Elias Martin lives at the crossroads of politics, tech, and human behavior. The stuff everyone argues about, but almost nobody understands. As the creator of Political High Tech, Elias breaks down the systems running our world. Without the doom-scroll panic or influencer theatrics. In our conversation, we get into the machinery behind policy, big tech overreach. The ways regular people get swept up in systems they never signed up for.

We go deep into surveillance culture, digital dependence, and misinformation fatigue. The weird reality of living in a world where everything is connected; but nobody feels grounded. Elias doesn’t sugarcoat it he calls out the nonsense. Highlights the overlooked truths. Talks through what it takes to stay informed without losing yourself. It’s blunt, sharp, and exactly the kind of conversation that hits home for anyone tired of the noise.

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Dave: So,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you say now my, now my sarcastic started to pop up with these idiotic questions. But anyways.

Dave: so what, um, what year were you born? Mind me asking?

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Well, for those of you who's go to math, I normally don't reveal this info. So this is first 89 and I was that last,

Dave: Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know, this, this one. The sarcastic cars. Yeah. I am part of the sarcastic millennial. 'cause I do get sarcastic pretty easily. I said, oh, I mean really, really, uh, and, um, I, I think it's interesting about the blow, the whole blockbuster.

I mean, I clearly remember it. I was around, you know, but I would have to say the, definitely the Gen Zs around me remembered it because I kind of shove it down their throats as three year olds.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, and I'll age myself a bit further. Before that, it was video cassette tapes. So let's just add a little extra ageism into, into this thing. So

Dave: It's

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: listen, listen.

Dave: It's just, it

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: But

Dave: crazy how

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yes.

Dave: we've come, man, in like 30 years. It's not a small period of time. It's like a fraction of time compared to like 150 years ago.

Dave: was horrible.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: oh, dial up. So you cannot have a phone call while you're on the internet.

Dave: no.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: So appreciate what you have Youngsters.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah. And that's why a lot more scandals pop up too, because of just simply record, you know, those little hot mics, those interesting takes, which I enjoy hearing by the way. I, I'm sometimes petty, especially if I don't like the person. Oh, I knew it. I knew. Let, let's use, um, I normally don't, I love to use political example.

I'm gonna challenge with some this's, just a pop culture example. Did he, you know, the stuff he's, you know, he's done Yeah, I know. Which I, I find it preposterous, but

Dave: York.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: that's a hot topic. Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yep. Justice is for sale. And yeah. And you know, for those people who say that they're not wrong, um, justices Blinder comes to the morgue. Just give her enough greens to cover her stupid eyes. Here. Here you go. Oh. Make a mountain load. Okay. Okay. Nothing happened.

Dave: knew,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah, no, I, I, I agree. Yeah, go ahead.

Dave: happen. I mean, you take no offense, but you take a judge like her and you take a case like Diddy, of course she's going to try and get him acquitted. She's ha she has a dirty record to begin with. You know? It's like that, that's the, again, that's the amazing thing about the internet, is the fact that you have these quote unquote powerful people, that they think they're above everything.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yep. I just, all I could say is I hope that reputation damage does linger and may, hopefully it's permeated. That's what I could hope for at this point. Um, you know, it's, yeah, it, it's, it's horrendous. But I, I, I don't wanna talk about pop culture, which will be a big hypocrite. 'cause in my podcast I will not really talk about pop culture.

I know we talk politics as something of substance. Uh, but, you know, you know, the, we, we can even talk about how, you know, the, the, the whole, even the Trump thing with the convictions and all that. Um, you know, they, they, they do have some differences. Let, let's be real, but

Dave: no, I mean, it, it gets, it gets

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yes.

Dave: for example, for myself, like my dad

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Mm-hmm.

Dave: an immigrant, you know, my dad came from Morocco in

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Hmm.

I can speak on behalf of myself. I can speak on behalf of, you know, I have classmates that are, you know, leave Howard in South Florida, that, you know, they're from Haiti, they're from the Caribbean. They've came over here. Either they've worked for their family to get papers and things like that. I like this country is a place of immigrants, you know, like. We're all immigrants. You know, Italians, blacks, Asians, Hispanic. Like, I, I just, it's hard because, you know, you, you wanna be able to have an incredible future for yourself. You, you wanna give something back to your family, I think like this is one of the best places to do that for yourself, especially if you're trying to make it on your own and create something for yourself.

Uh, me, I'm, I'm registered independent, so I've been, you know, excommunicated from primaries. Real thing, by the way, people,

Dave: we kind of fall into the same, we fall into the same boat.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: no, I, you, you know, it's funny. Libertarians had such a bad impression of them at first. I just, oh, what are these kooky people all about? They're trying to be like left, left and right altogether. So what, what are y'all on? But after I got interviewed with some libertarian, which I'm happy I did, they actually opened my eyes on something.

So, you know, I can actually get behind some of the things they said. Sometimes they even more about freedom than even Republicans, which I gotta call them out on.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Ooh. Sounds like quite an anarchist right there, but,

Dave: A

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know, I don't, but I, but you know, I don't blame you. No, you, you, you know, you are valid. It, it is valid. I mean, they haven't done much, they haven't done much good. I mean, I mean, you know, who used atomic weapons? Uh, actually we did. The government did.

I was like, yeah, but hey, we don't, the thing is they're shady. They don't tell you everything. You'll find out some of the dirt when they're in office. And trust me, even back then, people have done this thing. I mean, let's go to, I'm just gonna go history local. Very good example, like Boss Twe. He, you know, boss Tweed was a very corrupt individual.

He knew his constituents were, um, this is when the massive Irish, Irish gracious 19th century stuff here. Long story short, he knows his constituents were illiterate. So of course he's gonna throw papers and documents 'cause he know his constituents can't reap until a cartoonist came. Start drawing the corruption as I exposed them.

And then there goes a downfall. It took pictures, the power of pictures to take him down because the people got to see, what was this guy all about? He thought was, oh, he's out for his Irish, his people and all that. No, he was a corrupt. He was a corrupt piece of shit. I'm says you're swearing. I think I'm allowed to swear as well.

I've.

It changes the way that people start seeing things. I think as a society today, we're a lot stronger than we were 200 years ago

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Hmm. Are we. I

Dave: in some aspects.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I,

Dave: Yeah.

I'm cynical. I, I'm one of the, you know, I'm not the diehard social media kind of person unless I used to just pure research and look at that asset. Oh, that's especially a stereotype. Strongly pin into the Gen Z as well. Oh, they're like social media addicts. They chase clout. I said, look, I know some of them do, but I also know plenty that are grounded.

They are sane. They're not mentally ill. They're not looking, you know, not chasing clout every second along the way and the end. Just to blame my, just attack my generation more, we, my generation, my generation to some extent continue that trend, or E even started. I don't know, maybe I'll say that. Gen X maybe start at that.

Dave: fight with, with Mike Tyson?

