What happens when a genre-defying artist combines humor, introspection, and razor-sharp storytelling to create music that challenges conventions?

Aaron Lee Tasjan takes you on a ride through his bold artistic evolution, from bar gigs in New York to the Newport Folk Festival stage.

With reflections on authenticity, the creative process, and the complexities of modern Americana, this conversation is equal parts inspiring and thought-provoking.

Dive into the heart of Aaron's music to discover the deeper stories that make his songs unforgettable.

You'll also Discover:

Where Humor Meets Heart: Aaron’s Songwriting Secrets

The Compliment That Changed Everything

Behind the Lyrics of “I Love America Better Than You”

From Bars to Festivals: Aaron’s Wild Ride

Vulnerability: The Key to Great Music

Americana’s Role in Today’s America

The Songwriting Workshop That Left a Mark

Justin Townes Earle’s Unexpected Truth

Music That Unites: Aaron’s Vision

Why Authenticity Matters in Artistry

This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about the intersection of music, culture, and personal storytelling, as Aaron reveals the nuances of being a modern artist in the Americana world.

Learn more about Aaron's music and tour here: https://www.aaronleetasjan.com/

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I love America better than you her.

Dirty water and her hot dogs too Purple mountain tops jazz and soda pop I love America better than you I remember talking to Justin Townserl.

We used to both live in New York and we frequented this bar called 11th Street Bar.

I was playing in there from time to time.

He'd come by the bar one night and I walked out on the porch after my first set and he was sitting out there.

He said to me, hey, those are some good songs, man.

I said, oh, thanks, man, I'm a big fan of yours.

And he didn't even acknowledge that part of what I said.

He just said, and I'm a picky bitch.

There's all kinds of songs that are capable of like, capturing people's attention, but the ones where people are, I think, being able to do both things, being able to write from real experience and being able to completely imagine and write that and have that feel believable for an audience, to me that's like the high watermark of songwriting.

Americana music transforms the world and unfortunately, too many are unaware of its profound impact.

Americana musicians are the unsung heroes and here you'll join us in exploring these passionate artists and how they offer inspiration and hope for the future.

This show makes it happen in a fun and entertaining way.

You'll discover new music that you'll love, Hard earned lessons from the road, the story behind favorite songs, a big dose of inspiration for you and your friends, and a good laugh along the way.

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It's time to get Americana curious.

Hey there everybody.

Welcome back to Americana Curious.

We have a doozy coming your way.

We're getting ready to dive into the mind of the genre bending artists whose.

Talent and wit knows no bounds.

Yes, it is Aaron Lee Tajin who is the singer, songwriter, guitarist, producer, band leader, activist and Grammy nominee.

And he's made his mark blending rock, folk and Americana in a way that is all truly unique and his own.

His journey began early and he quickly earned a reputation as a powerhouse guitarist, playing with iconic bands like Semi Precious Weapons, the New York Dolls, and of course, Driving and Crying.

But he didn't stop there, y'all.

He went solo gaving, giving him the space to explore his own unique voice.

Missing Mixing classic rock and folk with indie and GL lamb influences.

His songs equal parts humor and introspection, tackling love, identity, mental health and society with sharp storytelling and unforgettable lyrics.

With collaborations that span from Kevin Kinney to Sheryl Crow and Sean Lennon, he has shown that his artistry truly transcends genre lines, making him one of the most versatile musicians out there.

Today, he's released five solo albums, with his latest stellar evolution continuing to earn him accolades and critical praise.

Aaron, welcome to Americana Cur.

Thank you.

Aaron, your lyrics, as I mentioned in the intro, your lyrics have such a unique blend of humor and introspection.

Is there a particular song that started like a funny idea or a real life experience that ended up taking on a life all of its own?

I remember talking to Justin Townserl.

We used to both live in New York, and we frequented this bar called 11th Street Bar.

And there was a little porch on the front of the bar that had, like, a tiny wooden bench on it where people would kind of sit and smoke cigarettes.

And that was where I met him.

I was playing in there from time to time, and he had.

He'd come by the bar one night, and I walked out on the porch after my first set.

I had to play a couple of sets.

And I walked out after my first set, and he was sitting out there by himself smoking a cigarette.

And I didn't want to bother him, so I didn't really say anything to him, but he said to me, he said.

He said, hey, those are some good songs, man.

And I said.

