Timecode:

00:00 - Intro

01:00 - Calimar White on growing up in Florida dealing going to Jail young.

05:05 - Calimar White on when he realized he could do stand up.

07:15 - Calimar White on doing music trying to get signed to T.I

09:16 - Breaking up with his girl for being too supportive

13:09 - Calimar White on Standup Comedians vs Social Media Comedians

15:10 - Calimar names his funniest skit

17:00 - Calimar on how he created OCDA

20:00 - Feds ran down on him for OCDA company

27:00 - T.I. calling him from the Feds and giving him a role in "Da Apartments"

30:00 - Calimar White exposes the real issue with Comedians beefing.

33:00 - Calimar on T.I really working in the trenches of Comedy.

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Real life today.

Real life.

Real life street stars Know what time it is?

Real life street stars we here with Kalamar White.

First day out.

First day again.

Again?

Not again.

This is the first day out.

The first time.

Dang, bro.

Man, we actually had an interview that got vaulted.

Cause somebody lost the footage.

Footages.

And then your ass got locked up.

Nigga, what happened, bro, we gotta start from the beginning.

That's right.

The first thing to be gone.

Yeah, okay.

Let's start from the beginning.

Let's start from the top, bro.

Okay.

That bit gone for real?

Nah, that be's gone.

That bitch gone, bro.

I don't know.

Technical difficulties, but it don't matter.

Cause you here now and you will.

And you still repping ocda.

Oh, yeah, this might.

This ain't going.

This is a real company and I deal with real complaints.

Like, this ain't no act.

This is my company.

You know, the company took a hit, but we still going.

Okay.

And that's what happened to all great companies.

You know?

No great company don't have no struggles and no hardships.

They say you're not a boss until you take a loss.

Right.

So let's talk about it, man.

Callie, my wife, you back on the couch for the first time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's go through the origin story real briefly.

Okay.

Where you from?

I'm from St.

Petersburg, Florida.

Oh, shit.

You from Florida.

Yeah, yeah.

We got Will Packer, Angela Bassett, Rod Wade, then me and hurricanes.

Nigga.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you have to deal with that growing up?

Yeah, my folks had to deal with that.

See, growing up, it was always like a store going around.

Like the Indians put a spell on our land to where like hurricanes would go around.

And ever since I was a kid, hurricane used to always go around the hill, be coming straight at us.

Then they'll go around.

So this time, my folks, they ain't take it serious.

Cause like, Milton, but Milton wasn't playing with their ass.

So everybody was just.

Did the normal.

Just like, got sandbags and boarded their shit up.

But, oh, they took it real ill this time.

Yeah, because they thought like, oh, yeah, it's gonna go around.

But this time, I don't know what happened, man.

It's crazy.

Cause half the people I work with, they work from Florida.

So I actually got to see it real time with people like having to, like, figure out.

And I was like, that seems too stressful.

I wouldn't even want.

Why would you want to live somewhere where that could happen?

Yeah.

Nah.

Florida.

Beautiful.

I know.

For sure.

Especially St.

Pete.

We got beaches and everything.

That's crazy.

So growing up in Florida, man, what's some of the.

What was life like in Florida?

Well, I grew up a single child, so I ain't really had like no brothers and sisters and like that.

Yeah, I used to always play with my cousins and like, we stayed in the hood and all that.

So then we moved to Jacksonville, Florida, sixth grade to 10th grade.

That's where like I lost my virginity and like started smoking everything.

All that happened in Jacksonville.

And then I moved back to St.

Pete cause I was too much for my mama and shit.

So she was like, you need a two parent household type shit.

So I moved back to St.

Pete with my godparents my junior year.

And then that's when shit like really got off the chain like that.

When like jail and shit started coming in and then.

But I finished school though, so do.

You think it was like a product, you was a product of your environment or you just a badass kid?

The latter.

And being a follower, you feel me?

Like, that's all nigga was doing, just being a follower.

Like, I ain't need how to do that shit, really.

So for those who don't know, what was it that you got into that led you down the path to go to jail?

Just doing mischievous shit.

I remember one Halloween, goddamn it.

You know how like you throw eggs at cars and shit?

Yeah, it was like the old school Haitian.

Yeah, yeah, we were doing that.

I think I was in like, I had to be like seventh to eighth grade.

We throwing heads at cars.

I'm with the older homies and like that.

They got the girls and they in high school.

So here I am trying to fit in, being a follower.

So I'm like, man, let's take it up and not.

Let's just start throwing rocks and at these.

So goddamn.

So look, I find a bigger rock.

Cause the cars like, they coming home.

So like I find the biggest rock car coming, I throw that bit.

All you hear, boom.

Then.

So I'm thinking everybody finna run.

Cause that what we were doing with the Ed.

That why it was fun.

Cause we throw the ED and then we run.

But nigga, I threw that rock.

Everybody stayed and all them niggas told on my ass.

Oh, so you okay, how old was.

They were like, nigga, you ain't finna get us in trouble, nigga, you did that shit.

Wait, wait, how old was you?

They didn't keep signing it off.

I was trying to.

Look, look, look, I'm trying to I'm trying to.

I'm trying to impress these niggas in front of the hoes and all that shit.

Them nigga told on my ass like, nah, N.

You finna stay here until these folk pull up and they taking you wherever they finna take you?

Yeah.

So you learned accountability.

So you had to be like 13 or 14.

Gotcha.

These nigga like 16, 17, 18 in high school and shit, right?

Oh, well, see, you can look at it this way too.

They knew that your severity of punishment wasn't gonna be as bad as theirs, so you supposed to take more for the team.

I think them nigga like, you fucking up the vibe.

You need to.

We was on edge.

We was on edge.

We about to get a real ticket on your.

Yeah, we need to get one.

Damn.

Okay, so you said you went to.

You went to jail, you went to juvenile.

Like, what was.

Yeah, I went to juvenile.

Got you.

What did you learn while you was in juvenile?

Shit, it came out even worse.

I was getting in trouble after that.

After that, nigga ain't learned a damn thing.

But that your mama allowed the pick you up, right?

That's all I knew.

Yeah.

So you.

