

:: 04:27

Amen. Amen to the moon indeed. Okay, so I want to dispel a notion here, right? Does the fact that I start crypto trading, does that immediately, is that my entry point to becoming a millionaire? Or is it a different journey? Is it a more real journey of understanding, of losing than winning then maybe losing again and then winning again? Tell us a little about.

:: 05:00

Grant

Up to it's really up to the individual. We encourage people in the very first week, once they start learning the basics, to start taking trades with literally a dollar, to really cut their teeth on amounts of money that they can lose, and to start building their rule system, start understanding their strengths and weaknesses and start to polish their trading. And we had a woman speak on stage at one of the events saying that for the last three years she's been trying and failing, really just not getting it right. And after finishing the course, literally, it's actually still during the course she had taken ten trades and she had won seven of them and she was just absolutely ecstatic because the system works. Sheldon as well. He's not just taught the system that he developed on his own, it's his mom, it's close friends and OG.

:: 05:52

Grant

Craig for example, who's really they've gone through all the hard knocks so that we don't have to and they teach us what not to do, how to control our emotions. Craig lost almost 800 bitcoin in his time. Yeah, and the crazy thing is that he's made it back. And that's the amazing thing, is that to answer your question, anyone can take a small amount of money and you can build it into wealth for yourself and you can hold on to that wealth. It's really just about building your rule system, about having a systematic approach and about keeping a trading journal, which people just don't do. If you record every trade, you can actually record your mistakes. You can understand where you're going right and where you're going wrong and you can improve. And that's what it's all about. So it's really up to you. If you've got a lot of time, you can trade daily.

:: 06:41

Grant

Absolutely. That could be your first step towards becoming a millionaire. If you're only able to trade once a week, once a month. You could have a longer term approach and grow your wealth that way. But in either case, really, I encourage everyone to go through the course and to really benefit from all these hard lessons that the team have.

:: 07:02

You know, Grant, I'm glad that you pointed that one out, right, because those are, again, notions to dispel when it comes to trading. There's a lot of misinformation that's out there. There's a lot of perceptions that are out there that need to be broken and the reality that comes in. And I know that we have a number of the current students or your past alumni from the sniper school in the room. And if you're here, I'd like you to raise your hand so that our hosts can make you a speaker and you can add how things have changed for you or what you've learned or just a shout out to sniper school. So raise your hand so that we can give you an opportunity to speak. Or if not, you can go ahead and tweet it out, of course, to the crypto school or you can tweet it out to AdLunam Inc on Twitter.

:: 07:55

Ask us a question if you have one. Tell us a little about Sniper school, because the end game, ladies and gentlemen, those of you that are here and those of you that are going to continue to listen to this later on, is that you can get this education. You're getting this education for free. It's going to change your perspective about how crypto works, about how you can develop your wealth, how you can make a better future. And just like the sailors of old who used to read the stars and the stars to take them to new destinations, reading the charts at this point of time is going to take you exactly there, because that's what we've been hearing all this while from the sniper school, from the ad lunar founders that are in the room. And please add in your journey as well, right. So, Grant, Meghan, Jason, I see Nadja has got cut off, but we'll put that question back to her later up.

:: 08:51

When you come across these stories, can you share with us more of those, at least one of those that has been a testament to what you are doing is right. I mean, you've had to have heard some of these stories in the school. And Jason, from your side also from your experiences, tell us some of those stories. Tell us some of those stories so that we know that's real for the audience that are here.

:: 09:24

Grant

I'm looking at you, Terry Lynn and Chaos Sai. I know you guys are mods in the crypto school community. I'd love you to share one or two stories. If you guys have any that are coming to mind and just ask to speak on stage, it would be wonderful to hear from you guys in the meantime, I'm actually going through my desktop quickly to find some of these testimonial screenshots that I took. Just give me a moment and I will share some of yeah. Or Megs, as know, weigh in if you can recall some of the stories. I'll be back in a sec.

:: 10:02

Okay? If not, Jason, if you'd like to start one of your favorite stories of how you've seen crypto change someone's life or perspective or their outlook, go for it. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, while that's happening, I'm certain that there's so many that they are filtering from because I understand that they've been in this space for a long time. Our speakers in the room have been in the space for a long time. There will be multiple stories, a plethora of stories, if you will, that come up. And okay, I see that Chaos has got speaker status. Chaos, go for it. Tell us your story. Okay, so, ladies and gentlemen, while he's doing that, I see that Chaos has the ability now to be able to share their story. You can hit the mic and then go for it. Or if there are more people inside the room who'd like to share or comment about how this has really been life changing for them, please unmute and Tell us that while we're waiting for those guys to come.

