You’re not disorganized. You’re carrying a lot of work that no one can see.
When you’re running a business while also managing kids, a household, relationships, clients, and everyday life, there’s an entire layer of work that never makes it onto your calendar or task list. It’s the remembering, deciding, planning, and holding onto all the little things until they finally get done.
In this first episode of our five-part Life First Series, we’re talking about the invisible labor of running a business and why so many traditional productivity tips don’t actually solve the problem. From trying another app to telling yourself you’ll get organized when things slow down, we’re breaking down four common beliefs that can make the mental load even heavier.
Because you probably don’t need more discipline or another productivity hack. You need systems that get things out of your head, work with the way you actually operate, and support the life you’re building your business around.
A Mind Sweep — a guided exercise Rachel uses to brain dump everything she’s holding onto and turn those thoughts into actionable tasks.
Jessica Walther is the founder and CEO of The Launch Collaborative and Sustainable Success Systems. As a launch strategist and systems consultant, Jess is dedicated to helping solo business owners and small-but-mighty teams build businesses that deliver both peace and profit. She specializes in creating sustainable growth strategies that align with her clients' values and lifestyles.
Rachel Lopez is the founder and CEO of Gal Marketing Agency, a boutique email marketing and strategy firm. With over a decade of experience, Rachel helps heart-driven entrepreneurs craft intentional marketing strategies that attract, nurture, and convert leads sustainably. Her human-first approach ensures that marketing efforts feel authentic and effective .
Together, Jess and Rachel blend systems, storytelling, and soulful strategy to help you grow a business that's deeply aligned with your life—not just your revenue goals.
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Life has been lifin' extra hard these days, and if you're like
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:us, maybe you're running a business
or chasing a kiddo around, it isn't
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:the only thing that you're doing.
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:On top of all of this, I run a nonprofit.
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:I co-host this podcast.
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:I run my business, and on top of all of
that, we all do the normal things that
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:help sustain a normal life, like eating
every day, and cleaning your house, and
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:bathing and maintaining a social life.
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:And I think the thing of when
people ask, "How do you do it all?"
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:The answer is, honestly,
we literally don't.
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:I drop things all the time, every
single week, and the reason that that
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:question keeps getting asked, and
I think the honest truth, is that
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:nobody really answers it truthfully.
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:A lot of people are out here comparing
your actual Tuesday, your client
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:call Mondays, to somebody else's
highlight reel of their 10K launch
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:success or their 10-hour-a-week, you
know, 500 lead generator type things.
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:And you end up getting this
comparison trap and wondering,
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:"What the frick is wrong with us?"
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:And so we wanna start this series because,
first of all, nothing is wrong with you.
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:You're carrying a ginormous portfolio of
work, and responsibilities, and things
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:that also don't necessarily exist on
your calendar, and they don't necessarily
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:show up on an invoice or an SOP.
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:is the invisible labor of running
a business, doing all of the
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:things that normal people do,
and trying to make it all work.
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:So we're gonna be naming
all of this today.
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:We're breaking it all down and
specifically, we're gonna be sharing
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:why a lot of the productivity hacks
that are been shared for small
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:business owners and specifically
moms aren't necessarily helping.
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:So this is going to be one of a five-part
series, so let's go ahead and get into it
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:Jessica: But before we do, welcome
back to another episode of Growing a
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:Deeply Rooted Business, the show for
women building businesses that support
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:their lives instead of swallowing them.
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:I am Jess, your systems and
sustainable growth operations half,
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:and I'm here with Rachel, who is
our marketing mastermind/architect.
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:And between us, we've got kids, we've
got teenagers, we've got ADHD, and
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:we've got a couple neuro-spiciness
bits floating around here.
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:We have not a big team behind the
scenes, so when somebody tells us
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:just to theme our days or batch
our content to get caught up, that
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:kinda makes us laugh a little.
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:Before we get into it, it's Monday here.
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:You're probably listening on Thursday,
so you're at the end of the week.
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:But whenever you're listening, we want
you to just let some of that stress go.
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:So take a deep inhale, exhale, and
give yourself permission to stop
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:being the one to carry it all.
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:Alright
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:Let's get into kind of belief number
one, that we tell ourselves when
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:we're trying to handle it all, or
we're trying to work towards that
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:business goal of sipping margaritas
on the beach while we bring in money.
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:Just kinda getting through our days.
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:If you were just more
organized, I could handle this.
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:That is something that we tell
ourselves all the time, I'm sure.
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:And as a Notion person, I always
kinda default to maybe if I just
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:kinda get my Notion a little bit
organized, I won't be more stressed
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:out, when reality, I'm pretty organized
already, and that's not the issue.