So you stuck in through high school.

At what point did you realize, man, I'm funny?

I'm pretty funny.

I always been funny.

I remember like going to teen camping or summer camping shit with my cousin Jerrell.

Like, he used to always come get me to come crack on girls and shit, like.

And I come crack on and make him cry and do all type of shit.

You feel me?

I just say the worst.

Well, not.

But it was funny though, but just like about them.

Cause like, it be like a lot of fine girl, cute girl.

You think they be thinking like, you can't find nothing bad about them.

I talk about a bitch, knee, elbow.

I find something, you feel me?

And then I used the class clown.

But not on purpose though.

It was just like.

I don't know, I just like, grew up.

Like I said, I grew up.

My only child.

I ain't had no sisters and brothers, so I always found some form of entertainment no matter where I was at now where to entertain myself right now.

You came to Dallas to do music?

Hell, yeah.

How you know that, nigga?

We did the interview.

He said, how you know that?

Well, you know, you know, you know, I be thinking that so far behind me, but it ain't been nothing but.

A couple of years.

So, you know, you was on the rapping at first.

What made you get on that?

Doing like time and shit and seeing that shit on tv.

Like, I always thought I can do that shit.

And I was actually good, too.

I got out doing, I was taking it serious.

And I always wanted to sign that nigga Tip.

You feel that was like my end goal in rap.

You feel me?

To sign the tip?

And like I said, I was taking.

I had a Vevo channel, nigga.

I was.

Had quality music.

I was putting my shit up, like, on all DSPs and all that shit.

I gave that nigga a CD.

Long story short, I gave him a CD of mine.

It was called Best thing since Tip.

And I was like, man, that nigga gonna listen to this shit in like 60 days.

That nigga gonna sign me.

I'm talking about, like nine months went by, I ain't getting no call.

And that shit just made me depressed.

You feel me?

And then, like, the girl I was with at the time, I just looked at her and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna start talking about your ass.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm like, bitch, you.

I got something for you, bitch.

Like, you the reason I ain't prospering.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, and then I started writing jokes about what we were going through.

And then that when I started coming.

What's the pettiest reason you ever broke up with a girl?

Like the girl I'm talking about, she was too supportive.

You feel me?

Like, like, too supportive.

And what I mean by that, like, you know, like, the light bill would be due, but she'll give me the money.

Like, she'll like, buy me studio equipment and shit like that.

She was falling off trying to help you out.

Yeah.

So now we in the dark, listening to my music.

Nigga, you supposed to leave, nigga.

And I ain't even talking about shit on the track.

I'm just rapping.

Like.

Yeah.

So that was like.

That was.

I guess you could call that petty.

Bitch, I don't want to see you making irrational decisions with the money.

So did you.

We still got a livelihood.

We still gotta live.

So were you not generating any income?

I mean, I was full time rapping.

Did you look down on her for, like, one.

See one thing about rap, that shit hard because nigga, coming up as a rapper and you want to perform like your music and shit, motherfuckers be knowing that.

So they always trying to charge.

Oh, yeah, it 50 to perform, you got, we got the hundred dollar package, all this type of shit.

But far as comedy, like, if you funny, like, niggas will pay your way on an open mic.

Like 40, $50, nigga there for being funny.

So, like, people in comedy, they look for you to perform and pay you what's.

What's the biggest scam in music as an artist, when you was coming up.

The biggest scam in music?

Yeah.

The jury, like having to look like I'm talking about, boy, that shit used to tear my neck up trying to like, keep up with the image.

Nah, for real, for real.

It got to the point, like, nigga, I started blaming the tags on my shirt.

I'm like, I ain't wearing no more shirts with tags.

Them shit, like tearing my neck up.

Like, that's why I started wearing college shirts.

But.

But, you know, so crazy, right?

We starting to hear about, like, artists getting robbed and they finding out they jewelry fake.

And I remember I seen an artist say, man, damn, I worked so hard to get this real.

Jury thinking that that's what it is and finding out that all these niggas shit is fake.

You know what I'm saying?

So when you look at the game, right?

And you like, damn, you got to do what you got to do to be.

Because you got to look apart.

You got to look the part as an artist.

Hell yeah.

Do you feel like that's fucking the game up a little bit?

Us going out of our way trying to get 40, 50, $60,000 just to get a chain.

And then you get the chain and you realize that shit didn't do nothing for you.

I mean, it's fucking up the game.

Far as, like social media.

Like, if you trying to impress motherfuckers on social media, which people feel like that's all it is.

You gotta impress motherfuckers on social media.

But you got like the money that don't wear no chain, that harder than Daniel, all these, right?

But he's also the son of a legend, huh?

He's also the son of a legend.

And on tv, but he don't rap nothing like that.

Yeah, but I'm saying he's on tv, so they kind of give him a little bit of a.

That look look, that TV King walked.

If we took King, the DG's, them hoes on them.

I'm gonna tell you all, none of this, none of this shit matter.

The tv, the followers, none of that shit matter.

So what does matter?

You getting out here in the real world and working your ass off and grinding and people seeing you and you touching real people, right?

Cause niggas can buy followers, niggas can buy views, nigga can buy comments, nigga can buy, like, nigga can put that shit together and make it look like you doing something.

And then when your ass get booked, the comedy club owner wondering why ain't nobody showed up.

Straight up.

Straight up.

So are you a standup comedian, an Instagram, a social media comedian?

What do you classify yourself as?

Oh, I'm a stand up comedian.

What do you think is the difference?

Because I know there's, you know, you have people that feel like there's, you know, social media content creators that do comedy, right?

And then they have the people that actually do stand up.

And you sometimes see the OGs look down upon the social media.

See, everybody can't do both though.

That's why I'm a threat to all these niggas.

Got you.

You feel me?

See, with the standup, I started off doing standup.

Remember I told you I looked at the girl and said, bitch, I'm finna start talking about your ass.

Yeah, that was the beginning of the standup.

Yeah.

Oh, so she in a way motivated you.

Exactly.

I wrote some jokes about what me and her was going through.

I went to a comedy club, that was my first time ever going to a comedy show to check out an open mic to see how it go, right?