:: 11:13

Grant

I found one of them, and I wish I could just post this as a screenshot here, but the spaces don't allow for that. But this Christian Samborg, he made a comment one of the live events he said, have been following you since May. And I just paid for a vacation for my family with my earnings. Thank you. Lots and lots. Someone next. Paul Morton. Shorted twice for the first time, and I won both trades. Vicki Barlow Simplification. This has changed my whole way of looking at trading. I was trying to do everything at once. Let's have a look and see. I have attended many trading courses, costing me a lot of money. This is the first course where I actually understood what's going on. I work full time from six to seven and most nights, and this course gave me hope.

:: 11:59

Grant

Thank you. Forever grateful. And let's see what else I can find here.

:: 12:05

Sure.

:: 12:06

Grant

Here we go. Massive shout out to Sheldon, Mama Sniper, Gina , Grant, Ron the rest of the team for putting together this course. It's truly a game changer, and it has already set me on a new course in life. Thank you guys so much for everything. Looking forward to being part of the family for a long.

:: 12:21

Super. Super. Okay, Grant, I'm going to pause a second and get Chaos. Go ahead, Chaos.

:: 12:27

Speaker - Chaos

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. How are you all? Thank you very much for the chance to come and speak. Can you hear me okay?

:: 12:34

Grant

Yeah. Marvelous.

:: 12:35

Marvelous.

:: 12:36

Speaker - Chaos

kind of fleet scooted over in: 2018

:: 13:31

Speaker - Chaos

You should be here because you believe in the future, because you believe in adoption, because you believe in a new way of life and finally going to get one over on the proxy bankers and everything else. So one of the things that I wanted to say is whoever's in the audience who's new, who's not sort of been involved in Web3 yet or anything like that, if you're starting out, don't just have the opinion that, oh, let's all make some money really quick, let's not take the lessons and then jump. What you might find is that you jumping on board and you're staying on board, and you're the next Elon Musk, for want of a better word, because you'll understand how it works. You don't need to make the quick buck. You can be in it for the long haul, and you're the ones that you can project us all into the future.

:: 14:20

Speaker - Chaos

I mean, not enough people say, these people just like, it's all very well for educating yourself, but you should definitely stay. Thanks.

:: 14:32

Grant

So well said. And I want to share another one I found. This is the last one I'll share. This is a direct email we got from Cryptoclouds@gmail.com. He said, thank you for all the hard work and effort that went to making sniper school. I feel really special being selected to participate today was the first trade I made in over twelve months that I really made any money. It was 59% in one trade and directly as a result of participating in sniper school. So I've 90% down in total, and now I feel like I have the chance to work my way back. Eating the elephant one mouthful at a time. These stories are countless. You asked for specific examples and I was just able to pull those all up just from sort of my personal screenshots that I keep on my desktop over time. But if went to collate them, there would just be hundreds and hundreds of them.

:: 15:22

Grant

I mean, really, at the live events, people are stepping onto stage all the time sharing how they're finally starting to win trades, how the system is being simplified for them. Because really, guys, you can get so complex with this. There are hundreds of indicators that you can use and the course simplifies it into the top ten and you can choose from that, the ones you want to use, or you can use Sheldon's system, but the system works. Really. I've been alongside these people. These are real people. This is not a made up thing. I've seen their lives change. I've seen Sheldon and his mom, they've just moved to Cape Town with what they've made. They just went on a snow holiday last year in December for the first time, which was a dream of his mom for many years. And you should just see them when they came back, absolutely glowing.

:: 16:04

Grant

And it's amazing that they're able to give back in this know, Sheldon is actually devoting his career now, his crypto career, to the school. He's actually going to not be doing that many shows. He's going to be spending most of his time in the discord with the students, doing live trades, in the sessions, running courses, and actually improving the content over time to make it even clearer. But the feedback has been absolutely phenomenal. If you go onto the main channel and I think on some of the AdLunam channels as well, socials, you'll find some of the crypto school ads that just actually have those video testimonials from real students and you can see for yourself the proof is in the pudding. And if you apply these things and if you decide that you're going to do it, you can learn and anyone can learn.