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:Rachel: Yeah, this is my biggest problem,
too, and when Jess was in my business,
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:she noticed a lot of it lingered in my
head, and that's both in my personal
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:life as well as in my business.
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:I'm the type of person that I
go, we're out of barbecue sauce.
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:Okay, I'll remember."
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:Did I remember?
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:No, I sure did not remember.
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:So I think a lot of this comes down to
really trying to understand that the
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:problem isn't necessarily discipline.
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:It's literally trying to build a
system that actually supports you.
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:And, I have tried all of the other
systems of ADHD, AD, da, da, da, da,
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:da, and from a marketing side, too,
I tell people, the templates that you
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:buy for your email list wont work for
your business because it's missing your
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:spiciness, your neurodivergent little
things that say, "This only works if
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:you understand that because I do this."
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:And so I think this is the most important
part, is that finding something that
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:really connects with your vibe, you know?
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:Jessica: Yeah, and I think giving
yourself permission to play around.
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:I mean, especially as an ADHD person,
I think for me, I need freshness,
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:I need newness for motivation.
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:So the way that I plan every week
is not the same every week, but I
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:have my notion project management
system that will eventually catch
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:it all the way that it gets there.
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:And I think that a lot of the
overwhelm that entrepreneurs face is
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:that mental overwhelm of just trying
to store everything in your head.
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:So just doing a big old, brain dump
of okay, here's everything that needs
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:to get done, and then looking at
my calendar and being like, "Okay,
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:I've got a meeting here, so this
needs to get done before that."
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:And starting to prioritize things
so that I can get it on a list and
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:at least start checking things off,
whether that's in Notion, which is my
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:Sometimes I do both.
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:Rachel: Yeah, I have a amazing podcast
that I listen to where it's literally
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:just called, A Mind Sweep, and the
link will be in the description.
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:It's minutes of this guy just
narrating, and you're just making a list.
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:And so the system that I've used to help
me get out of these self-sabotage moments
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:where I refuse to write something down
and I say, "Oh, trust me, I'll remember,"
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:and I literally don't, is that will sit
down every Monday, and I will play this
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:15-minute podcast, and I will just brain
dump everything into a Slack to myself
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:or into a channel or whatever I can see.
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:Afterwards, he tells you, "Okay,
now go clean this up, put it to
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:the assigned projects, assign
it a due date," kind of thing.
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:And I have a scheduled AI assistant
that then takes everything that I just
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:did and loads it into my Notion so that
after I've done that brain dump, the
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creating a new task and putting it there.
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:So I've simplified it in the sense
that it's removed a lot of the parts
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:where I'll go, "Oh, I'll do that
later," or, I'll look at Slack."
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:Those elements where for sure
gonna fail myself, I've created
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:that kind of gap to bridge that.
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:So that's something that's definitely,
helped me remove a lot of that mental
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:load of just being like, " I'll do it.
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:My own sabotage of saying,
"I'll remember it."
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:Jessica: I do a similar thing After I
drop off Stella at school, on the way
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:home, I've got about a 30-minute commute.
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:So on the way home, my brain
starts going with everything.
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:Instead of just letting it rummage
around in there and induce more anxiety,
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:I just turn on my voice recorder and
start to record everything that I can.
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:And then I can drop it into a chat
or AI or ever I'm using at that
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:point and disseminate it into it.
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:I also love this for client meetings,
having AI sweep your meeting notes so that
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:you can kinda grab all of those tasks.
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thing is me missing items.
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:So even if I am putting tasks in
after a meeting, I still have my AI
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:go through and sweep the transcript to
make sure that I didn't miss anything,
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:so that I'm not feeling like I'm
constantly having to remember things or
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:forgetting things and then being behind.
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:Rachel: Yeah.
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:So it brings us to myth number
two, which is saying, you know,
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:it's really not that much work.
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:It's just little stuff.
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:It's just putting barbecue
sauce on the grocery list.
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:It's just things like that.
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:But I wanna reframe this in the sense
that, action itself might take you
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:a handful of minutes to do, but me
telling myself, "Hey, remember this"
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:is an active effort for the span of
Friday to Sunday when I'm trying to
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:compile what next week's menus are.
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:And so this goes all into the same
thing as business, where you're
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:saying like, "Oh, I just need
to send that client follow-up.
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:I'll just do it on whatever day it is."
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:It's taking up this space in your brain,
which is why this doesn't necessarily
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:help when you truly are, a solo team or
a solopreneur or a small team business
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:owner is because that invisible labor
doesn't stop when the laptop closes.
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:The actual task may get logged into
wherever it goes, but remembering it
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:and holding onto it so you don't forget
is where can self-sabotage a lot more.
