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In conversation with Christine Elliott, former Deputy Premier and Minister of Health in Ontario, and the newest member of Fasken’s Health Law Group
Bonus Episode • 5th October 2022 • Perspectives – Legal Voices on Business • Fasken
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Welcome, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Laurie Turner, a

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partner at Fasken and together with Lynne Golding, serve as the chair of Fasken Health

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Law Group. Together with me today, I have our new counsel, Christine Elliott. So as most

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of you know, Christine served as the provincial minister of health, commencing in

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2018 and serving in that role until earlier this year. We thank Christine for the central

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role that she played in the effort to protect our collective health during the pandemic in

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that capacity.

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And welcome her again to Fasken. So Christine started her role with Fasken earlier this

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month and previous to joining Fasken and while serving as the Minister of Health of

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the province. Christine also served as deputy premier of the province from 2018 to 2022.

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She was first elected to the provincial legislature in 2006 and returned in 2007,

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2011, 2014 and 2018.

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Christine also served as Ontario's first patient ombudsman from 2016 to 2018.

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As many of you are also likely aware, Christine is a lawyer by trade. She

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graduated from the University of Western Ontario Law School and practiced for several

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years before entering public service. In her new role at the firm, Christine's focus will

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be on supporting clients in the health care, life sciences and technology sectors. So

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thanks so much for being here with us today, Christine. Maybe I'll just without further

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ado, launch into the first question I have for you.

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Sure.

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Well, our viewers are undoubtedly aware of your work in the political space. Can you

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share with us what your work will look like and the support that you're going to offer

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clients in your new role at the firm?

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Well, first, let me just say that I'm really very happy to have joined the team. It's a

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wonderful firm with excellent lawyers, and I really look forward to doing whatever I can

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to support existing clients and also help to bring in some new clients.

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I have had a unique perspective, I guess one could say, in the work that I did in health.

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And I do know how government views some new propositions that come forward to them, the

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things that they concentrate on. I can offer some suggestions on things that clients

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might want to emphasize if they're approaching government and maybe some things

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that are not as important.

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But I also know what government needs to do and what government is looking for the

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supports that they need. And I know that there are many clients that are able to

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provide goods, services, ideas, whatever it might be.

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And so I look forward to working with you and with Lynne and the rest of the team

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to bring those ideas forward, to allow clients to be successful, but also to make

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sure that the people of Ontario benefit as well when government takes those ideas out.

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Great. Thank you so much. And with our student recruitment process coming up in the

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next few weeks, one of the most common questions that we get as lawyers from the

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students we interview is why we chose Fasken as the place to practice. Are you able to

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tell me a little bit about why you selected a law firm generally and then Fasken in

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particular to kick off the next stage of your career?

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Well, I would say generally, having been a lawyer for more years than I really care to

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remember, it seems almost like coming home to me because I did start as a practicing

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lawyer and it seems sort of a natural way for me to to move forward in the next phase

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of my career. But as far as Fasken is concerned, I do know that the firm has an

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excellent reputation. It has very, very talented lawyers and with a large health law

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practice, which is something that I did develop some expertise in over the last four

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years in particular. And so it seems like a very, very good fit for me.

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Great. Thanks so much. Christine, You've had such an interesting and successful career so

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far. Can you share with us a bit about your career trajectory?

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Sure. It's well, I guess some people would say I can't hold a job because I've done

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almost everything that is possible as a lawyer and as a politician.

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But I did start out as as a practicing lawyer.

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I then moved and worked for the the ombudsman of Ontario for several years, and then I

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worked as a bank auditor for about four years.

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And it wasn't.

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I then returned to practicing law, but it wasn't really until after my late

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husband, who had been the provincial member for Whitby-oshawa, decided to run federally,

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that there was an opening provincially. And I didn't think it would be good for our

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marriage if I decided to take him on and challenge him for the nomination as a

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provincial member. So I decided that I would try and be elected because of my volunteer

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work more than anything else. I had the opportunity for a number of years to work as

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a volunteer on our local community mental health organization's board.

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I also served as a representative on our Children's Treatment Centre board and helped

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raise some money for the local hospital foundation, but I also had the opportunity

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to work a lot with differently abled people, which led to my involvement with the

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Abilities Centre in Whitby. And it was really because of my passion for all of those

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things and seeing some of the gaps in wanting to be helpful in addressing some of those

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gaps and make the system better for the people that use it. That got me into

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provincial politics and and I've always had health as a focus ever since. I'm not a

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health practitioner, of course, but it has been an area that has really interested me

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and of course challenged me significantly over the last four years in particular.

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Great. Now we all bring to the table our unique experiences and insights. We've

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talked about your political career and the various roles that you've held. Can you tell

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us how you think those experiences and insights are going to be of assistance to you

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in your new role here at the firm and also to our clients?

