Jeff sits down for a kicked back podcast with a commercial fisherman and learns what it is like to walk a mile in JJ's Grundens. They cover JJ's early life, his adopted parents, and the serendipitous meeting that changed him from a club promoter in the city, to a highly-skilled technician at one of the most dangerous and demanding jobs around. JJ provides valuable insight into why he loves what he does, why he let his friend's pet bird out of its cage, and what it is like to be one of the few black men in a small rural, mostly white community. What he says about the folks out here might surprise you.

Along the way Jeff and JJ take a few conversational pitstops to discuss McDonald's, NSA wiretapping, and the rise and fall of the Hostess corporation.

This one is a good mix of funny and serious. JJ is a great guy and he was a pleasure to have as a guest. I hope you all enjoy... except you Joey(deleted)!

Topics/Keywords: Commercial fishing, commercial dungeness crabbing, Pacific Ocean, sport fishing, adoption, family, dry heat, gardening, random adventures, plants, consciousness, music, Seaside/Cannon Beach, Oregon coast, social justice, small towns, flow state, razor clams, Long Beach WA, McDonald's, health/fitness, Hostess, Twinkies, Zombieland, movies, John Wick, The Matrix, conspiracy theories, Big Brother, Google, Apple, data tracking, NSA, wiretapping, guns, the Great Lakes, fear, recovery, local history, gill netting, demonic acid, salmon, hatchery reform, pet birds, grief, dogs, genetics, cats in heat, audio recording, bar fights, Racism, ignorance, rural life, Guy Cotten, the name Jeff, bullies, Tractor Supply, Boys 'n the hood, Deliverance.