Leif and Steve do a spoiler free after watch of the OG Gossip Girl.
This week the guys break down Season 1, episode 3 titled Poison Ivy
Blair is thrilled when her mother, Eleanor, chooses her to be the new face of her clothing line; Serena and Dan are reminded once again that they come from two very different worlds; Nate and Chuck indulge in a boys' weekend to blow off steam after Ivy Week. – IMDB
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>> Steve: I describe that movie, um,
Speaker:that movie to me. It's when it was
Speaker:good, it was great, and when
Speaker:it was bad, Russell Crowe was
Speaker:singing.
Speaker:>> Leif: Mhm.
Speaker:Hey, upper east siders, and all you scandal loving listeners
Speaker:out there, you just tuned into the non judging
Speaker:breakfast pod where the coffee is strong, the
Speaker:waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
Speaker:ever. I'm, um, Leif your seasoned gossip girl
Speaker:veteran.
Speaker:>> Steve: And I'm Steve, your newbie, your
Speaker:greenhorn, your. I don't know, Leif
Speaker:what's the word for the new kid on the block
Speaker:in Gossip Girl?
Speaker:>> Leif: I think they would label you as a project. You
Speaker:know, girls who have the potential to be a blairite.
Speaker:>> Steve: Well, then dress me in an Eleanor Waldorf
Speaker:original and let's get started.
Speaker:>> Leif: Sounds good.
Speaker:>> Steve: So folks, here's the deal. Leif has been living and
Speaker:breathing gossip girl since the beginning, and I am
Speaker:watching for the very first time
Speaker:together. You're. We're your dynamic duo. And we're going to
Speaker:be dissecting scene by scene to go
Speaker:through all of the romance,
Speaker:the drama, and the sometimes
Speaker:questionable fashion choices of this
Speaker:iconic 2007 tv show.
Speaker:>> Leif: That's right. Each week we'll break down the latest
Speaker:schemes, secret hookups and couture
Speaker:catastrophes. And trust me, there are plenty of them.
Speaker:>> Steve: And, um, because we are all about inclusivity
Speaker:here, there is always a seat for you at the
Speaker:non judging breakfast table, whether you are a
Speaker:newbie like me or an old veteran
Speaker:like Leif Go ahead and grab your
Speaker:coffee or pour a mimosa if it's one of
Speaker:those kind of mornings. And let's get ready to
Speaker:dish on the gossip.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, let's go ahead and jump right in. Today we're
Speaker:going to be talking about season one, episode
Speaker:four, bad news Blair.
Speaker:And, uh, Steve, do you know what that, uh, is
Speaker:referencing?
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, boy, do I. I mean,
Speaker:I grew up on the bad news bears,
Speaker:right? Like, that was like
Speaker:in an iconic Keanu Reeves.
Speaker:>> Leif: Right?
Speaker:>> Steve: I'm sorry, folks, we're gonna have to
Speaker:call this off.
Speaker:>> Leif: Now. Of course, we are talking about Billy Bob Thornton
Speaker:movie. Of course, we were talking about the 19, uh,
Speaker:76 movie, uh, starring Walter
Speaker:Matthew.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that.
Speaker:Yeah, uh, it was, you know, was one of
Speaker:those movies of the childhood. And like, because it was
Speaker:also like every kid playing Little League
Speaker:felt like they were in some way, shape or form
Speaker:on the bad news bears. You know, like,
Speaker:because we all. Because we all thought
Speaker:we were playing like Mike Schmidt, but we're
Speaker:really playing like a bunch of kids playing Little
Speaker:League, you know, um, and
Speaker:I remember, like,
Speaker:that movie just really resonating with me as a
Speaker:kid because of that. And, like. And
Speaker:granted, there was
Speaker:absolutely no I batting in my house at the
Speaker:racism in the movie or the. Or the
Speaker:other, like, hugely problematic
Speaker:moments, which also kind
Speaker:of, you know, it just. That was very
Speaker:much a part of my upbringing, you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: This episode was directed by
Speaker:Patrick Norris. Uh, he's a
Speaker:veteran tv director. Done, um, a
Speaker:lot of stuff, but he is specifically, uh, a
Speaker:king of the teen drama
Speaker:genre. Uh, you got my so called
Speaker:life, Dawson's Creek, Party of Five,
Speaker:the OC, Roswell, Chuck,
Speaker:the Vampire Diaries, Heart of Dixie,
Speaker:greek, pretty little liars, and
Speaker:if you will notice, several, uh, Josh
Speaker:short shows on there. Pretty much. Pretty much every
Speaker:Josh short show, uh, he has been on.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: As a director.
Speaker:>> Steve: They seem. They seem to
Speaker:work together. Yes.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, he is, ah, one of his. Go to Josh
Speaker:Roche's. Go to. Guys.
Speaker:>> Steve: Do we know how many episodes he has done
Speaker:of the show?
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, I can look it up.
Speaker:Um, see,
Speaker:Patrick Norris, he
Speaker:did
Speaker:gossip girl.
Speaker:>> Steve: Gossip girl.
Speaker:>> Leif: He's done, uh, quite a bit. We got parenthood, huh? Even done
Speaker:episodes of izombie Nashville.
Speaker:I think that's also a Josh Schwartz show. Carrie
Speaker:diaries, gossip Girl. He did eight
Speaker:episodes of Gossip Girl.
Speaker:>> Steve: Eight episodes of Gossip Girl. Okay. Okay.
Speaker:>> Leif: I had a little over 100, so.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Anyways, um, this 8%.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Story, um, by, uh, Josh,
Speaker:um, interesting because this, uh,
Speaker:he will later become the showrunner for
Speaker:gallery.
Speaker:>> Steve: And it's also funny because I feel like.
Speaker:Is this the first time that we have seen
Speaker:the story by not credited to the author of
Speaker:the novels?
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, no, this is just the first time I stopped
Speaker:listing that.
Speaker:>> Steve: Okay.
Speaker:>> Leif: That's just what it has on, like, IMDb.
Speaker:Um, but I realized, like, that's not really that they're just listing
Speaker:the producers and, like, yeah,
Speaker:other people.
Speaker:>> Steve: You're. All right.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, this is.
Speaker:>> Steve: She's listed as a creator, too. Yes.
Speaker:>> Leif: Cecily Fazgar. Um, but so,
Speaker:yeah, so Stesli, Joshua, Stephanie
Speaker:Savage, executive producers.
Speaker:But, uh, if you watch the opening credits, uh, this episode
Speaker:shows written by Josh Saffron.
Speaker:>> Steve: Right.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, we'll go ahead and jump right into act
Speaker:one. Uh, Blair is
Speaker:dreaming. She is Audrey Hepburn in
Speaker:breakfast at Tiffany, except she is on the outside
Speaker:looking in at Serena Moonrifer
Speaker:plays.
Speaker:>> Steve: This is my dream.
Speaker:Not anymore. So
Speaker:great. Like, it's just so. Yeah, I
Speaker:love that. That, you
Speaker:know, clearly, she has this fear. Like, I've, uh,
Speaker:made some sort of white flag
Speaker:gesture, and now Serena and I are kind of working
Speaker:stuff out.
Speaker:>> Leif: And she's just gonna take everything from me.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, but now it's just gonna go right back to how it used
Speaker:to be. Yep.
Speaker:>> Leif: And we see Blair awaken in the penthouse
Speaker:to the sound of Serena talking with
Speaker:Eleanor. Uh, Eleanor is
Speaker:extremely undermining towards Blair, but
Speaker:fawning over Serena.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, like, he. It's weird.
Speaker:Like, you're being weird about it.
Speaker:And this is the first time that we've seen new mom.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes, this is the first introduction to Margaret
Speaker:Collins as Eleanor Waldorf.
