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26 - The Rule of 2: The Surprisingly Simple Structure That Helps Habits Stick
Episode 2726th March 2025 • 1,000 Waking Minutes • Wendy Bazilian
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Tired of feeling like you’re either “all in” or “off the rails” when it comes to your habits? In this episode of 1,000 Waking Minutes, Dr. Wendy Bazilian shares the Rule of 2—her surprisingly simple, science-backed system that brings structure without rigidity, and flexibility without guilt.

Whether you’re working on limiting something (like desserts, social media, or alcohol) or building something (like movement, meal prep, or mindfulness), the Rule of 2 helps you move forward with intention—not exhaustion.

You’ll hear how this approach can help you:

  • Avoid decision fatigue
  • Stay consistent without being perfect
  • Build habits that actually last

We’ll walk through the research behind it, offer real-world examples, and of course, take a mindful minute together to pause and reset.

Because when you have a rhythm you can trust—even one that’s just two times a week—you’re more likely to stick with it for the long haul—and that’s where real health and well-being take root.

(10:52) What is the Rule of 2, and how can it reshape the way we build habits?

(12:21) Why structure with flexibility beats “all-or-nothing” thinking in habit change

(12:46) Real-life examples: applying the Rule of 2 to eating, movement, and screen time

(17:23) The mental load of daily decisions—and how planning ahead protects your energy

(23:09) The ROIs: Surprising research on how small rituals support self-control and follow-through

(35:29) A mindful minute to pause, reset, and reflect on your next small shift

(37:50) Key takeaways—and how to put this into practice without overwhelm

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HEALTH DISCLAIMER:

The information shared in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered individual medical or health advice. Always consult with your trusted healthcare provider before making any changes to your diet, exercise, or medical treatment.

REFERENCES:

Fournier, M., Keller, J., Fleig, L., Knoll, N., & Hagger, M. S. (2021). Habit formation following routine-based versus time-based cue planning: A randomized controlled trial. British Journal of Health Psychology, 26(3), 813–830. https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjhp.12504 

Ordali, E., Marcos-Prieto, P., Avvenuti, G., Bilancini, E., & others. (2024). Prolonged exertion of self-control causes increased sleep-like frontal brain activity and changes in aggressivity and punishment. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 121(47), e2404213121. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2404213121

Tian, A. D., Schroeder, J., Häubl, G., Risen, J. L., Norton, M. I., & Gino, F. (2018). Enacting rituals to improve self-control. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 114(6), 851–876.

https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/Enacting%20Rituals%20to%20Improve%20Self-Control_a1680de9-d84b-44c6-8db0-01d05f77c2c3.pdf   

 

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The best habits aren't about doing

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something every day.

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They're about having a plan

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that works in real life.

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A little structure, a little

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flexibility, and a simple approach

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to stay on track without

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getting lost in the BAZILIAN

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daily decisions.

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That's what I call the

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rule of two.

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We experience 1,000 waking minutes

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on average every day.

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How are you spending yours?

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I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian and

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you're listening to 1,000 Waking

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Minutes.

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I can't wait to connect

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with you here with practical

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ways to eat well, move

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daily, and be healthy.

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To optimize every waking minute

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you live for a happier,

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healthier life.

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Thank you for sharing some

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of your waking minutes with

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me today.

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Let's get started.

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Welcome to 1,000 waking minutes.

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I'm Dr. Wendy Bazilian and

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I'm so glad you're joining

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me today.

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You know those moments when

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you're really trying to make

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a new habit, a new

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behavioral change.

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Maybe you're cutting back on

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sugar, trying to move more,

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get more exercise during your

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week, or maybe being more

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mindful of your alcohol consumption.

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And it's going along fine

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until it isn't.

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Maybe it's dessert after dinner

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with friends that you just

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can't resist, or a glass

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of wine after a long,

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exhausting day.

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Or maybe you miss a

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workout because, well, life happens

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and deadlines approach and family

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encroaches on that habit.

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And just like that, one

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moment turns into what feels

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like a slippery slope, like

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you've blown it.

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The voice inside pops in

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and says, well, there it

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goes again.

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So what's the point?

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Or I missed today, so

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I'll just start again next

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week.

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It's an all or nothing

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mindset that's familiar to so

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many of us.

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And it's like total restriction,

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like a free-for-all,

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a falling, and it can

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be exhausting.

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More importantly, it typically doesn't

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work long-term, as you've

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probably, as we've all probably

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experienced at times.

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But what if you had

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a more simple way to

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build habits without feeling so

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restricted?

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Building in flexibility with a

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little routine.