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:So I think the thing that works here
is you're putting it into its allocated
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:bucket, when you have that thought of
saying, my task is instead of doing
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:the remembering, I'm going to just put
it where it needs to go the first time.
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:And it's something I'm telling my son now,
where I'm like, don't walk away from it.
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:Put it back.
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:Put it where it goes."
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:I have to have that remember for
myself, too, so that it's not,
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:getting trapped in here for five days.
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:Jessica: Yes.
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:Yeah, I mean, I feel after a brain
dump, it's like, "Ah, I don't have to
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:remember all of this stuff anymore."
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:It feels so much lighter.
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:And then I'm like, why
don't I do this to myself?
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:Why wouldn't I just do this more often?
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:Why can't I just do an artist way page
every day if I know how good that it
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:makes me feel to brain dump everything?
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:I totally, I totally get it.
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:And you know what?
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:You gotta try to just figure
out what works for you.
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:I saw a girl, I'm like, that's so smart.
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:She has her Apple Watch, and it's
connected to her reminders list, so
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:she can just "Remind me of the barbecue
sauce, Siri," and then it's on her list.
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:I'm like, this is amazing.
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:One thing that I love is we have an Alexa.
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:I kinda don't like her 'cause she
knows way too much about me now.
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:But we have an Alexa in our kitchen,
and I've trained my entire family
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:that when they use something that
they want to get replenished at the
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:grocery store, that they have to
tell Alexa to put it on the shopping
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:list because I will pull up my Alexa
shopping list when I'm there and buy it.
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:But if not, they do not get to buy it.
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:She was unplugged, I don't know
why, but she was not activated and
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:I really missed her, so she's back
in action now 'cause I need all the
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:help from the robots that I can get.
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:Rachel: No, I totally hear that.
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:I totally hear that.
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:Okay, what's myth number three?
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:Jessica: So myth number three
is, I just need a better system,
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:the right app will fix this.
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:And I think that's the same thing as
another template or another AI bot.
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:Implementing anything new into your
business is going to take time.
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:That this is a trap that I fall into a
lot is that I'll be overwhelmed because I
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:have so much stuff to do, but instead of
doing the stuff, I try to get a new system
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:to make the stuff less overwhelming.
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:And then I'm like, "Oh, I just spent
eight hours doing this thing, and
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:now I'm behind on everything else."
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:This is why I think time tracking is
so important so that you are really
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:cognizant of where your time is going to
know, okay, this is a not right now task.
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:Or you'll scroll TikTok and
you'll see somebody built
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:their chief operations officer.
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:And you're going this tangent to build
this but you didn't do any of your work.
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:It's important just to be mindful if
you are that type of person, and we
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:both are that type of person, because
of our ADHD and because we're trying to
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:find these solutions, it's like, okay,
do I have time to invest in this now?
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:Same thing with buying
courses or stuff like that.
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:If you don't have time to implement,
it's not worth doing it at all.
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:So it's not usually the system.
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:I just had this conversation with a new
HR person, she doesn't think Notion's
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:working, so let's move to ClickUp.
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:That's not gonna fix it.
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:It's the habits, the routines that
you've built around that piece of
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:software and not the software itself.
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:Rachel: Totally.
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:And I think, the main thing that
people do is they throw it out
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:before they make it their own.
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:Jess has worked very hard to turn me
into a Notion girly over here, ' cause
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:before I was like, "I don't need this.
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:I don't need that.
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:I can be in ClickUp.
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:I can be in Trello.
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:I can do in all the things."
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:When you actually design something to
work the way you work, not the way that
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:that person on TikTok works or the planner
that you bought is gonna, you know,
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:process it out for you, really making
sure that you build it to give it time
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:to make it your own, I think is super
important, especially when you are saying,
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:"Hey, I'm a no systems type person."
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:Okay, well, you just haven't quite found
your system yet, because everybody needs
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:a system, or else you're just gonna keep
failing the life happens test constantly.
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:Well, I tell myself this every week
when I ignore my tasks for three
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:days, and then I jump back in.
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:I go, "Okay, I need to make these changes.
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:I need to do this kind of thing,"
which is a beautiful thing once
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:you've finally found it, because I
truly was that person who was like,
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:"You know, this isn't gonna work."
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:And then now has beat it
into my head that it, it
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:Jessica: Yeah.
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:I mean, you gotta use it in your way, too.
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:I think people think they fail systems
if they don't use it every day.
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:But I'm a Notion complete nerd, and
there will be days, they're probably not
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:my most productive days, that I don't
open my Notion at all and I'm working
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:off of my head, or I jump straight into
Slack and move from this reactive mode.
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:So it is a little bit about getting
some sort of discipline to start your
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:day, but you just kinda have to figure
out what your work boot-up routine is.
