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[Roving Episode] It was a day in spring
13th May 2023 • Dear Gardener • Ben Dark
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Malus × domestica and Taraxacum officinale (apple and dandelion) take to May's springy stage in this special on location recording that starts deep in the beach woods and bursts into the orchard.

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Episode overview:

[00:00:16] Ben talks winter and spring weather and how it affects the growth of plants like apples and bird cherries, and why he decided to record the episode in the woods rather than at his desk. The ground is covered in beach kernels and dry leaves, making a crunching noise when stepped on.

[00:02:48] The winter aconites are blooming staggered, possibly for an advantage. The area will soon be deserted of pollinators, but was once covered in flowers. The author wishes they could experience the beauty forever. They walk past an understory U tree.

[00:05:12] Discussion of spring in the UK and Denmark, including the appearance of dandelions and their potential use in producing rubber for car tires. We also examines the anatomy and function of dandelions, including their papas and role in seed dispersal.

[00:13:59] Blowing dandelion seeds not all bad. Dandelions hard to grow, try not cutting lawn too short. Seed-eating beetles help reduce dandelions. Leave lawn longer for fewer dandelions.

[00:16:20] Apple blossom time is perfect when buds are half open and half closed. The king bud produces the best fruit. Apples need cold for proper formation of flowers and lack of cold causes poor pollination.

[00:24:01] Observations of diverse species in grassy understory with small apples on dwarfing stock, well-pruned for fruit. Seeing a variety of heritage apple trees with grafted and non-grafted roots. Also, discussion of a recent planting project and a classic rose ACA flowering.

[00:30:50] Bee landed in hair, hair wild, no time for vines, thanking supporters.


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It's a terrible garden for weeds, this is. You know, sir, I am aware

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of that tree. They used to keep a boy here in the old days.

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Nothing to do all day but pull up weeds.

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Hello and welcome to Dear Gardener with

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me, Ben Dark. You join me sitting on a tree stump

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in the woods, the best sort of place to be on a day like this.

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It's hot out there a bright, bright blue sky.

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We have no sign of any cloud, so the woods feel

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like refuge for the first time this year,

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just about opening the beach leaves, which means that the

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apples that I'm going to go and see soon will

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certainly be out. They're pretty closely tied, I think.

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It's all due down to the temperature in the month before.

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So it doesn't really matter how cold January is or December is.

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What matters is how cold the end of March and April is. That's what

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tells us when the beach is going to open, when the apple is going to

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open, when the bird cherry opens. Those three are

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good indicators all at the same time.

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Anyway, I'm here because I had sat down at

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my desk to record an episode with some

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talk about teasing out napita

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and watering pots. And then I looked outside and

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it was all so beautiful and

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so beckoning, so I thought, well, why not take the mobile

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equipment and see what's going on

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in the woods and beyond? So here I am. There's going to

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be a bit of crunching as I stand up. We had a mast year last

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year, huge production of beach kernels and

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they are still flapping about

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on the floor. Well, not really flapping about, they're spiky little things,

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they make a good noise underfoot and I'll be walking on those.

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And there's a lot of dry leaves now. A couple of days are dry

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and what had seemed a flat centimeter

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thick mat has fluffed up into

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last year's old leaves, so they'll be crunching about in a second.

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What about weed killer for the dandelion?

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Would you like me to get some, sir? No, I prefer my own.

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I've got the materials. I wouldn't put it down. This dry weather,

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sir, tends to lie around, needs to soak in, you see.

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Not the way I use it, Jay. Not the way I

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use it.

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The last winter aconite. Last winter

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aconite just poking out there. They seem to have a slightly

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staggered flowering. I don't know if it's a particular

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population, flowers later, or if

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these ones are going for a second flush. Suppose I could go and have a

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little look.

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I think it's probably their first flowering. They just gone for

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a little bit, little bit of a later thing. Probably gives them some sort of

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advantage to have a population that doesn't flower all at once.

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It's a beautiful, beautiful, very long

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antennaed moth or a beetle disappeared

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into the woods and litter. Anyway, soon this place

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will all be bare and deserted. There's only a few litter pollinators remaining.

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Most of them have moved away into the

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open fields and gardens. But a month and a half ago, this really

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was where it was at in

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terms of flowering carpets of

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an enemies everywhere. It was one of those moments.

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I think it was two weeks ago, I was out in a similar woodland,

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looking at the most beautiful galaxy of

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anemones from a bud. And it was a moment when

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you wish I wish I knew less about plants. I wish I was

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seeing this for the very, very first time and could

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somehow convince myself that it would go on forever, that it

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wouldn't be over in just ten days,

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fading away for another year. That's why everyone

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gets into mindfulness, isn't it? To make these moments

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not extendable. Enjoyable. Enjoyable as we experience

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them. There's a bit of crunching here as I make my

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way out past a brilliant

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understory U for you, who has never seen

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the toporous trimmers.