Speaker:>> Steve: Okay. Right. And I don't
Speaker:think that I actually even
Speaker:noticed before,
Speaker:because it's been two episodes.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, she's missing episode two and, uh, three.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker:It feels like second
Speaker:Becky almost. Only less.
Speaker:You know, only like she got second becky
Speaker:only on her first episode. Yes, but
Speaker:you're right. Like, I feel like she really.
Speaker:She really has the bite
Speaker:that this character
Speaker:needs.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, so I have actually gone back and read, and the reason
Speaker:why she was replaced was because she looked.
Speaker:>> Steve: The other actress looked you young. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker:she. She really did. And you already have Rufus,
Speaker:who.
Speaker:>> Leif: And Lily is also very young.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and Lily's pretty young looking, too,
Speaker:so. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Anyways, we got Chuck. Uh,
Speaker:and Nate are at, ah, Chuck's suite again, hiding
Speaker:valuable objects before a party. Chuck, uh,
Speaker:is the party planner, and everyone is forced to follow his
Speaker:plans. We are first introduced to
Speaker:Carter basin, played by
Speaker:Sebastian Stan.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Where do I know this guy from?
Speaker:I really recognize him. Is he.
Speaker:>> Leif: Is he from think metal arm?
Speaker:>> Steve: Uh, what's it called? Arrow
Speaker:or, uh, bigger.
Speaker:>> Leif: Much bigger.
Speaker:>> Steve: Bigger metal arm? Oh,
Speaker:he's Bucky.
Speaker:Holy shit. I just spent that
Speaker:episode. Like, why do I know this guy? Where
Speaker:do I know him from? Oh, boy.
Speaker:>> Leif: Fine. We're good.
Speaker:>> Steve: Where do I know him from? Where. Why do I know this
Speaker:guy?
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes, he plays Bucky Barnes and many other
Speaker:things. This, um, was before he got hit
Speaker:it really big. Um, uh, he
Speaker:actually is a recurring character through several
Speaker:seasons. Um, I won't spoil too
Speaker:much, but, uh, uh, yeah, uh, uh, he
Speaker:kind of started to fade from the show
Speaker:about when he got the role in, uh, that
Speaker:version of les mis with, uh, Hugh Jackman.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah, I described that
Speaker:movie. Um, uh, that movie
Speaker:to me. It's when it was good, it
Speaker:was great, and when it was
Speaker:bad, Russell Crowe was singing.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, that was my interesting
Speaker:choice.
Speaker:>> Steve: That movie, that. That play. First
Speaker:of all, I was a promise, that movie, since I first
Speaker:heard the soundtrack in when I was a
Speaker:kid, and I saw that show. That was a
Speaker:birthday present for me when it came to Philadelphia on
Speaker:its first tour.
Speaker:>> Leif: Wow.
Speaker:>> Steve: Like, my dad took me to see les mis for my
Speaker:birthday, and it was amazing. And then I went
Speaker:again when I was in high school, um, a friend
Speaker:of mine, it was where my love for theater came from,
Speaker:and, like, my love for acting and being on stage and
Speaker:love for music. And music. I don't even love
Speaker:musicals, but I love that musical.
Speaker:Um, and so. And I remember just
Speaker:they for years teased that movie, and then we got the
Speaker:fucking Liam Neeson movie
Speaker:that was like, really?
Speaker:This is what you're like? Oh, a happy ending.
Speaker:Oh, great. This is the lame is. I
Speaker:knew, like, you would have just been a
Speaker:fucking story. I would have been okay with it, but God damn,
Speaker:did they fucking tank that movie. So
Speaker:then when they finally give me that
Speaker:musical, they give me fucking
Speaker:russell crowe, who I'm, uh,
Speaker:not gonna. I'm not criticizing the guy as an actor,
Speaker:but I'm gonna criticize him as a singer. When you're singing
Speaker:some of my favorite fucking songs in
Speaker:musical theater stars is possibly my
Speaker:favorite song throughout all
Speaker:of you know. It's above somewhere over the
Speaker:rainbow. It's, uh, above fucking. There's a place for us.
Speaker:It's above fucking. You know,
Speaker:I never heard them singing till
Speaker:there was you. Like, I, uh. Like, it isn't probably my all
Speaker:time fucking.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, it's definitely some questionable casting.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: So he's sorry.
Speaker:>> Steve: I'm back.
Speaker:>> Leif: Serena and Blair are walking down the street, and two
Speaker:random men leer at Serena, and Blair is
Speaker:jealous. This leads to a conversation about
Speaker:how Blair's mother favors Serena.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. I mean, and it's like,
Speaker:no, no.
Speaker:Like, we all just saw what we
Speaker:saw.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Like, she. She was
Speaker:wanting over. She didn't wake
Speaker:Blair up? Uh.
Speaker:Um, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: So Serena sees Dan, and they flirt
Speaker:until Blair comes out and insults Dan's choice
Speaker:of sandwich. And then they continue to flirt and
Speaker:make loose plans to meet up in the
Speaker:future.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um. Um, I actually, there's one thing I want to address from the
Speaker:previous scene, too, that I. That I forgot to mention,
Speaker:which was Eleanor telling Blair
Speaker:what to eat. Yeah. Eleanor
Speaker:very specifically being like, oh, well,
Speaker:not the. The. Not the yogurt. The fruit has less fat in
Speaker:it. I lost two pounds while you were gone.
Speaker:>> Leif: She says. She said, not the, uh.
Speaker:>> Steve: She's.
Speaker:>> Leif: She's going for the croissant. Instead of tucking into
Speaker:that, why don't you try the low fat yogurt?
Speaker:>> Steve: That's what it is. Yeah. And.
Speaker:And when she turns to her like that,
Speaker:like, I felt the dagger go into my heart
Speaker:when she said that. And then Blair's
Speaker:response. I lost two pounds
Speaker:while you were away. Twisted the
Speaker:knife. It was heart wrenching. It
Speaker:just. Really just. That was the.
Speaker:The most sympathy I think I've
Speaker:felt for Blair since her last interaction
Speaker:with her mom.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: You know, they're definitely starting to give.
Speaker:>> Leif: Blair, uh, some more characterization other than just the evil
Speaker:bitch.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, she's being. She's being
Speaker:treated.
Speaker:Yeah, she. You're. You're. Yeah, it
Speaker:was. And you're getting layers.
Speaker:>> Leif: You're getting layers.
Speaker:>> Steve: You're getting layers. And you're seeing those. The relationship
Speaker:that she has with food again. M. And that it's
Speaker:coming from her mom having
Speaker:her own projections onto her.
Speaker:>> Leif: Which kind of makes you think she probably would have wanted that
Speaker:pork sandwich. I know I kind of wanted that.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Like, hot pork and roasted cheese. Uh, melted
Speaker:cheese.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And. Man. M. There. And again,
Speaker:there's Serena, and her mom doesn't say
Speaker:anything to Serena, you know, which is
Speaker:also really kind of like.
Speaker:>> Leif: And you see Serena feels bad about it, too.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. She.
Speaker:>> Leif: She immediately puts the. Puts the bread down.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And.
Speaker:Yeah. And it's like, you
Speaker:see that Serena gets it. And Serena is,
Speaker:uh, possibly the only one who is really
Speaker:fully aware of the dynamic with their own
Speaker:mom, that she's very aware of
Speaker:her relationship with her mom because there isn't one
Speaker:there. But I think that it gives
Speaker:her a little more perspective on everyone else's
Speaker:relationships with their parents,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: Correct. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: So sorry. I wanted to, like, at that point, because I think
Speaker:it's really important to Blair's character.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes, I agree.
Speaker:Uh, Nate and Chuck are catching up with
Speaker:Carter back at the party. Nate is
Speaker:enamored. Chuck is bored.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um, yeah.