I said, oh, thanks, man.

I'm a big fan of yours.

And he didn't even acknowledge that part of what I said.

He just said, and I'm a picky bitch.

There's some good songs, and I'm a picky bitch.

And I remember talking to him about, I really revered him as a songwriter.

I thought he was an incredible songwriter.

And I felt really lucky to sort of get to meet him that night.

Talking about songs sometimes and talking about that idea of, like, being able to just make something up that still feels totally real and believable.

I think that there's all kinds of songs that are capable of, like, capturing people's attention, but the ones where people are just kind of winging it, I mean, that's my favorite thing from the Springsteen, the Off Broadway.

Do you ever see the Springsteen, Off Broadway thing?

Like, he's getting ready to play Thunder Road, I think, or something like that.

He's on the piano and he's kind of talking a little bit, and he just goes, by the way, you guys, I just made all this.

Yes.

I never worked in a.

Like.

And to me, I'm just sort of like, yeah, that's how good that guy is.

You know what I mean?

It's so Funny that you bring that up because our previous or our last guest, Steve Poltz, had a moment at the Springsteen on Broadway that absolutely changed his life.

And so last week I went back and rewatched it and you're right, it is so like, Bruce is so amazing and he just makes everything up.

Yeah, I love it.

I do.

I want to tag on that kind of.

I heard recently heard a funny story about your new single that you.

Well, it's been a song you wrote a while ago.

Yeah, you've got it out now with Dave Schools of Widespread, which is awesome.

I love America better than you.

There is a funny story behind your premise for writing that I'd like.

Yeah, sure you wouldn't mind?

Yeah, yeah.

I.

I think I just moved to Nashville.

I was just writing songs.

I made a deal that I was going to write.

I made a deal with myself.

I was going to write at least one song every single day that year.

So I was writing a lot of songs, you know.

Yeah.

Because I was just trying to.

I was just trying to get better.

And also part of getting better to me at that point in my life was like just learning to care a little bit less.

I had to crush my ego a bit, you know, and so writing that many songs was a great way to do that.

Because if you write 360 songs, like, there's no way that you're gonna write 365 goods.

There's just like zero chance of that, so.

Or bad ones, for that matter.

Or bad ones.

Yeah, there's a good.

You may.

You may write 365 terrible ones.

But that's whatever.

Whatever it is is what I've kind of learned.

So I was writing a bunch of songs and I.

It was like the coming up on the 4th of July and for some reason I decided I was gonna write like, I'd never really written like any sort of like patriotic song.

Not that my song is really patriotic.

It doesn't really take a side as far as like, that is our modern version of patriotism is concerned.

But I called my friend John Latham and I was like, man, I'm gonna go on Facebook and tell everybody that Lee Greenwood is Canadian.

And I was like, would you be interested in kind of helping spread that idea around or whatever.

And so me and John kind of tag teamed it and on my Twitter post it really blew up and people were really getting upset.

Like, this is the.

This is the dumb part too about this is like people were kind of mad that like you would suggest that the guy who sang God Bless America, or God Bless the USA rather was.

Was like, not, quote, unquote American, even though Canadians are North American.

Like, it's.

It's just kind of another one of those things where you're sort of like, man, y'all are really kind of.

But yeah, people really reacted strongly in a very negative way for the most part.

And I just thought, what a dumb thing to get mad about.

Here's.

Here's the other thing about that song.

I had a.

I had an experience.

This has been living in Nashville, has been my first time living in the South.

I always lived sort of above the Mason Dixon line before I lived in Nashville.

And I was here.

Me and Jason Ross, the singer for 7 Mary 3, were.

We had a night off and we were out to dinner in Nashville just watching the election unfold.

And the things that we were hearing people say at the tables around us about Barack Obama and black folks, generally speaking, sometimes was atrociously appalling.

I mean, it was like.

Just thinking of it now, like, makes me feel a little sick to my stomach, you know?

Sure.

And I sort of realized how differently folks view things sometimes.

And I was very lucky.

I think I grew up in a lot of situations where things were pretty diverse and the places that I was living and the friends that I had and the folks that I knew were loving, kind hearted, open, who definitely wanted to be living in a beautiful world.

However, there is another side to that, and that was my first.

That election was my first experience seeing that I wrote this from many different experiences that I had had.

I mean, the Lee Greenwood thing was a catalyst to kind of start making it up.