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Driving an old file into the ground. Drop one of the tiny packets

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into each aperture. Do this in the case of each dandelion,

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taking a separate dose to each.

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And here we reach the woodland edge with some little

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bits of grass.

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And the first dandelion.

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This is definitely dandelion week.

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I was back in the UK a little bit

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last week. Lovely living between two

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countries like this,

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because you experience spring

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twice, almost. And if there's something you really, really enjoyed in

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a bit of UK spring, you can hot foot it over to

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Denmark, where starts are pretty similar,

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and you can experience it again two weeks later. So that's

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a tip for anyone that really

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enjoyed a bit of this spring or really like something they're seeing now.

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Book yourself. Train journey, car journey,

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not a flight, because you'll ruin my podcast and come out

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here and see it again. I suppose you do get

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people who behave almost like the

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groupies who follow a band around the country and go to every

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single one of their shows. You could slowly walk

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north with the wooden enemies singularly came out

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at wooden enemy pace.

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Anyway, coming around the corner now, past these rotted

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old stumps, gnarled old trees.

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Yes, with the UK. The UK was wet and warm.

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We had a couple of days of absolutely torrential rain

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and then those blissful evenings where

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you get dry under dove

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gray sky after a whole day of wet and everything is

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glistening and suddenly the worhub is 200%

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more alive. Every single hedgerow is

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covered in those tiny glass like new

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little snails. And little slugs,

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so sweet little slugs that you could make a

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Disney cartoon out of. They look so charming.

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Lots of those eating the garlic mustard.

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And in the UK, the main dandelion crop,

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the main dandelion flush, had gone to seedhead,

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which was a delight for my son, who is a

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big dandelion puffing fan puffing.

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It incredibly ostentatiously. Gets down to dandelion

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level, squatting on his haunches and does that big

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toddler blowing out a candle puff that incredibly

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inefficient. All noise

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and rasp and no actual air

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until the seeds go away. So he really

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enjoyed that. But here we have our dandelions out

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and yellow.

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They're really good flowers. I know that I'm not alone in

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saying that the RHS this year is doing a big hero plant

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campaign. These things are no longer weeds, they are

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hero plants, and we should all be appreciating them

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in our lawns. And we should. We really should.

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I know there's lots of professional gardeners

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who listen to this podcast, who tend to nowadays

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be in the vanguard of the

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embracing weeds and getting rid of all

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of those nasty chemicals. Moving didn't used to be so, but now they are,

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and more often than not, them trying to convince their clients to go

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weed killer free. They can listen to this section of the podcast where I

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just pick up a little dandelion and pluck it and marvel

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at how amazing it is. I've got a little yellow one in my hand now,

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full of ants. I wonder what the ants are doing.

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I doubt they're harvesting the latex. You can

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make rubber from dandelions,

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not from our native dandelion, not from the Taraxicum

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aficionale, but from one of its

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Kyrgyzstani relatives. I think you're able to

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harvest that white SAP that just came out when I plugged that there

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and refine it in just the same way you do the

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rubber tree. It's the same compound

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at latex. Plants tend to use

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the same compounds. When a plant is producing

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anthrocyanins, it is not reinventing the wheel each time.

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It's using the same sort of stuff. And this is the

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right stuff to make tires out of. You could drive your car

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on dandelion tires one day.

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They know what those little creatures were doing. There's lots of

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life that lives inside a dandelion flower

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because it's such a rich

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bit of nutrient there when

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you're pumping the energy up to produce

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those petals. But particularly when the fertilizers

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have come and you

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have this race to develop seeds and get them

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away quickly before all of the little

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field grubs and beaters and things can get in there and lay

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little white worms at the bottom and start devouring them. Or you

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sometimes tear open a dandelion and

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you can see little black bits at the bottom. And that's where a

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little weevil has been in there eating

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and fallen out and pupating.

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I'm just opening another one up now. This is a dandelion

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that has been pollinated. The flowers are quite interesting.

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It's asterisfier, so it's all sort of

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disc and ray florets dandelion. The vast majority of them are

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ray florets, those fused petals

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in a tube that go out to create a great big pom pom.

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Looking at now, you can see the anthers

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rising in between the maturing from the

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outside and then pushing them on later. Anyway,

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the one that's pollinated is at the stage where it's developing

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the great pappas, the umbrella

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thing on the top, that will carry them away. I was reading

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once the role of the pappas,

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the papas. It's got a couple

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of things that it obviously carries. It it obviously is the parachute,

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but it's also a sort of protection.