Speaker:And I. It's funny because, like, I make a note
Speaker:later on that there's not really a party of the week, but I guess
Speaker:there's kind of a starting off the party with the party of
Speaker:the week, and it is this big, like,
Speaker:brogasm party, it seems.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, so the reason why this episode
Speaker:and these are kind of the less good
Speaker:episodes is you got two. The stories
Speaker:are completely separate, so you gotta have
Speaker:two parties. You got the one is the lost
Speaker:weekend with Nate and Chuck.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And then you got the other party, which is the photo shoot.
Speaker:>> Steve: Right.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:>> Leif: Because you have Dan, Blair, and Serena all there.
Speaker:>> Steve: Mhm. I wouldn't really call that a
Speaker:party.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's not a party, but it's an
Speaker:event that they all. It's an event that they show up.
Speaker:>> Steve: I'll give you that. It's just that, and I
Speaker:think that. Well, and, um, we can. We'll address it
Speaker:later.
Speaker:>> Leif: And photographs are kind of like a party. I mean, there's music
Speaker:going on. You got food laid out.
Speaker:>> Steve: My issue with it is that
Speaker:until now, major
Speaker:catharsis. Catharsis.
Speaker:Catharsis happen.
Speaker:And, you know, all of those, like, major
Speaker:climatic moments happen when
Speaker:all of our characters are together.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker:>> Steve: This is.
Speaker:>> Leif: This is the first episode where you get the big split.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And those are not the episodes that I think
Speaker:are not as good.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. I. And I'm. And I am with you
Speaker:on that assumption. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, anyway, so we get that,
Speaker:um, a little bit more. So we get that.
Speaker:We get that Carter, uh, is
Speaker:when Nate and Chuck were in 8th grade, Carter was
Speaker:a senior.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: So we kind of all knew that guy in high school. They're
Speaker:still kind of coming around to parties and.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And so I totally get Chuck here.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And at the same time, there are those
Speaker:people that are like, wow, that guy's so cool because he, like,
Speaker:totally went out and did his own.
Speaker:>> Leif: And it is typically the jocks,
Speaker:too.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: They're like, oh, uh, he was so good at the sport that I play.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: I wish I could be like him.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Which Nate. That's totally neat.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. On brand, this guy seemed. This
Speaker:guy is living Nate's. Nate's dream.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: You know, I don't want my dad's fucking money. I
Speaker:just want to go and do my own thing and earn
Speaker:my own way. And. And
Speaker:also, poor little Nate.
Speaker:Adorable, adorable Nate.
Speaker:You can't do that without your dad.
Speaker:>> Leif: Oh, sweetie. Oh, sweetie.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh. Oh, sweetie. If you were to try to go off
Speaker:the grid and go backpacking across Europe,
Speaker:guess how you're flying there.
Speaker:Your daddy's money. Yes.
Speaker:You will do that if your daddy tells you you can.
Speaker:Otherwise, what, are you working
Speaker:at Starbucks and saving up?
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, we see what Carter is, uh, up
Speaker:to later in the episode to try to get his
Speaker:money.
Speaker:>> Steve: Right, right.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, and then so we get, uh, back at the
Speaker:penthouse, Eleanor and her employees are
Speaker:discussing a fascist shoot. While blair
Speaker:and Serena admire the clothes, they are
Speaker:looking for a new model, and the plan is to use
Speaker:blair. Blair seems nervous, but Serena
Speaker:is pushing really hard for Blair to have this.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Great moment for the two of
Speaker:them where blair. Serena catches
Speaker:on. Blair's being timid about it. You know,
Speaker:I, uh. You don't even fully know, if Blair's paying
Speaker:attention until Serena's like, yes, she'll
Speaker:do it. And then you realize blair
Speaker:was playing paying attention
Speaker:again, the acting of Leighton meester,
Speaker:where she's.
Speaker:You really buy that she is
Speaker:trying to ignore this thing that's about to happen for
Speaker:her, this thing that she really wants and.
Speaker:And has never been able to get it because
Speaker:it always goes to Serena. Yeah, and.
Speaker:But. And, uh, kudos
Speaker:to Eleanor for being, like, the best person to
Speaker:represent. My brand is
Speaker:my daughter. Yeah. She looks amazing in these
Speaker:dresses. She is beautiful.
Speaker:My daughter is beautiful. She looks beautiful in
Speaker:these dresses. Who better to represent my
Speaker:brand? Kudos to Eleanor Waldorf
Speaker:once again. Beautiful way to tie up that character
Speaker:arc. She is a good mom after all.
Speaker:I'm glad to see it. We can close the door on that,
Speaker:that she made the right decision. Thank. Thank
Speaker:you.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes.
Speaker:Um, so, yeah, we get that. And then, uh,
Speaker:Blair is in her room discussing the fascist shoe with her
Speaker:friends, and dan, uh, calls Serena, but Blair
Speaker:answers the phone once Serena gets on the
Speaker:phone. Dan and Serena set a date for
Speaker:tonight.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, they're. And they're looking forward to getting
Speaker:together. Blair,
Speaker:you don't have to be like that. But, like, they
Speaker:finally do talk. They get their date arranged.
Speaker:Um, and I'm sure that's going to go off without a hitch,
Speaker:too.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, of course.
Speaker:Nothing could possibly go wrong.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, and we get Serena
Speaker:showing the girls how to do the pop.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah, that's right. Uh, they're all.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. And, um,
Speaker:I will be bringing this scene back up later
Speaker:when we talk about the. Our
Speaker:fashion of the week, our favorite outfit of the
Speaker:week. Mine was actually in this scene.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, also, um,
Speaker:going back to that last scene, um, we actually
Speaker:got introduced to a new recurring character, uh,
Speaker:Laurel, uh, who is kind of like
Speaker:Eleanor's second in command.
Speaker:>> Steve: Okay, I didn't really.
Speaker:Oh, okay. Yeah. The woman who was helping
Speaker:organize the shooting. So she's. Yeah, she.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, the dark. The dark skin, the light hair.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. And the glasses.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yep. I know. Yeah, exactly. You're talking about.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um. Um, yeah. Okay, so that. Yeah, she. She is a
Speaker:recurring character. That's, uh, she'll be back.
Speaker:Um, and then so we get. Rufus
Speaker:is talking with a beautiful art dealer at
Speaker:his gallery. Does, um, Rufus also have a
Speaker:date for tonight?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, um. Um,
Speaker:it sounds like he's at least got an appointment or something
Speaker:that he wants to look good for. Um,
Speaker:so that is interesting for
Speaker:him.
Speaker:>> Leif: Our first introduction to Bex.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Uh,
Speaker:yeah. Who. That's not her scene
Speaker:yet, right. That's not him getting ready for it.
Speaker:>> Leif: No. Uh,
Speaker:she's looking at the painting, and.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, right.
Speaker:>> Leif: And she says, hold it for me. I think the
Speaker:person I'm working for won it.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, I'll be back. Yeah, that's right. That's
Speaker:right.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, yeah, so we have that scene, and
Speaker:then we. The lost weekend continues out on the
Speaker:basketball court. Chuck and Carter nearly get into a
Speaker:fight. Carter leaves, but sets up plans with Nate
Speaker:for later.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh,
Speaker:that's where they're setting up the plans to play the
Speaker:poker game, right? Yes. He's
Speaker:just kind of telling you.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes. He's dropping hints.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And, yeah, we got chuck in his basketball outfit. It was,
Speaker:uh, interesting, to say the least.
Speaker:Outfit.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Uh, well, I mean,
Speaker:it's. It's Chuck being Chuck, really?
Speaker:You know, like.
Speaker:>> Leif: But yeah. Just to reveal the. Behind the
Speaker:phantom curtain, it is definitely one of the more iconic Chuck
Speaker:outfits. It's very talked about and mocked.