Once I seen nigga was up there like getting no laughs, I was like, oh yeah, I know I can do this shit.

I always been a funny, I got a sense of humor type shit.

So I wrote the joke.

But yeah, the stand up.

I started doing stand up because that's what I wanted to do.

But when I got into the Internet, I got into the Internet because I realized if you trying to make it and stand up, be a big time star or whatnot.

Like the shit you see the Mike F, the Dave Chappelle, you trying to be that type shit in this era, you gotta get on the Internet.

So I taught myself how to do skits and all that shit.

You feel me?

Cause I was an Android.

I ain't started doing skits till I got an iPhone and I seen nigga had the imovie on that shit.

Cause I used to watch video and used to hear the voiceover video.

I always wonder like how n do that shit, like add their voice behind a video.

And then when I got the app on imovie, I seen the voice, I was like, oh, it's a rap then.

And I remember my first Video.

I was acting like I was God or some shit.

Like saying my grace.

I was trying to say my prayer and like God interrupted me on some shit.

What's your funniest skit?

My funniest skit?

Yeah, man, I got some classics.

Give us some for those.

This is for people who may not be.

I got one that one video when I.

That went viral on TikTok, the Mr.

Taylor video.

We say, keep showing concern, you gonna get fucked.

Yeah, yeah, that went viral.

That's you, nigga.

Huh?

That's you.

Yeah, that was me.

Cause they use your voice.

Yeah, they use.

A lot of people use the voice and not the video.

Yeah, exactly.

So, like, then I got another one when George Floyd got unalive type.

Damn.

When George Floyd got unalive, everybody was protesting.

And I went out to a protest with a sign, it said, y'all still ugly.

That.

That went viral.

Wait, that's a skit or.

That was just real.

You just documented some.

That was some real.

You know what I'm saying?

See, I always had him.

I always.

I told myself I'm gonna do skits.

I always had that in me.

Like, I need to get out and do like real stunts type shit.

Then I got one when where JFK got killed at, right?

I'm down there cussing out white people.

You know how they be having all the tours and shit.

I'm cussing their ass.

I'm calling them fuck niggas.

All type of shit.

Pussy ass niggas.

That went viral.

Not my favorite then.

I never do shit at work.

Yeah, I don't never do shit at work.

Never shit at work.

Yeah, that's the one.

You just don't give a fuck, do you?

I just feel like, man, with the content, you just gotta be like a little.

A little edgy and risky.

Cause everybody doing skits, it like, what is you doing?

You can just draw down on niggas that do skits, though.

What do you feel about that?

See, this is a real company, so they can't draw down on me.

They going, so, yeah, let's get into it.

Going to jail.

You draw down on me.

Let's get into your company.

Ocda.

What is how.

What is that?

What is your company doing?

How was it formed?

OCDA is an acronym for Occupational Cares, Diversity Affairs.

And what we do is people go to my website, they file a complaint about their boss or their supervisor, anything like that.

We show it to the job and we cuss their ass out.

Yeah, everything you want to say to your boss Everything you want to say to your boss that you can't say, y'all contact us, go to our website, OCDAofficial.com and we'll show up and say all the things you want us to say verbatim.

Is it anonymous?

Like, do they know who it's from?

Oh, yeah, the complaints are totally anonymous, but I say everything verbatim so you can curse on your complaints.

I'm a curse anyway.

How much do you charge for this service?

Right.

Oh, the file of complaint is 599.

That's it.

But I don't charge no service.

I try to look out for people because I just want to be a voice for the people.

And one thing about this, okay, you know how you ask me about the stand up in an Internet comedian?

See, with the Internet, when you doing skits, you can press.

If you don't like it, you can press stop and then record it over until you get it right type.

But on stand up, you in front of one audience, and you got to make them laugh right then and there, right?

So with.

With my videos, it's an element of stand up in my videos even.

Because when I go any.

When I.

When I go any places and then I leave, I can't go back in there and be like, you know what?

I ain't like how I cuss y'all.

Let me do that over.

Let's do it over.

You feel me?

So, nigga, I gotta be funny, like, right there and right then on the spot.

And that's what's unique about my shit.

Now, when you go into these offices, people are pretty much always very cordial to you.

Even when you cussing them out, they trying to figure out what's going on.

And, like, how do you not.

How do you stay in your professionalism during it, but.

And not be like.

Pretty much be like, this shit funny?

Like, these motherfuckers really taking this shit serious.

Cause I take it serious.

I take my job serious.

Like, I ain't going in there playing half the time.

I don't be knowing what I be saying until I go back and edit the video.

Then I get my little laugh.

I'm like, damn, I said that.

So that's why you don't see me laughing and smirking in there.

Because in my mind, like, I'm at work.

Yeah, I'm really taking care of complaint, and I'm really at doing my job.

So I ain't got time to be in here laughing with these people.

Has anybody ever tried to get aggressive.

With you for oh, yeah, a white man.

And then it's what's so crazy.

As soon as that video dropped, that's when the feds show up at my house.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cause you went to the feds for this?

Yeah.

So, nigga, the feds showed up.

Like I say, after that video.

I don't know if it has something to do with that, but it was just like, damn.

Like, they showed up 30D.

Like I was a fucking kingpin or some shit.

Like I was fucking Chapo or Diddy, nigga.

Had rifles and shit drawn.

Nah, for real.

So when they pulled me out and they took my phone and shit.

Cause that's what they say.

They were coming to confiscate all my electronic devices and whoop to whoop and all that shit.

So when they got me to the truck and they seen I was cool, that's when all the snipers and all them left and all that.

But when they pulled me out, it was.

Had their guns drawn.

And, like, I'm like, bro, I had to tell them, like, y'all do know I'm a comedian.

So they didn't do no kind of research before they came to your house?

Of course they did research.

They was there for.

Because of the ocean.

So it was the Department of Labor.

And I ain't know that.

I was like, I thought the feds.

I thought the feds were like, FBI type shit.

Yeah.

But he was like, nah, it's like different sectors of the federal.

So.

So this was the Department of Labor.

So did you go to, like, a government building or something?