But I'd been thinking about it for a really long time.

You can't really write a song like just wake up one day and be like, oh, I'm gonna write a political song today about the duality of the two party system in America and how they sort of treat each other and just kind of do it.

Like, it's like Tom Waits calls it, setting a trap to catch a song.

You think about the song for way longer than you ever actually write it, you know, And I thought about that for years before I.

Before I wrote.

And then I wrote it and then I.

And realized after all of that Stuff that had just happened that the song wasn't done yet and wrote some more verses and fleshed out the choruses more.

And so really, even just writing it took years as well.

Yeah.

Well, what a fun song it is.

It's catchy.

And then you listen to like the sixth time and you're like, oh, my gosh, there's a lot.

Yeah, that's the thing that's kind of cool about.

About it.

To me, it's.

It is.

It is fun in a way.

I mean.

So I've been doing this thing where I teach a songwriting workshop to high school students.

Like 30 of them, me and a couple other songwriters.

And we break up into groups of three and we each write a song together with the students.

And then we come back and everybody plays the songs that they've written for the group.

It's really fun and it's cool.

And the kids are super, man.

They're so smart and like, I just.

I don't worry for the.

When I.

When I get to hang with these kids because they're so cool.

If you were teaching my high school class.

Are you a teacher?

No, my parents are, though.

Oh, cool.

Oh, cool.

But I love, I love the fact that you're in there teaching songwriting because it gives them a great chat.

Way to channel their thoughts and inspiration beyond just tick tock.

Definitely.

Definitely.

And it.

Yeah, it's the.

A lot about the.

Yeah.

How hard it is to be vulnerable in those.

To offer up whatever your ideas, whatever you.

And especially in front of a group of your peers.

It's like, man, that's kind of a scary thing.

But it's really cool.

It's like these kids kind of like you watch them, you know, like, it was really magical.

We did one last night and this young woman, Gabby, had never written a song in her life, and she came up with two killer lines, man.

Like, really amazing, you know, And.

Yeah, and she was smiling and we were high fiving and stuff.

It was really cool.

I played.

I played I Love America for the kids last night.

And by the end of it, everybody was clapping along and the chorus and stuff.

Cause it is fun, but it's also like a pretty stark picture to me.

I love that about songs, how they're kind of like life, like they're not this or that really.

They're kind of like all of these things at once.

And.

And that's why I think, like, ChatGPT will never get it, because it could probably write you a song about a dog.

Right?

But it's not.

But it's not.

It's not going to really get the.

You're not going to get the duality of humanity in that song.

The human emotion.

Yeah, yeah, man.

It's people.

People do that because they're human, you know, and that's a unique skill set to us.

Meet.

Cry, cry, cry till you're laughing There's a funny side on the other side of all these lies that we tell Lawsuits Just to have a life Just to have.

So I'd like to choose your own adventure question.

Yeah.

Going back early in your high school career or early when you just discovered, hey, I have a knack for writing music.

Or maybe you go back to your New York Dolls days or your driving and crying days of an experience that you had, or a moment that really was big for you on that front.

A big moment.

I don't.

I haven't really had any big moments.

I've had a lot of small little things that have.

That continue to add up over time to my career and stuff like that, but I've never really had a breakout moment or a big hit song or a viral TikTok video or any of those kind of things that traditionally make up a successful music career.

A lot of my heroes were kind of like that, where they just kind of went from one thing to the next very quietly, very sort of.

And that's been my experience.

I've learned now as I've gotten older to go back and.

And feel gratitude for things that I've done in the past, that while I was having the experience, I was enjoying it.

But you're also having the experience, so you're kind of caught up in that.

You're not really.

Or at least I'm not always able to step back in those moments and really fully have the gratitude that I should, you know, so I've learned to go back and appreciate those things in a different way.

But what's one that's maybe changed for you then?

One that's changed?

Yeah.

Like you experienced it then and you're kind of maybe just like, hey, yeah, I'm on stage here.

I'm doing this, or I'm writing this song.

And then you look back at it, you're like, man, that was something really special, and you have that gratitude for it now.

Yeah.

Okay.

2017.

We, my band and I, were the first band on the main stage on the first day of the Newport Folk Festival.

Oh, yes.

And we drove.

It was a tough.

The routing.

For whatever reason, we had to draw in a day in one day.

We had to drive from Nashville to Rhode island to get to the gig.