Speaker:>> Steve: That's funny because I actually wasn't paying much attention to it.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's, like, incredibly bad.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, that's funny. I'll have to go. I'll have to look at that.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's, like. It's, like, shorts and, like, it's, like, a jersey
Speaker:type t shirt but, like, crown, like, different color
Speaker:crowns on it. Uh, and his hair is doing this
Speaker:weird, like, weird shit going on with his hair. Uh,
Speaker:yeah, it's. It's pretty big.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yep.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's mocked pretty bad on the Internet.
Speaker:Um, so then we see that was that
Speaker:scene we, um, get
Speaker:to at the photo shoot. Blair is not
Speaker:impressing the photographer. Serena
Speaker:tries to encourage Blair to loosen up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um, yeah. And
Speaker:you immediately see where this is going. They're
Speaker:like. And, like. And you see Serena
Speaker:is definitely walking up with the
Speaker:intent of my friend is
Speaker:drowning. I hear them talking about
Speaker:it, and. And, you know,
Speaker:Blair having that wall up
Speaker:initially and being like,
Speaker:get out of here. Like. Like, oh, I knew you're gonna do this, and
Speaker:you're gonna try somebody. She's. No, I just wanted to help you out. And then
Speaker:when Blair is. Looks over and sees them talking about her and turns
Speaker:back and is like, help me.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: And she does. And. And they do
Speaker:have fun together. Yeah, they do have
Speaker:chemistry, and it is a great
Speaker:shoot with the two of them. Um,
Speaker:but you kind of see that Serena
Speaker:is just loving the camera, and the
Speaker:camera is loving her, and they all. And there's
Speaker:this consensus between the
Speaker:photographer that. What's the
Speaker:assistant's name?
Speaker:>> Leif: Laurel.
Speaker:>> Steve: Laurel um, and the.
Speaker:The two of them both have the agreement that she
Speaker:looks fucking amazing in the
Speaker:dress, but the camera, she's not doing anything for the
Speaker:camera, and. And
Speaker:she's not, you know, she. When. Yeah, she is very
Speaker:flat and what? In her affect and in her
Speaker:demeanor and very nervous and very prim, which,
Speaker:again, you got to throw it deleting meester that,
Speaker:like, to just be able
Speaker:to portray that
Speaker:in, you know,
Speaker:when, you know, she doesn't have. When she, you
Speaker:know, it's hard to do
Speaker:something that
Speaker:you're really good at it. Sometimes. It's really hard to do
Speaker:it badly. In fact, the people. The
Speaker:best, it's, like, some of the best among the
Speaker:people, uh, are the ones who can do it badly, if that
Speaker:makes sense.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, so, um.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:Serena calls Dan to cancel the date as
Speaker:he is already waiting in line at the movie theater,
Speaker:he leave or say, ah. As he's already
Speaker:waiting in line, he leaves with a frustrated
Speaker:sigh.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker:she bails on him. And she bails on him for a
Speaker:photo shoot. And the thing is, like, she is
Speaker:being a good friend here.
Speaker:Um, in fact, we actually didn't even. I don't think we
Speaker:addressed the time that they bumped into
Speaker:each other earlier, and.
Speaker:And he was like, why are you guys hanging out? Like,
Speaker:why are you doing this? And. And that was
Speaker:the other time that I was like, blair, you don't have to be like this.
Speaker:Like. Like, why does she come up? And it is
Speaker:immediately.
Speaker:>> Leif: And Stan was not privy to this,
Speaker:the under the bridge scene.
Speaker:>> Steve: Right. But at the same time, Dan
Speaker:has done dick to
Speaker:Blair. Dan has done nothing
Speaker:but, like, punch chuck in the face for
Speaker:sexually assaulting his sister. Like, that is the
Speaker:most that he has done to harm anybody
Speaker:else. So Blair coming up and just being a,
Speaker:uh, fucking asshole to
Speaker:ten just for, like, existing on the
Speaker:sidewalk is, like, why?
Speaker:>> Leif: I think he just kind. I mean, they've already gone to
Speaker:school for three years, so I think he just
Speaker:kind of, as she's, like, the queen of the school. Like,
Speaker:he kind of knows that that's just Blair.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Uh, but it's also, at the same time, it's
Speaker:like, it is just Blair, but,
Speaker:like, he's a nobody to
Speaker:her. So, like, why are you. Why. Like,
Speaker:my beef was. My beef was never with you,
Speaker:Blair. Like, why are you, like, you
Speaker:were upset with her and took it out on me. Why are you still
Speaker:taking it out with me if you guys are getting
Speaker:along? Oh, that.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's not. He's not taking out. It's not that she's
Speaker:just classist.
Speaker:>> Steve: Well, yeah. And, and that is very evident
Speaker:there, too.
Speaker:>> Leif: And that is the end of the first act. So, uh, we're going to go
Speaker:ahead and take a break.
Speaker:All right. We are back for act two.
Speaker:It is nighttime in the city, and the art dealer
Speaker:arrives at the Rufus's gallery. The art
Speaker:dealer, Becks, asks Rufus out to
Speaker:celebrate. But Rufus isn't ready yet, despite living in
Speaker:different zip codes from his estranged wife.
Speaker:>> Steve: Ex wife. I
Speaker:know, I know, but, like, come on, dude,
Speaker:dude, dude, dude.
Speaker:It's an awful long commute. She
Speaker:says, dude, that's not over
Speaker:yet.
Speaker:>> Leif: Give our man Rufus of credit.
Speaker:>> Steve: I just, I just have this, like, um,
Speaker:you know, I'm projecting because, like, my first
Speaker:marriage ended by tearing the band aid off one hair at a time for
Speaker:a year. And it's like, dude,
Speaker:Beck's is, like, right there.
Speaker:>> Leif: She's here. She's right. Right here, right now.
Speaker:>> Steve: Like her. She likes you. Like, get some coffee, bra.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, but, ah, I mean,
Speaker:yeah, he's.
Speaker:>> Steve: Clearly more interested, but
Speaker:fair enough.
Speaker:>> Leif: But Rufus a good guy and
Speaker:he is still married. Technically. Yeah.
Speaker:He's not ready to cross that boundary.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And
Speaker:I'm not privy to any of the conversations that the two of them
Speaker:had. I just figure that when you're living in different zip
Speaker:codes and not really talking to
Speaker:each other, um,
Speaker:that, like, I don't know, maybe I just feel like
Speaker:it's implied that you're allowed to date other
Speaker:people, but I guess I would have that conversation. Should
Speaker:I be in that?
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, uh. Wasn't it like, said that it was like, uh, ah, an artist
Speaker:for. She, like, she was doing art stuff or something. She was kind of, like
Speaker:getting away just to do art or something.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, but like, but it sounds like she's getting
Speaker:away to a place where she doesn't need to necessarily
Speaker:come back. That's my impression.
Speaker:Is that, like, she's.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, but, but still, they have, they
Speaker:haven't, they haven't talked about yet, though.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And the thing is that by the end of this episode, they
Speaker:do that, like, the which, not to
Speaker:jump ahead, but Dan's point of
Speaker:view is really a lot. Also a lot of how
Speaker:I'm feeling towards Rufus's situation.
Speaker:>> Leif: Oh, yeah. And while I agree that
Speaker:that's probably the situation,
Speaker:at the same time, Rufus.
Speaker:>> Steve: Is a good guy doing the right thing.
Speaker:>> Leif: He's a good guy.
Speaker:>> Steve: I get that. I just, I just.
Speaker:And I feel for him. M. You know, I feel for him.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um.