I went to county Jail, and they held me in that business for a month till I got a bond.

They gave me a bond.

I mean, no.

What.

The building that you went into, the.

Were you custom?

Like, it was in a government building?

Like, why do you think the feds got involved?

Because I was saying ocean.

But on my name tag, and they took my name tag, it said osha.

And I didn't know that was like, a federal.

Federal company.

Oh, yeah, osha.

It was like a person ain't a federal officer.

And I wanna tell them right now, I don't want nothing to do with them.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Y'all got me.

And no wonder why people was taking me so serious, because they fucking serious, you know?

Cause when I watched one of your videos, you said you was with osha, and I was like.

But I be saying ocean.

But when they look at the tag, they be like, oh, osha.

Yeah.

But, yeah, OSHA ain't no bullshit.

I ain't know that, but I did not know that.

Yeah, OSHA was.

That's why, like, from now on, the videos.

Now, I'm not saying OSHA is Occupational cares Diversity affairs, but see.

Cause I.

I wondered.

Nothing affiliated with osha.

We are not affiliated with osha.

Cause I feel like that was kind of the reason, like, motherfuckers taking you serious.

Cause you say you osha, Nick.

Motherfuckers like, oh, they gonna take me serious.

When I hit them with the occupational care Diversity affairs, they still gonna take me serious.

So while you were in jail, did you was like, yeah, I need to.

Yeah, I need something, man.

When I was in jail, man, it was like, officers in there that knew me, they wanted to take pictures and shit.

They were like, then I was going to court.

So we go to court with the females.

One female, she came out there, she was like, your name Kalamar White.

I just put my head down.

I'm like, boy, this is not the place to begin.

Recognize Then officers, like I said, officers knew me.

They wanted to take a picture, but they knew that.

They were like, I can't right now, but I sure wish I could take a picture.

I'm like, nah, I'm looking, bitch.

I'm looking rough.

And this is not rattler.

How long would you have it been in there before you start trying to hit a guard?

How long would you have it been in there before you start trying to hit a guard?

Niggas trying to hit a guard.

They third night.

Nigga just horny for no reason.

Just want to be in jail.

Want to just like.

And n being jail, lying about everything.

Like what?

Give me a story, like, about what they had.

They do music and niggas, like, you know they got the tablets now.

That what niggas fighting over now.

Niggas fighting over tablets in jail.

Like, straight iPads and shit.

Hell yeah.

N.

Like, why you always ain't like.

Full access to YouTube and everything?

Nah, it's shit you gotta buy and shit.

Oh, gotcha, niggas.

That's what jail stand for.

Like, how I say nigga be lying?

Yeah, jail stand for just another inmate line.

That what jail stand for.

Did you coin this phrase or is this an exclusive?

I ain't never heard this one.

Yeah, just another inmate line.

That what jail stand for?

N a be lying about everything.

So was you in jail cracking jokes?

I was writing jokes.

Okay.

And one thing about, like, I say, they got the tablets now.

Like, I ain't gonna lie.

Like, the commissary they don't upgraded the commissary.

Like, back when I was going to jail.

Like, they just had, like.

They ain't really had that much, but I was just browsing through that shit.

I was like, far as, like, religion shit go, back in the day, they used to have, like, the Bible and, like, a little Quran or some shit like that.

But now, nigga, they got the Bible, they got the rug, they got the kufis, they got the Jewish beads.

Like, boy, I ordered all that shit.

Hell, I'm talking about.

Cause I want all that spiritual energy around me.

You had a Bible and a Quran.

Well, I was on my bed, Bible in my hand, Kufa on my head, Jewish beads around my neck.

I'm calling on all the gods for redemption, nigga.

Like, I was trying to.

I was trying to what?

I was trying to pray and study my way up out of there.

Nah, for real.

But that shit was real.

Cause like I said, I've been in jail, but this time was the time I felt it the worst.

Cause I'm like, damn, I got a lot to lose now.

Right, right, right.

You hear me?

Was you had any.

Was any of the inmates in there with you trying to get you to be funny?

Hell, no.

But some of them knew me and shit.

They was like, surprising shit.

Hell yeah, nigga.

Like, they put you in gym pop.

And then when I.

Yeah, hell yeah.

I'm going wherever someone go.

I'm just a regular person.

Yeah, yeah.

But when I left, I noticed one thing, like.

Cause my dorm was flipping a lot, meaning that nigga was going home.

You feel me?

So when n go home, nigga be wanting everything you got.

Like, just leave me everything you got.

Like, when I live like, n wanted my socks, thermals, drawers, food, all type of shit.

I'm like, hell, nah, boy.

Like, I'm gonna leave this shit at the door.

And whoever want it, y'all can scatter over here and get it.

So when you got out, what was your first play in action?

Like, what was on your mind when you first got out?

Man, when I got out, boy, it was a goddamn blessing.

Cause when I got out, I went from my cell, nigga, to the motherfucking movie set.

Tip put me in a movie in the apartment.

And when I was in jail, I actually talked to that nigga when I was in, too.

You feel me?

Like, well, I'm talking about exactly.

Like, now I'm doing, like, comedy.

Been giving me way more blessings than I would thought I ever get in the rap game.

You feel me?

But, like, I said, when I was in jail, they offered to get me out and till, you know, he offered to get me out and.

But it wasn't that much, so my folks took care of it.

But he was like, when you get out, pull up on the set and you feel me?

So I pulled up on the set.

I pulled up on the set in my uniform, so he was in the director chair, you feel me?

Like when I pulled up on the set, I walked up to him, you know, greeted him and shit like that, you know.

But then, you know, he had to get back to directing and shit like that.

So about like 30 minutes later, I just hear him say, yeah, Calamar White.

No, Calamar White.

He right there, right there, you feel me?

He was talking to some lady and then she just came over to me.

She was like, okay, let's get you to the dressing room, let's get you in wardrobe.

I'm like, what going on?

You feel me?

And then he was like, get him some sides too, like the script and shit.

Get him the script.

And then they told me what was going on.

He was like, yeah.

He said, you gonna play this role?

And whoop da woo.

I was like, oh, yeah, but I'm in this thing.

