What if becoming a true spiritual warrior has nothing to do with winning battles—and everything to do with surrendering the need to fight?
In this episode of Spirit Sherpa, Kelle Sparta explores one of the biggest paradigm shifts on the spiritual path: moving beyond the identity of the warrior who constantly struggles and into the grounded confidence of someone who trusts themselves, trusts the Universe, and no longer needs to prove their worth through conflict.
Drawing on personal stories, client experiences, and decades of transformational work, Kelle explains how childhood trauma often creates the "knight in shining armor" mindset, why so many spiritual practitioners become trapped in rescuing others, and how true mastery comes from cultivating inner safety rather than external control. She also discusses boundaries, manifestation, spiritual guidance, money mindset, surrender, and the surprising ways our ego keeps us locked in unnecessary battles.
Whether you're a healer, coach, empath, intuitive, or simply someone who feels exhausted from trying to control every outcome, this episode offers practical wisdom for stepping into a more peaceful, empowered way of living.
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Note: Inner Peace 101 referenced in this episode is now called Welcome to the Woo.
Hello, and welcome to Spirit Sherpa, the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. I'm Jules, your co-host. Now, if you're a beginner to this type of work, go ahead and start at episode one. If you're more of an intermediate, you can start with episode 98, and if you're a full-blown advanced student, well, go ahead and start with episode 200.
With me as always to share her insights and her wisdom is the spirit doctor herself, Kelle Sparta. Hello, Kelle. How is your day going? Hey, Jules. It's going pretty well, actually. How is yours? Oh, well, you know, if I'm down to only needing three of me, so- ... this is a good day, as, as opposed to needing 10 of me.
I only need three of me, so I'm doing good. I hear you. So, yes. I do, yes. But it is hot. It's hot. It's ridiculously hot. So I have a f- That's because you live in an oven. Yeah, yeah. So I have a funny for you. Yesterday, um, a huge, huge storm system came through. Can't even make this up. It's like, okay, here's the little dot of where we are.
It went around where we are, bringing rain to everybody else. We had a fabulous lightning show, but no rain. So I still had to water my plants, and I'm looking at my plants going, "I'm sorry, the, the, the rain dudes just didn't wanna come hang out." You know, they had no rain for us. E- everywhere around, but not here.
So I was out there watering, watering my plants, and it just went right around. And I'm like, "Guys, can you give me a little rain?" They're like, "Nope." Not today. Not today. No rain for you. No rain for you. Exactly.
There we go. It never fails Nothing like sharing, babe. Hey. That's it. So, but I hear you got your package from Romi Apothecary. I did. It was so cute. It was so cute. You gotta tell me all about it, 'cause mine hasn't arrived yet. This is the wonder of living in Panama, is that, you know, it gets shipped to the place that, that collects it, and then it goes on the boat once a week, and then the boat takes a week, and then they take a few days to figure out whose stuff is where, and so I won't see it for another week and a half.
Okay. Well, let me tell you about this little package. So cute. So okay, you know how you normally get, like, the UPS boxes to ship stuff in, right? That's what I was expecting. Yeah, not so much. The box has the Romi Apothecary, um, logo on it. It's, like, her own shipping box. Okay, how cool is this, right? And so when you open it, um, it has all, all about her company, and then everything is individually wrapped, v- like, seriously very carefully.
Like, this rolled, wrapped in tissue paper, and then even the little tape around the tissue paper has her f- like, Roma Co- Romi Apothecary with her little, you know, uh, her, her name on it and her brand. Her logo. And... Her logo. Thank you. Can't think right now. I was so excited. And so there's oils, and there's, um, which is, it's interesting on her oils.
So Mitch works outside all day, right? And so his hands get dry as all, like, uh, crocodile skin. Well, when I put the oil on it, and I was like, "Hey, got some new stuff. We're gonna try this. We're gonna have a beauty night," he was like, "Oh, God." So tried him on it. Every man's really excited about that. And so I put it on his skin.
It absorbed into his skin, but it did not leave any kind of residue. It was not oily. It was not greasy. It was just moisture. And I was like, "What?" Yeah. And she had ChapStick in there that was... It, it was like a little green kinda ChapStick, and it was really, really nice. And as, you know how when you put on some kinda ChapStick, it's like and, like, everything's sticking to your lips?