Speaker:Um, so Nate and Chuck
Speaker:are arguing outside a pub. Chuck
Speaker:seems to like. Like he loves the life set up for him,
Speaker:but Nate still wants out. Nate leaves the
Speaker:party and to potentially meet up with Carter for an
Speaker:underground poker game.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and. And, like,
Speaker:Chuck makes some points to Nate, but, like,
Speaker:you know, uh, kind of what I was saying earlier, you
Speaker:can't just go off and do your
Speaker:own thing. Like, when you do that, you kind of
Speaker:close big doors, and you're just going to be on your
Speaker:own at that point. Yeah. Like, if you go to
Speaker:that other college, you're doing it on fucking student
Speaker:loans and. And dorm
Speaker:food, and you're not living the life that you
Speaker:think you're living until you end up going to Dartmouth.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, uh, he points out that Carter's just here. He's not, you know,
Speaker:mooching off his parents. He's just mooching off us now.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's. Yeah.
Speaker:And he's still mooching off of somebody. Yes.
Speaker:Yeah. And. And
Speaker:it's funny. When Chuck bass is the voice
Speaker:of reason and when Chuck Bass is the one
Speaker:whose scumbag radar is going off,
Speaker:I want to listen. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: You gotta wonder what, uh, what Carter's done in the past.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And. And I don't even
Speaker:necessarily. I
Speaker:didn't even make that leap more than
Speaker:I just saw Chuck
Speaker:as just seeing. Seeing
Speaker:this play out before that. It's not the first time that
Speaker:he's seen someone like Carter, that he's seen someone who's
Speaker:done something like this, you know, who
Speaker:threw it all away, and
Speaker:you know, what ended up washed up and
Speaker:living off of their friends. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: So, uh, Dan comes.
Speaker:>> Steve: Excuse me.
Speaker:>> Leif: Dan comes back to the loft and talks to Rufus about
Speaker:Serena missing the date and how her friends
Speaker:and world just seemed completely alien to him.
Speaker:Rufus compares Serena to a girl he used to
Speaker:date? I wonder who that could
Speaker:be.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And when. First of
Speaker:all, I do love the line. I swam, um,
Speaker:for a while. For a while until I
Speaker:drowned. And if that
Speaker:isn't, like, every
Speaker:relationship in one way or another, you know,
Speaker:like. And, you know, I'm.
Speaker:I'm in a really amazing relationship
Speaker:with my wife,
Speaker:but I think that I feel like
Speaker:that imagery is very hard, is very
Speaker:easy to understand, especially with certain relationships. There
Speaker:are those people that, like, you just want to try
Speaker:to keep up with them, and no matter what you're doing
Speaker:to try to keep up with them, you're never
Speaker:going to. And eventually, you're
Speaker:just going to have to, you
Speaker:know, you're going to have to just let it go?
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:And so we see Eleanor
Speaker:tucks Blair into bed. Blair feels approval
Speaker:from her mother, maybe for the first time in her
Speaker:life.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic
Speaker:to have her mother's love. It is so
Speaker:nice that they were able to make these decisions
Speaker:together. And, uh, it is
Speaker:so great to see that
Speaker:they have developed this great
Speaker:resolution. Good job. Close the door.
Speaker:>> Leif: And I actually back to the previous scene. Um,
Speaker:I like the way, uh, Dan describes Blair.
Speaker:Um, everything he hates about the upper east
Speaker:side distilled into 195
Speaker:pound, doe eyed, bon mot
Speaker:tossing, label whoring package of
Speaker:girly evil.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: I mean, Dan's definitely a writer.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's very, very, very
Speaker:vivid, very imaginative, very good with
Speaker:words.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, so, yeah.
Speaker:Uh, so skipping past the scene we just talked about,
Speaker:uh, Serena calls Dan and invites Dan to
Speaker:the fashion shoot.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Are you looking for my sister?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Like, why. Why are you inviting
Speaker:me to this thing? And, like.
Speaker:Like,
Speaker:no. In no way, shape or form is
Speaker:that gonna sound like what is a fun
Speaker:day to me.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, but he agreed in the end.
Speaker:Yeah, she, uh.
Speaker:>> Steve: Cuz he can't sing. Yes.
Speaker:>> Leif: She cuts and she cuts them off. She basically hangs in the pun
Speaker:for.
Speaker:>> Steve: You to say, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll buy you anything you
Speaker:want from craft services. Isn't crash services usually
Speaker:free? I'll see you. Ready. Click.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, and then.
Speaker:So after that, we got at the back of the penthouse,
Speaker:Eleanor is discussing the photo shoot with the
Speaker:photographer. They decide to replace Blair
Speaker:with Serena. Blair's worst fears are coming
Speaker:true.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, and if I remember correctly, is that where they just
Speaker:present her with the option? They didn't
Speaker:actually. Eleanor
Speaker:didn't broadcast her decision. They just
Speaker:tell her that,
Speaker:and she.
Speaker:>> Leif: Kind of, like, she nods at the end, like, the final shots of her.
Speaker:>> Steve: Like, acquiescing, but,
Speaker:like. So once again, we have the parent
Speaker:choosing money over their kid, too.
Speaker:>> Leif: Again. So, uh, and, um, I feel
Speaker:conflicted about this because in this spot, I think
Speaker:this is the right choice. She's listening to the
Speaker:experts. What she shouldn't have done
Speaker:is put Blair in this position to begin with.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And, well.
Speaker:Well, I even get that because it was short notice.
Speaker:And her rationale between. Behind having
Speaker:Blair in there, but the other choice
Speaker:that you had was the two of them together were working through
Speaker:it and doing something and had some chemistry. She could have been
Speaker:involved. You know, there were
Speaker:other options and, like, to
Speaker:then. Well. And how the rest plays out, you
Speaker:know?
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, uh, I don't know how much this plays
Speaker:in, but if you remember it was Serena that really
Speaker:pushed for Blair to, like, they were, like, kind of, like, thinking
Speaker:about it, and Serena's like, yes, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. Serena was always behind
Speaker:Blair doing, but she.
Speaker:>> Leif: No, like, she. But she's the one that, like, really pushed it to
Speaker:happen. Like, uh, Eleanor was, like, on the fence, like, considering
Speaker:it, and Serena is the one that pushed her.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true.
Speaker:>> Leif: And so that is the end of act
Speaker:two. And so we go into act three.
Speaker:Uh, Blair awakens for the photoshoot.
Speaker:Clearly excited, Eleanor informs
Speaker:Blair she has been replaced, but she blames
Speaker:the photographer and fails to mention Serena
Speaker:has replaced her. After Eleanor
Speaker:leaves, Blair leaves a voicemail for
Speaker:Serena to meet her at the shoot and crash it.
Speaker:>> Steve: Uh, uh. Oh. Uh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: That's not gonna end well.
Speaker:>> Steve: No, not at all. And it is, like, you're not
Speaker:being honest with your kid, and, like,
Speaker:obviously your kid is gonna be mad about
Speaker:this, and obviously, your kid's gonna
Speaker:find out what you
Speaker:did, like, their pictures that you're using to
Speaker:advertise your company. You think she's not
Speaker:gonna see what happened,
Speaker:you know, and so, yeah, really shitty for Blair
Speaker:to wake up to, but, yeah, so
Speaker:she's gonna crash this.
Speaker:Crash this, uh, photo shoot.
Speaker:>> Leif: Mhm. Um,
Speaker:and then so Lily returns the painting to
Speaker:Rufus's gallery. Apparently, Lily and Allison
Speaker:have beef, and Lily is the client of
Speaker:Beck's.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Fantastic. It's so good
Speaker:that, you know, and, like, the whole argument
Speaker:is great. Like, how would she feel about this being
Speaker:on my wall? And, like, you know,
Speaker:the. The ex girlfriend
Speaker:always has that certain
Speaker:place. You know, there is
Speaker:that, like, you know, we know
Speaker:that Rufus and Lily have their history, and then
Speaker:there. And now we're seeing that. That crosses into
Speaker:Rufus's. Exactly. Or as his
Speaker:wife.
Speaker:>> Leif: So, like, what if
Speaker:Donald, uh, Trump liked our podcast? How would you feel
Speaker:about that?
Speaker:You don't have to answer that.
Speaker:>> Steve: I'd be like, why?
