Welcome to episode 15 of the Football United vs Soccer City podcast. It is a pleasure to have you the listener downloading this podcast. The listeners of this podcast are predominantly from Australia and I thank all of the Australian listeners. And there are some consistent downloads from Spain and America and I appreciate the listeners from those countries.

This episode’s interviewee played senior football in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and the 2000s. So he saw quite a lot of football in the local and state leagues. The man I interviewed was Lupcho Dafkovski but he is widely known as Sarge to most people in the Illawarra soccer community. His journey is not just about the players he played with and against but as he described it in the interview it was about the camaraderie amongst the people he met and played with at Wollongong United, Aris, Portside and Coniston.

A delight to interview as he held nothing back and was open in terms of his experiences but additionally letting me interview him at his cafe. So my thanks and respect go out to Sarge, please enjoy the interview. Please note at the latter part of the interview another person engages in the interview and this was one of Sarge’s customers Matt, thanks to Matt for his contribution.