This episode focuses on mastering your mindset to increase your chances of success in job interviews. From mindset tips to practical strategies, Sarah provides the tools you need to ace your next interview and achieve your career aspirations.
Show Notes
[00:00:00] Welcome and Introduction
[00:02:00] The Growing Complexity of Interviews
[00:03:00] Overcoming Negative Mindsets
[00:05:00] Harnessing Positive Experiences
[00:06:00] Reframing Nerves as Excitement
[00:09:00] Gaining Perspective
[00:11:00] Seeing Interviewers as Allies
[00:13:00] Power of Affirmations
[00:15:00] Visualization Techniques
[00:17:00] Final Encouragement and Resources
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Welcome to Unstuck and Unstoppable,
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:leaders who want to create more impact,
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:feel connected to their passion
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:selling out or burning out.
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:I'm Sarah Archer, a leadership coach
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:like you thrive in leadership roles
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:I'm the founder of CareerTree
Coaching and have over 15 years of
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:Let's get started.
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:Welcome to today's episode, which is all
about having more success interviews.
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:And the reason I wanted to talk
about this topic is because as
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:a leader, the interview process
can be very time-consuming.
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:my previous background was in
HR and , , I've run selection
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:processes up to chief exec level.
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:But I think now they seem to be much
more protracted and require a . huge
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:commitment from the candidate in
terms of time and preparation and,
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:content that they've got to prepare.
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:, in fact, I was coaching a client last year
who was going for a senior role and he
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:had eight stages to the selection process.
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:, he did get the job in the end, but, , that
requires a huge amount of commitment.
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:, and you're meeting a whole
variety of different people in
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:those interview stages as well.
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:, so the commitment is large.
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:I wanted to talk a little bit
about, , prepping for success because
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:obviously you do want to, , maximize
your chances of success because you
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:don't want to have to be putting
that energy and commitments into lots
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:of different selection processes.
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:You want to be , , successful in the one
that you want to be, offered the job for.
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:, , but today I wanted to focus on mindset
because you can have the best technique
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:in the world, but if your mindset is not
where it needs to be, that's going to
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:make it harder for you to be successful.
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:I wanted to focus a on mindset today.
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:, to help you think about how
you can prepare now, even if you
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:haven't got an interview looming
to increase your positivity,
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:your mindset around interviews.
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:You could ask yourself the question, how
do you feel about having an interview?
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:Do you love them?
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:Do you hate them?
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:I've run a lot of interview workshops
and, often there might be one person in
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:the room who actually likes interviews,
but the majority of people find them, , a
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:challenging experience, shall we say.
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:, and often when you think about having
an interview, you can feel that same
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:sense of dread that goes alongside
having an exam, or, a driving test,
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:or, , something where you're going to be
examined, and found potentially wanting.
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:Or you might feel like there's going
to be some kind of interrogation.
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:And it just feels like a very
uncomfortable experience.
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:, and I had another client last year
and he was a very senior individual.
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:He'd worked in some incredibly high
pressured situations, but when it came
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:to interviews, he just felt like it
all fell apart or certainly in the
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:last year or so, it just fell apart.
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:And so he wasn't getting the
results that he was hoping for.
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:He'd been for a lot of interviews and
it became a bit of a vicious cycle.
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:in that he believed that he wasn't
able to perform well at interviews.
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:And so therefore that led him to
perform less well at interviews.
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:And so he wasn't offered the job,
which then affected his confidence.
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:And, it just became that
self fulfilling prophecy.
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:We definitely have to believe
that we're going to be successful
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:and have the positive mindset
around going into the interview.
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:Because, we can mask those feelings,
but often there is something called
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:unconscious seepage where, , There are
just ways that , you're not able to
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:generate the same level of enthusiasm or
be as convincing because in the back of
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:your mind, you're dreading the experience.
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:You're not looking forward to it.
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:You're feeling unconfident about it.
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:So it's very important to do this work
as well as, , doing the interview
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:technique stuff around prepping for.
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:the examples that you're going
to share with the interviewer.
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:So I've got some, , some tips to help
you do that, which we'll run through
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What we want to think about, , is, , first of all, remembering the positive
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:experiences that we've had in interview
situation, because often when we
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:think about our interview experiences.
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:, we will focus on the ones that we
think didn't go well, and we'll
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:remember them, , and then that will
colour our feeling about how we're
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:going to perform at the interview.
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:So taking ourselves back to interviews
where we've been successful, where we've
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:performed well, we've been offered the
job, but it doesn't have to be that,
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:it can be just ones where you felt you
performed well but maybe you decided not
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:to take the job, whatever the outcome
is, but Knowing that you actually did
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:well in the interview and remembering
those times and thinking back to how
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:you performed, how you felt, what you
did that made those interviews go well
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:and focusing on them, not on that one
interview that didn't go to plan for
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:whatever reason it might have been.
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:That's the first thing, is to
get back in touch with interviews
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:where you have been successful.
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:Then the second thing is to think
about repositioning and reframing
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:how you feel about interviews.
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:Often when we're thinking about
the interview, so say we've got
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:an interview next week, we'll
get that sensation in our bodies.
