In this absorbing episode, host Jill interviews Phillip Bramwell, an up-and-coming coach with disabilities. Phillip aims to challenge people with disabilities and those that engage with them, to reflect on and improve the lives and services for disabled individuals.
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Hi and welcome to the You World Order Showcase podcast.
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Today we are speaking with Phillip Bramwell.
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Phillip is an up and coming coach who wants to challenge people with disabilities and businesses, slash schools to reflect on and improve the lives and services for people with disabilities.
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Philip himself has disabilities and he's here to share his story.
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And what he's doing to be the change he wants to see in the world.
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But he's really kind of blazing the path on 2.
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Fronts and we'll.
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Get into that with him.
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So welcome, Philip.
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We're really happy to have you on the show today.
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Hi, Jill.
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Thank you so much.
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For having me, I really appreciate.
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it.
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So tell us your.
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Philip, what got you started into this?
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Sure. So my name is Philip. I'm age 25. I currently reside in Tempe, AZ and I was born with cerebral palsy. So I was born with a brain injury due to severe premature birth.
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I had like brain bleeding, so that resulted in permanent brain damage.
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And so as a result, I'm in a manual wheelchair full time to get around.
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I'm not able to walk because I don't have any balance, but that's why I'm in.
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The situation that I'm in and as a result, it's fostered this business that I have.
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At the moment.
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And you were telling me that you work as a pedia, in Pediatrics?
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Tell us about your day job, because this is.
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Kind of connected to all of these other pieces.
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Yes, Jill.
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So for now, coaching is my coaching consulting.
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It's my side business.
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I have a day job and that is I do customer service.
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Medical customer
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Service and so basically I'm the complaint department of my company.
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So I hear a lot of parents are complaining or sharing their negative feedback, usually about their experience in the doctor's office.
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So that is my day job and it's kind of complementary actually to my side biz, but this idea, but that is my day.
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Job at the.
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I was just going to say it, it seems the reason I wanted you to mention that is because it really plays into what you're trying to do and it gives you a unique advantage to understand what these parents are going through of kids with disabilities that are approaching medical facilities.
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And that's one of the two prongs that you're looking at.
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For helping people in the world and in and coaching in.
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Coaching specifically, so tell us.
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A little bit about your ideas.
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Around approaching medical professionals.
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So for educating medical professionals.
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My angle is to encourage medical professionals to teach their disabled patients and their families how to be aware of their.
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Problems in their diagnosis.
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That way they can teach patients to be more proactive in their healthcare and to be more to advocate better when you're in the doctor's office.
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So I I've done a few presentations about.
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That in regards.
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To being a disabled patient, and because I actually was a child with a disability, I survived my whole childhood.
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I having a disability.
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I think that.
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Adds tremendously to.
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My credibility with what I what feedback I give.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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And you you've come so far really
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I mean, it's pretty remarkable that you're setting out to do something.
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To be the change you want.
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To see so when it comes to.
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You were.
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You were talking a little bit before the show about how you had to interact as an adult much earlier on.
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You want to talk about that?
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A little more.
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Ohh yes, so I was.
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Born, born disabled as I was saying I was so I never have.
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I don't have any able bodied experience on this Earth and so my early childhood.
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You spend a lot of time in therapy and.
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This is and so I have to miss birthday parties and different activities that non disabled children get to do and so we're around medical professionals a lot and so they're using medical terminology and they're making a.
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They're some of them are starting to teach us.
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How to handle our problems.
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And to advocate for ourselves.
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So that's what I mean when I say I.
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Have to act like a.
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Like in adults at an early age like we were like my population, we're not really, you know, talking about the wiggles or about, you know, the Sesame Street we're talking about.
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Ohh my hip is about to pop out of my socket and we're.
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And we're four years old, so.
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That's what I mean.
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by we had to behave and interact like.
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We were adults.
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From a young age.
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And then tell us about the interaction that you experienced with other able bodied adults who aren't really familiar.
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With you. How
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Does that interaction look?
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Ohh so I describe myself because I've been disabled my whole life. I'm 25 so I describe myself as a professional disabled person at this point with my level of experience, you know, at being disabled for a long time, it doesn't get recognized.
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In the professional world.
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It's like, you know, credible, credible experience TV.
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'S in a professional.
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Way, but because I've learned so many different things when I was a young child, now my interactions were are able bodied adults.
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They're pretty smooth because I already know to be proactive that I have to be the teacher on a lot of the time and I just have to be.
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Acting like I know what I'm talking about and to be smooth with my interaction.
