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Dr. G:
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All right.
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First talk of the morning has been
done, and I have to say, I hate
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bugs- ... but I love entomology.
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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Okay.
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Dr. G:
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So how about you let our audience
know who you are and what you do?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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I'm Dr.
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Samantha Sawyer, and I'm a board-certified
forensic entomologist, and I'm an
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assistant professor of forensic
science at the University of New Haven.
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So I do both teaching, research,
and I privately consult on the side.
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Dr. G:
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Excellent.
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Let's start with the basics.
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What is forensic entomology?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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Forensic entomology is the use
of insects in a legal setting
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to answer legal questions.
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So forensic entomology spans a
wide variety of different topics.
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The most common one is called medical
legal forensic entomology, which was
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the one in the workshop today, um,
which is involving death investigation,
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neglect, and abuse, and how insects
can answer questions around that.
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Primarily, forensic timelines,
trying to determine time of death
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estimations or time of neglect.
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Dr. G:
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People get this idea, right, like the CSI
effect and the stuff that they see on TV.
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So what are the myths and realities as
far as what you can tell from insects?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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So I think in forensic entomology,
the biggest myth is that we do
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what the medical examiner does.
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Like, we give that postmortem
interval estimation.
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Um, and, you know, sometimes outside of
the United States, you'll hear people
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use postmortem interval for entomology.
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But currently, since 2011, people have
really shifted to time of colonization
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estimates because we really do more
than just the postmortem interval.
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So it is also that idea where if insects
are colonizing a living individual, we
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can still come in and provide that time
of colonization estimate that gives
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the investigators that timeline still.
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Also, I think people assume
entomologists just exist in crime labs.
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We don't.
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We're mostly academics or doing
some other full-time job, and we
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do private consulting on the side,
so we all have our own private
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businesses and things like that.
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Um, there is one person out
of the Houston Crime Lab.
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Her name's Michelle Sanford,
and, um, she's awesome.
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And so she does that as her full-time
job, but all of the, the rest of us
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are doing it as private consulting.
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Dr. G:
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So it's not quite the, you know, you
go into, into the field and find a
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bug and say, "This has, this body
has been here for three days," right?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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Yeah, yeah.
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The, the classic, like Gil Grissom,
like- Right ... picks up the maggot.
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Yeah, no, it's definitely not that simple.
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Um, sometimes though, uh, it is
interesting 'cause people will
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get impressed 'cause you're
like, "Oh, it's this species."
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So I think there is still that
perception of it, but it's not
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like it is in the TV shows.
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Dr. G:
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What are the common mistakes
or things that people do when,
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when doing entomology samples?
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And I guess I'll preface it with , again,
I love entomology, and whenever there
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are bugs in a case, I get really excited.
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So what are the things that you see,
that if somebody's listening that
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does this kind of work, you know,
easy things that they can prevent?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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I think the biggest mistake that
individuals make is they will just take
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a maggot, they'll throw it in isopropyl
alcohol, and they'll ship it off.
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And that's good 'cause
you have the specimen.
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Um, sometimes people will just take
photos, and they think because sometimes
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you can be savvy and there's certain
species that you can look at and identify,
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that they think all you need is photos.
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So it can really limit what, um,
an entomologist could provide.
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Um, but I would say the biggest
thing is making sure that you hot
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water kill your insects, put them
in ethanol if you can, and then
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get them right to an entomologist.
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Dr. G:
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Excellent.
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Anybody interested in learning more
about entomology and how to make
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submissions and how to do things
right and getting, you know, like,
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the paperwork and everything required,
how can they get that information?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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I can take emails directly and
point individuals, either to
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a workshop that I'll be doing.
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Um, I regularly do online training.
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I do in-person training.
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Most of my job is really trying to
educate people on how they can use insect
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evidence, so I'm always happy to do that.
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And if I'm not doing a training currently,
I can direct you to someone who can
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give you the appropriate training
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Dr. G:
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Excellent.
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So how, where can people find you?
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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You can email me either at my university
email at ssawyer@newhaven.edu,
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or you could do my case specific
email, which is sjsawyerfe@gmail.com.
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Dr. G:
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Excellent.
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Thank you, Dr.
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Sawyer for talking to us and
for this amazing presentation.
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Dr. Samantha Sawyer:
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Awesome.
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Thank you.