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh yeah. That guy. Yeah, that guy. And, you know, and, and, and he was promoting Prime when his girl was supposed to be pregnant. I mean, you took about cloud chasing the most tacky way possible. And, and, and promoting all that stuff, you know, and the fact that people keep supporting him. I criticized the supporters even more.

'cause you gave the green light for this man just to continue to do what he's doing. I said you can't expect a bright and apple to be fresh.

Dave: no,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You, you, you just can't, um, not that, not that I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a, you know, I'm a, I'm pre perfectly moral, but me compared to that, it's like, what the hell? I would know not to do that.

Dave: I'm

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I

Dave: I'm gonna

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Go ahead.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, oh, get into wrestling. Oh, that's when I used to be into, you know, not consider that. Eh, let, let, let, let, let the, let the, let people have fun with that, uh, you know, dub. E for me was so nice. You know, the if once the attitude era was done, I was done with it. I was like, ah, I don't think it's gonna get better after that.

'cause I liked the edginess and, you know, the, the, to some sick degree, I, I do enjoy controversy. Okay. Rocks the boat. It makes things exciting so people are pissed off, deal with it. I, and sometimes it ironically, it'll eventually make our society better 'cause it just exposes what a lot of people conditioned to and you know, and we normalize some bad behaviors.

'cause a lot of people do just 'cause the majority does. It doesn't make it right. You know, so this is when doing the right thing becomes even more difficult. 'cause we are social beings. So do I wanna fit in or I wanna stick to my principles?

Dave: I'm gonna stick to my principles.

Dave: either.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: sometimes I'm a, 'cause I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a pragmatist.

Um, so if I see a practical way to get it done, I'm gonna get it done. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not, not gonna, you know, support murderers and things like that. That's, that's that, that's clearly wrong. But I'm talking about like more, I'm talking like ethics kind of thing. You know, it's, oh, that's part unethical what you did.

Yeah, it probably is. But is there an easier way? And if, and if yes, why the hell you didn't tell me?

I don't have to rely on this constantly for money. You could call it selling out, but I like to call it like strategize plan that benefits you in the long run.

Uh, yeah. 'cause I enjoy the heck a lot about it. But I work, you know, I work at a employer. I'm not gonna say a name that goes against certain my values, but you know what? They paid decently well and I have a roof over my head and I could still do this to my side. And I'm now figuring out how to make profits off this podcast thing.

Dave: whole

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know, yeah, the whole, oh, you know, the, the virus I was supposed to be on Omega deadly. Uh, yeah, I'm gonna say like that. Um, 'cause I was very skeptical that one, I, I say I have more right.

Um, and then the people on the left were too strict with that. How do you find that fine balance? No, and that's why I got shun. I think temporarily. Lemme just say that. I don't wanna be too dramatic. Temporarily, I was shunned from both sides of the aisle because I was too liberal for Republicans and I was too conservative for Democrats as a veteran.

So I was okay, yes. Wow. I'm really right at the middle. I am isolated the middle, which to me, I normally will be upset, but I say, you know what? I know. I, this is, this is where I've been, this is E. Even these stupid political tests have got me wrong. They, they say, I'm a bit left. I'm a bit right. I'm a bit, whatever.

I said, I think these political quiz are kind of stupid, and they, they,

Dave: conquer and divide type of analogy.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: mm-hmm.

You know, being able to talk with different people, hearing their side, you know, for example, hearing the difference between. An analyst and a journalist compare to a medical doctor or a professional. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 'cause you get two really backbone strong ideas that you can create a really strong narrative and an idea of your own thought. This idea of like putting people in boxes. Personally, I think it's stupid. It really is. It's stupid.

I mean, that shouldn't even be partisan, but the fact that it is, is a little sickening.

Dave: it's true.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: anymore,

Dave: It's true.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know, but, but things like that, so, oh, oh, you're kind of like a green party person. I said, well then I guess I am. Oh, well I'm not gonna back, I'm not gonna change your mind and, you know, make you feel comfortable.

Um, you know, when it comes to abortion, I think I, the abortion thing, I leaned in the center, I said. Uh, there's gotta be certain limitations. I mean, if that child's ready to be born and healthy, then I can't support that that much. But that's, you know, but you know, people say, oh, how dare you as a man speak up on that issue?

I don't, I look, I don't care. I can speak up, but there's thing I'm, this one thing I'm not gonna do. I will not stop you

Dave: Yeah,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: because wherever choice you make to abort or not, that's a consequence you have to deal with,

Dave: A hundred

Oh, so you won't No, I said no. Her body or choice. I'm respecting that. I'm just being vocal. She might, she might not. She might like it or not. I don't know. Depends on the woman. I cannot judge him as a monolith either. 'cause that's also, that's inherently sexist,

Dave: It's finding,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: so I like it.

Dave: a balance.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah.

Dave: a, like,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah.

Dave: a balance. Look, I as a, as a gay

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yes.

Dave: that is masculine and definitely working in auto tech, like, I don't give like strong gay vibes as people stereotypically like to throw out there. And, you know, I don't conform to the whole pronoun, the whole pronoun thing.

Like, I am very respectful towards other people that are within the community. You know, I have two friends of mine that they do have the whole pronoun thing. respect them tremendously. We're very close, know, They don't get angry with me if I misgender, because you know, they're not, they're not what, that's not the whole purpose of our relationship.

Dave: That's okay.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: No attraction, nothing. And you know.

Dave: fine.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I, I'm aromantic all that I said, no, I just don't believe with romance, but, but if you got romance, good for you, just don't shove it down my throat because I'm perfectly fine living alone.

I have enough. I'm not a lonely person. I go to the communities and all that. I do just fine. I'm a productive person. Do I need a person to live with me? To be honest, I don't, and I prefer it that way because I know I could be a difficult ass on some things. And you know what? I ain't changing it. I'm just not going to change it.

Uh, you know, unless you help me out and then I'll ease up. But, but if you just gonna do, I'm gonna quote for Larry Elder, BMW Bitch Moaning Wine. I love that take. I took it from him. I'm, I don't care. I don't care about your opinion. Yeah. Then, then I'm gonna turn to authoritarian. Dick, I don't care about your opinion.

Dave: me?

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: ain't gonna lie. Yeah. Oh, that's, ah, oh, oh. The whole whole woke thing. Oh, even get me star people thought I was gonna write for a second because the woke thing it said, it said, oh. Do you have any gay friends?

Uh, actually I do. Um, two, or, yeah, I do actually. So the fact that you're gonna try to leave me as a homophobe, good luck. Good luck. You dumb piece of shit. And I want you to do that. No, double down. Double down. Now I look, I'm, look, I'm new. I'm in the, I'm in the big apple. Okay. And this is my attitude, my street attitude popping right over, right.

So, come on, dude.

Dave: cha,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: So wait, this is the New York?

Dave: York, right over

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: New York. Right there. Go New York. Ever. So, yeah. Take that, Callie. There you go.

Dave: Motherfuckers go back

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: No.