Yeah, not so much. It, it, it felt not like lip gloss, but like really luxurious type of something on your lips. It wasn't like lipstick. It wasn't like lip gloss. It was like something in between. And there's some little cards in there, you know, about all the company and their mission and what they do and all that.
It was so lovely packaging. It was really high-end packaging, and so much love and care that went into it. I was seriously impressed. Well, and it sounds like it was high-end product, too, so, you know. Yeah, consistency throughout. We love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so y'all go check out Romy, Romy Apothecary. It was in episode 318, which is when we, when sh- we had her on.
So y'all go check that out. Yeah. We did a bunch of coaching for her. So yeah. So thanks, Romy. Absolutely. Thank you. That was, that was awesome. That was very, very cool. Yeah, I can't wait to get mine. So okay. So today we're gonna talk about becoming a spiritual warrior and giving up the battle. Yeah. No. I don't wanna give up...
Why am I giving up a battle? I am the battle queen, right? I am battle queen. I am ready for a battle. Hooah. Yes.
Hooah. I'm gonna do my haka dance. Yes. Right? Exactly. Yeah. So if I do that- Yeah ... with the smoke in the air, I start coughing nowadays, but-
Won't sound so intimidating that way. Yeah. But yes, I'm like, f- okay, badass spiritual warrior, right? Yep. I don't wanna give up on- Well, you're a badass warrior But yeah Spiritual warrior, not badass in that way. God dang it. But yeah. Yeah. Okay, so, so why am I giving... Okay, so what's a s- what's a difference, uh, what's a spiritual warrior, and then what's a battle plan so I can actually win the war?
If I have to give up a battle, I wanna wear the war. That's the paradigm shift, okay? This is, these are paradigm shifts that we're dealing with here, right? I mean, it's not, it's not about... We, we, we cling onto these identities, right? You know, and, and, you know, not everybody who listens to this podcast is gonna be like, "I'm not, you know, I'm...
I don't identify as a warrior." I will tell you I was seriously my warrior. How, how do you think I got the last name Sparta, for God's sake? I took it as a last name when I divorced my ex. I was just like, "I am Sparta," right? And you know, I did. You shoulda seen the judge when I went before him to not go back to my maiden name, but instead to go to Sparta, which had been a pen name for me in college.
You should have seen, this guy was, like, in his 80s, and he's looking at me going, "Are you trying to get away from your, your creditors?" I'm like, "No, I pay my bills. What are you talking about?" And he's like, "Why are you changing your name? Are you trying to get away from somebody who's stalking you?" "No, I just, I'm, I don't wanna go back to the naive girl I had been when I got married, and I don't wanna keep his name because I divorced him for a reason.
And so I wanna move on and then have a new name." And he was just like, "I don't, I don't understand, but you're not doing any of the things that would keep me from saying yes, so okay." And he signed it. So, but you know, it was, it was funny. It was really funny. And, but I was really into my warrior, right? And we, we, uh, you know, there are stages that you go through when you've been in, in childhood trauma, right?
You, you may hit damsel in distress. Uh, you may live there for a while, and that's when you need to go to therapy because if you're in damsel in distress, you're, you've gone into victim mode, and getting out needs therapy, right? Or you may be in the next layer, which is knight in shining armor, which I also refer to as warrior mode, right?
Dun, dun, dun. It's knight in shining armor mode. Dun, dun, dun, here I come to save the day. Save the day. Right? I can't save myself, but I will save you, right? Yes. That's, that's knight in shining armor mode. Yes, it is. I don't know how to save myself, but I can put myself- But I'll save you ... in harm's way for you, right?
Yes. Yes. I will take the brunt because that's all I know how to do, right? Yeah, that's, that's knight in shining armor mode. And, uh, and, and, you know, you, you step into a, a more- Mature, I think is the right word, version of warrior when you stop looking for the battle, right? So there's another layer. So the knight in shining armor goes to find the battle.
They will, they will invest in people who they don't even know, right? They'll see a stranger getting abused on the street, and they'll step in front of the, the, the line of fire and be like, "I will protect you," right? Um, and, and that's the knight in shining armor mode. It's like, "I'm Dudley Do-Right," you know?
"I will make it," you know. Yeah. And, and, and then the next layer... Because they go, they go looking for the fight to prove that they are worthy of, you know, being seen as the savior or the, you know, the, the good one, the, you know. It's, it's about externalizing your value, right? It's about m- making yourself valuable to others, whether they asked you to or not.