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So you're also the second prong of what you were looking to accomplish is to help disabled.
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People be more self aware.
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You want to talk a little bit about that?
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So part of being a disabled child like I was saying is you have to behave like an adult.
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And part of the reason why that has to occur is because the act, the people that are actually of adult age, sometimes they don't know what to do just because somebody's 18 or older. It doesn't automatically mean that they know how to handle your disability. So
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We had to, so we had to.
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Pick up the.
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Slack, even though we were young and we had to.
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Behave like an adult, so when I say I want to teach disabled children how to be more proactive.
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Well, what I really mean by that is.
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I have to teach them how to.
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Interact like an adult, even when they're young.
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And so that's what I mean by.
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When I say that.
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So it's easier to help the disabled person understand how to interact with an able person, then try to teach the whole able population how to help somebody.
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Yeah, that that's correct.
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A lot of the
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Is because we're.
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The disabled population.
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We're the largest minority.
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So we're still a minority.
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Group, so there's fewer, fewer disabled people.
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Than there are.
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Non disabled and so it's easier, right?
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Rapidly changing though.
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And where in the
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aging population.
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So it's the population is changing, but it's easier to teach a disabled.
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A person how to interact with the able body rather than an able body to interact with disabled person.
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Yeah, I could see that.
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And they're more motivated because they're the ones that are trying to get things done and running into and running into obstacles.
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Yeah. Yes.
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That's correct. That's good.
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That's correct.
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So what are your ideas about getting
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These different prongs of coaching going.
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What do you what do you think your?
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So for interact, for coaching like the disabled children, the.
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The issue there is more straightforward, it's.
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It would be.
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Their parents that have to pay for.
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The you know for the coaching sessions.
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So that's more straightforward.
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Just they need help, but a lot of disabled families, including my family, when I was a kid and they don't have that extra.
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That income, that extra income available to, to pay for coaching, so it's more straightforward in that regard for the teaching medical professionals, in my opinion, my biggest challenge at the moment is getting organizations.
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And companies to recognize.
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With that, my contributions are just as credible, if not more credible, than a person with a traditional MD.
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Or a.
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DPT doctor physical therapy.
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You know there that my credentials are.
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My life experience, and as I was saying, I'm 25 and I have 25 years of disability experience
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So that in a right now in the professional market that's not backing up like if I put that on my resume like people don't think that seriously. Ohh, you have 25 years of.
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Experience, but they should take that serious and that's.
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It's navigating all the medical facilities, all the government funded things that are available to disabled people, but it's really hard to take advantage of any of these programs.
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There's like so much you have to do.
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Right, absolutely.
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So that's why I feel and I know that my experiences are just as credible, if not more, than the person that had to go to school.
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And if I didn't have a disability?
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I would go I.
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Would probably go to school and learn their way.
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Learn that way as well, but I'm playing the cards that I have to the best of my ability, and that also includes trying to monetize my cards in one way or another.
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And you do would definitely have a gift to share with the world.
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And I think what you're doing is pretty amazing.
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Ohh thanks. Thank you Jill.
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So what's the one thing you want to share with the audience that you hope they take away from this conversation?
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I want.
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I want people to.
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Take away that just because of, you know, I didn't go to medical school or I didn't go to physical therapy school or any of these traditional academic.
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Institutions to learn about medical problems or disability.
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That my life experience in the reverse of that being the patient in those kind of venues is just as credible as.
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As someone that.
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Had to go to school to obtain those.
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Credentials and that knowledge.
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So I hope that's what people can do with take away.
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Probably even more so because you actually have.
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Your own experience, and I find that with.
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A lot of coaches, they experience.
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Something and overcome it.
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And then they do well as they.
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Share that with others which
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Seems to me what you're trying to do.
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So one of the one of the barriers that I'm sure a lot.
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Of coaches face is.
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People don't view.
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People are being coaching and like we made the mistakes for you.
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We suffered for you, so you know.
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So you don't have.
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To suffer, right?
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But part
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Of that is, we want to be compensated fairly for that, for that sacrifice that we all have to make to get the knowledge that we have.
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And so I want people I would like people in the professional market to recognize our sacrifice and that it's worth value.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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So how can people get in touch with you?
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I know you have Instagram.
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So at the moment I'm on Instagram and YouTube, it's both the same handle. Philip Bramwell, coach. So my first name, last name and the word coach, COACH Phillip and Bramwell B as in boy R.
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AM as in Mary WELL.
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Perfect.
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We'll be sure to put those links in the show notes below.