:: 16:51

onto a waiting list that was: 9500

:: 17:41

And he told me at a time when Solana was at around $100 and it was somewhere there. And I thought to myself, hey, Solana looks great. Sounds good. And whatever, I'm going to go against the grain. I'm going to go try that. And I took that trade, right? And I bought Solana. I put a few hundred bucks in it, and I watched it tank. I watched it tank in a span of weeks to 45, go all the way down to twelve. And it was, unfortunately, because I didn't know better that's the time that I got out, right? I didn't know anything that I could have learned in the school about dollar cost averaging, about learning how to read the charts, about doing anything that would have helped. And I can resonate personally with so many people that are in the room. And some of the feedback that you've got is that all you do is end up losing it.

:: 18:33

People around me tell me the same thing. I tried investing in crypto, but, hey, can you tell me something that can actually win? And you know the moment that they're saying that is because they may have followed the wrong kind of people, the wrong kind of influencers who know what they know just because the market's on a bull run, right? You know for a fact that is your reliance on investors. That sort of ROI is not where you want to be. The ROI you want to get is when you put your money in. You know how you make the trade, you know when to stop. You're doing it through a system. And it's fantastic that Sniper school has been pushing this agenda for so long. AdLunam is extremely happy to be able to get this with the community, to join hands and push the agenda outwards, because education is everything, and it's going to be life changing for everybody that learns it.

:: 19:36

They have an opportunity to learn a skill that is a lifelong skill, a skill that you can take well into your retirement, no matter what job you do. At this point, this may also end up being my retirement plan. It could be your retirement activity, right, where you make a few trades, you know that you have your Sustenance, because today you no longer have a pension system. In most countries, you don't have Social Security, right? And you've got to, in many ways, fend for yourself. So how do you get smarter about the future that is changing? And that's something that we have to learn. That's something that we have to pour some time into today so that we have a future tomorrow.

:: 20:25

Grant

So well said, so well said. So, before we wrap up, I wanted to ask Meg. Meg, if you could share with us just some of the stuff that's happening in Discord that you've seen and some of the things that we're introducing just so guys get a sense of what they're actually being invited into when they join the school.

:: 20:48

Meg, you're on mute. Just in case you're saying something.

:: 20:56

Meghan

Could you repeat your question. Sorry.

:: 21:00

Grant

Yeah, sure thing, Meg. I was just saying, can you share some of what's happening in the you know, as the head of community, just what you've been seeing there and what people here can expect once they join the school.

:: 21:11

Meghan

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot happening in Discord. We have some awesome channels that you can join, voice channels and stages where we host events. Our moderator community, including our sniper mentors and our support team are in there often like at least I would say six or seven sessions a week, where we're kind of averaging at this point to get your questions answered or dive in and ask specific things about trading and strategies or market conditions, you name it. Or even very basic questions like, hey, how do I find this trading pair in Binance? Right? It's just an amazing and helpful group of people. And then we also have some awesome elements of competition with leaderboards across each team, ways to get involved and just kind of promote engagement in our server individually and as a team. I also personally love the stickers that we have in the Discord speaking myself and the gifts that kind of fly around.

:: 22:11

Meghan

It's just a fun, great atmosphere if you're into Discord and you like communities. I'm selfish, but I have to say it's the best discord I've had the chance to start leading and build out and group of people. It's just very organic. It's very organic.

:: 22:34

Grant

Sorry, Meg. I was going to say one of our first ever moderators who was actually part of the very first intro course, she's asking to be led onto the stage as a speaker. So, JP, I don't know if you can have a look and find Terry Lyn.

:: 22:49

Meghan

Terry Lynn?

:: 22:49

Grant

But Terry Lynn, she said she just asked, so let's see if we could bring her.

:: 22:55

Sure, sure. I'm going to ask our host to be able to do that. Let's look for Terry Lyn. Terry Lyn, if you could raise your hand, we'd be able to find you quicker because I see wow, there's a lot of people in the room.

:: 23:08

Speaker 1

Grant, can I just add something while we're waiting for Terry, please, brother.