And that's part of the challenge of being in the knight in shining armor is that oftentimes you were not asked and not necessary, right? But I'm still gonna save you from yourself. You were the necessary. I don't wanna look at myself. Let me save you. Yes. Nuh-uh. Mm-mm. Yeah, mm-mm. No, that's too hard, right? And, and we say this with love because we've been there, okay?
That's all I'm... That's all been, okay? I was there for many moons. Yes. Yeah. I kept bringing home projects. I... Yeah, I was the queen of I will save you. I, I stepped in front of things that I should not have stepped in front of many times, and it's just by dumb luck that I didn't g- whacked upside the head, sometimes literally.
So, but the next layer of that is the grizzled warrior approach, which is, you know, somebody comes... You know, it's the... The young buck is the, the knight in shining armor. "I wanna prove myself. I wanna prove myself. I'm..." You know, "Come on, fight me. Let me prove myself," right? And then you get to the grizzled warrior stage where they're like- Really?
Do we really have to do this? Can't we just have a beer and have a conversation? Let's just, let's just, you know, let's just hang out. Do we really need to do this? And they're like, "Yes, we really need to do this." And the warrior goes, "Okay," whack, and goes back to his beer, right . You know, that's, that's the grizzled warrior approach.
And as you get older, you know, that, that is where you tend to go because you get tired because you've seen enough battles and you're like, "I'm not borrowing other people's shit anymore, but if it, shit comes on my doorstep, I will whack it," right ? It's like, if you, if you make my life miserable enough that, that whacking you is less painful than not whacking you, then I will whack you
You know, that's, that's the, that's the grizzled warrior approach, right? And then that's where you can step from there into spiritual warrior, right? And spiritual warrior... So, so the reason the grizzled warrior doesn't rise to the bait is because they know their skill, okay? They know that they are capable and that they're gonna be able to whack the person and be done.
They just don't want to because they remember what it was like to be that person, and they know it hurts when you get hit. And they have compassion for that, right? They're like, they're like, "Oh, come on, you know? Why don't you just sit down and let me impart some wisdom instead of im- imparting some experience," right
You know, you have a choice: wisdom or experience. Please take the wisdom because it's less effort and le- for me and less pain for you, for you, right? That's, that's the grizzled warrior approach. Now, the, the spiritual warrior is, it's, it's another level unto that, okay? And the grizzled warrior is still trying to win the battle.
Even though he's trying to do it with the least amount of effort possible He's trying to avoid it, but then he knows he'll win it. And you guys have heard me talk about this on the spiritual side of things, which, you know, you gotta be the biggest bad in the room, right? If you're gonna win a spiritual battle, you've gotta be the biggest bad in the room.
You've gotta know that you're the biggest bad in the room. You don't actually have to always do it, right? In fact, often if you've done it enough times, you can just say, "Look me up, and then let's let this go," right? Just ask through the grapevine and figure out who I am because you really don't wanna go here, and I don't wanna deal with you today.
You know, if you make me deal with you today, I will make your life either cease to exist or make it very difficult to find all the pieces of yourself, so- such that it will take you a millennia to put yourself back together again. So how about we just not, right? And just have a beer instead. And, and, you know.
Right. Let's just have... Yes, or, you know, tea. Tea. Whatever. Coffee. Whatever makes you happy, you know. Um, you know, a, a flagon of misery and upset if that's your thing, right? On the spiritual, that could be the case, right? Just say, "Thank you- But, um- "... thank you. May I have another?" Yeah. So, you know, when you're stepping into spiritual warrior space, I really- I- it's almost like you really need to let go of the warrior phrase on this.
I mean, it's there, it's an established phrase, but I think it's a misnomer because you're not really fighting anymore. That's the whole point. You're giving up the battle. You're recognizing that any struggle you're engaged in is with yourself because everyone around you is a reflection of you, because we are all one.
And so you recognize that if somebody's coming at your face, there's something in you that's causing that. And then you're like, "Oh, what, what is it in me that's causing that?" And you, you end up in curiosity rather than in defensive mode or rather than in managing mode where you're trying to keep them from doing what they're doing or whatever, right?
And you know, I have, I have some instances that have been brought to my attention, I think it's because of this episode. It's so funny because I've been sitting here going, "Why am I having these experiences?" Because I've had three people come at my face in the last week, and that never happens. Never. Like never happens.