Dave: Gavin Newsom and suck a goddamn dick in your

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh,

Dave: tents with those goddamn

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: oh,

Dave: A but,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: oh,

Dave: you know

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: man. I can, I,

Dave: I, to your

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah.

People we're just a little rough around the edges. Like, we'll tell you to like stop being a lazy piece of shit. just us. That's what we do. don't think there's anything wrong with that. Like I think it's kind of nuts that people are like, oh, they're so bad. Okay, sure.

Yeah. 'cause I was at that tail end of, of millennials that had, you know, a bit of a rough edge, you know, compared to the more nineties one. I gotta say they're, some of them, I could say some of them not all. 'cause some of 'em could keep up with, with, with the eighties one. So I'm not gonna make this a whole monolithic generational argument.

Some could keep up and some are sensitive as hell. I, I just gotta say, is that not, oh, no, no, no. You're not gonna tell me how to talk little bro. I've been in this world much longer than you. You're not gonna tell me how to talk. Fuck that. Fuck that shit. Was your mother and father that week? Yes. I will go there to, to make you think you could just be entitled.

I choose not to make it my lifestyle. Can depression be conquered? Of course you can. You know, I don't care what the medical terminology all the other research have said. Um, I only had it for two years and that was during high school. Worst time of my life actually. Not me being college, not me, me, me in my thirties, even though life is generally harder, I'm a lot more happier and a lot more resilient.

You need to develop resilience and this not just in politics but in just in life in general because you are going to deal with people who's gonna come outta left field. Not even just rough around the edges, that's mild, but people who are just gonna come at hostile just 'cause they just got a fraction of the picture while they think they got the whole thing.

I have to, uh, you know, I, that's why, that's why I call my myself. No, I'm not gonna be one of those. Say, oh, well you built my net tab. I said, you wanna bring, bring it on, motherfucker. Oh, you're bring my latch on now. Yeah, now you just o now I, I don't even, I won't even say anything. You're next. I'm gonna say you're next.

And then the whole, then the whole thing goes wild. Look, it's not that I don't, I don't like to be projected like a, I'm a, I'm a tough guy or anything, but I, to be honest, fighting's my last resort. But if I see there's absolutely no other option.

Dave: I know.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Then that's, that's when I, that's why I throw hands and that, that, you know, that's why I, I can make it a lot longer, but I think that makes it concise and you get all the, the, the general points.

So, yeah. So this is New York.

Life is gonna throw at you.

Dave: Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I mean, you, it is a choice. What hard do you want? Feeling sorry for yourself. Going downhill slowly, or you'd rather just go through challenges while you might have a chance. I'm not gonna say it's guaranteed. It's definitely not. It's a low probability of having financial abundance, but it's a better shot if you go through the challenges as opposed to just feeling sorry for yourself.

And doom. Scroll through social media

Dave: Yeah, I,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: just saying.

You know, for example, we're podcasters, you know, and you wanna be able to give yourself that opportunity where we are social creatures, are human beings that need to have some sense of a community. If you just constantly stay comfortable in that couch and don't try to explore, maybe try something difficult, like working in a dealership like BMW in New York City, like for example, for me it's a little easy 'cause I'm from New York.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yep. 'cause the me itself is guaranteed failure. I'm just gonna be brutally honest or best case scenario. This is absolute best case scenario. Stagnation. Stagnation from where you're at. Um, if I'm gonna be more precise about it, uh, it, it's just, yeah, but the, you know, of, you know, and I, the only thing I wanna just pick about, just real quick, if you don't mind, like immigrants, you know, and this is just put in my political hat.

Let's forgive them. Um, 'cause we, we caused some of that mess. By the way, if you look at our, Jill,

Dave: They're not there. There's a lot

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah.

Dave: a lot of immigrants that are in this country that are very hard workers. They're, you know, they're in a lot of different industries and they're not trying to take advantage of people. I promise you. They're not. They're just trying to do what everybody else is trying to do.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: And lemme just go 180 for a second. And those that are, are few and far between. There are gangs and things like that. And that's the only, only point I will agree with. Right-wing clamped down on those people. But that's not the, again, the vast majority of migrants, you know? And that, that, I'm just gonna be honest, and I even helped on the side, not even as a podcaster or as an office manager in a very political place, how to get their life together.

Yeah, it's, it's different. So if I was in, let's flip it for a second. If I was in your country, they would think I'm a weird person too, so don't worry about it. You are smart. I understand you. Even with the Bangladeshi accent. I understand. You just fine. I mean, we have good conversations on that. And look, I've studied some, I've studied some things in your country, you're, you know, sad, like lot poor countries, developing nations.

You got a very corrupt government. I don't care about its people. I get that. But that, you know, that, you know, but you, the people, you forget your crazy government, for example. Just like you said, I love the frame of that. Yeah. I make that country. Yeah. You are wonderful people. You make Bangladeshi culture rich.

I said, you, you are a smart man. Stop. I, I I had to be tough to stop downing yourself. Normally I'll just say, get, get your act together. No, no, no. Stop being such a punk ass. Such a woosie ass. No, this wasn't Stop, stop. You're insulting yourself. You know what you're doing. I, we are talking just fine. Right? I never said, uh, can you repeat that again?

Uh, I I, I, I know, I know. Speak English. You know, there was none of that weird stuff happening. No. It, it was a, it was fluid conversation. He had a Bangladeshi accident, but it wasn't super thick to the point that it obstructed communication.

Dave: no,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: It was easy flowing. So a a lot of 'em are, they do add, they do add value to this country.

We are, we're probably like 1.4, 1.5, I forget the exact number. We are definitely less than two. 'cause two, it's, it is the perfect replacement rate. We like got 1.4, 1.5. I forget the exact numbers, but if you average it out, it's, it's around there that we are not making enough babies. Okay. America, just American born people.

Dave: they,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: of the time and their reservations and they're the most invisible minority.

I've talked about them several times and

Dave: I've

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: And it just, I mean, we may not be able to relate in the most obvious ways, but I think just listening just gave, grants you that exposure. I mean, don't knock yourself down entirely. You know it Grant, you know, it gave you the opportunity just to hear that. 'cause I guarantee right now, 99.99% of Americans are not gonna get that story.

Let's be absolutely clear. You got a diamond, like a rarity. It was like diamond rarity of a story. Okay? Not, oh, oh, I'm just some hot chick. I banged up some dude in the casino. That's more of a normal story, you know, than what just happened, which is very unfortunate. Tragic. But there is, uh, but there is a positive to that.

Okay. And, and, you know, no, it's, look, look, I can understand if you're attacking something like CNN for being too left, I understand that. 'cause they are, don't get me wrong, the Abby, I think the de network with Abbey Phillips is register. Yeah.

Like they're not bad people. You know, they're, they're trying to get back like everybody else. They don't necessarily know any better. You're just taking advantage of people for no reason. For what? For clouts, for money.