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A way to enjoy the

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things you love, some structure

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without rigidity.

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Flexibility without chaos, though.

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And you can actually progress

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without burnout or what you

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feel like is failure yet

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again.

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So this is ultimately about

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a way to stay on

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track that I'm going to

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talk about today.

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And never feel like you

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failed in the first place,

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because as I've said before,

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and I'll say forevermore, health

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is dynamic, it's not static,

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and we're all works in

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progress.

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So what I want to

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talk about today, and what

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I want to share with

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you, I call the rule

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of two.

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This is something I've used

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for years.

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I've used it with clients,

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I've used it in my

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own life, and what I

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love about it is it's

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simple, it works, and it

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never leaves you feeling like

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you're either on or off

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the wagon, whatever the wagon

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and wherever that wagon is.

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Always wondered about that.

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Of course, I'll bring some

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research to you and some

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practical strategies, because this isn't

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just about ideas and an

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arbitrary rule, it's about what

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actually works.

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So what is the rule

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of two?

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Well, being a numbers and

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science person who is constantly

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trying to make sense of

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the world, aren't we all?

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I use words and practices,

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I pay attention and I

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observe, I research, but things

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that can help keep us

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on our feet, on the

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ground, moving forward, I'm always

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keen to pay attention to.

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And a lot I get

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to thinking about time, as

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you know, and how much

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we accomplish at times with

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our time.

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Those days, those waking hours,

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over days, over months, over

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years.

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Things like habits, and how

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many habits can we acquire

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in a year, I've pondered

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before.

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Does it really take three

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weeks or 21 days to

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establish a habit?

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Well, actually, science says no.

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The median there is closer

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to 60 days.

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Or things like is restricting,

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or maybe more gently, choosing

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to not have a dessert

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once or twice a week,

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if that's something that you're

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trying to change or alter,

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what's the better approach?

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Does it feel like you're

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depriving yourself one way or

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the other?

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What's the strategy?

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What's the mindset?

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Well, if you measure your

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days in minutes, and your

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weeks in hours, and maybe

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your years in weeks or

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days or months, of course,

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what's coming into my mind

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is the Seasons of Love

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song from Rent, if you

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know it.

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They measure your life in

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love, which is Seasons of

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Love, of course.

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But if you think of

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numbers in a bigger context,

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in your days and times,

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and more expansive than just

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right this second or right

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this day, sometimes we can

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find that we have lots

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of opportunities to engage, even

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indulge, in the things that

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we love to do, and

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time to set aside to

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maybe do a little less

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of the things that we're

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trying to curb or change

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in our lives, even when

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we're pulling back or that

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you don't do in certain

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times.

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So this may feel very

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abstract in what I'm saying.

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I'm going to make it

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more concrete in a minute.

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So let's make it more

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specific.

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So I've worked with many

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individuals, smart, achieving, goal-oriented,

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motivated individuals for many years.

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And I'd like to think

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of myself that way at

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times as well.

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But I can see how

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quickly certain roadblocks and obstacles

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can emerge at times when

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certain behaviors that someone is

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consciously expressing interest in changing,

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how hard it can become,

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how the roadblocks come up

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quickly, maybe establishing an exercise

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routine they actually stick to,

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end quote, this time, or

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curbing the sugar in their

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diets, and so on.

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So one day I found

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myself sort of negotiating with

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a client with whom I

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had been working.

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And we had very good

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rapport and banter, a nice

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relationship.

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And he was sort of

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teasing back and forth how

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full restriction actually works.

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And then, well, until it

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didn't.

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It definitely worked, but then

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it didn't.

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And then it became a

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free-for-all again, he

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would say.

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So he was sort of

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arguing a case for just

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give me the plan and

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I'll do it.

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And at the same breath

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saying, I won't like it,

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but I'll do it.

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And I'm not saying that

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I'll do it forever.

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And I just was so

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perplexed, I got to thinking

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that that's just not the

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way to go.

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And as I've said many

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times, I'm not the tough

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love type of person in

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the first place, personally or

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professionally.

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So you'll just get love

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and a million, or dare

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I say a BAZILIAN, attempts

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at figuring out what will

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work for you.

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What is the way to

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find how to make the

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habits stick for your health

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and your lifestyle, your conditions,

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your preferences, your personality, your

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specialized circumstances, your peculiarities maybe

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in a way though, that

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it feels life enhancing, that

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it feels reasonable.

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And maybe even pleasurable if

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possible.

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So it hit me one

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day, could we adopt a

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practice, something different one day

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a week?

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You know, I just, I

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started like, let's think of

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one day, let's think of

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our day as a series

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of minutes.