Speaker:What vibe are you getting from me?
Speaker:What reflecting do I need to do on
Speaker:me.
Speaker:>> Leif: I could see him being a big fan of the show.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um, yeah.
Speaker:Lyran
Speaker:women. Yeah, I
Speaker:could really see him being invented.
Speaker:That makes me. That creeps me
Speaker:out.
Speaker:>> Leif: So small spoiler, uh,
Speaker:Ivanka truck. But does make a, uh, cameo in season
Speaker:four.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, I mean, but this is, like, before. This is,
Speaker:like, free at Venice. Yeah, this is like. Yeah, this is when
Speaker:they, like, they're. They're famous, but they're. They're not in the
Speaker:politics yet. They're still. They're still New York Democrats.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Hanging out with the Clintons.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um. Um, so, yeah, anyways,
Speaker:sidetrack.
Speaker:Um, so Chuck is back at his suite
Speaker:and discovers. Discovered he has been
Speaker:robbed.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yep. The baseball. And was it a glove,
Speaker:too? Baseball.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, and it was just a really fancy watch.
Speaker:>> Steve: A watch stolen out of
Speaker:it.
Speaker:>> Leif: He locked it in the drawer.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: But somehow someone still thought stole it.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And it was this Babe Ruth, uh, called shot
Speaker:ball.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:As a baseball fan, that's got to.
Speaker:>> Leif: Be worth quite a bit.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Like, that's.
Speaker:Like, that's. That's
Speaker:a beautiful piece of memorabilia, as you know, just
Speaker:for the love of baseball and everything. Yeah.
Speaker:Although I. I love. I love
Speaker:Daniel Tosh's take on Babe Ruth, that Babe
Speaker:Ruth was breaking records before black people could play the sport.
Speaker:So where's his asterisk trip?
Speaker:>> Leif: I don't think he's the first one to make that joke,
Speaker:actually.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, no. He's the person that I heard say.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, so
Speaker:Nate is playing poker with carter. Carter, uh,
Speaker:really wants Nate to continue playing for some.
Speaker:Some reason. I wonder why.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's really pressuring
Speaker:him to stay in the game where Nate was like, this is fun. I
Speaker:had a good time, and then. And I think
Speaker:Nate.
Speaker:>> Leif: The adventures, just about the star man.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And I think Nate is
Speaker:realizing that
Speaker:something's not right.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, I don't think it's clicking yet. I don't think it's. That's. That's not
Speaker:the scene.
Speaker:>> Steve: Well, he's on. I mean, he's uncomfortable. You know, he's clearly
Speaker:uncomfortable.
Speaker:>> Leif: I mean, he's ready to go home. He's like, okay, I
Speaker:want some. Um, it's that the smart play is to leave
Speaker:while you're up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Nate is really bad with
Speaker:peer pressure. Yeah. Nate doesn't know how to
Speaker:handle, you know? I mean, he
Speaker:only spoke up to his dad for the first time recently,
Speaker:so Nate doesn't know how to handle.
Speaker:>> Leif: He's malleable.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. He. And he doesn't know how to say.
Speaker:>> Leif: No to his friends, and I think Carter knew that.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And targeted Nate from the very beginning.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:>> Leif: And, uh, then we see Blair shows up at the photo
Speaker:show and is devastated to see she
Speaker:was replaced by Serena. They have a huge argument,
Speaker:and Dan accidentally overhears the confrontation.
Speaker:More moon river place.
Speaker:>> Steve: Mhm. And,
Speaker:like, how do you say, like, yeah, your
Speaker:mom tricked me into replacing you.
Speaker:Like. Like, how
Speaker:fucking disgusting. Like, she lies to her daughter
Speaker:and lies to her daughter's friend.
Speaker:In a way that it's like, how do you. Where.
Speaker:To what end? What to what end? Are you
Speaker:lying? When do you not realize. How do you not
Speaker:realize that it's going to take one
Speaker:conversation, you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: So. But
Speaker:is Serena oblivious, or is she
Speaker:willfully dumb?
Speaker:>> Steve: I mean, the whole thing about the test, the test
Speaker:shoots, you know, they wanted to do some test
Speaker:shoots while we waited for you. It's
Speaker:a good. It's a good reason to be up there. Uh, but I
Speaker:also think that
Speaker:Serena loves the
Speaker:attention, despite wanting
Speaker:to get away from the attention. You know what I mean?
Speaker:Like, she. She doesn't like what the
Speaker:attention has brought her, but also
Speaker:can't not have the attention.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, but, you know, in all fairness,
Speaker:Serena does immediately confront Eleanor,
Speaker:and, uh, she asked, you know, why she
Speaker:didn't tell her the truth and then quits.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Quits right then in there and walks. Walks
Speaker:off. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And we. Course, we get. We get another scene
Speaker:of, uh, Dan not being
Speaker:recognized.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: By Eleanor.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But they. They
Speaker:hadn't met before, though, had they?
Speaker:>> Leif: No, they hadn't met, but, yeah, but, yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Just another funny, though. Who are you? Yeah, who are
Speaker:you?
Speaker:>> Leif: What are you doing?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker:don't know.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, yeah, because, like, there's, like, a bunch of people at the shoes.
Speaker:Like, it'd be plausible that she wouldn't recognize every
Speaker:person there.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: But specifically him.
Speaker:>> Steve: Right. This guy stands
Speaker:out as being out of place. Yes.
Speaker:Like, so many people could easily sneak onto a photo
Speaker:shoot probably if they were dressed right, you
Speaker:know? But this guy does not belong.
Speaker:>> Leif: M. Um, and that is the end of
Speaker:act three. So we're going to go ahead and get into the
Speaker:epilogue.
Speaker:Um, back in the dressing room, Dan and
Speaker:Serena have a conversation.
Speaker:Dan, as usual, is quick to judge, but
Speaker:the scene ends with Dan staring dumbly at the wall
Speaker:after Serena explains what really happened before
Speaker:peacing out.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Dan.
Speaker:Dan, let's. Dan, let's have a conversation.
Speaker:Cause, dan, you gotta. You gotta be on your. Chill
Speaker:a little bit. Cause. Cause, like, you
Speaker:jump to conclusions way too quickly,
Speaker:let people give you a conversation, and then make your
Speaker:judgment. But, dude, just chill
Speaker:a little bit. A little bit. Thank you,
Speaker:Dan.
Speaker:>> Leif: But, uh. Uh, and so I
Speaker:gotta give props to Serena here. Uh,
Speaker:she is very confident in her body that
Speaker:she's at. You know, 16 year old is able
Speaker:to just, like, change, like, right next to someone she has, like, a crush
Speaker:on.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Props to her for confidence.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, she. Yeah. Well, and, you know, it's almost all
Speaker:you know, it's that theater kid kind of,
Speaker:you, uh, know, modeling theater kid.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker:>> Steve: And, like, you know, I remember
Speaker:being in. In high school when we didn't
Speaker:necessarily, we had, you know,
Speaker:boys and girls areas to change, but there
Speaker:were many quick changes, many things like that, that it would
Speaker:just be, you know, clothes flying
Speaker:everywhere to get that change done. And there
Speaker:was always this rule of, like, we're not here
Speaker:to, you know, check
Speaker:each other out. Like, this is business. We are getting change. We are
Speaker:walking out there. You never saw business. So,
Speaker:like, I can understand that confidence because she's
Speaker:probably been around that a lot of, like, yep,
Speaker:I change. I change when I need to change because
Speaker:this is how I've, you know, this is just part of
Speaker:being in this kind of realm. Mm
Speaker:hmm. But it does take a. But that
Speaker:realm takes confidence. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, Dan goes and sits next to Blair, and they
Speaker:have a heartfelt moment. They bond over their
Speaker:shared parental abandonment issues.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. This is a fantastic scene.