Um, but yeah, no, I hate people that use independent and yet you're very partisan. Stop using that label. Just it's okay to be partisan. Just own up to it. Just tell what, what you want. If you want anti-Trump stories, fine. You go to this person, you want pro-Trump stories, you go to that person just. Just be trans, just like what, what CNN said they were fair.

I was like, ha ha, ha, ha, ha. See, that's, I see. Lost credibility. Fair. No, but you do provide some left narratives and you should just market it yourself like that. Then you would've got more credibility. But, but you can't, but they can't even do that. And you know, and then of course, you know, we got the right wing version.

But Yeah. But go ahead. Yeah.

Dave: appreciate that. Like, again, this is one of the reasons why we're having conversations. It's good to have that expertise and having that different of perspectives because it really allows you to be able to see honestly, what is actually going on. You know, not just what is being fed like spoon fed to you. know, I'll tell you this, right? I had already a few conversations with family members. I'm not gonna mention who, where, when I mentioned this idea of going back to New York, they, oh, boy, they, you're going back there with the election. Uh, what are you gonna do? Oh my goodness. Like the city's gonna become even more unsafe.

My dad had no work for two years straight, and we had the whole entire community, everybody had to come together to figure out a way of being able to survive because people were losing their homes, they were getting foreclosed. Using fear-mongering tactics on people. Come on, come on. Could do better

They'll probably, they'll believe me and say, oh, I don't want to go there. They got nothing to challenge it unless they see movies and let's be real movie's. Not a good source of information.

Dave: come on, a lot of them are very inaccurately. Most New Yorkers, by the way, real New Yorkers do not live in Manhattan. Most real New Yorkers. Some like this idea of like, even like the Anne Hathaway of stories, it's it like, it feels like disrespectful towards actual New Yorkers.

We don't, we don't live like that. Most people don't live like that. Even outside of the city or in the city?

But look, if you want to go there, I'm not gonna stop you. I'm not your father. What the, what do I care? You make your choice at the end of the day, but I'm just giving you my perspective and some of the facts about New York. Um, I just hope you're ready for fast pace because no offense, you ain't moving that fast.

Honey. New Yorkers will run you over by, by accident if they're in a good mood.

Dave: throw a

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: And asks if they're the good.

Dave: If you're, if

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah. That

Dave: into them. Yeah. That, that happens. That's real.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: so, so sweetie, Ms. Miss Georgia, you need to pick up the pace quickly, especially once you landed there. You better know. 'cause I purposely walk slow and that's a great way to piss them. That's a great way to start. Trouble going slow. Being intentionally up, intentionally obstructive. All right. And, you know, and oh no, that's a great way and, and, and you know what?

Got somewhere to go. What the fuck? This is not Sunday morning. People, some people look to pe, some people laughed and some people look at me like I was a manager. You know, you can get all kinds of reactions. It's New York. We are, where, where are that complicated. But I, I didn't care. I just studied the reactions later on a, after I calmed down.

Um, and after that idiot decided to, you know, wake up and, and you know, and smell the sewage of New York, you know, of New York City. Yes. Sewage, not the coffee. Any urine.

Dave: important smell of New York. Okay, about that urine. It's not New York City.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah. Let's just be clear. I'm just gonna say New York City. 'cause up upstate, I'm in to some town there. It's a very, it's a different experience. I.

And then they all of a sudden, like, we just stopped talking. We're just waiting for the elevator. And they were just like, Jesus is not real. We just went into the elevator and Shane looks at me and they're like, I don't think they're coming into this elevator. Like before the doors even closed.

I'm kidding. No. Yeah. No, no.

I'm just gonna say this would be a little nice. However, you know, being nice is not the best way to go. And that's the thing that I just don't think the self is gonna get because it's so culturally ingrained and some of 'em are phony, by the way.

Dave: are. A lot of them are,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: So, so, I mean, you know, I'm not gonna say they're, you know, they're, trust me.

Dave: in South Florida. I would say it, it's more common than you would think, but yeah, there are, I hundred percent agree with you. There are places in the south that are not like that at all. They really are like genuine, really caring and warm people. But to your point, like there is that caveat that does exist.

Sorry,

Dave: make it a little more kosher.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, that, that, no. Uh, to your point, no. Being nice. All time is just a recipe for disaster. You invite disaster back, stab, taking advantage of whatever you wanna call it.

It will happen to you. 'cause and then someone had to explain this to me. This is why I watch some tough business. People say No, 'cause if you be nice, you subconsciously giving these other people permission to disrespect me. They see you as weak. They see you as gullible. They see you as vulnerable. I was like, ah.

I said, no wonder I've kind of, that's why no wonder when I introduce myself, I, I test people right off the bat. Sometimes I come on the most fd up morbid introduction just to get fakers away from me. And it works 95% of the time effectively on first tribe. I just say the most effed up things. Oh, what about you?

Dave: Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Straight face, perfect delivery. I said, wow, you're cold. I mean, yeah, she lived her life. I mean, what the hell you want me to say?

Uh, you know, and then people started figuring I was trolling. I was be just an asshole. And there was people that believed it. Right away I was like, good. I don't want you 'cause I don't want sensitive people in my life. This is what I do, you know, host exposed right there from politically high tech. But I will do things just to see if you are, if, if you could, if you could take me face value, you're a sensitive, dumb bitch, or you are either tough enough to see even put up with that morbid.

Esade I put, or being super troll or toxic to say, oh, no, no, no, I just think he's on. Mm. Some people, one person has it. No, I just think he's just doing that. But everybody else pick, fell for ride, said, good. I don't care about you. I don't care about you. I don't care about you. I don't care about you. I don't care about you.

Everybody else are. Everybody else, they're out. They out already. They're eliminated. They're eliminated. They're eliminated. So that's how I'm, that's how I've been good at picking. First I put this weird unorthodox strategy, and I even picked up for some of the grades too. Like um, one of my older brothers, I said, you know how you catch a snitch?

You gave the most unique lie only to that snitch. If you see that spread around, you know who the snitch is. It works. These are some of the street tactics. The it works people. Oh, but, but what about, no, no matter what, but I'm a, I'm a Christian too. But sometimes you gotta be tactical.

Dave: Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You gotta be tactical.

And that's the thing. I argue with him a lot. I said, but you give these people too many chances, man. But alright, all right, fine. I'll give you chances. I said, okay, okay. I, there's like this little internal dialogue. It's weird as out, but you know, but.

Dave: it, it's, it's true. It's being able to look like I, I said this earlier, like two of my closest friends that I have in New York. We have very differences in politics. We think very differently, because of our upbringing and our backgrounds, we have a lot of things in common. You know, I have somebody else that I'm really close with.

I'm like, no, they're, they're being who they are. They show up. They do what they have to, it's two ways. Right. Especially in relationships, regardless. Romantic or non-romantic. Just relationships in general. It works two ways. You respect me. I respect you. You understand me? I understand you. That's it.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You know what I, no argument from, for me. Um, I don't know about the, the psychopaths. I want to argue this. Um, but hey, you know, you're welcome to, I guess I'm pretty sure you're one a, um, based on getting to know you a bit. Uh, my, my sha is one A as I could be, but you two will cancel you. Not rumble, rumble.