And I've had three people in a week come at my face and the, and, and I was like, "What is going on?" And now I, now that we're, I forgot that we were doing this episode today. And I'm like, "Oh, this is so I have something to talk about." Because I did, I was doing some hard work on that too, man. I was like, "What is it that I'm fighting with internally that this is being reflected in me and blah, blah, blah?"
No. Spirit was just prepping me for the episode. Thanks, guys. Um- Yeah, thanks. And they have a sense of humor. Yeah. And they do have a sense of humor, yes. So, the, uh, but you know, I'll give you one example, right? There was a woman at karaoke, and she, her son came up like 30 minutes before the end of karaoke and was like, "I wanna sing."
And it's the first time he said anything all night, been there all night, didn't say a freaking word. And I'm like, "I'm sorry, I've already given away all the rest of the slots for the night." And she came up because one of the people who went up was the people who are there ev- you know, my regulars, right?
And, um, she started like, "I have a complaint." I'm like, "Okay." And she's like, "You should let new people sing. These are the people that we, I come here every week, and these are the people I see over and over and over again, blah, blah, blah." And I started to try and explain to her how the system worked. I said, "Look, you know, if he'd, if he had contacted me 20 minutes ago, I would've been able to get him in, no problem.
But I've already given away the slots. People came to me and asked, and I said yes, and I'm now full." I'm like, "I, I can't fix that short of putting him in and bumping somebody else I've already said yes to, and I'm not gonna do that." And she just wasn't... She wouldn't let me finish my sentences. She was so intent on yelling at me.
She just wanted to vent at me. So, you know, this became the thing, and I'm like, "What is your desired outcome on this conversation?" "Well, I just think you need to know." I'm like, "Oh, so you wanna tell me how to run my work? You wanna tell me how to do what I do?" "Well, no, but, but..." I'm like, "N- nope, that's exactly what you wanna do because, you know, that's what you're doing, and you're not actually trying to accomplish anything.
So what you wanna do is tell me what I'm doing wrong and abuse me, and I'm not available for that." Right? And she's like, "Oh, well, that's, you know..." I, I'm like, "Mm, yeah, it, it really is what you're doing." She's like, "Well, I'm never coming back." I said, "Well, if this is how you behave, I think that's probably wise."
And she was just like... You know, she's like, "I'm friends with the owner." And I'm like, "I don't care." I'm like, "I'm friends with the owner, too. How do you think I got the gig?" You know? Like, I was like, "Y- the owner's gonna look at you and say, 'Were you abusive to her?' Then you're gonna... You need to go," right?
That's just the nature of the beast. Now she's trying to tell you how important that she is and intimidate you because she's friends with the owner and He doesn't know that this is what I do for fun, not for work, you know? I'm like, this is my entertainment. This is not, you know, I don't need this job, right?
You know, it's not even a job. I just like, I don't need this. I, I can do something else with my time. This is not required of me. So you- you've got nothing to hold over me, right? There's, there's... And this is the thing. This is the piece, right? You've got nothing to hold over me. And even if there's a perception that somebody has something to hold over you, in your spiritual self, they never have anything, right?
Oh, they could, they could make me lose my job. Okay. Well, you'll get another one. The universe will take care of you. Oh, they could interfere with my relationship with my partner. Okay. Well, if your partner will allow that to happen, then they're probably not the right person for you. That would be correct.
Right. And you'll find another one, right? It, it, uh, there's... When you're in a state of balance, when you're in a state of internal safety, no threat that happens on the outside really matters. And if you have any questions about this, you should read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. He was a, a, a prisoner in the H- uh, I think it was Auschwitz, um, during the Holocaust.
And so, you know, he wrote this beautiful story about what it was like to own yourself in that sort of scenario, and that's kinda the worst case scenario that I can really think of. So if you can own yourself in that space, you can own yourself anywhere, right? So, um, the- This is about bringing yourself to a place where you are okay no matter what.
And so if something comes at your face, you don't have to pound it into the dust, you know? You can just look at the person and go, "Hmm, I'm not available for this." Right? And just be like, "Nope, don't need to do this. Thank you. I'm out." Right? Don't need to, don't need to have this conversation. And not I'm out like I'm, uh, like I'm running away.
It's I'm opting out of this communication, right? Like, I'm not available for this. Well, okay, and that's, that kind of goes in with, with the boundary that you had set. Uh, I'm, I'm assuming, 'cause you didn't tell me, but I doubt you, you have a boundary that, that would allow or have an allowance of people coming up and just, you know, smack talking you in the face.