How does it feel to be acting?

Do you feel like you needed any formal training or was it just easy to you?

I mean, you know, you want to polish it up, you want to, you know, if you gonna act, you want to perfect the craft.

But it came normal to me because when you doing skits and all that shit, that's acting.

When you on stage performing comedy, that's acting.

You gotta act out the routine and shit like that.

So that why it came normal.

But it was just like, it was a nervousness to be like on a professional set.

Like, man, this shit for real.

So now that you've done that, do you feel like movies are like, that's what you're trying to jump into that lane?

Is that your next lane or what you thinking?

Hell yeah, I want to do all that shit.

Like you gotta do the movies.

You gotta do the, the movies.

Just do tv.

Just keep your face out there because that's what's gonna keep the, the ticket selling for the stand up comedy shows.

Yeah, you feel me?

Like my eps, he like, he being in a lot of movies, right.

So people always want to see him type.

Yeah, because you had new material, all that.

So I just want to stay working like that and stay on stage.

That's why I do all this Internet shit to prepare my Standup career.

Cause people gotta see me.

That's a fact.

Cause you know, boy, like, before I started doing comedy, I said to myself, I thought I was.

I thought it was a genius idea.

I'm like, yeah, nigga, I'm finna do comedy.

Like, ain't nobody doing that.

But it's like when you get in that shit, you see like, damn, everybody doing this shit.

That's crazy.

So it's like you gotta really be.

Get your face out there.

Do you feel like you gotta when to be a good comedian?

You gotta be a good hater.

What you mean by that?

Like, you know, you see people in the crowd like, nigga, bitch ass.

Or, you know, you got the comedians that work at crowds so hard, they have to find something that's fucked up about them and talk about it or kind of just hate on them a little bit.

Make it and make it entertaining.

Hell no.

Like, them niggas whack.

Like, you gotta be a hater on stage.

Your ass a hater off stage.

Okay.

You feel me?

Like, I ain't.

When I'm on stage and I'm doing some crowd work, I ain't doing no hating.

Like, all my shit gonna be funny.

That's what's up.

That's what's up, man.

Speaking of Hayden, I don't know if you've seen a Steve Harvey interview, right, where he kind of spoke back at Cat Williams and he said, man, as comedians, bro, that ain't our lane to be tearing another comedian down.

You know what I'm saying?

He was basically saying, like, that ain't what comedians do.

Like, we talk.

You know what I'm saying?

Do you feel like the whole comedians beefing through interviews has gotten too far, or do you just think it is what it is?

I mean, like, niggas say that shit on camera.

But, nigga, when you with your partner, nigga, you talking about a n a just like everybody else.

I'm talking about you talking about nigga bad too.

You cursing, you doing all type of shit.

So tell me some of the things that need to come.

Because again, until Cat Williams had an interview, n.

S didn't know it was that fucked up.

In the comedy world, we always thought y'all niggas got along.

Cause you seeing n that don't fuck with each other on tour with each other.

Now that's one thing I can respect that comedians.

Cause they wanna get the money.

But nigga, we seen TLC couldn't even get the money.

Like, they.

Nah, we don't fuck with Each other, like, and they stop.

They bad.

You see people in other genres of things stop.

They bag.

Because they just won't do a show with the same people.

They don't fuck with, but comedians do.

So take us behind the curtain a little bit on the comedy world.

And what is there turmoil in that motherfucker?

Hell, yeah.

Nigga be hating, like, oh, man, it's a lot of niggas I don't open up for.

For a lot of.

I don't perform with.

And, like, that be embracing you.

Like, when you.

When you first come and ain't never seen feel, like, oh, yeah, just a little.

Just doing the guest spot.

Yeah, I ain't gonna see that.

Like, I know I'm better than that.

But once you start hearing this name, like, it'd be like.

It'd be like one of them moments.

Like, you never know.

Like, you never know who gonna be next type, you feel me?

So it was like, one of them moments.

I ain't, like, saying I'm naked, but it was like, I know them.

Like, see me now, like, the.

I be performing with the big names, and now my name, like, coming up there now.

You feel me?

Like, now they like, oh, like.

And ain't expect me to be this good.

So now be shying away from me and, like, be bringing my name up in the room.

I ain't gonna say no name, but nigga brought my name up in the room several times.

Nigga showed me the text where he said my name.

Like, man, I been trying to get you on this shit for the longest.

Like, niggas won't even fuck with me.

And it's a big.

And it's like, big company.

Like, everybody with them, and they in the comment, they comedians, too.

Damn.

And I.

And I.

And I'm like.

And then, like, when I see them in person, they act like everything.

It be kind of like fake love type shit.

One nigga, one.

One nigga don't even say nothing to me.

Then the other one would be like, you feel me?

That's crazy.

So that's why I know.

Like, I know I'm a threat, but I just stay humble and keep working.

You feel me?

Cause I know I got my own shit going.

Is Tip funny to you?

Who.

Is Clifford Harris?

TI oh, Tip.

Tip funny to you?

Yeah, he got some jokes.

Yeah, he like, I seen.

Look, I see him.

Say he got some jokes.

Nah, that's like, niggas won't even say that about comedians who ain't funny.

Like, when niggas say, you got Some jokes.

Like, shit, you got some motherfucking jokes.

And plus I see him working out in the rooms, the trenches.

Like, he ain't going to like rooms where people coming to see him.

And it sold out like his spot like Trout City Cafe.

Nigga be at the bar, watching TV n being a bit.

Trying to holla at hoes, all type shit.

Nigga low key mad you on stage performing type shit like them type of vibes.

And he be doing good shit.

Man.

Gotta work them room.

Oh, yeah.

I just watched the interview and that.

Nigga just be going up, like unexpectedly.

That nigga go up and do at least seven to 43 minutes.

I just watched an interview with Cam Newton and Corey Holcomb and they were.

Corey was like, I can't see him as a comedian until he gets to the status of him as he was like a rapper.

Like, until he gets to that.

Do you ever think his standup will reach that pinnacle where to match his rap fame, rap success?

If that nigga come out with a good special, like urban legend?

Yeah, that come out with one of them.

You feel me?