No, I don't. Uh, I, I don't agree with it. I believe ugliness should expose, you know, ugliness should be shown. People should see what ugly is. People should see what despicable, vicious examples of humanity are canceling them. You know, they could just manipulate some of the people on the right and certain on the left, more on the right based on, but I gather they have, turn this around and say, look, I'm a victim.

Leave it there.

Dave: No.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You wanna prove that this person is racist, or whatever other term you want to throw. Show, you know, the cool kids show the receipts, you know, and then of course for the traditional people, that's proof the video's proof right there, you know, and that's why I'm against, I'm against cancer coaches, but you can't, um, enforce company.

You know, companies are gonna do whatever. Um, I get that. And just don't work for company that don't, you know, after a while you should try and I do ever since Word, try, try to work with a company that aligns more with your personal values. And I do say try. 'cause I'm not saying it's easy, you know, but if you wanna be pragmatic, just put up with, you know, the job that pays you will give you good benefits, but you're miserable.

Yeah. I could yammer out for, I could ya, I could yap for a long time. I could. Yap.

Dave: honestly, you, you touched on something that, that's really true. And like, even what I mentioned earlier, and again, I'm not, I'm not trying to give anybody, but unfortunately Republicans in the past couple of years, they have given Libertarians a very bad name because a lot of them, especially here in South Florida, they run around and call themselves libertarian.

Jump to ping pong, different topics, but they all have some value and wisdom. If you're paying attention, of course. Um, that I cannot judge. I wish I could, I wish I could just get your personal data, say, oh, this will only pay attention to what they have to say. Or, well, I have to say, oh, this. Only pay attention to the negative parts and just clip it and just say, oh, these people are neo fascism.

Whatever other slander you wanna throw in there, and.

Of course, I'm white too. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm a multiracial person, but if I'm a white supremacist, that okay, I, you are right.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Uh, try to tell that to an idiot. He is gonna look at you. Oh, okay. Uh, well, Dave looks white, so Yeah. Yeah, he, yeah, he has, he has white privilege. Oh, he got a comfortable life because he's white. I mean, that's racist. I mean, you wanna fight racism. If you wanna fight racism with poor racism, you do that on your own.

You know, nominations. Oh, okay. You know what? I, I'm an independent. Fuck this. Fuck both of you. I, I gave y'all both. I've always been a moderate Democrat. Even I was, even when I was, um, 18, when I was first able to vote. 'cause I said, oh, you progressive, right? I said, what? 'cause you, what? 'cause I look young to you.

Um, you know, I do believe in some traditional stuff. You know, there's reason why these traditions last for a long time. I was like, oh, okay. I was like, oh, okay. Um, I, I forgot what, what, what, what this person said, but it was something stupid. I said, okay. Okay. So you wanna try to act older? I got it ain't by acting older.

I don't care if it's a right. I don't care if I sound right wing to you. They use Latinx mostly. Just throw that term out. Good. On a Latino community president, that's such a stupid term because they're trying to create like a more, like a gender neutral. So no, it doesn't, it's not compatible. You trying to put wood in a metal set.

It doesn't make sense.

Dave: there. There's.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You know, all these terms, you know, like white supremacist, you know, I, I was even called, I said, listen, I said if I get tan, I could get tan easily. I could look like I came from a even a, you know, a nation where there's a lot of dark skinned people. It doesn't always have to be Africa people, you're racist if you think that, you know, those Caribbean countries have a lot of dark skinned people too.

Oh, and even America. Yeah, Haiti. Yeah,

Dave: you have

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah,

Dave: Tobago, Barbados is a

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah.

Dave: of this.

There is even dark skin, Asian and Latinos that have lived in privilege too. It's not always white.

Dave: York, uh, Koreans.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah.

Dave: they run dry cleaners and nail salons like it's nobody's business. And guess what? You, if I work in BMW, guaranteed, they own a lot of those BMWs coming in for service. I'm not giving any discredit, like they're really hardworking and wonderful people.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah, I will, I will definitely say that. Um, even though I, I feel a little ashamed, but it's actually the truth.

Dave: yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: but they, they, they are just, they come with this relentless work ethic ambition to get it done. They feel like they gotta prove it to themselves and you know, they just say, look, this is a great opportunity.

Go for it. That's what's keep that drive going. You know, people born in America say, oh, I gotta figure out what I want. Then I go for it. So we kind of, you know, to some extent America's a bit more passive, you know, that that's been, that's been, you know, the, the, the downfall. I mean, I, I, it even me to some extent was, well, you know, there was times I was just, ah, no, eh, I'll do that tomorrow.

I ain't gonna go there. The majority, the big generations are the millennials, gen Zs. We are the ones that gotta pick up the pace. Okay. And I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna go Whoopi Goldberg say, you, you gotta work harder. I get, it's tough,

Dave: Work

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: but this can, yeah. You know, you know, I actually like that one better.

Just find your ways, you use your strengths. You gotta utilize your strengths. 'cause some people could work like oxs and some people work as intelligence. Ours. Okay. Just, just find your strengths, utilize them, and just. Go through, know who your strengths are. You're not a worthless person. You matter, even though I disagree with you, you do not think you're a crybaby, but I will not call you a worthless person.

I just disagree with your personality and who you are. More of a personality clash. I don't use a human being. Some of you might not believe that least is compensation, but I actually did. Well, you know, I care in a very unconventional way. Sometimes I don't show emotions, um, because I've been trained to be harder.

And I think that's the, that's, that's the, and that's the part I think I kind of regret picking up. Yeah,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah.

Dave: Like it's, it's gonna be very hard to get that out.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I will definitely have to move to a different state. Maybe. Maybe Georgia will undo some of it, but it don't. Then again. But then again, there's a saying you could, you could take the personality New York or you could never take the New York out of them. So I think that's true. 'cause even in West Virginia, I was there for two weeks.

I was as New York as I could be. I was too loud. I scared half the people that, Ooh, it was what I said. I said, how you doing? How you doing? I didn't realize how loud I was, you know? But New York is so common, you know, you get so deens tests, they that, that's normal. But freaking West Virginia, every time I say, say something like, hello, whatever, they, they jumped up.

But that, it's like finding a rare Pokemon. I mean, we'll use some Pokemon know, uh, how rare a minority is in West Virginia. Yeah. West Virginia is a good state for that. Oh. Actually found, you know, I found a black person. Yeah. That's a rare, uh,

Dave: 'em up on the

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know.

Dave: right. Going

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah, yeah,

Dave: five, go

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah,

Dave: twice.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah. You know, and I think I said some little crazy with the Fed West Virginians, but I think just, but you know, I,

Dave: real, real, it's

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: ah, yeah.