To me, that would be like a boundary going, "No, you're not gonna verbally abuse me" kind of thing, right? And that's usually what they get is, "No." And 'cause they'll come at my face and go, and then I am like, "No." And they, it usually just, like, really takes them aback because I don't say anything else. I'm just like, "No."
And, and they just... You can see that they're visibly shaken because I do a little push of energy with it. I'm like, "You're trying to invade my field? No." I'm reinforcing, I'm not pushing you, but I am hitting the edge of my boundary that you've already crossed and shoving you back to where the end of my boundary is.
I'm not coming into yours. I'm not being aggressive. I'm just saying, "Uh, out." Right? And so that is a, you know, I'm just keeping myself solid, and I'm not allowing them to infringe upon that. It's like, "No, you will not verbally abuse me. You will not physically abuse me. You will not sexually abuse me. You will not abuse me, period.
This is not happening." And it's like, "Uh-uh, I give no permission for this." Right? So that's, it's just a, it's a solid boundary. It's not a push boundary. It's just a boundary. It's a sunk it into the ground, nothing freaking moves this thing boundary, right? Now, that's the external side. Let's talk about the internal side, because this is where things get complicated, right?
So I recently was doing some, like this morning, yay. My guides use these episodes to really work with me. Um, but I recently was working with a, um, a piece of work in my money field. And, um, I'm actually h- in conversation with a money coach about potentially doing a joint retreat together here in Panama.
And as part of the conversation, somewhere along the line she asked me a question that I can't remember now, but, um, it caused me to stop and look at my money stuff because, you know, it's opened up a lot from where it used to be, but it's not as open as I would like, right? And I was like, "Well, but I've done all this work," and I cleared a bunch of stuff, and I, I, you know, brought in a bunch of business, and all was good.
And then I was like, "What's going on?" And so I went and I looked, and I realized, so in my youth, in my 30s, I was very attached to the idea of doing it myself, figuring it out myself, you know, making the business go myself. So I got all the credit, right? I wasn't good at asking for help. I wanted the credit for figuring it out because I am smart and I will make it go.
For all my Star Trek fans out there, you're welcome. And I just quoted Star Trek. And, and, uh, I was attached to making it go. I was attached to getting the credit. I was attached to being able to say, you know, this is- Like getting that outside validation? Well, it's, it's outside validation, but it's also inside validation, right?
It was, it was about being able to say that I was smart enough to figure it out. I worked hard enough to make it go. You know, I, you know, it feels like a lot of it was in relation to my dad saying that I had no discipline and that I was gonna be a loser and all these other things, right? You know, so it was, it was very much about proving him wrong, right?
But that worked so well in my first marriage when I proved him wrong after I knew it was a nightmare f- six months in, and I stayed in for another six and a half years. But anyway, yeah, that was not wise. Anyway, the don't prove your parents wrong. Just live your freaking life. That's all I can tell you.
Okay. But I was in my 30s, I was very attached to proving him wrong. And so I... It was, it sat there in my field, right? And I am very smart, and I do figure things out, and I do make things go, and, you know, I am the queen of, you know, organization and structure and, you know, innovation and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
I'm, I'm good at all this stuff. You're a transformational shaman. Hello. But it's a limitation. But it's a limitation. It's a limitation. Because what I'm doing is I'm controlling it. I have to figure it out, right? I've gotta make it go. I've gotta know the path. What is it we say about manifestation? We provide the destination and the motivation.
The universe provides the navigation. What is figure it out about? It's about navigation, right? It's me doing the universe's job and then being frustrated when it's not taking care of me. It's like In the way you want, on the timeframe you want, in the manner you want, to the degree that you want, with a cherry on top.
Nothing like a little more control. Yeah. Just a little more control, right? Yeah. It's all good. And so this morning, when I, when I looked, I was like, "Oh, my God, that is still sitting in my energy field. It's still sitting there. I haven't really actively engaged it in years, but it's there in my field. And I never actually let go."
And so I went to let go this morning, and I literally had to use one hand to pry the other hand open to let it go, because it was so clenched so hard that it wouldn't let go on the energetic. I'm picturing this in my head, you standing there going, "Open, damn you. Open."
Yep. That's what it was. I'm a spiritual warrior, but I'm still gonna pry your ass open.