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Well, yes, I think that there were two major things that I was involved with in

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Health. One was the transformation of our health care system from one that was reliant

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on the 14 health integration networks and the and the movement into Ontario Health with

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local Ontario health teams and combining both physical health and mental health. That was

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something that we were undertaking before the COVID pandemic hit.

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And then with COVID, of course, you had to learn to move very quickly and address

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problems, challenges and and find solutions, which meant that you had to really work as a

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team very quickly to analyze a situation, understand exactly what the problem was,

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devise solutions, recognizing that in many cases, when you find a solution in one area,

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it can cause problems or challenges in other areas. But anticipating that and being ready

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to deal with that. It was also really important to move very quickly too, so I

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believe that I have that as a background that I'm able to analyze situations.

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I love working with other team players and working with clients, so I think that all of

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those experiences and the work that I did in the past four years, having to move

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quickly and decisively will hopefully be of advantage to Fasken clients in the future.

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Great. Thanks so much. So given your significant knowledge of the health care

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space, what do you see as first, some significant issues that might be facing the

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sector at this time? And then also, on a more positive note, perhaps, what are some areas

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of opportunity, again, that you see for the health care sector at this time?

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Well, I think some of the challenges we've seen pretty clearly in the last short while,

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one is that there's a serious issue with health, human resources.

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That's not something that money can change because it takes time for a qualified

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health person to be to be trained. So I think that's definitely a challenge. But I think

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that there are organizations out there that can be helpful that we would love to work

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with to be able to bring some solutions to government to help with that. I think that

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there's also a challenge in long term care as well in terms of having people be in the

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right place at the right time to get the care that they need. And the government is

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building more spaces, but they of course have to be the right spaces and the ones best

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suited for people's needs. And again, there are many Fasken clients that know how to do

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this and are in a position to bring forward some solutions to government as well. But I

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think there are lots of opportunities in many areas. One is in the area of technology

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having a connected system of care for people, which means in many cases that you have to

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use technology to connect not just the frontline professional who's doing the

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family doctor, but people often have other professionals working with them, be it

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specialists, dietitians, physiotherapists, pharmacists, so many others. So I think

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there's a lot of opportunity in that technology space. But also there are some

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wonderful innovations that are coming forward. And I think that after the COVID

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experience where we started doing things differently because we had to, now we can do

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things because we want to, that we can see that it can result in better patient focused

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care. And so I think some of the old ways of doing things we don't have to rely on

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anymore. So I'm very excited about it. I think it's a great time for people who have

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these great ideas that I want to offer whatever expertise I can to them as Fasken

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clients so that they can bring those ideas forward for the benefit of the people of

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Ontario to help truly create a patient centered system of care. And I think that's

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something that we all want. And there's many opportunities for many people and many

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organizations to be part of it. And I hope to help them to be able to bring that forward

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as part of the Fasken team.

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Great.

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So you've been with the firm for a few weeks now. Are there any surprises or lessons that

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you've learned already that you want to tell us about?

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I would say all good surprises. Everyone has been extremely warm and welcoming. It's a

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fabulous team.

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I think from my own perspective, though, I really need to work very hard on learning

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all of the systems so that I can use them all very capably. But I am being trained by some

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great people. But Fasken is just a wonderful place to work and and I'm so grateful to be

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here.

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Great.

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So we've heard about you, the lawyer and you, the politician. Can you tell us more about

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Christine Elliott? Outside of work, what are your main areas of focus? Outside of the

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work hours?

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Oh, well, I would say primarily my family.

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I have three sons who are triplets and one's getting married next month.

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So I've been rather busy with wedding arrangements lately. But I would say,

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generally speaking, I whatever spare time I have, I'm trying to work on fitness. I

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think all of those Zoom calls I had over several years as Minister of Health caught

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up with me a little bit. So I'm trying to deal with that. And and I'm also now taking

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bridge lessons because I'm trying to be mentally as well as physically fit. So that

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takes up most of my private time.

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Great. And you spoke earlier a little bit about your work with not for profit

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organizations. Is that still something that you continue to be involved with?

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Yes. For the period of time that I was minister of health, I was not able to

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participate as a volunteer on any of those organizations. But there are a number that

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are still of great interest to me, working with differently abled children and adults,

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working with people that have mental health and substance abuse channels, challenges.

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Sorry, all of those are still really important to me and I hope to become

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re-engaged now that I'm no longer part of government. But that's what got me into

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politics in the first place, and that's something that I hope to return to.

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Great. Thanks so much, Christine. Thanks for joining us today and giving us the

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opportunity to hear more about your past career and your future ambitions at the

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firm. We look forward to you joining us in future webinars and events at the firm. So

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for those of you who wanted to reach out to Christine, you can, of course, find her on

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the Fasken website.

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So thanks again to everyone for joining us and we hope to see you all soon. Thanks very

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