You know, this is all, 'cause you know, new Yorkers, they like poli political jokes. Like that's kind of, that's like a number one thing, you know? We are always making political jokes. It doesn't always exist everywhere. You know, you, you have, even like in Virginia where the, these are these tight knit, sometimes very Christian communities, don't say certain things.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, you know, I like a, I love a good political joke and South Park, just keep up the great work right away. Uh,

Dave: bin La like can't do any moral Osama bin Laden jokes. Those are all dead, but, uh, they, they were good when they were

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: they were good when they were lasting. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, for, oh, for sure.

Dave: Sadam Hussein ones, you know, sleeping with the devil. Aw, I have those on

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah.

Dave: on YouTube. Come on, man. What keeps me going?

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: No, I mean, look, I mean South Park. I think if I ever do another, when I, when I do another podcast, it's probably, it's probably will be based on South Park. That's what I could just talk about for, uh, nausea. Maybe to the point that people just get tired of me talking about South Park because, you know, it's funny, I was never a major South Park fan.

I said, you know what, that actually, I vibe with that more than family guy. That was just, you know, left-leaning random jokes, some hit or miss. I used to be a big family guy for bad, but you know, south Park one, especially when they B family guy, it's like, you know what you want Me as a fans family guy lost because they never, they, they never got back at them.

Um, which that's a big L for them.

Dave: CVS, I think CVS recently purchased South Park like something crazy, like $1.4 billion and I'm just like,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: uh.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: But one can say they're evolving. They're evolving.

Dave: You mean like pride month where everybody starts having rainbow flags?

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, I, I really don't give a shit about CBS. Um, if I'm gonna be honest, if they go downhill, I'm look. South Park. You'll be fine without them. Uh, not Nira, just them. Um, if a lot of these mainstream, um, channels go downhill, um, CNNI don't know. Yeah, they are. And, but when they're. Pull the plug, you know, when they're dead, so to speak.

He's really brilliant and sometimes he's stupid at some of his takes. Especially like geopolitically. I think he got horrible, immature, childish takes. Oh we the weird we the Europeans, Ukraine Air, the Good Guys. No,

Dave: to the

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I go right. Yeah.

Dave: I, I, I, I want, he has somebody that came on from the automotive industry a while, I think a couple of months ago, I'm just, I, I'm sitting there and I'm like, Pierce, can you please shut up? Just let let the expert speak. just let him talk.

Let him finish. It's just interruption into, he doesn't understand anything about the industry, you know, and like it's,

I mean, some of the comments are saying, Pierre, shut up. I want to hear what the experts have to say. I can hear you in a lot of these other episodes. Like, thank you. You're a very base commentator based. Thank you. Yes. I'm using cool terminology. I caught up with a, I think I matched like 70% of the Gen Z term terminology.

And this is just for me, just to freak them out when I pick, just to scare them more. I said, oh no, he knows what you're talking about. Uh, yeah, but the only thing you could keep for sure is skip D toilet. I want nothing to do with that. You keep that crap. That's Gen Z. That's super Gen Z.

Dave: there. There's some terms and

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: a.

I'm like, oh, I really just wasted 10 minutes figuring that out. Okay. It's beautiful.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yep. And, and you know what? It is non-refundable. That's the best part. Right?

Dave: Non Revertible

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: So, you know, that's, that's the most fucked thing about time. Once this place, it, it just wasted. That's why I get more mad at wasting time even more than. Money if you finally make more, yeah, you can recover, but time is just, fuck, I can't get those minutes back. Oh, well what do I do? You know? So it, I that, that, I think that's why I get really upset easily.

I try to be respectful of my time and the other people, you know, other people's time

Dave: I.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I try to be, you know, and you gotta, you wanna, has to be respect for that. But, you know, since we like to use this weapon of mass distraction, I'm taking that from somebody, you know, we, we lose track, track of time and people, you know, I, it, it's funny, we got better communication tools, but our communication skills went downhill.

Ain't that ironic. Because we used to outsource everything through the damn phone. I mean, I could go, I could ran, I could rant about internet and all that for a long time and sound like an angry nerd. But, um, you know, I think the best thing I don't feel bad about, 'cause people find comedy ironically out of it 'cause it's truthful and, you know, and sometimes hits too close to home.

I don't want wide open border. I just want, I want a smart, smart border. Yeah.

Dave: surprised about how many podcasts, like how many times I've had interviews with people. I'm not gonna give any names. And we bring up the conversation, immigration, and they get, they've gotten very hostile with me because they think that I'm this some privileged individual and don't even bother to ask about the fact of how my dad struggled coming to this country.

We both have our own stories, we have our both our own experiences, and important to raise awareness about these things. Because it, it matters to us. It matters to people around us that we surround ourselves with on a day-to-day basis. I'm not trying to, you know, shut anybody down.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: No. Well, I, I probably gonna attempt to do that.

Dave: Oh,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: If you can't have a conversation, just shut the fuck up. Just don't go to your fucking corner because we don't need you for No, and it is not just for those who are super pro immigrant, you know, far lefty losers. This is for the far right that wanna close off the board too.

Have you forgotten that? You know, somewhere along the lines, someone migrated here. So even someone who was born here could give you indirect. Secondhand secondhand accounts. I would say probably more in your case, secondhand account. 'cause even though you didn't have the whole immigrant, you know, perfect experience according to these lefties.

Dave: that shit, not me. Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: So, so that, so you see, if they were real genuine about their goal, you should have aimed, you should have talked to you, talk to your, to, to your father about that experience. If they were really genuine to learn what the hell he had to go through, just, uh, you know, become legal in America, what struggles he has to go through and what are their successes.

He was very graceful in dealing my, I don't, I normally not skeptical right away, but he just talk, he's trying to teach Bronx kids about non-romantic love through a die. I said, look, this is the Bronx here. We used to tough people. You think this is gonna work? I came with skepticism and even, even bashing idea, not him as a person, I, I was bashing idea.

Okay.

Dave: immigrant

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You know, you talking about.

Dave: immigrant borough. I mean, I, I,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Right. As of Yeah,

Dave: I moved back, like, I wanna move to the Bronx, you know, and the, the sense of the, the, the sense of the fact of this is where, that is the last place you want to start dissing immigrants. That is the last place you want to get into because you got some really hardworking individuals.

You have Puerto Ricans that have been there for generations. are some of the most wonderful, some of the most incredible people you'll ever meet. Like, you don't wanna mess. I promise you, you don't want, that's the one borough you do not wanna mess with. Hell no.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah, yeah. No. Yeah. And you know, Spanish is a very big part of the Bronx because for obvious, you know, and not just, uh, the Puerto Ricans, uh, Dominicans and endurance those salvadors, you know, you could fill in the black

Dave: not

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Haitians. Yeah. Yep.

Dave: Jamaican.