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Is it too much to

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ask in a seven day

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period to curb something one

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day or to add something

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one day?

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Most people say, well, if

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I'm going to try to

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take on a health habit,

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that's not enough.

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Maybe not.

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Well, you know, it turns

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out that most people can

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do something once a week.

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When they know and when

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they plan, they can do

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it, which is amazing.

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We feel we have enough

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control to actively plan in

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the one.

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How about twice?

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So I started to revisit.

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Well, yes, but you know,

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the but here is planning

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is one thing for one

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day a week, but what

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about spontaneous moments?

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All of a sudden I

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see like certain challenges arise

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with the second day creeping

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in.

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And then dare I suggest

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a third, which I won't,

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you know, I don't know

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what I'll feel like that

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day.

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What if my schedule changes?

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What if I have a

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hard day?

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What if a surprise visitor

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comes?

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What if it's a celebration?

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What if, what if, what

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if?

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There's so many, what ifs

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that we react to in

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our busy active lives where

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we have lots of choices,

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but there was something to

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practicing two times that required

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and showed me that two

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was possible because every day

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we show up, every day

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I'd like to see elements

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of eat well and move

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daily and be healthy.

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But when you're working on

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something very specific, like cutting

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back or adding in a

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behavior, two was a number

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that I could work with.

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And I tried it on

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a lot of people and

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it often worked because two

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times in a week is

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just shy of a third

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of the time, a third

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of your seven days.

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It's not half, it's not

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more than half, it's just

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shy of a third.

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And two in a week

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translates to an opportunity to

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have 104 of something in

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a year.

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If you think 52 weeks

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times two, 104, 104 days

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of practice, of regular routine,

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consistent practice, if you chose

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to expand whatever habit you're

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trying to form to that

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duration, that's relevant.

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So what is this rule

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of two?

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And why does it work?

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Well, the rule of two

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is a simple framework and

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it helps you create structure

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without feeling stuck.

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It works in two ways

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conveniently, depending on whether you're

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trying to limit something or

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build something in.

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Two days in a week

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and not two days in

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a row.

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This is practical and not

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about restriction.

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It's not about getting it

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perfect even every week, but

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making it easier than you

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thought.

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It's about planning one and

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having one that's spontaneous, which

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we'll get to.

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And it's practical.

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Think of it like bumpers

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in the bowling lane, you

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know, the ones we pop

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up for kids so that

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you don't land in the

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gutter.

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It turns out that symbolically,

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those types of bumpers can

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help us adults too while

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we're acquiring new habits.

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The goal isn't to bowl

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a perfect game every time,

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but it is to keep

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yourself out of the gutter,

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right?

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So the rule of two

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keeps you moving forward without

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veering into the all or

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nothing thinking, the gutter.

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I'd like to think of

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that.

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And so I started realizing

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that this could work with

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a variety of practices that

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we often try to do

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or undo in our lives

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because it helps keep you

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from getting stuck in extremes.

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It can give you a

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system that's flexible, but also

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has some structure.

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And it can work with

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habits that can actually help

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them stick over time because

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it's the practice engagement, but

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not through willpower, but through

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consistency.

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As an example, let me

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first apply the rule of

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two for things you want

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to limit but not eliminate.

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Let's say you're working on

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something you want to cut

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back on, but not completely

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eliminate.

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Maybe like desserts, alcohol, perhaps

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it's scrolling on social media,

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or even default ordering takeout

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because you haven't planned dinner

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in advance.

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For some, it might be

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staying up too late watching

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TV every night.

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So the idea of the

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rule of two here is

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that you're going to allow

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and practice building in the

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habit rather than eliminating it

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two times a week.

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You simply allow it in

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as a choice or option

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into your life twice a

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week.

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So you take it off

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the table, the others.

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You plan in the behavior.

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This is where the rule

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of two keeps you from

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feeling like you're constantly making

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a decision because the decision

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is already made.

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It helps you with decision

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fatigue, and you write it

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down and you commit twice

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a week.

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And here's the thing, and

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this is important.

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One is planned and firm.

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You know when you're going

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to do it.

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But one is planned but

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flexible.

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You know it's going to

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be one more time, but

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you don't know when.

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So let's take desserts as

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an example.

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You decide.

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I'm going to ease off

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dessert every night as a

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habit.

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But instead, we're going to

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plan for two nights a

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week that you will have

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your dessert.

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So Saturday night, perhaps, you

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have plans at a favorite

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restaurant that has a fabulous

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pastry chef.

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So there it is.

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It's a planned dessert.

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You don't have to negotiate

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in advance, like I'll have

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a lighter entree so I'll

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have the dessert or I'll

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skip the dessert because, you

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know, none of that.