:: 23:14

Speaker 1

One of the things that I really love about the discord is that there's something for everybody. So as Meg just said, we've sort of got AMAs. The group of mods among pushing hard is the ability to look through someone's eyes who's completely new to the web space. So we're hosting how to open a wallet, what is a wallet, what is wallet security, how to keep your seed phrase safe, all that sort of thing. We're sort of taking Sheldon's and everybody else's education and we're basicizing it, for lack of a better word, to make sure that absolutely everybody who's new to the space has got a way in. So for anyone that's new and is concerned, we got you covered, don't worry.

:: 24:04

Oh, that's you one of the things, Grant, I think we haven't touched upon before we get somebody else in, we haven't touched upon the simplicity of the course, the way that you guys break stuff down. Tell us a little about that before we get back to the stories.

:: 24:22

Grant

Sure thing. So it's actually a pre-recorded course. I was in the room with Sheldon as we recorded each one of these lessons, and we've broken it up into these bite sized videos, and we put it into a web app. So it's really easy to use it's linear. So you go through each lesson at a time, and you build your understanding from the ground up. And then it's great that way because it means that if you've got a few minutes on your commute, you can listen to a video, you can relisten to those videos. And then, of course, we've got the live events as well that happen at the end of each week. So we've got a launch event, and then we've got three workshops that we run. And it's really been amazing to see. We've got almost 80% of the people who are coming through from the first live event, who are attending the other live events all the way to the end.

:: 25:05

Grant

And so, really, that speaks volumes to just how engaged people are, even newbies, who haven't traded before, we really do hold their hands. And as SA was saying, the support in the discord will fill in all the gaps that anyone has in their understanding. And so, in total, really, this is the way to get in. I really recommend anyone who wants to get into the space, join the school. I see. Terry Linza, speaker. Welcome, Terry.

:: 25:32

Speaker 2 - Terry

Hi, Grant. Can you hear me?

:: 25:36

Meghan

Okay, fantastic.

:: 25:38

Speaker 2 - Terry

So I just want to give you a little bit of my story. So I'm a homeschooling mom. I schooled three children from the beginning, right to the end. So education is a passion.

:: 25:49

Speaker 2 - Terry

I joined up for crypto school because we started listening to Rand show, and it was interesting and it was something new for us. Now, I will say I'm a little bit older, and technology has not been my friend. But my sister Sunshine, who's also a moderator, she's definitely more technologically advanced. So we joined the crypto school, the first one, which taught us what a blockchain is, et cetera, and we just loved it. And we formed a group of people because we started in the school, you have a group of people that you're interacting with, which was amazing. So as I've homeschooled my children, they've done online courses. And all these online courses, you read it or you watch a little video, but there's no interaction with human beings on the other end. Now with Sniper school and crypto school, the most amazing thing is you've got these beautiful bite sized little videos that explain things in a way that is so easy to understand.

:: 26:50

Speaker 2 - Terry

Not only that, if you don't understand it, what you do is you go to our discord community, and there are people that just have the time to help you. And I can tell you that our last cohort, there were a lot of older people who really battle a little bit with technology. And our moderators are unbelievable. So if they didn't understand how to open an exchange, for example, they would come into the community and say, hi, I don't know how to transfer crypto from one exchange to the next exchange. And I promise you, we would have a moderator there and they would sit for 20 minutes to 2 hours. And if they didn't want to write down the conversation, we have something called a chill and chat. Then what happens is the moderator jumps into the chill and chat with the student. We can share a screen with them and we are literally helping them as they are going through the course.

:: 27:44

Speaker 2 - Terry

Now, for me, coming through 20 years of homeschooling, this is one of the best educational courses that I've come across. And yes, I'm part of the team. So I know I'm biased, but honestly, there is human interaction. Nobody is left out in the cold. Even people who are shy and doesn't want to ask a question in a chat, we then have a system. They just say, can I chat with somebody? And we'll say, open a ticket. And we will in a general ticket. And we literally will talk them through whatever they need to know. So, from my perspective, please, if you are scared of crypto, if you're scared of trading, there's no need to be scared. We are there to help each individual person. We literally help individuals. It's not just classes of 100 or ten people even. We will help you on an individual level.

:: 28:42

Speaker 2 - Terry

And it's just been so mind blowing to me that the people in this community just are there to help each other. The students in the chats, they are helping each other. It is just a phenomenal thing to me. Coming from Cape Town, people say that we're quite know with not making friends, but in this situation, people just come together and they just connect and help each other. And from that perspective, it's mind blowing to me. So that's all I have to say.