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So if you are a snuffily sort

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of creature who's wandering around looking for a snack, a little

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ball of seeds presented to you on the long dandelions

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stem would be very tempting indeed. But you don't

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really want a mouthful of furry pappas

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on there. And the third one,

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they are incredibly good wicks,

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so they take up ambient moisture and this doesn't

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help them, particularly in flying, but what it does help is when they

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land on the ground, the papas

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can turn sideways and sort of suck moisture

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up to the seed from the air,

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which really helps that initial germination bit.

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It's a marvel of a marvel of

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evolution, really. The papas, the parachute, is dead cells.

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It is an equivalent of our hair and things,

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but they can open

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and close, draw themselves in and open up again and

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close up again, depending on whether it's a nice day for

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flying. That all depends on that little pad

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at the bottom, that little apical thing.

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It's.

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Hello, Martin. Hello. Martin armstrong

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here. Look, I'm sorry about all this kerfuffle about the Velanoeth estate.

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Why, why don't you pop over to Mayfield for

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tea? We can chat about the whole thing informally and I'll

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show you around the garden. I'm rather proud of it, actually.

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When my son was doing all the blowing, we got all sorts of people saying,

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oh, he's not going to be very popular, the dandelion seeds

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flying off in the area, but they would have all come off anyway. And he

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probably actually did them a favor because the way

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he had to huff at them probably means they weren't

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mature seeds he was sending out anyway. So he's probably

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done some sterilization efforts for

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those of the world who hate dandelions in their lawn.

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If you do hate dandelions, if you do hate dandelions in your lawn,

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my advice would be not to cut it. So, sure,

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dandelion seedlings, well, their germination

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rate is tiny and generally what happens is a lot

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of them get eaten by seed eating beetles. There's a whole,

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whole host of generative seed

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eating species, but there's a particular one,

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I can't remember what it is. It's amos, something like that.

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Amethyst. The sun beetles.

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Amora. Amora might be the sun

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beetles, and some of them specialize in just

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eating dandelion seeds.

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So a couple of matchbox full of those and

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then just don't cut your lawn so short because they're tap root species.

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The dandelion wants to develop a really big root

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system and that's what it really focuses on first so they're very vulnerable

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to getting outgrown by surrounding

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grasses, even by surrounding clothes in that very,

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very early stage. So leave it a little bit longer and you have

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far fewer.

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As I was saying, my dear Martin, all would be fine if it wasn't for

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these deuced weeds. Yes, measure about

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a martyr to weeds. Now, my gardener was saying it's because we

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are surrounded by fields here. My clients are adamant.

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I see the majors left the tea thing. Sit you down. Sit you down.

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One lump or two, please. I'm afraid I am a little and

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you must have one of these buttered stones. Excuse my

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fingers.

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We're in an orchard right now. You probably heard the Gate

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Creek open just walking up to

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one of the apples here. It's perfect. Perfect apple

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blossom time. You don't want to catch an apple blossom tree too late because

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you lose the pink. The pink in an apple is concentrated on

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the backside of the petal and strongest

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when they are tightly, tightly furled. And you get a suggestion

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of pink in the veining and a blush on

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the back later on, but you see far less of it. So you

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want to find a tree like the one I'm looking at now that has half

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buds open and half buds closed. They're funny

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little things, these apertures.

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This one, the king bud, is just over. So I don't know if you've ever

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looked at your aperture. Go and go and look at them. You'll find that

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generally they are all clusters

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of five or sometimes six flowers,

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sometimes seven as well on each tip

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bearing or spur bearing bit. And there'll be one bud,

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the king bud, that opens before the others.

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And that's the bud that apparently produces

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the best fruit. It opens first, it'll be open on its own for a few

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days and then these lateral buds start doing their business.

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So if you are there for a day where you have the king buds open

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and maybe one lateral bud and three lateral

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buds still to come, one in pink tight furl, one in

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just opening and the other in

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almost ready to if you squeezed it,

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it would be open stage. That's the best time, I think, to look at apple

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trees. They are my favorite

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blossom tree, I think. I don't like them.

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Too heavy with blossom. You know, when you see a really heavily

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blossomed ornamental crab apple species

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and you can't see through it, I think that loses a little bit of the

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magic and romance. You want to have a little bit of a

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little bit of gap and green behind. The green also

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helps because they do flower with the new leaves.

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I think they work really well together. That pink and white and green and that

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special, that special gray green,

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that special velvet green that covers

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the calyx and the flower stalk.