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You plan it.

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Whatever you order, whatever you're

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doing, you're having dessert on

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Saturday.

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And the other?

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Well, mark it on a

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calendar so you remember.

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So you have a plan.

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But that's the flexible one.

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Let's say a friend invites

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you out for coffee and

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there's a pastry case and

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there's something that looks amazing.

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Or your friend says, hey,

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you want to split this?

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And you feel like yes

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would be the answer you

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want.

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You've got room for it.

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That's the flexible opportunity, and

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it's your second time.

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Ideally, and the idea of

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rule of two, is that

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it's not two days in

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a row.

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So most times, let's make

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it that it's Saturday, but

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it won't be Friday or

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Sunday, but it could be

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any other day of that

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week.

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Because, my goodness, if you've

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had it one time, it

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will never be more than

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a couple days away until

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you get it again.

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So that's really beneficial psychologically,

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not to mention you've made

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the decision.

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It helps you keep it

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as a choice, not as

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a habit that you're doing

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every single day.

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It helps you keep the

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glass of wine from turning

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into a nightly routine, if

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that's something that you're working

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on.

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Or social media can stop

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the scrolling from becoming an

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automatic part of your winding

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down routine.

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It keeps us slightly aware

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without us having to be

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hypervigilant and making a decision,

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am I, am I not,

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scolding yourself when you do

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something.

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And it gives you a

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sense of control without feeling

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deprived, because you always know

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that the activity is right

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around the corner within a

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day or two.

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It forces us also to

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take a look ahead and

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to engage a tiny bit

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in planning.

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So we commit mentally, maybe

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even on paper, I encourage

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that, or digitally on your,

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if you keep your digital

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calendar, but put it on

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your calendar.

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You can code it if

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you share your calendar with

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others so that you know

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what you're doing in your

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rule of two.

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And when you plan, when

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you commit and verbalize to

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yourself or others, you're more

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likely to follow through.

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And here's the thing, two

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times a week is 104

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times a year.

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I've mentioned that before.

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If you're doing something 104

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times a year, can you

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possibly really be deprived?

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It's just a structured way

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of helping you keep in

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balance, keep your mind in

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the game, and be sort

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of lighthearted about some of

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these things that feel like

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dreadful that we're having to

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do all or nothing.

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I'm avoiding desserts this month.

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Gosh, that sounds depressing, just

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saying it.

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So here's another example.

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We're going to flip it.

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For things that you want,

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things you want to be

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consistent with, but not rigid

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about.

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So this may feel like

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a little different than what

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you're used to.

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If you want to be

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consistent, but not obsessive about

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something like exercise, for example,

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this is where the rule

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of two works the opposite

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way.

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Instead of deciding first when

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you will do the thing,

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first decide when you'll take

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a break from the thing.

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So let's say you're trying

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to exercise more consistently, and

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you know I want you

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to move every day in

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some way, but talking about

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the structure, like a exercise

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routine.

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And we also know from

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science that working out or

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doing half hour or more,

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150 minutes a week, that's

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on average about 30 minutes,

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five days a week, that's

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not seven, is consistent with

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health promotion and disease risk

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reduction.

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So I have to work

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out every day is a

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mantra that really is not

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realistic.

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We know that.

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But how about setting your

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two off days first?

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So maybe your planned off

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days are Wednesday.

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Arbitrary here, but let's say

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that's your busy work day,

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and you know you need

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the extra time, and consistently

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it's not a hit, it's

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a miss when you do

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try to do exercise in

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your other attempts over time.

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So Wednesday, it's a day

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off.

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The other day could be

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flexible, because remember the rule

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of two, it's just not

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two days in a row,

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but you can choose to

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be spontaneous with it.

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But let's plan it just

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so we have it into

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the calendar.

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Maybe it's Sunday.

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And again, I'm making this

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up, but let's say Sunday

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is a day that you

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can sleep in.

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Maybe it's a day that

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you want to run errands.

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Maybe you just don't want

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to stress about working out

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that day.

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To some people, exercise brings

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the greatest joy, they can't

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wait to do it, they're

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all in.

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Other people exercise is a

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little bit getting over the

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hurdle, like I know it

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makes me feel good, I

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know I need to do

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it, I know that it's

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part of my active life

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that I want to live,

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but I don't always love

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it, and I do enjoy

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my days off, and I

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do enjoy other things, and

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that's fine.

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So what does this all

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do?

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Well, it makes your workout

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days automatic.

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It doesn't allow you to

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think like, should I work

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out today?

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No, because you already know

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that today's the day because

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your day off is planned.