Yeah, will respect me.

All it is is a good special.

You feel me?

Are respectful.

But, you know, every comedian got their own opinion, right?

Like, I can't.

I can't.

Like how he say he can't respect them until he come out.

Until he reached the status of how he was in the rapid.

Like, to me personally, I can't respect a comedian if you ain't working out in the hard rooms, right, Doing open mics.

You hear me?

Like, all that, all that setting up show, booking shows, working on new material.

And then these folks coming to see you laugh.

Like you don't know if that joke good or not.

Cause these folks came to see you laugh, so they gonna laugh at anything.

Walk your ass in those spots where people ain't expecting you at all.

And you just go on stage and you want to decide you want to tell jokes tonight, that's when you know that shit funny.

That's real.

That's real.

Who do you feel like is a comedian?

That's underrated.

I got asked this on the One podcast and I said K Dub.

So I'm going to say.

What you mean underrated?

Like if they not.

If they not a big star, like.

They putting their work in.

They.

They don't.

You see them, they going crazy, but they just not.

People ain't saying their names.

They're not getting mentioned.

They not getting the recognition.

See me, me.

You were in a movie.

You getting recognized.

Yeah, that's a blessing, but it is deeper than that.

Yeah, now it's way deeper than that.

Now in your bio, you got CEO of ocda.

Stand up comedian, actor, writer, prostitute.

Oh, yeah.

Why?

Why is that in your Bible?

Cause we all.

We all prostitutes.

You feel we all gotta sell ourselves in some shape, form or fashion.

When you get a job interview and you gotta go interview, you gotta sell yourself.

Yeah.

So that why I say I'm a prostitute.

So.

But people be thinking sexually and shit like that, which I want them to think.

So.

But will you sell some sex?

I have before and bought it.

I did both.

So how much is too much?

How much.

How much is too much to pay for the coochie?

Hold on again.

Me and my homeboys was talking about.

We had a guest on here, her name is Janiece.

Very special young lady.

Love her to death.

My boy.

My homeboy was like, well, what would you.

I said, I give her 10 bands.

He's like, 10.

We were saying, the hypothetical was this.

You're a billion dollars up.

You're a billionaire.

You're a billionaire.

A billionaire.

You're a billionaire.

This is.

This is the.

So we're playing with bees, right?

And we were trying to figure out what type of trick would you be at a billion dollar, right?

You got some niggas that's just gonna put the girl up in the loft, whatever.

You got some niggas that are stingy.

You got some niggas that just gonna pay for it.

So we were trying to figure out what type of trick would you be at a billion dollars.

And I'm the type of trick that'll just hand you your money right up front.

I think you see.

Yeah.

What type of trick would you be, bro?

See, I ain't.

I ain't lost the value of a dollar.

See, we live at a billion dollars, nigga.

No, listen, bro, I say I ain't lost the value of a dollar, meaning that we living in a time where people think money ain't nothing.

Oh, yeah.

Like, you seen who said that, like, a million is the new hundred thousand.

Like, no, no, a hundred thousand nigga is a hundred thousand.

Yeah.

So if I was a billionaire, like, I remain down to earth.

Like, if I identify her needs and I'm give her that with a little extra 40.

Like, I ain't been just give you 10,000 just to give to you.

I don't care how much money I got, like.

Cause I.

Cause.

Cause I got.

I Got family members, I got kids, like.

Cause in my mind, once I give you that money, like, I don't did it before, not 10,000, but I don't gave a bitch some money.

And then I go to feeling like, damn, I could have gave my daughter that shit.

Like, you feel me?

But you.

There's a.

Yeah, yeah, like, bitch, like, you feel me?

I might give me what they need.

Yeah.

So.

But there's a level of.

There's a level of money that you can attain to where money stops being.

It starts.

It starts being imaginary.

Okay, really what I'm gonna tell you where it really.

But it's gonna always feel like that.

Like if I get her 10,000, I still.

I'm still gonna feel like now I still could have gave.

My.

My daughter's still gonna need something.

So we were trying every day.

This is what we were trying to figure out, right?

We was like, damn, bro, when you start looking at these diddies and the.

What's the dude from what's the Abercrombie being fitched?

We was like, damn, all these niggas got all this money.

And it's just like, at what level of money do you just turn to that level of perverted?

And I'm gonna tell you something.

Look, if you get like you said, he gave us just 10,000.

If you giving a bitch that type of money, like just to get to it, that mean you want to control it.

And I don't want to control no female.

Cause if you get like a female gonna feel like, oh, you just gave me 10,000, like I do anything like.

And then gonna start manipulating your dumb ass because you think you finna get another 10,000.

Now.

It don't trickle down, nigga get a thousand.

Now, now, now.

You know, it's so funny, you might feel a different way.

Cause they always say a way to woman's heart is laughter.

So you being a comedian, tell me about a time.

Give me a scenario in a time where you used your comedic skills to get something bad, nigga.

Man, being a comedian, I don't dealt with a lot of bad female.

I ain't had no money.

All just got jokes, jokes and dick.

That's all got for jokes and dick.

And once that it come to an end, though, cuz, like, oh, you.

That's all you got is company.

You ain't bringing nothing to the table.

So give.

So give us the top.

Like I'm at the table waiting on you, like the hell you got going on?

So give us the top.

Three icebreakers.

What to when you're talking to a woman, top three icebreakers, talking loud.

Don't know how to act in public.

No, n.

I'm saying, like, to break that.

Like, when you.

When you meeting a girl for the first time, you being a comedian, you got some slick shit to say.

What is some, like, three of the things that you do to just break the ice right out the gate?

I like to ask them, like, who they belong to.

Yeah.

I be thinking I'm like a slave owner or some shit.

Who your ass belong to, nigga.

What?

It's cliche, but I done did it before, and it worked.

Like, I don't ask a girl you want to drink.

And that worked.

Like, you know, you see it in the movies and like that, but it really worked.

But I bet if you said, do you want $10,000?

Yeah, that bitch.

That's.

That's 100.

That's 100 for 100.

That's.

That's elitric.

See, if you want a drink, if you accept the drink, then I know, like, you will take $100.