And so we drove, whatever that is, 16 hours or 17 hours or something like that.

Like, got checked into a hotel somewhere between Nashville and Rhode island, four in the morning or something.

Slept for, like, two hours, got up, drove the rest of the way to Newport, drove onto the festival site, put our gear on stage and jumped on and went, 1, 2, 3, 4, go.

And so, yeah, because of that, those travel conditions, like, I was barely conscious when we played that show.

But I had.

My friend.

My friend Pia from Norway was visiting at the time, and she took some pictures of the show, and she sent me one of the photos, like, a long time after the show.

Might have been years after, I can't remember, but it was a long time after the show.

And I.

And she had been sort of up on the scaffolding kind of behind us.

And so the photo she got was the back of the fort stage out to the.

Out to where me and Ben stand.

Yeah, exactly.

And it was so.

There were so many people watching us play.

Like, you couldn't even see a blade of grass, like, anywhere.

Like, the lawn was just full of.

And I thought to myself, like, I've been the first band of the day at many a festival, and I know that usually what that means is that you play for, like, the sound guy, the stage crew, and about 10 people who walked through the gate at.

To be there.

It's just the.

It's just kind of usually how it is.

But realizing it's like, man, we were really.

We were really connecting with people at that time in a way where most of those people probably had never seen us before.

I'm.

Yet so many of them felt compelled to come early and give us a chance to sing for them.

What a special gift.

What an incredibly beautiful moment in the world where people were willing to take a chance on something they didn't know because they trust the Newport Folk Festival.

They've had so many great experiences there.

They trust them to show them something new that they can love and that can become part of their.

Their life and the way that those bands at Newport do.

And we got to be a part of that.

That's just a little.

Just one little few.

One.

However long 40 minutes or however long the set for 40 minutes of time, we got to share this incredible thing with thousands of people.

How cool.

Yeah, that place is Newport.

It's been set on this pod a billion times, but we.

We love that place.

Me, too.

You said you never had a number one hit, but you do have a Grammy nomination.

My also.

Do you have a dream collaboration or that you would.

That you would just be over the hills wanting to perform with or write?

Me and my friend BP Fallon wrote a song together, and he met Jack White, and Jack decided to record it for Third Man.

And then Jack produced it and played guitar on it.

And so he was playing my guitar riff that I'd written, which is pretty intimidating.

One of the greatest living rock and roll guitar players play your riff that you wrote.

It's pretty cool.

And it's called I Believe in Elvis Presley is the name of the song.

And it came out when Jack was doing the Green.

He was doing the Different Colored Record series.

And when he was doing the Green series, he made a one on BP Fallon, and that song appears on that record.

But it was really cool.

I did get to meet him.

He invited BP and I out to the Dead Weather show that they were playing in Brooklyn, and I got to meet him at that time.

It was very brief, but cool.

He was super, super cool guy.

But one thing that happened that was really cool that night, Allison Mosshart, the singer of Dead Weather, who's also the singer of a band called the Kills that I love, she came up to me in the hallway and was like, hey, that was a cool.

I love your riff that you wrote on that Jack song.

That was really cool.

So.

Yes.

Take that to the bank all day.

Yeah.

What's a misconception that people sometimes have about your music?

I read a review of the most recent record that said that I can no longer be considered.

I don't know if I'm going to paraphrase this, but it was something to the effect of after this record, he can no longer be considered like a, you know, a song.

Like a folk Americana songwriter or something like that.

Oh.

And I was like.

I was like, yeah.

I don't know if I buy that, but, yeah.

The hardest thing to do with music sometimes is draw a line in the sand, because it is sort of like we were talking about earlier.

It's a lot like.

It's full of complexities and contradictions and all of those things that make us all human, and that's why we connect to it.

I use to be.

I.

It's funny, I feel like I.

Before I got into therapy, I used to think about myself too much, and I was probably.

I probably had some answers ready to go.

And then, like, I started doing therapy and thinking about myself a lot less.

And.

And maybe it's made me worse at interviews.

I don't Know which is the best.

Interview question response ever.

Yes.

That was the best.

That worked great.

We're going to retitle the interview.

Why Aaron was ruined.

No, his rock and roll lifestyle is not nearly as fun now.

Well, because Stellar Evolution has been praised.

And for you, I mean, like I said at the beginning, you evolution over your albums.