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Or worse, like thinking all

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day about it.

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I don't know if you've

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done that.

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I have, and I've had

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to re-up my rule

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of two on this one.

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You think all day about,

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like, I've got to get

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my workout in.

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You're beating yourself up figuratively,

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practically, literally, as you crawl

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into bed thinking you've failed.

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If that sounds familiar, and

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I've been there before, most

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of us have, then the

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rule of two can really

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help.

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If it's a day off,

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there's no sweating about it.

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I took this day off.

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If it's your spontaneous day

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off, then it resets the

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next day automatically as a

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workout day, and you can

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feel motivated and enthusiastic even

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about that.

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When you plan the days

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off, there's really no debate,

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no guilt, no talking yourself

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in or out.

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And why?

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It removes the decision fatigue.

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You'll hear me say that

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in a variety of ways

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today.

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You don't spend energy wondering

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if today's the day to

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work out or not.

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And it may even make

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the days on, dare I

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say, more solid, more rewarding,

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because you do have days

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off on the horizon and

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as part of your well

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-lived and balanced life.

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So you're not falling off

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if you miss a day.

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You've planned for it.

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It creates a rhythm.

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It makes consistency feel more

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natural.

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And it allows you to

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feel like you have some

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say here and some control

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with flexibility, too.

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So let's really be realistic,

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though, about this.

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Even the best intentions, even

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with the rule of two,

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can become unraveled at times.

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And that's a fact of

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life.

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But by having the rule,

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you have some guidelines, and

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it's not so extreme that

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you can't adjust.

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You can still be on

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track and successful and making

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progress even if your plan

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upended.

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Seven days in a week

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allows for more than one

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example of removing or fitting

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in something two times.

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So to recap this little

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bit, and then I'm going

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to share some research with

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you, why this works.

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Well, numbers don't lie here,

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too.

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I love a good reality

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check.

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If you limit something to

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twice a week, it's 104

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times in a year.

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That's plenty of opportunity and

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hardly deprivation.

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If you commit to something

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and just take two days

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off a year, for example,

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exercise, that's 260 active days

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a year.

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That's consistency without burnout, and

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that's remarkable.

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So it's enough to see

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progress.

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It's enough to keep momentum

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and enough to make things

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feel like a choice and

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not a chore.

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So that's really the heart

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of it.

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The rule of two isn't

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about being perfect.

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It's about having enough structure

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to keep you moving forward

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without feeling stuck.

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All right, so let's get

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into some of the research

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behind why the rule of

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two actually works because it

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isn't just about making a

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rule and hoping that it

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sticks.

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It's about understanding how we,

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as humans, build habits, make

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decisions, and create sustainable change.

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And there are three really

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important benefits or the ROIs,

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the returns on investment, to

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know about here.

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Benefit number one, habits stick

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when they're structured but not

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rigid.

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A study published in the

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British Journal of Health Psychology

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a couple years ago examined

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how different cues influence habit

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formation, particularly in everyday nutrition

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behaviors.

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So participants were assigned to

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plan their new habit around

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either a routine-based cue,

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like a regular activity, think

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breakfast, or a time-based

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cue, like a specific time

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of day.

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And the findings showed that

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consistency is more lasting than

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frequency.

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It took participants a median

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of 59 days to reach

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peak what they called automaticity.

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I tried to get that

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word for you for today

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to commit that to memory.

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Automaticity in their new habits,

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emphasizing, and making the habits

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automatic is what I mean

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to say with that super

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intellectual word out of the

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science.

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Emphasizing that habits form over

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time with consistent practice.

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That shouldn't be a surprise

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to you, but it's good

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when science shows it.

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But not necessarily just daily

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repetition, but consistency.

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So habits don't have to

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happen every single day to

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stick, but they do need

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to be consistent enough that

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they start to feel automatic.

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So think about something you

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do regularly.

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Maybe it's making coffee in

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the morning or going for

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a walk after dinner.

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Maybe it's checking your phone

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when you wake up.

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You didn't decide one day,

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I will now do this

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every single day for the

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rest of my life.

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No, it just became part

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of your rhythm because you

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did it often enough that

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your brain started to expect

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it.

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And the other piece of

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this research was about what's

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called flexible anchoring.

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And I've talked about this

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before.

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It's about linking or aligning

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behaviors with already existing routines

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or timing.

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So both routine-based and

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time-based cues were effective

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in this research, suggesting that

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linking new behaviors with existing

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routines or specific times can

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help forward or facilitate the

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habit formation without the need

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of a rigid routine.