:: 29:16

Thank you, Terry. Absolutely love that. And I'm glad that you disclosed that you are part of the team. I'm also glad that you mentioned that you're technologically challenged, because there was a time that the most technology that a lot of us operated was just power windows in a car, if were lucky to have a car.

:: 29:39

So we can totally understand that. But it's beautiful that you share that you have one on one interactions with your peer group, with the moderators in the group, you're not just left alone. And this is something that you would expect from a paid course, right? But you're. Talking about a system where you're giving away education for free. And you can see that the system is so well thought of and designed, and especially as a homeschooling mom, you know how much more that one on one interaction means than if somebody were in a so thank you for sharing that. That's absolutely brilliant.

:: 30:17

Speaker 2 - Terry

It's a pleasure. Thank you very just that's know, education for me is so important and so yes.

:: 30:24

Nadja

Thank you.

:: 30:27

You're welcome. Terry, Chris, you've been waiting to say please, the stage is yours.

:: 30:33

Speaker 3 - Chris

How you doing, man? I'm one of the moderators in the crypto school as well. I just wanted to say the reason why crypto school is needed, it doesn't matter what market you're coming from. A lot of people don't understand that every market is different. So what I noticed in Cohort Two, right, and then what I noticed from some people in one of my telegram groups that I have is a lot of people that are coming from the stock market, they think that crypto is going to react the same exact way that the stock market reacts. And that is not accurate. Like, yes, we have these indices that Bitcoin follows for the most part, right. But crypto is still its own entity. It moves differently than actual stock market people are used to. Yes, there's volatility in the stock market, but people are used to only being able to trade on the five and ten minute time frames, right, and making a whole bunch of money to trade like that.

:: 31:40

Speaker 3- Chris

Crypto sometimes is extremely stale, and then you're going to get these scammy pumps and you got to actually know how to protect yourself in this space. So it doesn't matter what trading level you are. You have to take a course like this because otherwise you're not going to understand what's going on. You're just going to be trying to trade crypto like you trade everything else, and you're going to either miss out on a lot of money, or you're going to lose a lot of money because you don't know what you're amen.

:: 32:10

Chris.

:: 32:11

Grant

Sorry.

:: 32:11

Go ahead.

:: 32:12

Speaker 3 - Chris

Yeah, and another thing, too, like Terry Lynn was saying, like Grant and Meghan was saying, it allows you to actually learn from other people as well, because a lot of people don't understand, even though you know a lot, you teaching somebody else and learning what they know. That gives you so much more knowledge because you're being able to actually look into and see the way other people are seeing things. And then a light bulb might come off in your head and you might be like, wow, I never thought to Look at it like this.

:: 32:46

Speaker 3 - Chris

Just because somebody knows less than you, they can still teach you something. And I have a group of traders now, it's like 100 of us, and I'm learning from them and they're learning from me. A lot of them are coming from different markets so they don't even know what's going on. But just off of a lot of them are fresh brains, so they haven't seen what's going on. So they go through the crypto school, right, and then they take everything away. Sheldon teaches it, right? And then next thing you know, they're charting, and then they post the charts in my group or whatever, and they have an idea on the chart, and I'm like, wow, why didn't I see that?

:: 33:31

Yeah, totally. It takes a village to raise a child. That's a popular saying. But even for anyone to keep their skills sharp, you need to have a peer group that you can bounce these ideas off. You need to have a peer group that keeps you on your toes, that you can exchange ideas with. And that's really how we all grow and develop as people, no matter what expertise we bring to the and as you said, I want to say that I've been dying to say this for the longest time. When you say that you've got to watch out for these fake pumps. As Rand says on the show, respect the pump. Respect the pump.

:: 34:10

Grant

Yes.

:: 34:13

Speaker 3 - Chris

Respect the pump.

:: 34:16

Amen. Amen. All right. Okay. This is one of the things, also that I love about the banter FAM and of course, crypto Banda, the channel, 600,000 plus people. It's phenomenal that you guys were able to increase that number in such a short time. There's so much of fun if you just watch the channels. There's so much of authenticity the moment you listen to the in depth analysis and data that's there. So for those of us that are not subscribed to it, I'm going to shout out that go ahead and subscribe to crypto banter. You'll find them on YouTube. They have a giveaway that they're having at this point of time. I want to bring that out there as well. You could walk away with a brand new rolex, right. And remember to sign up to the sniper school as well. Most importantly, sign up to the sniper school just so that you can empower yourselves, empower your lives, and learn what this entire great family is talking about from the education, and you're getting it for free.