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It's something that you probably don't even notice when you

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see an apple tree. But I think it does. I think that tone, that gray

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green is such a good offsetter,

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as anyone who has painted their door in

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that color recently will no doubt know.

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It almost tends towards powdery mildew color.

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I suppose that's beautiful in a way as well.

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Anyway, yes, those things that block Prunes Canzan, which I

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was talking about last week, is a key example of that, that completely block

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the sky are lovely, but they haven't got the joy

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of the blue or the gray or whatever

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else is going on in the environment behind them. I've been

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reading a lot of Priest recently,

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as I like to do, and I'm

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a great proust advocate. And don't worry about being

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regarded as pretentious because you'll end up enjoying it and you can't be pretentious

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if you actually do enjoy it. I'm reading

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Sodom and Gamora or The Cities of the Plain, which had his fourth

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book in that Remembrances of

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Things Past series. And there's a wonderful bit

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just after the period of

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horrible self indulgent mourning for

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his grandmother when

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he realizes how horrible he was all

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the time and he snapped out of it, the narrator by the

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apple trees in blossom and

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the sight of the blue sky between them. There's a great passage

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and he's talking about seeing them with this blue behind it

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as if they had been painted by the best sort of amateur painter.

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And then suddenly the sky turns and it grays and turns

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to slashing rain and it's after these

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two solid pages of proper bruce and

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text where you don't get a paragraph break, you suddenly get

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a little semicolon. It was a day in

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spring. I think about that a lot this spring. It was a day

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in spring when I'm missing my wooden enemies

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and mourning that they're gone for another year. It was a

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day in the spring. Anyway, those are the apples.

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Those are my thoughts on them. They're good plants for Denmark. They do

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well here, the apples. Apples need cold.

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It's essential to their flowering

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and producing. They start all the flower buds,

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flowers and plants and trees, they start working well in advance of what we

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think. All of these buds that I'm looking at now and getting such

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great pleasure from probably started developing around harvest

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time last year. But they

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kind of develop as just do anything.

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Like, here's a bud, we'll decide what to do with it later. And then

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it's the temperatures which trigger the chemical symbols and the hormonal

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symbols that let's put this one into a branch, let's put

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this one into a flower. And not having cold winters, messes that

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all up. And also messes up the

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late winter, early spring, messes up the

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actual formation of the individual flowers. Just letting these

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bunch of Hollywood makers go off to wherever they're

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going. Messes up the formation of

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the flowers. So the late January,

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February, March time is when all of those cells are

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differentiating themselves inside the buds I'm looking at now,

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when they say I'll be an ovary, you be a pistol,

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you be an anthro and you be a bit of pollen. And it's pollen

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is always the last one to come. So if you don't get any cold

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in late spring, you get plants without pestiles and without pollen,

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which are useless for producing any apples.

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So next time, if you find yourself cursing, as I

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frequently did in this very, very long

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lingering winter, you find yourself cursing that.

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Think of the apples, think of the cider,

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think of the blossom that you will see in the spring.

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It's all going to be worth it.

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My father in law is a chemist and he had some of them analyzed.

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If you look here, you'll see a small hole has been punched in

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the bottom of some of them and then covered over. Yes, I see. And these

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ones contained arsenic. Yes. Well, it's a ticklish business,

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gentleman. I'll see what I can do.

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I'll need the urine sample and these chocolates for analysis by

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our people. In the meantime, Mr martin don't

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accept any more tea invitations from the Major. That's just the trouble.

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He keeps on inviting. Mr Martin, whatever you do, don't go.

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Very nice. There's lots of understory

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things. You really can see the difference that leaving grass

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makes. The mowing here is obviously

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done by machine. You can see that because they have quite

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large turning circle around the tree where

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they can't get close enough. If you had a pedestrian mower, you'd be able to

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get closer and they haven't left it long deliberately,

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but they're not able to reach under each tree. And the

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diversity of species under the trees is fantastic.

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I guess partially it's because these are small apples on

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dwarfing stock, well pruned for fruit, which means well pruned

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to get light through, which means they're never casting a dense shade, but they

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are able to provide a little bit of shelter

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and protection. They're not baking like

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you get in a large flat lawn. Under this one,

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we've got little speed wells looking absolutely gorgeous

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there. Lovely little plant,

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just two anthers. And then

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you've got great collection of daisies. You've got

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the fading remnants of something ornamental,

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something from a lily family.

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And you've got celendine over

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here. We've got a dock. Over here.