Yeah, for sure.

A bitch who want 10,000, like, yeah, I don't want no drink.

Right.

You need to.

So when Kalamar has a show, what is the etiquette, right?

When you got.

Cause you do shows, there's other comedians around, obviously.

So what is your etiquette for when people try to ask you or hound.

You for tickets to come to your.

Show, get backstage, do all that extra shit.

What is your policy on all that?

What you mean?

Like, for people to come backstage?

I'm saying just, like, you might meet somebody and they, you know, man, man.

Let me get backstage, like, for when I'm in the city.

Like, if it's a local comedian, like, I give him a guest spot.

I always gotta get a local comedian, like, a guest spot or some shit.

Gotta show love.

Yeah.

Far as coming back, like, after the show, I take pictures.

We do a meet and greet.

You feel me?

We sell merch.

I take pictures, but I just be chilling in the green room.

Whoever wanna come back there, like, I be, you know, vibing with the comedians, like, the local comedians and shit like that, you know, dropping game and like that.

And then I go on stage and do my thing and get the up out of there, go back to the room.

What do you look for when.

What do you look for in the opener?

Like, you say you like to show love to the locals.

What do you look for in that opener that you pick?

I don't look for.

I don't.

You just.

You just show up, I peek.

I peek out and watch them.

But I don't.

I try to be in my zone.

No, I'm saying, like, I'm saying when you're picking who, like, how do you go about picking the person you're gonna.

Oh, I don't care about the funniest.

Like, you got some comedians.

Like, how you say them older comedians.

You got older comedians.

And I ain't even gonna say older comedians.

You just got some comedians in general.

Like, damn, want no funny on stage, going before them.

You feel me?

So that's why sometimes you just get.

A.

Yeah, they don't want a go out here and suck all the energy out this crowd and go out here and blaze that.

And then he got to come behind that.

So they want, like, old Rudy Pooh pee on that to go on stage.

That why when you see some of these on tour with these, they don't need be.

They be just like a.

A regular comedian.

Cause a who headlining know what the he doing.

He know, like, he finna go outshine into you, right?

But it ain't like that.

But you got some real comedians who don't give a.

They want the fun because they want the whole show to be funny.

Yes, yes, yes.

And that's the type of niggas I come up under.

Niggas who don't give a fuck.

Niggas like K Dub, the Mike Epps.

Like, they don't care who go up.

You feel me?

And D Ray Davis, you know, he fuck with me.

So is that like an insecurity within the comedian, you think?

If you don't want to.

Cause, like, why would you want bad product out there?

Like, so they can look good.

That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.

So would there be insecurity on the comedy?

Yes, yes.

This is a big insecurity.

Like, nigga, if a n a funny, then they just funny, right?

That shit make you want to be better, right?

It's 24 hours in a day, and you can't be funny for one minute out the day for meaning, like, coming up with material and writing and shit, right?

What's some of the game you done picked up from working with Mike Epps?

The first gym he dropped on me was like, if I'm gonna take it serious, moved to New York or Atlanta.

And then like, after that, I moved to Atlanta and started, like, making a name for myself and like that.

Why those two stay out of.

Wait, why.

Why those two specific cities, though?

What is it about those Two cities.

Those are the cities where like they gonna let you know if you funny.

All the stars don't been through here, so all these people, they don't hurt at all.

So you really gotta stand out.

And it's somewhere to perform every night, all times of the night, nigga, they be having like midnight room that would be lit, like packed out.

Show start at midnight and they running behind.

Hell yeah.

Like that's type of shit you see in Atlanta, in New York.

And I got a show in New York tomorrow.

Oh, man, congratulations on that.

Now number two, you said that's the second.

That was first gym.

What was the second gym?

I was stay out of niggas faces and don't kiss no ass.

Remain true to yourself.

And like, I.

I take that because I don't like kissing no ass.

Like, and I ain't gonna kiss no ass.

You see what's going on with.

We out the world seeing the downfall of Diddy and yeah, all this shit.

Do you think that is a way to make that funny or do you think that's.

Is there certain things that shouldn't be made to be like, funny?

Like there's certain situations that just ain't funny.

Like, we're not gonna play with that.

I think, like, I don't like to speak on them, but in my mind it's just like they just fucking with them and locking them away for just for being freaky.

Right?

Like at the end of the day, like, you like narrow all this shit down.

Y'all lock me away because I'm too freaky.

I got too much money and I can do all the freaky shit I want to.

All these hoes who grown, you hear me?

Cause I don't say nothing about like no rape.

And all this dude they have, it's.

There's people coming now.

That video of him and beating Cassie, I was like, damn.

But like, for.

Cause like n used to with Diddy.

Because all like, it's just allegation ain't seen nothing.

Yeah.

Once they take nigga seen that video, like, damn, you kind of like lost me.

Damn.

Yeah, he did everything they said now.

When she said yeah, yeah, yeah type shit.

Yeah.

Like whatever they said you did, nigga, you did it.

But that's like, that's just another black man.

It's just like, man, it's like, who gonna be next?

He be like, that lady be trying to tear our stars down.

Like one at a time type shit.

You feel me?

Like all these white people be doing this shit.

Like, they don't be saying none of them.

Nah, they getting some of their asses now.

They getting.

They starting to get their Abercrombie.

They got his ass.

Yeah, yeah, they Abercrombie and Fitch.

He got a bond.

That word.

I'm saying, like, I want you to react to this.

I want you to react to this.

Breaking news.

Lil Durk has been arrested because of his charges.

Murder for hire on Quando Rondo.

Your immediate reaction?

Cuando Rondo did.

No, no, no.

They arrested.

They got a RICO on.

Who did?

His right hand man got killed when cd.

Oh, no.

Oh, his cousin Lil Pop.

Okay.

For the death of Quando Ronald's cousin Lil Pop.

Yeah.

See y'all are podcasting.

See, I don't be knowing about it.

I didn't know either.

I was on your page looking at and this just popped up on my page.

I just wanted your immediate reaction.

So little Dirt, he just got arrested.

For basically being a hitman?

For hiring hitman to kill Rondo Quando.

Quando Rondo.