:: 35:20

Grant, I'm going to ask you this. I'm going to put you on the spot and ask you, how much would you value a course like this? What is the dollar value of a course like this if somebody had to pay for it?

:: 35:31

Grant

Well, look, the course itself, similar courses go into the thousands of dollars, literally $2,000. And had one of the Kyle, actually, one of the main traders go through the sniper school, and he was saying, this is better than a course he did that was $10,000. And that's his perspective on it. Yeah, absolutely. But really, it's not even about that. Not just the quality of the education and the teaching. Actually, what's really priceless is our moderators. It's our discord community. It's our mentors, it's everyone in the sniper school who's supporting one another. Just as Chris was saying. That is priceless. You can't buy that. I mean, it's real relationships that you build with people that you actually get in touch with, even on a daily level, if that's what you're keen to do. And that really is valuable.

:: 36:21

Okay, Grant, you've asked a question, you've given me an idea, but now I'm too curious right now. I'm not going to sleep until I know the answer to this one. And I'm going to throw this question not just to Grant, but to Megan, to Chaos, to Chris and Terry. If she comes back on, I see I've lost her, but that's okay. But I want to really want to know, what's your secret sauce? What's your secret sauce of keeping everyone so motivated, so giving and wanting to continue to be part of this? And it's not just, hey, okay, I've learned what I've had to learn. Goodbye, but I'm here to stay for the long haul. What is that?

:: 37:06

Grant

The best way to appear to be something is actually to be that thing, really. It's authenticity. And that's what we've really tried to imbue into the course from the get go, literally, the ethos of crypto and of Bitcoin specifically as the starting point and as the big daddy. It's all about transparency. It's all about a free and fair financial system. It's about the people running a system for themselves. And so because of that, it's like that essence of crypto. That's what we've tried to bring through the school. And really, if I can say we're succeeding at that, we're really seeing people connect. We're taking the time to build the kind of culture where we genuinely care about people. We go after the individual, we care about the individual. And so the only way to really see that for yourself is to join the course and to see it in action.

:: 38:00

Grant

But as you just said, JP, that really is the thing that makes this so.

:: 38:06

Chaos. Chaos. Way in here. Way in here. Please give me something more than what Brand is doing, because he's selling. I can see that. I can spell that a mile away.

:: 38:13

Speaker 1- Chaos

Well, listen, you know what keeps people around? I mean, he just called it out straight up, saying you go after the one person. If I can give you a couple of specific examples. I mean, Terry Lynn already just said that if someone is struggling on our discord server, one of the support staff or one of the mods will sit there and they'll spend a couple of hours if they're new to the industry. I'll give you an example. I hosted a couple of weeks ago, a security AMA, and I explained how ledgers work and wallets and everything else, and somebody messaged me afterwards and they said, look, I don't understand what a software wallet is. And he kept saying, to me, oh, is it just like a computer version? You open your wallet and all the moths fly out. I was like, look, and I went through and I said, listen, you've got all these different software from MetaMask to trust wallet to Solana chains.

:: 39:05

Speaker 1- Chaos

And went through everything from and I must have spent two and a half hours just explaining that a software wallet is purely a place on the new Internet web three, where you can have your coins and tokens and no one can touch them. Unless, of course, you're careless or there's a hack or something or whatever, but once they're in your wallet, it's your currencies. This is your piece of the future. I just said you've got to be able to take control of everything that you stand for in your life. The second you take the dollars out of a bank account, which are depreciating at a disgusting rate, and you put them into Bitcoin or whatever currency you choose, and you stop having your currency eaten away by ever inflating rates of the world and so on, and then you take in these currencies for the future.

:: 39:56

Speaker 1- Chaos

And by the end of a couple of hours, he literally could then tell me what a blockchain was. And that is exactly what this is going after the number one, every single person on this server has got a different level of experience. And if someone comes up to any one of our mods, of which there's a good handful of them in this call and says, look, I don't understand what's cardano there will be someone in the team that knows what cardano is. Or there's someone in the team that knows how ethereum or layer twos work or arbitram or whatever. And there'll be someone in the team that can say to you how to store your 24 word phrase or whatever. And Grant's called it perfectly. The thing that keeps everybody together is the fact that when you've had a really crappy day at work or the market has just taken a bite out of your ass because you've lost a huge trade or you got stopped out or whatever happened.