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We've got cancer mum growing underneath

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this one, which is very exciting to see this

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cardamom protensus, which is the cuckoo

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flower. Now this seems right, seeing this on

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a sunny day. It always seems to me to be

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a plant that you should be seeing in the wet.

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Apparently it strikes very easily

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from leaf cuttings. Watching a video, I can't

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remember who put it on the internet of how to strike that from

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leaf cuttings. It's quite good. Pink is a bit pinker than

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the so it's not pinker. It's a bit more mauve

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than the apple blossom above. Got a bit more of that

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brassica Ethernet. It's got a classic brassica

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shaped the flower very cruciform.

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Anyway, in terms of my gardening, this has

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been a fairly shy old week with

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a trip back to the UK and a lot of looking after.

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The young boy, I haven't done so much. I did do some

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planting with him at his nursery on Grandparents

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Day. I pretended to be the youngest grandparent there because he doesn't have

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grandparents in this country. Grandparents Day is a big thing going

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and plant plants. We put in some of my seedlings,

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which I've grown myself, which is pleasant, and some of

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that supermarket salvia, and hopefully

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there'll be the best plants there, beat all the other grandparents

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and I can be the youngest and the best garden out of all

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the grandparents. That would be very satisfying. Now, this is a proper tree,

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I think, that here they're growing

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a huge variety of apples and they're almost doing it as

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a demonstration of different heritage varieties.

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But they're all grafts, all grafted onto

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extremely dwarfing root stock, so they never get particularly

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big. And all grafted at the same height,

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at sort of well above

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hip height, between sort of hip and nipple height,

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they branch out. And so you don't get the wonderful forms that apples grown

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on their own root stock do, nor the wonderful size.

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And here we see an ancient for apple trips which

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aren't particularly long lived species, an ancient apple that is obviously on its

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own rootstock. So branches, low branches at

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knee height and splits off into three

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directions, twisting each one like a leg,

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like the symbol for the Isle of man.

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And it's glorious to see and it's big and it

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looks noble as a tree.

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I was reading that even extremely vigorous

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root stock will never grow a bigger plant than a plant on its own

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root stock, as it were.

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This one, I think, is definitely I can't see any sign of historic

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grafting, so it's on its own root stock. And there's a little egg here.

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Can't see any nest up there. Maybe someone robbed that

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from a nest deeper in the forest and put it there.

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There's a great deal of bees looking up

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into the canopy of this tree. You can see some bumblebees and some honeybees fluffing

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around in there. Apple trees have a good

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combination. A classic. This is such a classic flower.

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Classic. I'll do a bit of looking pretty with pink and white and I'll do

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a bit of smelling nice with a few

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benzene compounds in linear smelling it now actually,

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these are the ones I can't smell. Maybe that's maybe

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I've been by damaged by the various

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illnesses that have swept through the global population.

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But you can here we go. This one's just got king Bud.

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Just open this one king. But yes, there we go. And that's that sort of

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cleany, fresh heat, benzoid alcohol kind of

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fragrance. So the bees are going for that and they're going for the looks.

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And it's just a good bit of classic rose

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ACA flowering. I love to see it.

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Anyway, probably time to head back to my

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bicycle now. I got to get back to the nursery and

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pick up the boy. I might take a bottle of water with me

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and water my plant, because I bet

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none of the other grandparents would do that. Bet they'll all forget.

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Then. I'm guaranteed to win.

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Just going to pass this little hoppy blackbird out

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onto the gravel path and down through an avenue

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of malice. Proper ornamental

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crab apple here, doing exactly what I said it shouldn't.

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Creating a dense wall of blossom.

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Yes, come across and have a cup of tea. I've got some cakes

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and things in. Kettles boiling. What about it?

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I don't know if you heard that bee landed in my hair.

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My hair looking quite wild at the moment. Maybe it thought that it was

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a good place to find a hole to nest

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in. Maybe some of the curls looked

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like old wounds on a tree trunk.

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Anyway, I had a little buzz around in my hair and it was gone.

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Now I'm

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not going to go. I'm not going to go down there. I don't have time

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to go and look at the vines. We'll have to do it another time.

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Anyway, thank you very much for joining me on this little walk

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through the woods and out into

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the orchard. Before I go, I must say a

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very quick thank you to Martha, who supported the podcast on

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COFI after last week's episode. It really does

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help me to do this and to not have to

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put Adverts through the middle of it and all that sort of

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stuff. So thank you very much to you and thank you

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to everyone else for listening to this.

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See you again very soon. Thank you and bye bye.

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Times are getting tough and the folks are cutting down. They even decide

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to do their own gardening. They're all gardening.

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Take my advice and knock off for a while. The Happiness Boys are on

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a rampage. Fred has helped

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