That's a spiritual warrior's job, is to do the work on yourself, right? There you go. Yes. That's it. So yeah, I had that, like, clenched hard in my fist. Mine, I will make it go. I will figure it out. And I wouldn't ask for help. I wouldn't ask for help, right? Because I was gonna figure it out, and I didn't want anybody to know I didn't know what I was doing.
It's like everybody doesn't know what they're doing. That's, that's the secret of life. I will tell you the secret of life. Nobody knows what the fuck they're doing, ever. They're just making it up as they go along. Like even those of us with lots of experience, every situation is different. I got lots of experience, but, you know, this situation is different than the 50 I've done before, so, you know, I could be wrong.
It's making it up as I go along with my knowledge of the past and, you know, what I'm assessing about the moment. And it's still making it up as you go along. It's informed making it up, but, you know, but I'm making it up, you know? Everybody makes it up as they go along. Don't think that anybody doesn't.
That reminds me of the old, of the old joke, hire a teenager while they still know it all. Ba dum tss. And that brings me to my next comment. Thank you for the segue. Oh my God. You don't even know that you made it. That's awesome. I had no clue. Um, yeah, my, my next statement is that, that, that our guides are there to help us, right?
They, we... And I've said this before in the, in the spirit guide conversations, but I'm gonna say it again because it bears repeating because people forget. But your guides are not your parents telling you what to do, and we often treat them that way. We're like, "Eh, I don't wanna do that. You don't make me do that.
I'm not doing that. Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh." Right? We act like they're our parents, and they're not. They're our partners. They are our support staff. We're doing the hard job of being on the planet, and they are the support staff trying to help us. And we are acting like spiritual teenagers when we go, "Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, I know better than you do and I'm gonna do this.
Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh." And, and just like a spiritual teenager, just like a real teenager doesn't have a fully formed prefrontal cortex, we don't have a fully formed psychic s- connection to the all that is. And so, you know, we rely on our parents when we're teenagers. Well, we rely on our guides when we're in this space, if we're smart.
If we're not smart, then we just, you know, ignore them and bump into walls and get clue bys fours to the forehead, and that's just how that works because, you know, we got nothing better to do, right? So all of this, right? So I'm just... I- if you're in the place where you're like F-U'ing your, your, uh, your guides, which I did many times, so I have a lot of compassion for it, stop it.
Stop it. They're just trying to help you. Just do what they tell you. Life is easier. It really is. Life is easier if you just follow the instructions. But, you know, for those of us who refuse to read instructions, you know, yeah, you can figure it out, and you can be stuck with a fist full of I'll figure it out 20 years from now and be sitting there trying to pry your own damn fist open like I did, or you can listen to me now and just stop trying to figure it out and let them tell you.
All of this.
So, so let me ask a question 'cause I'm dying to ask this. So one, I've never told my, my spiritual team, "Fuck y'all." So, 'cause I, I'm, I'm, I'm afraid they'll be like, "Really, bitch? Let me show you what that means."
And I'm like, "No." I... Mm-mm. So, so when, when you tell them that, as you have, and I'm sure there's, the, the, there's more people that, that, that do that, how do you like rebound from that? Do you go, "Oh, just kidding. Sorry"? Like, i- like, the- They don't care ... so they don't attach like, like, like, like the human, they, they don't do the human emotion like we do, right?
N- no. I mean, it's, it's, i- Do they ever get pissed off? They're in a different level. I mean, think about it. No. No, I've never had guides get pissed off at me. Okay. And I've done some shit, man. I've done some shit. Yeah, they don't get pissed off. Now, they will get insistent, which is, there's a difference. But you know, I mean, I have, I've had clients look at me and say, "Fuck you."
And I'm like, "And the horse I rode in on. I understand. It's okay." You know? I love you no matter what. You can tell me to go fuck myself and I, I, I'm okay with that, right? That, your guides are kinda like that, right? They, they understand why you're saying it, they understand where it's coming from, you know?
And, and they're like, "Yeah, all right. We'll, we'll wait. We'll be patient, and we'll send you another sign, which might be a little more insistent," right? So I, I f- I found this on Instagram. I'm looking for it now in case you're wondering what the hell I'm doing. Yeah. So- Send it to Victoria. And it... Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I sent it to Jen. I didn't send it to Victoria. Wait, wait, let me find it. And it was the best thing ever because it was like you're seeing this crystal ball with all of the, what's supposed to be like the spiritual guides around it, and they're like, "Okay." Oh, I think I've seen this one. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, "Okay, we've sent her two messages, we've sent her three favorite songs," whatever it is, all this stuff.