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So they found that linking

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the behavior to routine-based

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cue like breakfast or after

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lunch or a time like

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9 a.m. each day

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led to stronger and more

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automatic habit formation.

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So this study underscored that

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habits don't require daily execution

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to be ingrained, rather they

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benefit from consistent and a

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flexible structure.

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And this is consistent and

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supports the rule of two

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idea because we can limit

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behaviors but have reasonable access

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to them.

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They don't have to be

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all or nothing.

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For actions like consuming desserts

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or alcohol, if you don't

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have alcohol disease or struggle

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with addiction, of course.

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For allowing yourself indulging or

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participating, I should say better,

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twice a week, one planned

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and one flexible, those two

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occasions.

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It provides both structure without

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complete restriction.

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It reduces the feelings of

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guilt but it gives you

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a plan to act on.

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And it also helps by

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actually helping you practice and

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build the habit in because

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when you take it all

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away, you're not actually practicing.

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So there's no surprise that

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all or nothing becomes nothing

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or all again.

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So for activities like exercise

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or meal prep, scheduling days

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off, those two days off,

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can require and ensures that

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you regularly engage without the

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pressure of daily commitment.

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And it makes a habit

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something that you can grow

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and attain and become sustainable

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with.

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So the key from this

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to remember is that predictability

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coupled with flexibility fosters the

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sustainable habit formation.

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And by implementing the rule

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of two, you create a

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balanced framework to support your

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long-term behavior change, shall

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we say, without the rigidity.

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So predictability and consistency without

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rigidity.

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Benefit number two, too many

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decisions just wear you down.

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I can't even say the

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word decision, too many decisions,

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because there are so many.

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We make micro decisions constantly

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every single day.

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So this is something that

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drains our energy faster than

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any long work day, I

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think, and it's decision fatigue.

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You know the feeling when

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you've spent your day making

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choices, what to wear, what

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to eat, how to respond

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to emails, when to have

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that meeting, when to make

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the calendar plan, what's for

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dinner.

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And by the time dinner

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rolls around, you just can't

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even make another decision, it

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feels like.

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You either order takeout, maybe

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you skip your workout on

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top of it, or you

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just go on autopilot on

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what you've done, whatever's easiest

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at the moment as you

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sort of scroll, I call

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it scrolling, but you open

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the refrigerator and just scroll

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up and down, like what's

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in there?

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This is decision fatigue, and

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it's very real.

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A 2023 study published in

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the Proceedings of the National

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Academy of Sciences found that

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when people exert prolonged self

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-control, when they're constantly weighing

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choices and resisting impulses, their

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brain actually starts to slow

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down.

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You can feel it.

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It's almost like sleep deprivation

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is how it shows up.

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The part of the brain

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responsible for decision-making, the

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prefrontal cortex, shifts into a

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state where it's less efficient

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at making thoughtful choices.

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And what happens when this

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happens?

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People become more irritable, become

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less cooperative, and more likely

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to make impulse decisions.

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And these are decisions that

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they might not have made

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if they weren't so mentally

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exhausted.

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So one media report about

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this study made the connection

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to everyday life, and I

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sort of liked how it

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went, so I'm going to share

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it with you, how about

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after a long decision-heavy

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day that we would be

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more likely to snap at

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someone, to skip a workout,

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or grab whatever is easiest

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to eat?

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Not because we want to,

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but because our mental energy

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is just tapped out.

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So has this ever been

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you?

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As a self-employed and

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driven working mom, I have

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to say it has been

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me before.

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I can certainly relate to

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this.

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So how does the rule

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of two pertain here?

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Well, it can help immediately

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because it removes some of

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the extra decisions about some

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of the very important things

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in our life, like health

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and our health habits that

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we want to work on

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that we know will foster

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feeling good in so many

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ways.

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It literally removes the mental

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gymnastics of should, shouldn't I?

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Instead of constantly debating whether

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you will have the dessert

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tonight, what you're going to

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do, whether you're going to

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have a glass of wine,

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you decide in advance two

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times per week, one planned

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and one flexible.

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That way, when the moment

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comes, the decision is already

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made.

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No guilt, no impulse, no

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energy wasted.

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If that sounds easier said

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than done, just try it.

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Try it.

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You will find that the

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decision made helps you immensely.

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The decision is made.

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There's no all or nothing.

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There's another day, another dessert,

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another whatever it is that

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you're forming.

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It works.

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This makes a real difference,

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and it may be additive

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when you learn how to

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reduce some of that decision

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fatigue through this method.

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So the study, back to

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the study here, it showed

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that people who preplanned decisions,

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they avoided some of the

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mental burnout that led to

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impulsive choices.