Every album has been just better.

Better.

This one, it's fantastic.

I mean, my daughter's dance crew, they warm up to pants when they're dancing.

I come in and they're warming up or shutting it down.

And I mean, the teacher has a good sense of music.

I tell her, man, tell me about.

About that song, because I just love the meaning within it.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, that song started off a lot differently from a musical standpoint.

It was kind of like, well, here, give me one second.

For the folks at home, Aaron grabbed a guitar that says Stellar Evolution.

Yeah, this is my cut.

This is my custom Stellar Evolution guitar from our good friends at Epiphone.

Oh, yes.

So when the song started, it was kind of more like strummy, kind of.

I don't know if you guys can hear that, you know.

And I was going like, everybody seems so bored.

Yeah, they're so advanced.

I'm laying down on a chaise, long riding songs about pants, you know.

So I kind of had this kind of like strummy, kind of like 70s, almost sort of more of the thing that I've always done kind.

And as the song went and we did a full track that way, we had the whole thing, like, basically totally done.

And then as the song went along, there was just something about it.

Like I wanted it to kind of bop along a little bit more in a different way.

That's the only way I can think of to describe it.

It's just like boppy.

Yeah.

You know, and I wanted it to be boppier.

I don't know.

You hear kids say that too a lot nowadays.

That's a bop or whatever.

I don't know what that really means.

But I knew that I wanted more of whatever that was.

And so I kind of ditched the big acoustic thing and went for this kind of like.

Do you all know that guy, Corey Wong?

Yes.

He's a buddy of mine.

And I find him to be really inspiring.

I love his plant.

And so that electric guitar part that I put on there, that it.

Get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get.

Very Cory Wong inspired.

Very Cory Wong.

I didn't hear that.

You know.

And of course, he's inspired by a lot of greats like Nile Rodgers and stuff like that.

So it's all the lineage back to.

Back to those folks.

But, you know that I just wanted it to kind of bop along the way that a lot of that kind of music does.

And so when I made that change, it just kind of, like, opened up the song in a way.

It was no longer really a folk rock thing.

And I don't know.

I don't really know what you call whatever it is, whatever it ultimately became, but that's what I like about it, is that I don't know what to call it.

That's what I think I like about it as well.

There is no genre defining Aaron's sound.

I'm laying down on a chaise Long.

Riding songs about pants.

Dress me up or dress me down Painted jeans or a ballroom gown I know what it means to be a man the world will try to weigh you out so wear whatever you want to the world will try to weigh you down so Honeywell whatever you want to I.

I.

Mean, our show is called Americana Curious.

So when you're busting genres like that.

So what does the term Americana mean to you then?

Because it means every.

To me, it's like.

It means kind of that you are creating some sort of music that has its roots somewhere in the history of American music.

Yes.

And wherever it goes from there can almost kind of be anything, really, if it's well crafted and well done.

Yeah, you can do anything and have people dig it.

And that's what I like about the audience in Americana that I was.

That it's not a country audience in terms of really being tied specifically to this genre.

And to me, in terms of, like, music and where we've been and where we are, that is a thing that's a little bit maybe of the past as well.

This kind of idea of, like, I'm a punk and I listen to punk music, and my life is punk and my clothes are punk and my dog is punk, and that's it.

That's the one for me or whatever.

Maybe there is still some of that out there, but I don't see people living their lives en masse that way, the way that we kind of did in the 90s or whatever, you know?

And so it's cool to me, I think, because it sort of gets more to the point about who we really are as people, you know?

And again, these beautiful complexities within our personalities that exist.

And Americana does a great job of being a representation of that, I think, as a genre, as a musical genre.

A sequel could be.

I love Americana.

If I could get Jim Lauderdale to sing it, then maybe it would be true.

So starting to wrap this up, you've played on so many stages with so many different people.

Yeah.

What do you wish your audiences would start doing or stop doing?

Oh, what do I wish they would start doing or stop doing?

I wish they would start.

I wish they would start.

I don't know, man.

God, my audiences are so great.

I love how deeply Aaron is taking this in right now.

Yes.

It's funny because it's like the life of playing songs of the life of writing songs, recording them and going out and singing those for people is something that I had to really fight hard for in my life.

And I'm so.

I feel like it's such a delicate thing that exists, and I'm so kind of grateful that it's still around, that I'm still going, that I'm still doing it.