:: 40:51

Speaker 1- Chaos

There's always someone on this team that A is experiencing it with you. And then you can console yourselves together, and then you can make a plan to come back. Or there's someone that's been through it 50 times, and we've all got the experience yourself.

:: 41:05

Speaker 1- Chaos

You've been around for years. You've got the experience to hold these guys hand and carry them through and make a success. If we can make a success out of everybody in sniper school for free and doing it the way that we're doing it, then we have done more than our fair share of bringing everybody into the future. And I think the thing that keeps people together is the ability for our mods to be completely tireless and for the admin staff to be completely able anytime to drop everything and call all of us mods in for a meeting 15 times a week if necessary to improve on stuff. So that's what keeps everyone together. It's a family. Family comes first. And a family isn't just the people you know, it's all the people that you don't even know yet that are going to join you. And this is a vision.

:: 41:53

Well, it certainly seems to be playing out exactly how you guys envisioned it. If you've been there since the first Cohort, this is down the line people and have been part of this community, this family, for so long. That's fantastic. I see Sayyun has also jumped in. So Sayyun, you want to weigh in with some thoughts?

:: 42:17

Grant

Go ahead, sure.

:: 42:20

Speaker 4 - Sayyun

I was part of the second Cohort too, and I'm from not so sunny California and I'm retired and I got into trading a number of years ago, like Grant said, by spending a boatload of money on a technical analysis course, which was wonderful. And I traded foreign exchange for quite a while. And then I saw crypto because I was using Bitcoin to transfer funds from my bank account to the foreign exchanges. And I noticed that every time I moved Bitcoin around I kept making more money. I did that when it went from ten thousand dollars to forty thousand dollars, at which point I woke up and said, something's going on here. Anyway, I started following Crypto banter and then was very excited for the course. And first I got to say that the quality of the course material that is basically given away is as high, if not higher than what I spent thousands of dollars on before, straight up.

:: 43:28

Speaker 4 - Sayyun

But what really got me excited was a thing a lot of people don't talk about is that almost everything I've ever gotten good in my life, I did with having mentors and having a community to hold your hand and help you get off the ground. But once I took my trading course, there I was, back alone in my room staring at charts and screens and it was all by myself. And when I went through the sniper school and came out, it was like all of a sudden I wasn't alone anymore. Right. I could say, hey, I don't understand this, I don't understand that. And immediately there are a whole bunch of people chiming in with ideas and thoughts and perspectives that really made it so I literally didn't feel alone anymore.

:: 44:24

Sorry, is that just me or did we lose sound for a second?

:: 44:28

Speaker 7

I've lost him as well.

:: 44:31

Grant

Okay.

:: 44:31

But the perspective is taken. Totally understand that. I know that we're coming into the end of the show, so I'm going to ask you all I've lost son.

:: 44:45

Speaker 4 - Sayyun

Of my phone, so I'm going to turn my mic off, okay?

:: 44:49

No, that's absolutely fine. If you want to complete that, go ahead. I think we lost you somewhere just towards the end of that sentence.

:: 44:57

Speaker 4 - Sayyun

Okay, I got it back. Somehow my phone turns the sound off sometimes. No, it's just that it was like the missing spice to the sauce of trading was having a group of people that are other beginners and experts in different domains, from day trading to spot trading to DeFi, to knowing about what the tokens are and what the purpose of the companies behind them are. Having all that stuff in one community and being able to have access to them and with so much support and so much love. Personally, I've been in lots of communities in my life. This is special.

:: 45:40

Awesome. Thank you so much for that. Sayyun okay, this is it, ladies and gentlemen, I think we've reached the end of our show. Hang on a second. I've got one question that's come in from one of the AdLunam family. Nikki has asked this question, so I'm going to put it out there just so that we can give her answer. Grant okay. Is it important to understand economic indicators to predict market trends? I know that's a bit heavy, but is that something that Sniper school will take care of and how?