Yeah, but Quando Rondo not dead.

Nah, his cousin died.

Damn.

So I don't know, man.

Like, I just hold down, try to do him like young third.

Like how they kept men up for a long time.

At least.

At least give him a bond and no bond.

Oh, it's federal.

Yeah, he had it there.

Yeah, man, I don't know.

And you're from Atlanta.

Well, you're not from.

But you.

You reside in Florida.

Yeah, I reside.

So.

So I'm saying, didn't Dirt in Atlanta?

I think a lot of all them.

Yeah.

A lot of stay out there.

Yeah.

Cuando everybody moved to Atlanta.

Yeah.

But to be honest with you, I don't be keeping up that rap beef stuff.

Right.

But I'm just curious.

Is it one of those things where the city feels it like when.

Like when the YSL trial happened?

Hell no.

Cause everybody think they're a celebrity.

They want to be arrested.

Like, why ain't get arrested.

Many bodies out of.

That's crazy.

Everybody want to be a celebrity in Atlanta.

But for real, is that what it is?

But they what, like, niggas will see.

Niggas will see future and be like, why niggas ain't looking over here?

Like, oh, so it ain't wanna be everybody.

You would think everybody.

When it's like, I ain't gonna lie.

Cause when I moved it like, once you moved to Atlanta, it like that spirit just come over you.

Like, damn, I gotta be something.

You Feel me like, n.

I gotta make something shake out here type.

So that's why, like, it's really like that, you know?

Like, I used to believe it was a myth.

Cause I used to hear it all the time.

Like, you need.

If you want to blow it, you need to move to Atlanta.

Like, I be like, man, y'all just be saying that shit.

Then when I moved out there and it seemed like an air.

It like hospitality.

Everybody wanna see you win.

But you do got, like, the slick shit type shit, the hatin shit.

But as a collector, you don't hear about it because they keep it in the city.

Got you.

So.

So from that aspect, it is unity.

But inside the city, it's really just like everybody.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's unity.

But everybody think they somebody that they not in and out and are finesse.

Your females, too.

Like, female be acting like they got damn got money, but really they got a they with who ain't?

Well, who really ain't with them?

Just using them as a mule and just getting them money and shit, Putting them up and the whole board and wanting to have fun.

That's crazy.

But as soon as that nigga go to college, she gotta drop everything she doing.

That's crazy.

So what.

What is the one thing that you may have perceived a certain way, and then you got there and it was just way different.

Oh, the comedians.

I thought, like, when I moved to Atlanta, I thought, like, when I moved to Atlanta, I thought everybody was gonna be funny.

I'm like, boy, damn.

Like.

Cause that's probably why it took a while.

Cause I'm like, damn, I ain't trying to go out there.

I'm kind of like one of the top two guys out here in Dallas type shit.

You feel me?

But I was like, nah, I'm gonna go out there and challenge myself even.

But I thought everybody was funny.

Then when I got out there, just like my first time doing come.

Remember I told you I went to the comedy club to check it out and I seen how many people weren't getting no laugh.

It was the same thing.

When I moved to Atlanta, I was like, oh, these is kind of.

You feel me on the lame side.

Like, these really ain't ain't bringing it how I thought they were gonna bring it.

You feel me then?

You feel me Then I just started making a name for myself, trying to find myself.

And I moved out there with the work shit.

To never do shit at work.

So I was wearing work vests and shit, performing in work vests and all type of shit.

Just trying to find myself.

Try shit and get my face out there.

If you had any advice for a young comedian that's trying to find their lane or whether it be in social media or stand up, what would you tell them?

Stay consistent.

I tell them to do, I tell them to do stand up.

If you doing comedy, I advise.

I don't care what type of comedy you're doing.

I just advise you to do stand up.

Because once you get good at stand up, all the extra shit is gonna come and then you can use that, you know, later down, you know, later down in your career to get bookings for stand up.

Like I said, like we might do the movies and all that.

Like people gonna always want to see you.

Cause they, you might be.

They might not even with stand up, but you might be in one of their favorite movies.

So they coming out to come forward.

Man, that's crazy.

You got any shout outs?

Yep.

Shout out to.

Shout out to God, man.

Amen.

Without, you know, which God.

Yeah.

Which God up above, you know, without him, none of this would be possible.

Shout out to all my well wishes.

Shout out to my supporters.

Shout out to my, my company.

You feel me?

And shout out to my team.

Yep.

Are you still.

When are we gonna be getting the videos of you?

You know, probably starting next week.

Actually, I was editing something today, so starting next week, you feel me?

Cause you know, we right now we doing consultations.

You know, I go on live and people come on live, join my live.

That's kind of going up too.

Like that's gonna be big, like the consultation.

Like people be joining my live telling me all type of crazy shit.

I remember you also said that you were looking to hire.

Are we still in that phase?

Are we.

Have we still.

Oh yeah, yeah, we still looking to hire an agent.

We looking to deploy some agents in May of next year.

You feel me?

So yeah, yeah, we can.

Looking to deploy some agents in May because I can't get going out in the field because I know I'm probably be busy and shit.

So for sure, we definitely looking for agents to deploy.

And what can the people be looking forward to as far as, you know, what you got shows and events or movies, what can we.

Oh, speaking of moving man, I got my team, my agency, they working on getting me audition for the new Friday movie.

You in that we didn't get.

Yeah, yeah, I gotta be in a new Friday movie.

Is it a new Friday movie?

Yeah, they working on the news.

Oh, this is confirmed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to get an audition for that, then we going to get there.

We.

Yeah, as soon as you.

We got the tour coming up.

30 city tour, you know, OCDA tour.

Like I say, I fly to New York in the morning, then we with my elves this weekend in Austin, then LA next Monday.

Yeah, we just got more shows coming in.

We booking shows.

We ain't gonna be in Dallas because me and Jeff, we trying to be in there.

Yeah, we trying to get My team.

They trying to put a show together in Dallas right now.

Yeah, let us know because we definitely come support me.

Hell, yeah.

I'm gonna buy a ticket.

I'm gonna hope you give us one for free.

Now we're gonna buy some.

Yeah, we.