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:. I'm rubbing my stomach here.
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:So we'll probably feel that kind
of butterflies in our stomach, that
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:spike of adrenaline, that buzz of, Oh
God, I've got an interview next week.
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:And that sense of dread
that comes with it.
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:And I know when I used to have an
interview coming up, , I'd often
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:have that feeling of, Oh my God,
I've got that interview next week.
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:I really hope there's a train
strike and I can't make it, or I
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:get the flu and I just can't go.
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:I'd want something to intervene
to make the interview go away.
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:And I would not want to think about
it because it would just make me feel
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:really uncomfortable and nervous.
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:And obviously we don't want that.
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:We want to be able to reposition it.
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:So two things to think about here.
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:First of all is that the feelings that
you get, the butterflies in your stomach,
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:that sort of anxiety about the interview.
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:sits right next to feelings
of excitement , in our body.
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:, often it's the same feeling we
get when we're thinking about
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:something that's going to be a bit
exciting and we'll get that buzzer.
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:Oh, I've got that thing coming up next
week and I'm really looking forward to it.
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:what we want to do is move that feeling
of anxiety into feeling excited about it.
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:If you can feel excited about an
interview and we're going to work on that.
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:What we want to be thinking in our
head is actually not, I'm dreading
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:that interview and I wish something
would happen to make me be able
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:to not go, but actually be telling
ourselves, actually, I'm really looking
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:forward to this interview next week.
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:It's the chance for me to meet some
new people, to be curious about
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:the job, to find out if it's the
And to share the experience I've
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:had in this area of, , expertise
or whatever words, work for you.
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:But just to be telling yourself, actually,
it's a good opportunity to, , test my
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:interview skills, to meet new people,
to find out more about the organisation.
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:And just by positioning it into
a more positive, experience
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:will help us with that.
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:feeling of dread because we're not going
to be dreading it, we're going to be
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:looking forward to it because it's going
to give us an opportunity to be curious.
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:So that's the second thing to do is to
reposition it and reframe it as something
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:that's going to be a good experience.
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:Now we can acknowledge that we're going
to feel nervous because you're still
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:going to feel nervous even if you're
repositioning it because you're going
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:to be going into performance mode.
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:So you can acknowledge that
when you're reframing it.
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:You can say, look, I know I'm going to
feel nervous, but I'm going to use those
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:nerves positively to help me perform well.
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:Again, it's acknowledging it
and using it in a positive way.
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:Then the third thing you can do is get
some perspective about the interview,
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:because sometimes we can focus on
it so much we think, if I don't get
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:this job, that's it, my career is
ruined, or I'm never going to get this
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:opportunity again, or, , we put so
much pressure on this one interview
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:to deliver that actually increases
the pressure on ourselves to perform.
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:If we can position it, okay, this
interview isn't the be all and
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:end all, there will be other jobs.
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:is my chance to find out if it's
the right job for me and it might
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:not be the right job for me.
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:And so getting that perspective
and what can be helpful is to look
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:back on interviews where perhaps you
weren't successful and think about
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:actually was it the right time for me.
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:I know when I was an HR manager, I
was going for an HR director role.
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:I'd got an interview to the first
stage and I remember thinking,
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:yeah, I'm ready for this job.
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:, I'm, can do it.
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:I can, I'll show them I can do it.
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:And got into the interview and The
questions they were asking me really
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:threw me and I came out of it thinking,
Oh gosh, that didn't really go very well.
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:And I didn't get invited
back to second interview.
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:But when I look back on it now, I can
see that actually I wasn't ready for
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:that role and that if they'd offered
me the job, if I'd been successful, I
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:would have been out of my depth and I
would have really struggled in that role.
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:And actually, I probably needed
to have another six to 12 months
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:of experience under my belt before
I went for an HR director role.
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:So looking back it was actually a
useful thing that I didn't get the job.
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:I think being able to get that
perspective of there will be other jobs,
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:there'll be other organizations I can
apply to, can really help you take the
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:pressure off and help you feel more
positive about the interview as well.
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:And then in that perspective piece
is also thinking about seeing
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:the interviewers as colleagues.
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:So not interrogators, but actually as your
future colleagues and that you're going
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:in to have a professional conversation
with those people about the job.
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:And it's a two way conversation
because you're also assessing them.
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:Do you want to work with them?
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:Is it the right job for you?
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:Is it the right organization for you?
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:So thinking about them in
terms of colleagues can help
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:take the pressure off as well.
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:And you can research them.
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:You can look on LinkedIn to
find out a bit more about them.
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:You can , See the synergy in terms of
your career and their career, and that
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:can help you relax into the interview
and if you're feeling more relaxed in
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:the interview, you're going to perform
much better and more confidently.
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:And while we're thinking about the
interviewers, , because often we can
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:think about the interview, they're
going to be trying to find fault.
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:They're going to be trying to
find a reason not to appoint me.
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:And actually the converse is true.
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:The interviewers want you to do
well, because they want at the
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:end of the day to be able to offer
the job to the best candidate.
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:And they're giving up a whole day of
their time to interview six people.
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:, so they , really want to
appoint at the end of the day.