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So when we create structure

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around habits, like the rule

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of two, we actually make

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it easier for ourselves to

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stick with those over time.

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When you have a structure

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in place, all you have

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to do is follow it.

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And the third and the

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final benefit I'll share with

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you today is about simple

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rituals, like applying the rule

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of two, that make self

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-control easier.

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Yikes, self-control.

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Can we even talk about

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that?

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Now, this is something that

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many of us often think

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of as a real challenge,

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the challenge of self-control.

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We tend to assume that

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people who stick with their

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habits, who don't overdo on

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desserts or consistently get in

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their exercise, they just have

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more willpower, right?

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And don't get me started

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about willpower topic for another

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day.

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And who is Will anyway?

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And Will wants his power

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back.

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That said, I walk down

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the path.

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But research shows that having

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willpower isn't really the case

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at all.

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A 2018 study published in

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the Journal of Personality and

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Social Psychology looked at how

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rituals, those small repetitive behaviors

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that we do, they actually

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enhance self-discipline and make

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it easier to stick with

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our goals.

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So researchers conducted six experiments

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and they found that when

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people engage in simple structured

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rituals, they were better able

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to resist temptations and follow

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through on their intentions, whether

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that was eating less or

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staying focused or making healthier

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choices.

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One of the experiments had

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participants have like a pre

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-eating ritual that they would

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perform for five days.

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Something as simple as like

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taking a deep breath or

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cutting food in a simple

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way or pausing before taking

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a bite.

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And when compared to the

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group that didn't have the

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ritual, those who did consumed

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fewer calories and reported feeling

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more in control of their

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choices.

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That's from something like taking

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a breath.

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Think of that.

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Another experiment found that when

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people tied a small ritual

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to a goal, like repeating

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a phrase before tackling a

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task or using the same

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prep routine before a workout,

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they found it easier and

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stuck with the behavior longer

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and felt less resistance in

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doing it.

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In fact, small rituals improve

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focus and persistence.

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So why does this matter

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with the rule of two?

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Because the rule of two

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itself is a ritual.

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It's a simple, repeatable framework

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that guides your choices.

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Instead of constantly debating, like

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we've said before, should I,

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shouldn't I?

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You follow a system that's

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already in place.

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And it's this small shift,

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having a plan that you

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stick to, even in a

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flexible way, it can remove

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the mental strain of making

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decisions in the moment.

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It literally provides a clear,

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repeatable system that removes the

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in-the-moment decision fatigue.

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It's really the difference between

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saying, you know, ugh, I

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guess I shouldn't have a

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glass of wine tonight to,

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you know, I already had

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my two this week.

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I'm good.

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Think about that.

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And instead of battling yourself

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about your workout, maybe you

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just celebrate.

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This is a day off.

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Maybe you get to the

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point where you can just

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proclaim it.

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You can say it proudly.

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This is a day off

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without burying it in some

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kind of guilt.

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So when we pre-plan

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decisions and there's a simple

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system in place, we're far

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less likely to be mentally

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exhausted too.

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So remember, simple structure, clear

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decisions make self-control feel

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more natural instead of forced.

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It's less struggle and it's

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how habits stick.

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So we're going to launch

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into some practical tips to

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get us started in a

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moment.

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But because we've digested all

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that, I thought it would

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be good to take a

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mindful minute together first.

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So as you know, in

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most episodes, we do a

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mindful minute together and it's

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our pause to reset, to

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simply be present.

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There's nothing to do and

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it's just a moment for

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yourself.

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So as preparation, put your

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feet grounded on the floor.

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If they're crossed, uncross them.

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You can be seated.

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You could be standing.

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Let's ground our hands, our

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energy, roll your shoulders back

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and let's take a preparatory

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breath in together through your

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nose and out through your

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mouth.

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I'll start our timer now.

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Just enjoy this mindful minute

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together as

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you're breathing easy, think about

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something you've been working on.

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Maybe around eating well, moving

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more, being intentional about rest

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and consider the rule of

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two.

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What if you gave yourself

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two dedicated times for this

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habit?

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One planned and one flexible.

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What if you had more

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space for balance instead of

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the all or nothing?

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As you breathe, recognize you

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don't have to have all

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the answers.

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Just noticing this thought is

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enough.

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Let it sit.

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And imagine how you might

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feel after you try this.

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The rule of two is

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something that you're trying to

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work on.

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One more deep breath in

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and out.

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And that's it.

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Just a moment to pause

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and reset.

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I hope you gave some

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time to yourself either just

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to let your mind wander

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or maybe consider the rule

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of two in your life.

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And you can come back

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to mindful minutes on your

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own anytime.