:: 46:12

Grant

Sure. I mean, look, you need to do a fundamental analysis along with your technical analysis. And I'd say those economic indicators are also part of your fundamental analysis. And so that's absolutely part of what we cover. And I think watching crypto banter as a show is probably also the best way to get those kinds of indications because our team is so on the cusp of what's happening in major projects and in the world, and we're giving the best possible alpha that you can get in the space on a daily basis. And so I'd say to her, follow that channel for those kinds of indications and take sniper school for the technical analysis.

:: 46:53

Super all right, thank you for that. Grant okay. That being said, Grant, one last thing. I think the question that's there on everybody's mind is why are we getting this course for free? How can you guys do it?

:: 47:08

Grant

So all of the exchanges offer anyone who wants to bring in referrals, they offer them a percentage of their trading fees and so anyone's able to use that. And so we've taken that model. And when you sign up for sniper school, there's three steps that enable us to give it to you for free. The first step is that you sign up for a new exchange account using one of our referral links, and it means that we can make some bucks and generate the revenue to run the school through those trading fees. And so you're going to pay them anyway. You could come in on your own link, but if you come in on ours, you're helping us to build the school. You're putting a weight behind that. And the beautiful thing is that many of these exchanges allow you that we offer. There's four of them and they're the most reputable, some of the biggest in the world.

:: 47:53

Grant

We've done our research to keep the community safe. They've allowed us to bring people in that way en masse. And so that's really how we do it. And the second step is that we ask people to deposit in $100 so that they can actually start trading. If you don't have any dollars, how are you going to trade? You have to start somewhere. And so we've set that at $100. And the beautiful thing is that doesn't go to us. That goes directly into your wallet. That's your money. You get to trade with it. It's your starting capital. And then the third step is just to register for free on the site and put in your user ID from that new exchange. And then we've got relationships with the exchanges where they will let us know when someone has deposited that $100. And as soon as you've done those three steps, you get an email that will give you access to the first lessons and off you go.

:: 48:45

Grant

So really that's how we've monetized it. We've been able to do it without having to charge anything to people. And also by charging $100 in the sense of the steps, it helps people take the course more seriously because when something so good is absolutely free, it can be devalued. And as you've heard from Sion, and I absolutely love that story, he said this course is as good, if not better, than the one that he paid thousands of dollars for. And I mean, that just speaks volumes. And so really, that's how we've been able to keep it free. And one of our promises to our whole community is that crypto school and our courses will always be free because our whole mission as the school is to drive the adoption of crypto and of bitcoin. And that's one of the ways that we can do it.

:: 49:33

Awesome. Thank you for sharing that, Grant. So ladies and gentlemen, you've heard it here, this course is free. You know now how that's done, you know that you're getting supported by the exchanges that are part of this particular program. And the crypto banter FAM has been able to work out a model where it is no cost to you and everybody wins, right? Including that $100 that you're putting. I understand before it used to be $250, but right now your barrier to entry has become that much easier. Okay? So that being said, that's it. Ladies and gentlemen, we come to the end of the show. I want to thank everybody here for spending that time. Grant, I know that we discussed this show just being on for an hour, but we've extended that time. And I'm glad actually that we did it because I'm very particular about time.

:: 50:29

But I'm glad that we did it because were able to cover so much ground about the wonderful stuff that's out there. Double down on the effort to more education and more adoption and continue this mission forward. So. Thank you, Grant. Thank you to the band FAM that's in the moderators that are in. Megan has dropped off chaos. Chris Sayyun, Terry. That weighed in earlier. Jason, thank you for being here. And Nadja, I know that you're not there, but you're going to listen to this later. Thank you so much for being on the show despite being at the NFT Paris event. Grant, quick point, shout out to Jason. Jason and myself just came back from an event that was being held in Goa, and it's remarkable, when we told them to join in this show as well, is one of the things that actually excited them.

:: 51:18

So I'm happy to see where this road leads. Thank you so much for making sniper school possible. Thank you so much for joining the efforts with the AdLunam family as well to bring this out to the masses. We're going to continue this mission. Ladies and gentlemen, remember to sign up for Sniper school. You can find the links. If you go to AdLunam Inc. And join in through the AdLunam community, you will get a direct entry in. Follow those three steps so that you can benefit from this program. That being said, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for being part of the show today. Once again, I'm JP from AdLunam Inc. bringing you everything about web3. But more importantly, the Sniper school family has been here on the show today. So thank you very much, everyone. Have a great day. Cheers.

:: 52:06

Grant

Cheers, everyone.

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