Yeah. A little bit. I sprinkle you're not wrong. You know, I sprinkle them, you know, Jamaicans. Yes. Um, recently I'll be,

Dave: area. You got more, got more like a Jamaican

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah. And, you know, um, yeah. Yeah. It's a very, um, immigrant, immigrant oriented kind of place and I don't know, I think the only picture you kind of get away with that is Staten Island, not the bad shoe.

'cause you have more, you know, you got,

Dave: more money.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah. And y'all tend to be, quote unquote, I'm gonna put this in quotes. Real America, you know, that's the right wing propaganda right there. Pearl America.

Dave: a fucking ferry wherever you want to go.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: I mean, you know, some, you know, some people make this constant joke that, you know, oh no stand island, this part of New Jersey we got, Jersey City's the fifth borough, which is so, it's so fucked up, but it's hilarious and I love it.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: The, oh, yeah, that, that, oh, that. Yeah, that's, yeah. Island. Yeah. I mean the, the state is sta stai is so hot, so high. I'm gonna use the, the cool term. You know, we, we will cope, use opium just to try to include Jersey City's the fifth borough. It's hilarious. We all know geographically, if you have a brain function of your brain, of course, that it's part of New Jersey people not, not, you know, not part of New York.

Even though it's very convenient to get there, it's even easy to get there. To stand island though.

Dave: of, you just hop on the path train and you're right there. But that,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah.

There's all different types of stories. Not every single immigrant in New York has the same, same, you know, journey. They don't have the same anything, like everybody's has their own d You know what? Kudos to the people that are able to live in the Upper West Side. Like, I have nothing wrong with people that you know, have money and they're able, good for you.

I'm happy for you. I'm happy that you're able to be successful and be able to live really well in New York. You know, why criticize those people? You know what, maybe people really worked really hard to get there. You know, like they're not all horrible people. I met some really amazing people in the Upper East Side.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah. That why I bash I caught out more on the left, especially the progressive wings of that. 'cause they seem to have a, such a disdain for people who are successful, which I disagree with. And no,

Dave: it?

So I don't mind, I, I see 'em as a human being and believe it or not, um, this is gonna be a new flash for those of you who think all rich, we just got it very easy. They got their own freaking struggles. Okay? They, you know, and I've talked after, you know, I've talked to some of them who are, you know, a few of them that lives in, you know, Morningside Heights and all that.

I, you know, that's money area and, you know, it's, it was a nice area. Um, I did sat there for a part. 'cause I think, um, I do, I am part of two political organizations, one that focuses national, local, the only focus on state. Um, state and local and just be real brief. Um, braver angels I think is a good organization.

Just try to get people to talk from different political orientations and all that. Yeah, they, they, yeah, they, yeah, they all over it. They each, I'm, yeah. Some states have more chapters than others. Yeah. It's a, it it's a big one. I Florida they got their own, um,

Dave: even

Dave: It's too

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: oh yeah, no, no.

I,

Dave: It's too complicated.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know, I think, I think the, the fight is between the modern Republicans and the back Republicans. That's where the fight's at over there. But, uh, yeah, no, I'll just, I'll just say like for the New Yorkers, well, the moderate Democrats versus the progressive Democrats, that's where the big fights at the intra 10 fights, which are, I would say very interesting to say.

At least some of, some of it's just laughable. But yeah, I, I would say, you know, that's something that I, this is something I would never, I don't believe in force talking people, you know, all I could say is. Check it out if you want. Then you don't, you don't, you know, you, you got your reasons why you want to or not, or I'm not gonna question you.

Who, who the hell am I As a private investigator, I don't care that much. I really don't. I just say, look, if, if you're looking for something like that, if it fits in your personal agenda, then you just go for it. If not, then no. Well then if the other one adds very state oriented, unite and why, I mean, duh.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh no. Well, uh, lemme just drink the podcast Kool-Aid, so you're absolutely right. No, but seriously, you're right though. You're right though I not make it to a cult thing. 'cause Well, now, oh no, these podcasts are cults. No, no. Mag as a cult. The progressives are a cult. Okay. They cults. Not, not us podcasters. I mean some of us, you going to, you know, it's even, okay.

And this is why I always push and I always got screaming as verbatim disagreement. Having different opinions does not equal hate or an attack, but people just don't know how to have to, and I have counter different opinions, people that challenge my ideas and sometimes they want me over because there was blind spots.

So she just make me a little more convincing than left. Oh no, Dave's attacking me 'cause of his whiteness. He think he's better than me. And all that said, no, no, no, no. And you know, I, I love how people try to speak me with race. No, no. If you had to put. Latino people, migrants as a monolith. There's something clearly wrong with you.

You're either intellectually lazy and that's the best, best mildest insult I could give. Or you are really prejudice, you're really Euro xenophobic. Um, and you know, I, I don't, I don't rarely use those terms, but if you really push me to move there yeah. Close-minded, bigot, those kind of terms, I'd rather use those.

But if I'm pushed there, then yeah, that means it, it, it's getting, it's getting nowhere. And, you know, and I, I've been questioned, so, oh, are you homo? Are you homophobic? You know, one podcast asked me that. I could have chose to be offended, all that, but I just said, good question. I could see where you're coming from.

Dave: You, you, you expect to walk into some of these interviews and expect it to be roses and daisies. You're in the

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: no out.

Dave: This is not the place I, you'd

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Mm.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Why so fucking entitled. That's another wife. You see, I can't stand and I'll bash left and the right for that. No, no, no, no, no. I have, I have pushed back on the right. On some, I pushed back on the left or something. I'm a fucking, I'm an independent. I'm gonna tell you straight. If you can't handle me, just let me know.

I will be, I'll be happy to Cut, cut it off and I'll, and, and you know what, for those people who are babies, and you know, I think I'm gonna have people sign the thing. If you sign the thing, if you're a baby, I will expose you because you need to be accountable for your childish bullshit that you just pulled out.

I'm, I'm gonna start having some guests even.

Dave: colors.

It, it's complete.

Dave: It is.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Okay. And I, no, I, I, I have zero respect. People on the right has done it. People on the left has done it. Even a few in the center, they have done it. No, I, I don't respect you. I, I don't even, even, some hosts have cut it short. And the best one I could say is News Nation. And I got criticized Leland Vard, where he, when he cut off the interview short with a Democrat operative.

I didn't, I didn't agree with his frame either, said, oh, this right wing, um, news, no, it's, it's centered. Shut the fuck up. Leland v Villard was not even ready for that interview. And he just cut it short and all that. No, no, no, no, no. Just,

Dave: Go

No, but he just cut out 'cause he just. Refuses just to pivot. You just, you just wanna be stuck and close minded and be stiff thick about it. I said no. I criticize both parties on that one. Leaving Villa, I think he leads a little more to right think he's like center, right? His politics, let's be clear. Be, you know, they got the left and right.

Represent, I would say decently well in News Nation. And that's, uh, you know, in the hill, those are the most centrist sources that we got. But even they got their biases. Let's be clear. Um, Cuomo still pretty left. Bill O'Reilly, you already know where he's at politically. Uh, Stephen A. Smith. I would say he's the most politically scattered.