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It only takes a minute.

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Thank you for sharing that

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mindful minute with me today.

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All right, let's talk about

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how to actually use the

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rule of two in your

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life.

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Because an idea is just

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that, an idea, until you

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apply it.

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And this one is designed

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to be simple, flexible, and

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something you can stick with

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and try.

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Think of it like training

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wheels on a bike or

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those bumpers, again, remember, in

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the bowling alley.

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The goal isn't to ride

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with them forever, but they

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give you enough structure and

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you can put them into

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place as you acquire new

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habits over time.

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And there's no reason you

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can't do them for as

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long as you wish.

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But they keep you steady

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until the habit becomes second

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nature.

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So here's how to get

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rolling, so to speak, with

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the rule of two.

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Number one, step one, let's

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say, pick one habit and

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apply the rule of two.

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That may seem obvious, but

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pick one.

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If you're trying to limit

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something, like the desserts, like

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sugar, like social media, like

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alcohol, or if you're trying

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to build something, add something

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in, like meal prep or

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reading before bed, I didn't

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mention that yet today, or

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exercise in a fashion and

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a routine that you're looking

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to do.

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Start with just one thing.

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No need to overhaul your

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whole life overnight.

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And then step two is

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set your plan.

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This is where the rule

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of two kicks in.

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For things you're limiting, choose

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your two times this week,

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one planned, one planned but

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flexible.

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So maybe your planned dessert,

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like we talked about before,

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it's Saturday night, or maybe

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it's Sunday dinner with family.

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And then you're flexible for

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the one that can be

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a spontaneous moment when you're

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so moved.

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Or maybe you plan to

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have a drink on Friday

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night at the end of

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a long work week.

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And then one's flexible, in

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case something fun comes up,

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a friend comes in town,

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you're out on a business

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dinner where it's sort of

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expected.

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The key is just not

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two days in a row

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so that you don't fall

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into the daily habit loop

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that can happen.

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And for things that you're

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building, choose your two days

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off so your days on

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are more automatic.

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If you're starting a workout,

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don't try for seven days

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this week every single day.

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That will surely lead to

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some pain and soreness, mental

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stress, and probably burnout.

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Pick your two days rest

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ahead of time.

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If you're meal prepping, set

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two no-cook nights.

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Maybe that requires you planning

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and prepping in advance.

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Maybe it allows for leftovers.

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Maybe you plan for takeout

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or going out.

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But then you know the

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other days are covered.

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The key is the decision

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is already made.

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No more daily mental debates

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on the one thing that

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you're working on.

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Step three is adjusting without

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guilt.

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So life happens.

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This isn't about being perfect.

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And it's always important for

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me to remind people of

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that because we can get

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rigid and fixed even on

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simple strategies.

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So if life plans change,

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if your plans change, swap

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your day.

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Shift things around.

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The structure allows for that.

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If you've had your flexible

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dessert already but another event

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pops up, maybe swap your

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planned one or skip it

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this week.

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No big deal.

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The whole point is to

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try to avoid the guilt

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spiral and give yourself structure

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and freedom.

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You'll feel really empowered as

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you experiment with this, I

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assure you.

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And I encourage you to

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write me and tell me

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about it.

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At the end of the

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day, the rule of two

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isn't about restriction.

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It's about knowing you always

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have another chance coming.

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It's about staying consistent, but

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not feeling deprived.

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Remember two times a week,

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as I've said before, and

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I'll say again, it's 104

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times in a year.

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That's a lot of opportunities

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and you're never more than

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a couple of days away

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from your next one.

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So what is the habit

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you're going to start with?

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Pick one, set your plan,

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and give yourself permission to

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make this easy.

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So as a wrap up

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for today, this is what

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I hope you take away.

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The rule of two is

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simple, but it's powerful.

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It's not about rigid rules

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or forcing yourself into any

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extreme.

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It's about having just enough

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structure to make things easier

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without feeling stuck.

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And whether you're limiting something

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like desserts or social media

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or sugar, or building something

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like meal prep or daily

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movement, the approach gives you

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a system to keep you

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consistent without the guilt, the

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stress, or decision fatigue.

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It at least takes away

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one of our million daily

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decisions.

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And most importantly, it helps

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you stick with your habits

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in a way that actually

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fits within your life.

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So this week, I invite

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you to try it.

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Pick one habit, set your

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two days, see how it

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feels.

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And if it works for

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you, keep it going.

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Adjust as needed, and make

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it your own.

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And if today's episode got

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you thinking, I'd love to

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hear from you.

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You can always connect with

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me at 1KWM@wendybazilian.com .

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