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:They don't want to have to do
another round of , interviewing
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:because they didn't appoint.
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:They want you to do well.
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:They're not trying to catch
you out or to find your flaws.
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:They want to have a
good evaluation of you.
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:And if you think they're looking
for kind of three things, they're
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:looking for, can you do the job?
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:So do you have the skills and
capability and experience?
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:Then they're going to be
looking at, will you do the job?
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:Do you have the right level of motivation
and the enthusiasm for the role?
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:And the more positive you're feeling
about, the interview, the more
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:genuinely you'll be able to convey your
enthusiasm and interest in the job.
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:Again, the kind of mindset
work is really important there.
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:And then they're looking
at, will you fit in?
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:Do you have similar values?
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:Are you going to be a
good fit in the team?
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:And also, can I work with you?
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:The more relaxed and confident
you can feel in the interview, the
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:more you're going to give off the
vibe that's going to be around.
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:Yes, this person is going to be a good
person to work with and is going to
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:make a good contribution to the team.
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:, my next tip is around, , affirmations
because these can be really,
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:helpful when you're trying to
create a more positive mindset.
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:So these are about changing our
thought patterns in the brain.
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:So our thought pattern in the brain around
the interview might be, , I'm dreading it.
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:I don't know if I'm going to
be successful or whatever you
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:might be saying to yourself.
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:And we want to change it around.
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:We want to have an affirmation.
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:So that's one or two sentences, statements
that might be something around, , I'm
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:really qualified for this job.
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:I've got X skills and etc.
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:X experience that's going to be
really useful for them in this role.
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:They will be lucky to appoint me.
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:So something that's really positive.
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:And, also, , saying something
about, , your level of confidence in a
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:job, , they'll be lucky to, to have me.
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:Repeating those affirmations can make
a real difference because the brain
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:likes repetition, and the more you
can repeat that statement, the more
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:the brain , will value tag it, will
understand that it's important to you,
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:will, go to that as a default, rather
than going to that negative statement
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:you have about, , the interview.
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:You might be a little bit sceptical
about affirmations, , but they do work.
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:, I had a client, she was going for a
senior job in a big tech firm, and was
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:feeling a lack of career confidence
because she had a bit of a . bruising
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:experience in her current job, which
is partly why she wanted to leave.
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:And so we were looking at interview
technique for the interview that she'd
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:got coming up, , but also doing some
mindset work around her career confidence.
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:And I gave her the affirmation idea.
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:She was really skeptical.
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:She was a bit like,
Oh, it feels a bit woo.
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:I'm not sure it's going to work
for me, but I'll give it a go.
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:She texted me to say, a few days
later, to say she was walking around
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:the house repeating it while she
was making the kids dinner, she was
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:repeating it, she was taking the dog
for a walk, she was repeating it.
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:And she was beginning to feel that
it actually was beginning to make a
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:difference to her, to how she felt about
going into that interview situation.
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:And she did get the job.
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:Now, obviously we can't attribute
it just to the affirmations, but
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:it definitely helped her to feel
more positive and more confident
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:going into that interview situation.
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:It could be something you
could experiment with.
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:And then , my last tip for you is around
visualization, because the power of
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:visualization is, super important and it's
got evidence to show that it does work.
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:Visualizing the interview going well,
not just once, but on a number of
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:occasions, can be really powerful in
ensuring that actually it goes more well.
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:Like that on the day.
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:As I said, you can find out on
LinkedIn who your interviewers
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:are and , what they look like.
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:So you can imagine yourself walking into
the interview room confidently if it's a
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:face to face interview, or logging on into
the Zoom or Teams interview, confidently,
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:smiling, greeting those interviewers.
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:Answering the first question they
ask you positively and confidently.
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:You can visualize more interview
questions going well, but certainly that
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:initial, , moment in the interview or
moments in the interview that first
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:few minutes in the interview are super
important in establishing rapport
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:Impact and setting you up for how the
rest of the interview is going to go.
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:So spending time visualizing that
initial First say five to ten minutes
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:in the interview can be really helpful.
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:Now visualization has been evidence based,
so they have done research around it.
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:There was particular research
that was around sports and
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:they had three control groups.
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:It was around basketball.
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:So they had a control group who
went and practiced shooting the ball
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:into the hoop over a time period.
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:They had a control group who did nothing,
no practice or any kind of visualization.
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:And they had a control group who,
just purely visualized themselves
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:successfully shooting the ball
into the hoop but did no practice.
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:And then they tested them.
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:The control group who just visualized
shooting the ball into the hoop
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:did as well as those that practiced
shooting the ball into the hoop.
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:And obviously the ones who did
nothing didn't do that well.
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:So the power of
visualization is incredible.
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:That could be something else that you
could experiment with is just using
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:visualization to help you feel more
confident and have a more positive mindset
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:about going into that interview scenario.
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:I hope that's given you some food for
thought about how you can increase your
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:positive mindset because you might already
have a positive mindset around interviews,
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:but you might want to increase it further.
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:Or if you feel You'd read interviews,
how you can actually turn that
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:around, , and feel more positive about
going into that interview situation.
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