Speaker:Um, it's the first time that we
Speaker:actually hear Dan
Speaker:talk about his relationship with his
Speaker:mom and his anger towards her
Speaker:and how he
Speaker:doesn't like her very much right now,
Speaker:doesn't like her behavior right now
Speaker:and feels abandoned by her
Speaker:and mistreated by her. And
Speaker:it's not the same thing that Blair is
Speaker:going through, but it is a similar thing
Speaker:that our moms aren't giving us what we
Speaker:need. And it's a great moment between the two of
Speaker:them where, you know, Blair
Speaker:was so humbled in the previous episode
Speaker:that in this episode, once again,
Speaker:she just, you know, she.
Speaker:She's able to have that kind of emotional connection
Speaker:with someone she doesn't like. You know, when you walk in, it's
Speaker:like, oh, great, you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: But they. They both let their guard down, that scene, I think.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. They. And then. And it's a really great
Speaker:moment, both of them.
Speaker:>> Leif: I agree, as definitely, uh, the scene of the
Speaker:episode for me.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, and then, um.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, I also. This whole time,
Speaker:you know, Blair, we've talked about how Blair
Speaker:is always dressing for power, and this
Speaker:whole scene, I felt like she was muted. Her
Speaker:outfit was muted. Her.
Speaker:She was wearing, like, that blue. It was very
Speaker:similar to what her mom was wearing. The pattern on. On. It
Speaker:was similar to what her mom was wearing in black, but it
Speaker:was very muted and very.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, the whole scene was actually very muted. The color
Speaker:was very. Is definitely washed out. Like the color.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, very much. Yeah. It's like a white hallway,
Speaker:and it was. It was like. It was red,
Speaker:white, and black. You know, it was the
Speaker:way.
Speaker:>> Leif: The way you can really tell is Penn Badgley's
Speaker:lips look like purple.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, it's definitely tinted.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, clearly.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, so back at the poker game,
Speaker:uh, Nate is clearly in over his head. Uh,
Speaker:smooth brain. Nate finally realizes that Carter set
Speaker:him up. Just when it seems Nate is about to
Speaker:lose more than his wallet, Chuck steps in
Speaker:to save the day.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And so for the
Speaker:first time, Chuck, who. Whose
Speaker:stock has been plummeting for three straight episodes,
Speaker:three and a half straight episodes, because he was a.
Speaker:He was a dick throughout most of this one. In the
Speaker:first half of it, even when he was right, he was
Speaker:right in a. About being a
Speaker:dick, you know, like, he still
Speaker:sucks throughout the entire thing, but then he comes
Speaker:in, and, uh,
Speaker:I. You know, we. We have to point out that he did this for
Speaker:a bro. You know, we didn't see him
Speaker:defend. Defend. Uh,
Speaker:Blair, we don't know, you know, it. He
Speaker:would. I don't know that he would stick his neck out for women,
Speaker:but he stuck his neck out for his friend, and
Speaker:he also was like, hey, you have my ball. You
Speaker:have my watch. You keep it. I don't call the cops.
Speaker:We're walking out of here. And, like,
Speaker:he gave, like, again, that piece
Speaker:of baseball memorabilia to just be like, you have it.
Speaker:Keep it. Doesn't matter to me. Like, I'll
Speaker:buy it back when. I'll buy it back when you put it on auction,
Speaker:you know? Like, I'll get that ball back if I want it
Speaker:badly enough. I'm Chuck bass.
Speaker:And you actually see Chuck bass using his chuck
Speaker:bassian powers for the forces of
Speaker:friendship and not for evil
Speaker:destruction in his own penis.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes.
Speaker:Um, and so we get
Speaker:back at the photo shoots. They are scrambling to
Speaker:find Serena's replacement when Blair confronts her mother
Speaker:about choosing Serena.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And,
Speaker:you know, she. You know, she does come clean here, but
Speaker:it's like.
Speaker:>> Leif: And then she tries. They try. Did you catch. They try to give it
Speaker:back to her. They tried to,
Speaker:because they're scrambling to find.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, because Serena just quit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then she's
Speaker:like, no, fuck off.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: What's good for her.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's.
Speaker:It's sort of like that Nate moment from the week before that
Speaker:she, like, stands up to her mom, like, no, I'm not doing
Speaker:this. And, in fact, no one's
Speaker:doing this because we're going to steal all the clothes and
Speaker:do our own photo shoot around the city, which is also
Speaker:great.
Speaker:>> Leif: But at first, we actually see Dan, uh, finds
Speaker:Serena and brings her a piece offering from craft services.
Speaker:Uh, good throwback to earlier.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, they make plans for another date, and Blair
Speaker:shows some lukewarm approval for Dan. Uh,
Speaker:quaked upgrade from earlier in the episode, though.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. She was a little bit nicer about
Speaker:it. Yeah. Um, and,
Speaker:you know, I'm sure that a lot of that is that carryover from the
Speaker:earlier conversation that they had.
Speaker:>> Leif: He can date Serena, but, you know, gotta, you
Speaker:know, picture clothes up a little bit first.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. What's
Speaker:really funny is that, uh, when they stole the clothes and
Speaker:ran around doing their own.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes. That's the next scene. Yeah,
Speaker:yeah. Uh, so the next scene, which is the final scene of
Speaker:the episode, is Blair and Serena steal Eleanor's
Speaker:clothing and go off and have their own fashion shoot on
Speaker:the streets of NYC.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And the thing is, if they give those pictures to their mom,
Speaker:like, in that. In that point in time, like, that kind of
Speaker:shit, like, oh, seven, that
Speaker:was Facebook was just starting
Speaker:out putting that shit on, you know, social
Speaker:media, putting those pictures out, that's
Speaker:branding. Yeah. You know? Mhm. You know,
Speaker:here's high fashion that you can wear every day. Look
Speaker:at my daughter out having fun with her beautiful
Speaker:friend.
Speaker:>> Leif: You know, the only issue is
Speaker:I felt like the dresses didn't really were not
Speaker:fitted to them.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They.
Speaker:I.
Speaker:>> Leif: Maybe. Maybe that's just my lack of fashion knowledge, but it seemed like they
Speaker:were ill fitting to me.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, I don't think. Personally,
Speaker:I. I don't think Eleanor Waldorf
Speaker:is a really great designer. I don't know shit about
Speaker:fashion. I don't know. I really don't. But,
Speaker:like, I think Jenny is
Speaker:their designer.
Speaker:>> Leif: I'm like, what have we seen from Jennie
Speaker:so far?
Speaker:>> Steve: Haven't we? Uh, didn't we? Oh, I guess. No, I guess she bought that
Speaker:dress.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, she didn't buy it. She said she's got a. She was looking at a dress in the
Speaker:store, and she's got a copy at the fridge.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah. Because it looks better in black for the kissing the lips
Speaker:party. Yeah. So, yeah, her dress for the kisses and lips party
Speaker:would have been.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes. I mean, she was just copying someone.
Speaker:>> Steve: Else'S design, but, yeah, but still.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, definitely. Impressive.
Speaker:>> Steve: A better eye.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: A better eye than Elinor Waldorf.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes. Uh, but that is the end of
Speaker:our episode. Uh, so let's take a quick
Speaker:break and then get into some segments.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, we are back for some
Speaker:segments. Um, we're gonna do some
Speaker:episode grades. Ah, I think you went
Speaker:last, last week, so I will go first this
Speaker:time. Um, I
Speaker:am gonna go ahead and give this one
Speaker:a b plus.
Speaker:Um, just. We had the split
Speaker:storylines, so that kind
Speaker:of takes away. Um,
Speaker:but you got. But you do have some good scenes, so,
Speaker:you know, you got the great scene with Dan and Blair.
Speaker:Um, so I'm definitely eager to see more of them.
Speaker:I think they're two of the best actors on the show,
Speaker:so I want to see more scenes with them.