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:Rachel: Yeah.
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:So then that brings us to myth number
four, which is I will deal with this when
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:I hire someone or when things slow down.
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:And I think the problem with this is
that, one, nothing's gonna ever slow down.
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:Jess and I were literally just talking
about how the heck is it September?
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:How did this just happen?
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:Where did summer go?
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:And the second part of that is
that you don't want to bring
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:somebody in and deal with this
stuff after you've hired someone.
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:You want to deal with it now.
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:You want you to be the use case
for a successful employee in your
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:business versus hoping that when you
hire somebody that you'll put the
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:pieces together and figure it out.
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:This is something that I have had to
overcome significantly, and now that we
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:have a really successful VA working in
both of our businesses and in the podcast,
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:it's mindblowing how it's so easy to just
fall into the trap of like, "Oh, I'll just
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:do it myself, it's a five-minute task."
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:But freeing up certain things that exist
in my head and freeing up time on my
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:calendar to live this life first business
that I want to live is so validating
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:that I don't live in these two spaces
of , " I'll just deal with it myself,"
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:and, "Oh, I'll put it off when things slow
down," 'cause that's never gonna happen.
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:Jessica: Yeah, for sure.
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:And I think even preparing to hire
someone makes you so much better
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:at your business or at your role
that you're trying to hand off.
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:I'm in a role right now where I'm kind
of dual strategy and project managing,
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:but I really can't hold it all forever.
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:At this point, there's not enough
systems built around what I want to
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:hand off for someone to step into.
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:So now as I'm going through this
process of building out the system
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:for them, I'm like, "Oh, okay."
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:This is breaking down.
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:"Oh, this is how I did…
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:it and this is how I could be more
efficient, and this is how I'm
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:recreating the wheel every time,
and I don't have to do that."
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:Even if you don't plan on hiring, it's
still worth creating an SOP for or
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:a process for yourself that you can
go back, revisit so that you're not
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:starting from scratch every single time.
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:Rachel and I, we're gonna do a
whole podcast about how we run
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:our podcast on two hours a week.
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:But I think it's really because
we've leaned into don't recreate.
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:We use the same prompt every single week.
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:We use the same pillars that we've
had since before to pull from.
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:We have the same process
for how we're breaking our
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:content down every single week.
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:And we really optimize this podcast
from end to end in a way that allows
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:us just to flow through the week.
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:Even in our busiest weeks, we're
still able to show up and, do this
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:because we've got processes around
it, and we've got it written down,
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:and we're not trying to start fresh.
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:We just kind of have to show up and check
off the boxes, which sounds robotic.
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:But systems like that free up space
for more creativity and other things.
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:Rachel: All right, so let's go ahead
and wrap this one together, 'cause
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:I think the most important part is
understanding the invisible labor is
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:the remembering, the deciding, and the
holding until you decide to then do it.
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:The four beliefs and myths that
we want to help shift while we're
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:starting this series is, one,
you're not disorganized, you're just
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:carrying a lot of unnamed tasks.
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:Number two is that it's not that
it's just a little task that you can
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:hold, it's unaccounted on your list
that needs to go onto your list.
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:Number three is the tools that you
have added have quite literally
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:made it heavier because you have to
maintain them, and it's creating a
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:system that you are working against
versus a system that's working for you.
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:And then four is waiting until you can
afford help doesn't quite work to organize
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:your system or to figure out all of these
things that you're holding onto because
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:you can't really hand off everything
that really just exists in your head.
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:So Over the next four weeks, we're
gonna be breaking this all down by
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:category or by bucket of business.
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:We're gonna do it for your
projects, for your clients.
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:We're gonna show you how we do this
podcast, where most people assume
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:that we have a really large team
because we crank out probably like
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:We don't.
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:We have a massive system that has helped
us, me and Jess, manage this podcast
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:in between all of our businesses, all
of our lives, and all of the things.
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:So, we're gonna be breaking all
of this down for you, so this
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:And so one of the things we wanna
leave you with is that none of this
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:is a discipline problem, right?
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:If discipline were the fix, it would've
been fixed years ago when you decided that
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:you wanted to start a business and you're
still sticking with it five years later.
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:We business owners, small business
owners, especially small team
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:business owners, are some of the most
disciplined people we know because
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:they've stuck with it for so long.
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:So stick with us through this.
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:You do not need more time.
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:You need a system.
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:You need to stop trying to
cookie cutter other people's
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:productivity tasks into your life.
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:If this named something for you,
send it to a friend that you know
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:is also a little neuro spicy and
is productivity optimizing, and
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:help unleash this mental load here.
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:And until next week,
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:Jessica: are rooting for you.