"Dude, how much you wanna bet she does exact opposite?" And, and one of them's like, "I'll take a, I'll take a $5 bet on that." He's like, "How much you bet, how much you bet that she's gonna do the exact opposite?" Yeah. Pretty much. That is so very true. Yeah. They have to have a drinking game up there on this stuff.
If they had alcohol, they would, yes. Yes.
It is like, "Okay, let's see what happens. Let's control the dice." Yeah. Yeah. "Hey, y'all, y- y'all ain't gonna believe the shit she's doing right now. Y'all come see this." That's right. Yeah. "Here, have some popcorn." Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much like that. Yeah. Uh, yeah. And see, like mine, they, they know, I mean, hello, they, have you met me?
I'm pig-headed. So- So l- No, really? No, really. Control freak much? So did, did I, did I tell you about me trying to buy years of service, about how, what a sense of humor that the universe has? I didn't tell you this. Okay, so I work, I work- Years of service? Y- yeah, so I work for the, the State of Louisiana. As a s- uh, civil ser- uh, civil servant, you know, uh, state employee, instead of working like, say I wanna retire like 25 years, right?
And then I wanna like buy some years so I can actually get credit for those years but not physically work those years, all right? So, like retire early but with full benefits, right? All right, so I'm not gonna give the real numbers, but, because, uh, then, you know... But let's just say, okay, I wanted to buy three years, and I have no clue how much this stuff cost.
I have no clue. So I'm like, "Okay, cool, got me some money set aside," whatever. And all right, so, and, and I send in my stuff, hey, pay the little 150 bucks to the actuarial dude, chick, lady, whatever, and get my stuff back. And for those three years, it's only gonna cost you $120,000. And I went And I'm like, "What?
We, what, i- is that in pesos? Is that in do- what, what, is that pennies? What are you d- what are you smoking?" And I'm going, "I c- y'all are missing a decimal point. Y- y- you put it in the wrong place." So I was so pissed off. I was so pissed off. Then I'm like, okay, and I'm venting and I'm venting. I'm like, "God bless them," blah, blah, blah, blah.
Next morning I'm like, oh. Oh, crap, now I know what this is. The universe had to make that number so ridiculously high and ridiculously ridiculous, because otherwise I would've tried to figure out a way to make it work. And I'm like, son of a gun, that's what y'all do. I'm like, okay, you're good. I got to admit, y'all are good.
Y'all, this is a way of y'all telling me, hold up, something, a w- a different little path is coming up that's gonna be better, right? I have no clue what that is, but they not gonna lead me down a wrong path. They're gonna give me what I want or better. And so that, this is just their way of telling me, hold on to your money.
So had I been a, "Oh no, I'm fighting with you, I'm gonna figure this out," we d- you know, been the, the young buck gonna go fight them and everything, or I guess even in that sense, the old grizzly one going, "Can't c- I don't wanna fight. Can't you just give it to me and make it work?" You know?
But they know better. Really? Really? Yeah. Really. So, and they had to do that 'cause they know how hard-headed I am. 'Cause I, I, I have been where, where... and I'm still where you are, grab- I can make this happen. Here's my invitation for you, and for anybody else who's listening who's resonating with this. What if you took hard-headed out of your self-definition?
What do I replace it with?
That was so cute. Oh my God, that was adorable. That was, that was the inner child going, "Well, what do I use then?" 'Cause- That's right ... headstrong is another one, but it means the same thing. Yes. Yes. What if you put it wi- what if you replaced it with, "I li- I, I live a charmed life. Everything works out for me.
The universe is always on my side"? Oh, I know that. Yes. Okay. I live a charmed life. Universe always has my back. It's gonna work out. Yeah. I think that's still the, the... Would that be my ego still kicking in there? The figure it out thing is an ego thing. It's a way of proving your worth, right? That was the other piece for me about the business, is that I wouldn't deserve the money if I hadn't figured it out myself, right?
That's another piece. Ooh. I just, I just felt that resonating everywhere. Okay. Right? And what if, what if that's w- what i- and we've talked about deserving, right? We've talked about deserving being imaginary. There's no such thing as deserving because we are all everything and everything is all us, therefore, we have everything and we, we are everything.