Sometimes he sign, he is on, on, right, left. He's a wild card. I like, I kind of like those. I ain't gonna lie.

Dave: It's like

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: those. That's a, that's an interesting,

Dave: I love that car. Whenever you get it in Uno, it's

Even though his analysis is he's all over the place. He sometimes, you know, seems like he's agree with the right, the senator. So stop his progressive. This is America. This is not gonna work. You know, it's crazy talk. He, he, he's entertaining to say the least. I gotta give him that. I don't agree him everything, but he is entertaining Stephen A.

Smith. And I like it when him, Cuomo and Bill Rod get, it's very entertaining. These three, these three grown, these three men are attacking each other. All that. I love it. I love it. I, it's good television folks. They, they don't know me. I'm not getting paid to promote this, but I'll say some good stuff. You know, especially if you want to just extract the comedy out of this hyperbolic times that we are in, these are hostile times that we, we could find some joy in it.

That's the only reason why I'm bringing that up. And these are people with different, you know, political orientations. So I think I talk more than enough, unless you want

Dave: you,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: pull me through.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Ah, well, there you go. Finally, the shameless plugin. And my podcast always push, I always push shameless plugins. I'm, you know, I, I, I am a capitalist. You know, I'm a capitalist people. I'm not gonna be a socialist. Um, you know, oh, well, I will agree with certain social list features, especially those who need it.

Let's be clear, like want basic wants and needs, you know, housing, order, food, all that other stuff. But if you want a socialist, get, get your mansion. I will proudly say, fuck you, you'll never get me. You know, you, you'll never convince me to do that otherwise. But, alright, let me, you see, I, I could go off the tangent.

Dave: it out

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Focus, Eli. Focus.

Dave: throw the cars on the

If you say I suck, I'm not gonna pay attention to you either. So I, I, I don't care. You're a baby to me.

Dave: We work hard enough

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah. Give,

Dave: giving us

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: yeah.

Dave: put a little thought into it

Yes. It's locked behind the paywall from episode one. Oof. This is days I was cringed. Didn't know what the fuck I was doing, to be honest.

Dave: my new

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: To one 40 to one 40. It's locked behind the paywall. It's $3 a month. You know, you could afford it if you want. Especially, you know, you the, let me now, sorry. The left. Ah, they give your money to me.

Dave: Come on. You know, cultural appropriations are needed.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: No, but I'm also on, I interact on Facebook. I'm thinking about taking down Twitter 'cause I'm just, don't get much engagement as become trash to be honest. I might, I'll try Blue. I'm gonna install I Instagram and a blue sky. Oh, hi. Ironic. I know I Basha left, but I wanna see how blue sky is like experiment if it, if it becomes ass, I'll just leave.

That's it. 'cause Twitter. 'cause Twitter, I refuse to call it the letter. Damn you Elon Muskie ruined the branding of Twitter forever. Yeah, I'm just not getting much engagement and I just don't see the point and it's crap. And I'm gonna refuse just to pay for features where I can get for free, um, and other social media platforms.

Dave: A put.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Minos, Mevo. I'm out. I'm out. I'm leaving. That's it? Yeah, that's it.

Dave: I'm gonna also, um, what I'm gonna do is I'll put your links below in the description as well as rumble because, um, we, I have the same problem. YouTube, they're changing around their algorithm, but they have this thing where they have quote unquote, like controversial podcasters.

They won't push our content out. So if anybody out there try to give a little bit of support, if you wanna watch a video version of this podcast, watch it on Rumble, where we actually get credit where credit is due. Um. And what is your social media handle

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Oh, let me pull that up. How unprepared. There you go. Professional moment people. Professional moment. Um, look at that. I was, I was being so good because I think,

Dave: this point?

Dave: Up until this point.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah, I was so, I don't, this is, look, I don't even care. It's up. This is like genuine stuff to me. Let me go, lemme go check my thing. I was doing so good, so good here, but oh well.

Uh, I'd rather be real and flawed than perfect and fake. Okay, so let's see. The, the social media hands for Facebook is Elias Illusion. That was my old fake name, so that's why it's weird like that. And TikTok, which is really Rumble, it looks like it's a TikTok bug, but it's really Rumble. Yeah, that's a, I might be on TikTok too, by the way.

Um, that's another thing. I forgot to say it in one of the, one of the other episodes, but whatever

Dave: I'll put it in. Oh,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: you know.

Dave: find it.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Yeah,

Dave: I'll put the link.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: no, and, um, yeah, I, I mean my, my guess my, my pop match profile has all of that actually. So it's all, it's all housed in one place, but the new stuff is not there yet. So don't, don't, don't, don't put too much effort into that.

Dave: you.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Um, I'll be pushing that. I'll be pushing that hard next year. Um, that's, that's just a little future tease for some views. Um, you know, join politically high tech. You know, I, I bring the left, the right, a center. Interesting. They're green. I haven't brought a green yet.

I, I, I like to have a green party person. I brought, I have a few libertarians on already, so they, lots of check

Dave: Check mark

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Um, now, you know, just to get a green, just to get a, now, now need like a green or even more left lane parts, even worker families probably. It'd be great to have one of those on, even though I extremely disagree with, um, one of them, I mean.

Politically I'm against her when it comes to like the voting rights thing that not her, the organization. 'cause they're the ones that I love this closed primary crap. Um, so that part we, we will definitely clash on that. I Oh, that's gonna be confusing. It's for the big rich interest. You know, the big interest is gonna to us.

No, it,

Dave: No.

Both the parties suck. They do. And that's my strong sentiment. That's why they don't wanna be Democrat. They, they may be Democrat on housing, but I don't know. They could be Republican when it comes to business.

Dave: I mean, they got a donkey and an elephant. come on bro. Like there are way better animals that you can choose as a ma, really, A donkey and an elephant. all the animals you could choose from the animal kingdom, those are the ones that you choose

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: You know what? I didn't think too much about that, but I actually agree. I, I will settle with a cat and a dog. You know,

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: that's how, that's how, you know, we still, you know, some of, some America's still stuck like 18th century crap. Maybe they were value at that time. I, I don't know. Um, I don't know who owns the elephant. Definitely the 1%, I don't know a person and even, well, donkey, well that's more easy to own, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

There you go. Well, you know, it makes sense. You know, the Republicans are arrogant, elephants and Democrats are just normal jackasses. So there you go. So it makes sense. Oh my god, we, we off, we gonna be so canceled our love. I can't wait.

Dave: this. Um, but honestly, is there anybody out there? Like, I will leave your social media handles and everything below, so just make it easier for people to be able to find it. and again, man, like seriously, I really appreciate you spending the time and like talking all this.

So with that motherfuckers, we will catch you on the next one. All right. out. Yeah.

Elias Marty of Politically High-Tech: Bye.

Dave: All right. There we go.