Speaker:Whether it's antagonistic or friendly,
Speaker:I think it can be good. Um, so I think that
Speaker:scene in itself brings it up a bit.
Speaker:Uh, we get Blair's, uh, moment where she finally tells her
Speaker:mom to fuck off. So that's good.
Speaker:But, yeah, again, it's just dragged down by the fact
Speaker:that Nate and Chuck are just completely separate
Speaker:from everyone else, and Jenny is not used at
Speaker:all. Really?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Jenny and Eric aren't in this episode. Yeah. Right. Like,
Speaker:they're. They're not even mentioned.
Speaker:They're not in it. We don't see them.
Speaker:Um, and you feel that
Speaker:I actually. I feel like I'm giving this episode
Speaker:a generous b minus,
Speaker:and because it was kind of a
Speaker:c for me on my word first watch through.
Speaker:But those moments with Dan and Blair
Speaker:and that Mo and the Chuck bass
Speaker:coming through, those things
Speaker:kind of boosted it. Some of the other, like,
Speaker:cinematic decision making and, like,
Speaker:the directing and the acting kind of boosted it a little
Speaker:bit storyline wise. It
Speaker:fell flat for me. The.
Speaker:The. We're going to have a competition on it at a
Speaker:photo shoot, and we're going to have a big bro weekend.
Speaker:Just. And it really didn't
Speaker:leave a good place for Dan in the episode.
Speaker:Yeah, it didn't leave much room for him. We
Speaker:get a little bit of character development from.
Speaker:From Rufus and Lily. We don't
Speaker:see the captain at all. We don't see
Speaker:Chuck's dad. I don't think. Um,
Speaker:we know. Yeah. Uh, so
Speaker:the only real parent dynamic, because
Speaker:we don't even see Lily interact with Serena,
Speaker:which, for the first time really starts
Speaker:to reinforce that they don't have a relationship
Speaker:because every other episode they've interacted, and
Speaker:Serena has tried to say that we don't, but
Speaker:now here we finally have them in their own
Speaker:worlds, independent of each
Speaker:other. Um, but, yeah, I
Speaker:just. There were a lot of. There are
Speaker:a lot. There was a lot of plot
Speaker:line stuff that fell flat for me.
Speaker:Um, that. So I'm
Speaker:giving it a b minus.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right. Uh, so moving on to stock
Speaker:watch. I, um.
Speaker:So for stock up, I have,
Speaker:um, unfortunately, Chuck,
Speaker:um, he, uh, came through in the end for his bro.
Speaker:Um, I think Serena and blair,
Speaker:just for the end scene, they get stack up.
Speaker:Um, but that's. I think it for me on
Speaker:stock up. How about you? Anyone?
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, so. So I felt like Dan and
Speaker:Blair's stock went up with. With that. With that moment
Speaker:in the end. Um, I feel like
Speaker:Serena's was kind of breaking even. No. No real
Speaker:movement. I also put Chuck in a
Speaker:breaking even category this week
Speaker:because. Or doing the right thing. He was still
Speaker:being chuck. Um, so
Speaker:I didn't actually have him going up, just breaking even.
Speaker:But Dan and blair are both.
Speaker:>> Leif: Dan. Blair up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Dan and Blair both went up.
Speaker:>> Leif: Okay.
Speaker:>> Steve: I think everybody else kind of broke.
Speaker:>> Leif: Even in that episode, so I
Speaker:hate to say it. Chuck, my least favorite
Speaker:character, goes up, and Dan, my
Speaker:favorite character, goes down.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, you have Dan going down? Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: I mean, yeah, he has the good. The great scene with Blair,
Speaker:but he was a dick to
Speaker:Serena.
Speaker:>> Steve: He really was. She did stand
Speaker:him up, though.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, I mean, she. She did, but she
Speaker:called him. I mean, things happen. I mean, the
Speaker:stuff happens.
Speaker:Um, I mean, it sucks,
Speaker:but, I mean, that's. That's not what he was
Speaker:addict to her about. I mean,
Speaker:okay, if he wants to, you know, kind of be a dick and
Speaker:blow her off after she stands him up, fine. But
Speaker:he was a dick for something. He didn't really understand there
Speaker:was his.
Speaker:>> Steve: Place to be, and he didn't even.
Speaker:>> Leif: Have the full story either.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, he didn't have the full story, and he didn't have any.
Speaker:Any position
Speaker:there. Like, uh, this isn't your. This isn't even your
Speaker:fight.
Speaker:>> Leif: And Nate stock goes down for.
Speaker:>> Steve: Just.
Speaker:>> Leif: For being a fucking idiot.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah, Nate
Speaker:stock went down, and I think that's the first time for
Speaker:me that Nate stock went down. But his.
Speaker:His pure is inability.
Speaker:And Nate's stock literally went down
Speaker:because he loses ten. He loses
Speaker:$200,000 because his trust
Speaker:fund is drained. Uh, because, you
Speaker:know, guess who you need.
Speaker:>> Leif: So since you brought
Speaker:that up, what do you think's going on there?
Speaker:>> Steve: Well, I mean, for one, I think it's.
Speaker:I think that the story he's going to say
Speaker:is you're going to fall in
Speaker:line or you don't get anything. But
Speaker:knowing that he's a finance guy, that is
Speaker:nerve. A nervous finance guy.
Speaker:I feel like that money is being
Speaker:invested in something that
Speaker:is a surefire guarantee
Speaker:that is really going to. Really going to. That's going
Speaker:to be the one that gets their family,
Speaker:like, on top.
Speaker:>> Leif: Okay.
Speaker:>> Steve: At least I think that's what the captain thinks he's doing.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, just to recap, so you have stock up,
Speaker:Dan and Blair and anyone else?
Speaker:>> Steve: No, just Dan and Blair.
Speaker:>> Leif: Stock and down. Nate.
Speaker:>> Steve: Nate. And if we're looking at parents,
Speaker:Eleanor. I mean, Eleanor is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Actually, I'm going to add her to mine. Uh, she's definitely down.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, she's. She's
Speaker:awful. Yeah, the two of them are both
Speaker:down.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, um, so we're going into best
Speaker:outfit, and I'm actually going to
Speaker:go outside the box on this one. I
Speaker:went with Laurel. Oh,
Speaker:her outfit at the fashion shoes, she had, like, a
Speaker:black dress, uh, with tight, uh,
Speaker:at the waist with a black belt with, like, a big, nice big
Speaker:brass. Ah, not a brass buckle, but black. It was, like, all
Speaker:black. She had all black outfit and
Speaker:including black glasses. Black rimmed
Speaker:glasses. And her hair was, like, tied
Speaker:back with a black, uh, like, headband or not a headband,
Speaker:but it's like a tie.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, like that. Um. Um,
Speaker:for me, it was Katie's
Speaker:outfit when they were in that
Speaker:scene where, um, they were
Speaker:all hanging out and she was teaching the pop and all
Speaker:that. She was wearing, like, this gray. I don't even
Speaker:know if it was pajamas or if it just looked like.
Speaker:It looked like the border between, like, pajamas and,
Speaker:like, regular clothes.
Speaker:But it was just really caught my attention, especially because it
Speaker:was, again, being used as.
Speaker:As background, almost as. As set
Speaker:dressing in the way that she was portrayed in
Speaker:the scene.
Speaker:>> Leif: And I'm not picturing it, but I'll definitely take
Speaker:a look when I go back and snap it for, uh, Instagram. I
Speaker:screenshot it.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, I really loved it.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, um, so that is it for the
Speaker:segments. Uh, we're going to go ahead and just get into some
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Speaker:>> Leif: And then join us in two weeks when we, uh, break
Speaker:down the season one, episode five
Speaker:titled Daredevil.
Speaker:>> Steve: You're gonna catch that one.
Speaker:>> Leif: Until next time, you know you love us.
Speaker:Xoxo.