The, what is there to deserve, right? There's nothing to deserve, because we are. You know? It's, it, you are or you are not. There is no, no deserving that's relevant, not relevant, rather. Okay? So, um, but you know, it's in there, right? It's like, "If I didn't work for it, if I didn't figure it out, then I don't deserve it."
Well, who cares? Like, it's all mine anyway. It's all yours anyway. Might as well take it, right? If it lands on your doorstep, you know, at your feet, in your lap, take it. Yeah. Pick it up. Yes. Yes, please. Have some. Yes, have some. More please. Yes, indeed. Yes. Thank you, universe. More please. Exactly. Right? Still seeing my friend Melody going, "Wish for something else.
Wish for something else"- Wish for something else ... every time the, every time the manifestation happens, right? Wish for something else. It's clearly working. Let's go. Right? Yes, indeed. So- I love it ... but this is the thing, right? Is if you're trying to control it, if you're trying to figure it out, if you're trying to be worthy of it, if you're trying to be, like, you know, "Oh, I want, I want credit and validation for it," you know, all of these things are just blocks to having it.
You gotta give up the battle. You gotta stop trying to win and let the universe take you over the finish line. So stop fighting the universe. Stop fighting the universe. There you go. Stop fighting yourself. You are the universe. You are the universe, and the universe is you. We are all one. Yes. Have some.
That's my Kelleism for the day. Yes, have some. So, so, so Ro- so, uh, Rose, I hope I don't kill your name. Um, I- it's spelled C-O-L-O-R, so I'm gonna say Rose Color. Um, she suggested this topic. So Rose, honey, this is all for you. There you go. Thank you for the suggestion. And so if you are out there listening and you have a topic you would like us to cover, please send it in to [email protected], and we will make sure that it gets on the podcast.
Now, we do schedule these episodes several months in advance, so it may not be immediate, but, uh, it will get on the podcast. Yeah. And, and she suggested, um... I believe she submitted through the Spirit Sherpa chat group is, is how she did it. I think she did, yeah. So- Yeah ... so yeah, y'all. I post when I'm, when I'm about to do the next nine months worth of scheduling, I post in the group and go, "Help!"
Because, you know, we're f- we're over five years in at this point, and so, you know, topics are, are, uh, always a thing to come up with. That's, that's the hardest part of doing these episodes is, is, uh, coming up with the topics, to be honest, because, you know, five years in, we've talked about a lot of stuff.
But it, it's, it's cool, I think, when, when the listeners and all, they contribute, 'cause it's like, you know, a whole c- a collective of brains working together. And, you know, it's, y- you know, and I know you do this for the, the, the community, the collective, and so it's like, what do y'all wanna hear about? You know?
So that's very cool. Well, and oftentimes you'll ask me questions about things that I don't know anything about, and I have to go research them, and then I learn something, right? You know, I get questions from things. People are like, "Well, what about this?" I'm like, "Never heard of it. Let me go figure it out.
Let me go, let me go read about what it is," and, "Oh, okay, that's a different name for this," or, "Oh, that's, that's this." Me really dig in and, "Oh, yeah, okay, energetically that's this, which is half a turn from that. Okay, we can talk about these things," right? Yeah. So, you know, I, I learn when you guys ask me questions too, so thank you for that.
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You don't have to do any customer service. We do all of that for you. And all you have to do is market, sell, and deliver on your, your programs. And I also even certify you in how to do the energy scans that I do. And so if you've always been like, "Woo, energy scan," you know, the energy scan tells you where you are in your evolution and what the blocks are between you and the next step of your evolution.
I'm actually about to get an energy scan from one of my students in about twenty minutes right now because she's on her final exam for that. And so, uh, the final exam is to do an energy scan on me. And so I'm excited to, to hear what she has to say. No pressure, you know. And so, eh, yes, you know. So, uh, but you know, you learn how to do all of these things, and, and you learn how to make money while you're doing your marketing at the same time.
And so, you know, these, you know, the first student through the program has already closed his first deal, and he's, uh, you know, we just launched, and, um, he said that he is making twenty-five hundred percent more than he made before he started the program, and that was before he closed his first deal, so on, on the program.
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Come and, come and be part of the conversation, right? Yeah. Yes. Welcome to the woo, people. So- Welcome to the woo. Welcome to the woo. That's it, yes. Okay, and so yeah, I think, yes, have some will be my Kelleism for the day. I'm gonna just leave it at that. I'm not gonna do a different one. No, that'll work. So please, please like, rate, subscribe so that you can help us get known.
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