Delma and Shadiin take care through the latest wave of COVID as they dive deep into a debate on cultural appropriation, especially around who is capable of appropriating based on where whiteness is present and how systems of power really work. Environmental justice leader, Vernice Miller-Travis, founder of WE ACT for Environmental Justice and Executive Vice President alongside Shadiin at Metropolitan Group.

Vernice is one of the nation’s most respected thought leaders on environmental justice and the interplay of civil rights and environmental policy to build a social movement that is rooted at the intersection of race, environment, economics, social justice and public health. She was a contributing author to the landmark report “Toxic Waste and Race in the United States” and was awarded the Robert Bullard Environmental Justice Award by the Sierra Club.