Like, it.

That gratitude, like, really gives me such a.

Such a.

I just feel.

I just, like.

I give a lot of grace to the audience, maybe in a.

In a different way maybe than some entertainers do, because it.

To me, I'm really there serving them to me.

I'm not saying that's how it is for everybody, but for me, that's how it is.

And I feel.

I'll tell you a little story real quick if I can.

I feel really grateful to have that perspective, and here's why.

I was playing a show last summer in Alabama.

Beautiful show.

Sold out show, wonderful people, great venue.

The Standard Deluxe.

Do you guys.

Have you ever heard of the Standard Deluxe in Waverly, Alabama?

I grew up.

I grew up 20 minutes from there.

Alexander.

Kitty.

I've been there on the 280 boogie right there at the center.

That's right.

I played the 280 boogie a time or two, so.

Of course you did.

And so.

Yeah.

And so.

Beautiful show.

Oh, so.

Yeah.

So.

So we're in the midst of the show that's going, and there's this lady in the front, and she's really being.

Even between the songs and stuff, like.

And if you've ever seen me live, sometimes I'll tell stories of little stories about the songs and stuff before I play them.

And she was even kind of, like, being vocal during, like, oh, one of those people.

And I could see.

Well, I could see everybody in the.

I could see everybody around her feeling and kind of looking at her and then kind of, like, looking.

Kind of checking in with me to make sure that, like, I'm sort of okay with what's happening that like no one needs to shush her or whatever.

And we just kind of carried on that way and went through the show and after the show was over, I was doing the merch table and she was maybe the last person, I guess that I talked to at the merch table and we had a very long conversation and it turns out she is a high school choir director and she's also a person who is neurodivergent.

And part of her affliction that she suffers from is this vocalization that happens.

So I felt in that moment really grateful that I was sort of open to whatever was happening at my show and giving grace to the audience for that instead of saying like okay everybody, let's try to respect the situation and let's have everybody be quiet and all that kind of stuff like on the mic or something like that.

I didn't shame her in any way for just being who she was.

And then it turned out that even as a part of her neurodivergence, so, so it's that just that right there is like such a great lesson for me in why it's probably better to that way we all have things going on that we don't know.

We all different issues that we deal with that you can't just kind of tell everybody the first time you meet them or whatever.

And having that, giving that grace to folks to be however they are, however they need to be to enjoy their life and a concert experience and all that kind of stuff.

That's a cool thing.

And so I was really grateful for that moment.

And that's maybe why it's like it's hard to answer a question.

I mean we'd all, I suppose at the end of the day we'd all love to be playing sold out theaters for a pin drop audience.

It's just hanging on every note.

And sometimes that is it is that.

Sometimes it is that way but you know, it's not.

It's not going to be that way every night certainly.

And that's luckily for me that's not really why I'm doing it.

So.

Yeah.

Thank you for sharing that story.

What a incredible, an incredible moment.

And shout out to Standard Deluxe.

Yeah.

Yes.

So last question.

And you can just take where you want.

What Looking back over your career down the road one day, what's the.

What's Aaron's legacy going to be from.

From a music perspective?

Oh God, man.

I used to tell my, my first manager, Kathy Whitley, who is one of the greatest people on the face of the planet.

And I still.

We.

We talk all.

We just had coffee the other day.

I used to tell her, kathy, when I die, just on my tombstone, just have them write, an effort was made.

Well, there you go.

Succeeded and no doubt will continue.

Yes.

To succeed in that.

Aaron, it's been a blast.

Thank you for joining Zach and I, and we want to hang out with you in Nashville.

Yeah, thanks so much.

Yeah, come on down, see us in Nashville.

Where are y'all located?

I'm in Minnesota.

Charleston.

Charleston.

Nice.

Cool, man.

I love both of those places.

Please come see us in Nashville soon.

We'd love to have you all down here.

This has been a real treat, a real pleasure.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, likewise.

Thanks, y'all.

Morning.

Birds sing My meltdowns melted away Thoughts my brain thought I should know Put a good on my throat I took it in stride and replied Cry, cry, cry till you're laughing There's a sunny side on the other side of all these lies that we tell ourselves Just to have a life.

Thanks for joining Zach and I for this episode of Americana Curious.

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I'm Ben Fanning, and it's been great sharing these artists and music with you.

Until next time, stay Americana Curious.